Both Raiden and Nero are now among the most beloved characters in their respective series (MGS has more characters so Raiden moreso than Nero but the point still stands)
Nero and Raiden suffered the same case of not being accepted as the new protagonist of the story and both were given a second chance to prove their worthiness
I just realized something; no matter the game, DMC will always have badass music. Even if you hate DMC2 or even the new one, it still has great battle music.
@@ImmaSpam__________________Can DMC 1 was good for the time period. DMC2 though, yes not very good. That game had an absolutely horrible dev cycle and wasn't even meant to be a DMC game originally. No joke, when Itsuno took over DMC2 they only attack one attack done for Dante and the game had to be out in less than a year or so. All that being said though, I still have more fun playing DMC2 than DmC.
@@Brandon-du7ox the problem with dmc2 is the enemys physics, byt dmc2 has more combos than dmc, did you know that? Search it up theres a video showing the combos.
@@jacobweatherford4696 He didn't have devil trigger so his power manifested as a demons arm. Great mechanic and well made grapple moves will carry a game far. Especially when they change when he used his "Devil trigger' in DMC4. Going from a suplex on a certain enemy into a double suplex followed by izuna drop is just satisfying to see. DMC5 has stuff like that too.
@@grimoireweiss5203 5 in my opinion gave nero a great arsenal i like that he has gadgets for us to master and thus leaves us more time to focus on his skills with red queen and blue rose and later on the devil bringer also I absolutely love using that whip of his
My favorite is Y+Y_Y+Y+Y+Y the RB+B then RB+left stick back to go in the air then Y+Y_Y then in the air still Y+Y+Y+Y then RB+Left Stick Forward to use the move split to slam them back to the ground then B.
The time has come and so have I I’ll laugh last ‘cause you came to die The damage done the pain subsides And I can see the fear clear when I look in your eye I’ll never kneel and I’ll never rest You can tear the heart from my chest I’ll make you see what I do best I’ll succeed as you breathe your very last breath Now I know how the angel fell I know the tale and I know it too well I’ll make you wish you had a soul to sell When I strike you down and send you straight to hell My army comes from deep within Beneath my soul and beneath my skin As you are ending I’m about to begin My strength is pain and I will never give in I’ll tell you now I’m the one to survive You’ll never break my fate or break my stride I’ll have you choke on your own demise I make the angels scream and the devil cry
I remember folks hating nero in dmc4. It was MGS2 all over again and now looking back at both MGS2 and DMC4 we like both characters but back then so much hate. I liked Raiden and Nero in their games replacing the main hero from older games.
Dunno, I'd say they did it better with Nero. In MGS2 we started with Snake and then had to play with Raiden and it felt like a downgrade, going from the battle-hardened veteran and known metal gear killer to the newbie pretty boy. In DMC4, on the other hand, we start as Nero and then we get to enjoy Dante in all his overpowered and oversassing glory. And while I never disliked Nero to begin with (he was, character wise, like a worse DMC3 Dante in DMC4, but still good enough to enjoy him), it felt like a reward getting to Dante's part of the game, and seeing how he was just playing around in every cutscene he appears, while Nero was actually trying hard.
Listening to this after hearing devil trigger is so weird but god both are really good, I might like this one a little more tho since it’s my vibes but come on, even if you don’t like pop, devil trigger goes hard and still fits nero. Really these two themes show much of a growth Nero had. Such a great character man.
Nero's an alright character in my book not only on his own merits (He's not Dante, but then, who is?), but because while he is a new protagonist, the game doesn't desecrate the old one through the addition of him. In fact, they use Nero as a pretty good show of how awesome Dante is, making for one of the most memorable boss fights in the game, and some of the more memorable scenes seeing these two play off of each other. Probably my favorite boss fight in DMC4 is the second Dante fight, not only because it's a fun, tricky fight, but also for the fact that, in the end, Nero DOESN'T beat Dante, an outcome that would not only make no sense in the context of the universe, but also slightly demean Dante by having him lose out to a weaker character.
The main reason why is because the writer(s) wanted to make a much more complacated story than what we got, but due to time constrants they had to cut HUGE chunks of the story out to meet time. Funny that it's still much MUCH better than DmC: Devil May Cry.
Your comment kinda seems to be in reply to someone else. My comment wasn't knocking Nero or the game. But yeah: Most of the games shortcomings are explainable by that, and I would've honestly loved to see how the game would've been with the budget it originally was going to have (While it's a steep claim, I imagine that, with more of a budget, some more cohesive areas, and a second extended draft of the script, this game might have achieved the greatness that DMC3 achieved. That said, I appreciate the game for the experience it offered, and would gladly go back to play it again.)
GreenTengu97 Well, yeah, I knew that but I'm just assuming that it was well known that the game wasn't entirely finished. It becomes really apparent in some places.
Oh yeah, totally. The repetition of bosses is handled horribly in this game, Nero's involvement in the story seems very slap-dash considering the game makes it very clear that Dante's alive, well and at his best, and the game tried to experiment with some things that just didn't work, much like the first game did (I am more specifically talking about the board game.). I didn't even confirm what the financial situation of the dev team was before figuring that out for myself from the slight disappointment in Dante's campaign not having it's own stages.
Trivia: The first half of the lyrics is Nero trash-talking his opponent. But when the lyrics goes in to "My army comes from deep within, Beneath my soul and beneath my skin", symbolizes his army from deep within is his Devil Trigger and was the voices singing with the main singer on that part up to the end.
Let's just say that Capcom fans are mad that they don't get to see Dante that much. Additionally, you only play as Dante for half the gameplay. And fight the bosses you already fought as Nero. That or they don't like Nero.
@@devonted1018 For me, I enjoy Dante's moves and character better, so Nero always just feels like a downgrade. He's a fine character, I just never prefer him over Dante. Thus, any time a mission is his, I'm disappointed.
nero: yamato? this aint that bad... vergil: (comes in through a random hellgate) where the is my sword? nero: -.- Dante: hes your problem now kid! (chucks both amulets at random places)
no you wouldnt... xD could you imagine what your sex like would be like, and like in this world everyones critical about looks (sad but true) so good luck even getting a lover :p
The things that sold Nero to me were that DMC4 was my first DMC game, heck first hack and slash game, And riding a bloody corpse with a blade that sounds good like a bloody bike. Yeah in shot i love Nero.
I really think it's just because people wanted Dante and when you finally get him, his campaign is a shorter less interesting version of Nero's. With the amazing improvements to Dante's general gameplay. People wanted more of that and even I playing through the series the first time this year felt that way. Didn't mind Nero, he's fun to play but feels week (Especially with the special editions extra characters) not to mention Dante is maybe the most fun out of the entire series in this game for me. Nero works very well for both the story and to ease newer players into the series first game on xbox afterall. It's just with the lack of a sequel for 11 years and the reboot seemingly killing the series which he didn't feature in. Nero didn't get that second chance for far too long which allowed feeling of resentment to fester, like he was somehow to blame for the series dying. DMC5 gave Nero so much more identity and expression in gameplay and just gave him more to help him stand out from the others as a character.
They did with Nero the same thing they did with Raiden: Replaced a primary character with another and made everyone salty,until the later game,where everyone likes him now.
I feel like I’m the only guy who liked Nero from the start. I mean I did find it a bit annoying that you didn’t get to play as Dante for the first 10 missions of the game, but I still loved using Nero, especially when I got to slam demons into the ground with his devil arm. And motorcycle sword go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I loved Nero and all interactions since the beginning, but I'm new to dmc franchise (played the four games this year) I think Nero have only two problems, first he cannot dodge attacks, second, after beat the game, it's impossible to play all missions with Dante or Nero
This case has been made before, but I'm in the "Nero is Vergil's Son" camp. Nero gained the power of the Devil Bringer and resurrected Yamato out of the desire to protect Kyrie. And Vergil never answered Dante when Dante asked, "What are you gonna do with all that power?" My guess is that something happened to Vergil's wife/lover and son (Nero), resulting in Nero being orphaned/lost and Vergil embarking on a quest to gain enough power to protect all his loved ones.
2024 and IMO this is still the edgelordiest and most testosterone-charged video game song ever. Deadbeat dad “Bury the Light” theme comes at a close second. (Edgelordiest anime song is Unravel by Ling Tosite Sigure, btw)
Y'know, Nero wasn't THAT bad. I'd be glad to go back to him if that's the only way to make a new Devil May Cry instead of that DmC stuff. Seriously, did Capcom miss what happened when Nintendo gave a major franchise for them to a team of niche developers with the word "Ninja" in their title? Who knows, maybe Nero would turn into a bit of a badass like Raiden did in Metal Gear Rising. Though speaking of Raiden, i did notice an interesting trade-off. Jack and Rose were obvious Titanic references because Kojima is about as subtle as a sledgehammer going down on a container of nitroglycerine, but they kept the references to that at a minimum with Nero and Kyrie. In the trade-off however, we got the really fucking annoying saying their name a thousand times from Titanic. Oh and incidentally "ROSE! ROSE! ROSE! ROSE! ROSE! ROSE! ROSE! ROSE!"
Rumor has it that Nero is vergil ' son. Evidence is that when he fights Berial and he explains that he never fought anyone like him, second comes from Yamato and the fact that nero devil trigger looks like Vergil, the third is that Dante gives it to Nero and says " the sword should should run in the family". For then who is his mother.....that's the question for the 10 million karat Jackpot.
+Alex Civiletti in the cutscenes from Vergil in the DMC4 Special Edition you can see him walking for Fortuna (Some years ago before the events) and then a girl with a hood stays looking to Vergil... :o
+Alex Civiletti Your information's kinda wrong. Berial was referring to Sparda. Secondly, Dante didn't know Nero was related to him, which is why he originally wanted the sword back. Because it was technically Dante's in order of inheritance. It's not implied they were related until Sanctus mentions "you indeed have inherited the powers of Sparda" . Dante gives the sword to Nero because he entrusted it to him. It's not stated if Dante ever knew he was related to vergil though. Still the major proof he's Vergil's son comes from Special Edition's new cutscenes.
Nero is great, I liked him very much. His personality makes him a likeable character I think. He feels more sensitive than Dante probably due to his age, but I think that is a nice addition to set of characters in the story.Dante on the other hand, is just AMAZING in every sense XD,and is more mature obviously,smart and funny.I just ADORE Dante as a character. I had never had so much fun playing a main character like I had playing DMC. I literally burst out laughing every time he opens his mouth
Excluding DMC5, this game could have easily become the best DMC game, if not for the forced-rush, making them ruin most of the game. (Wish Special Edition actually TRIED to give more content outside of simply 3 more playable characters... i wouldn't have minded only 5 missions for each Vergil Trish and Lady if they were just different and filled the gaps of the story)
dmc is my all time favorite anime and game franchise, Nero is badass as hell, I mean a human with a demon arm, you can't write this stuff man, btw vigil and Dante are my favorite characters