It really is, she's so forgettable honestly, I like to think they knew. She's fun but even with 4 being my first in the series she's pretty barebones. Fun theme though! Always got a darkstalkers/ vampire vibe from it.
@@PrimevalDemon How is she forgettable she's one of the game's coolest and best bosses. Bael/Dagon(the lame generic frost frog), the Savior and Sanctus are worse fights and i personally never found Agnus fun to fight, he's not bad though. Berial is cooler but less fun to fight. She's just behind Credo and arguably Dante really. That frog specifically comes to mind as a nothing boss, no redeemable qualities whatsoever and extremely forgettable.
@@zesork5627 Biggest problem I have with Echidna is that out of all of the bosses, she's the 'slowest' and takes away most player agency. Unlike most everyone else, you can't always be up in her face, comboing and parrying and dodging. You spend like, 50% of the fight shooting her while she flies around. Even the frogs don't have this problem.
@@zesork5627 Exactly my thoughts, I can't believe so many people rate Bael/Dagon and Berial so highly, let alone put them on the same tier as Echidna or even Nevan and Beowulf (!!!). The frogs are embarassing as far as Ice demons go (compare them to Cerberus), with only 2-3 attacks and a move you can't even get out of until you unlock DT. Berial looks cool and seemed to be a cool character, but he is a static boss with a bullshit AoE attack that takes out a chunk of your health for no reason. Both very lazily designed bosses, only slightly better than stuff like Gigapede in DMC3. Echidna is much more fun to fight, has a variety of different attacks, and has a fantastic "environment changes during the fight" that no other DMC4 boss attempts and blew me away when I first saw it (almost as much as that harpsichord did). She was the one who saved DMC4 for me, as I was having trouble enjoying it up until that point. Too bad it didn't last long, but oh well. I don't hate the Savior, it was a cool and creative stage. But fuck the final boss forever. Credo > Dante = Echidna >>>>>> Agnus > Berial = Sanctus 1 = Savior >>>>> Bael = Dagon >>>>> utter trash >>>>> Containment Room = Sanctus Diabolica
When I first saw Echidna in DMC4 and realised she wasn't really a dragon, my first thought was that she was a parasitic creature like her 'children' and infected an actual dragon at some point in the past. That would have been sweet if true.
i feel this soundtrack harmonized best in dmc4 with the actual fight. when you hear this theme and see the boss flying through the woods in a bad shit crazy speed.... great experience
She was actually my favorite boss fight in DMC4. Maybe even my favorite giant boss ever. It was so much fun hanging off and on of her with Nero's arm as she flew fast threw the air.
Its so satisfying to use Devil Bringer while on Devil Trigger and then smash the shit out of summoned swords and exceed for incredibly heavy amounts of damage
Capcom:Okey, we need ideas for the boss of the forest Designer:My son draw a snake with boobies, it's funny because it has got boobies. Capcom: That is...., THE BEST IDEA I HAVE EVER HEARD!
Notice how this sound harmonious yet eerie and evil at the same time, pretty sure that's how Echidna lure her prey in the lore, she make her victim feel relaxed while on her seemingly beautiful forest, not knowing it was a trap of deception until its too late
hands down echidna is my fave boss, when i play as dante, all it takes is a mastered trickster style, ebony, ivory, and a shitload of taunts every time she pauses to find dante, undamaged, and taunting. Dante, because real men use the taunt function.
Echidna: "AAAAAAAH... My forest... my children...!" Dante: *shoots Ebony* Echidna: *is blown to pieces* Dante: "I think that look suits you better." My gawd, I so goddam LOLd when a single shot from Ebony killed her. I was like "WHY THE F*** DIDN'T YOU DO THAT EARLIER?!"
Echidna: Who the hell are you!?! Dante: Glad I got your attention. I was beginning to feel a little ignored. Echidna: You may jest... but the kindest fate I offer is to unify... and spend eternity with a child of MINE!!! ... Dante: As appealing as that sounds, I think I'll pass. Though a fight every now and again does make life more interesting... Don't you think?
It felt like I was beating the shit out of a uterus in this fight, you'll know what I mean if you've fought her. Amazing track though, especially to be up a uterus with
You'd be surprised at how hardcore some older myths can be. For example Cherubim originally had four faces (man, lion, ox and eagle), were covered in eyes, and had calves feet (Ezekiel 1 : 5-12 and 10: 1-22).
Just beaten this boss as Nero, so far it's been the easiest one. But I'm sure of one thing: up to now, it's the one with the most kickass design and music
That is just one of the awsome facts about these games,personaly I think its fucking awsome that you get to kill some of the mythological creatures.Dmc is full of epic things all the way :D
also when credo was stabbed and was falling from the saviour, sanctus also happened to say, "all that is needed, is absolute power" kinda reminded me of vergil =P
he restored it in the middle of mission six, and nero can DT after that, with a DK familiar behind him. after DMC 1, the yamato was destroyed, and in DMC 4, nero restores it while thinking about his love interest, Kyrie (name bears semblance of valkirye) nero wasn't told the secret difference between humans and demons: devils never cry
vergil lives inside nero's arm. "from that day forth my arm changed. a voice echoed... power give me more power" apparently the voice is also a line vergil has in DMC3.
Devil trigger whereever you can. Use trickster style intermixed with swordmaster. When she digs her legs into the ground and reveals her egg sack quickly run up to her in swormaster mode and DT then Aerial Rave her to death for alot of damage to her. then quickly trickster dash out of her way then when she plants herself in the ground dodge the tentacles and then gunslinger and rapid fire with E&I. When she walks toward you just Aerial Rave her face and then blast her with the Shotgun and dodge.
Echidna was such a badass boss, especially when she'd turn into the viper form and flick her tongue at you before zooming off and pummeling you with seeds. Has a sexy theme too, and guards my favorite devil arm ever, Gilgamesh :D Also, would totally hit that as well. Just wish her voice was a little less grating.
2024 year. Now I findo out what Echidna was a typical mad mother with thousand kids who will kill you if you say something rough about her children and not give her a discount on your shit on E-Bay or another trade platform. But still cool boss actually. XD
@RyuKaguya game was not supposed for 1hit kill execpt anime and cinematics and beside if u see how dante uses pandora and switch to argument(the missile factory) and fire a bunch a missile and kill 6dagon in 1hit which u cant even do even u use super dante >.