Dewalt Power Detect vs. Flexvolt Advantage 

Life sure would be simpler if 21700 became the industry standard, but then they’d build something bigger.

@@FyrFytr998 that's for sure....

Even if it was a 2ah it would not be wrong... Just a different use case... None the less it would be interesting to see those two with a 9ah (3x 21700 cells in parallel, tons of available amperage for those monsters P.S. the 9ah has cells capable of higher discharge rates than the 12ah.

>:( You’re going to get a properly working dcf899 with a 8ah 21700 battery whether you like it or not. Nah, but have a category called best, best case scenario, where it doesn’t rank into the rankings, where whenever you get that brands top tier battery. You can make a quickie video. You can leave the bbcs torque rating in the chart but it doesn’t factor into the overall score. It’s just bonus info and an easy way to keep content coming. It’s the equivalent of running an air tool with water in the lines.

Until they tell you that you’re using the wrong air...always something.

Agreed. I picked the 999 thinking that “power detect” on the 998 was just referencing the variable X AH batts of the 20v line. I had no idea you could use a flex batt on it until I saw this review. And, based on this review, I might be tempted to return the 999 and get the 998. Generally, it seems like the better tool.

There’s several FA & PD tools. I have PD: grinders, Hammer drill, and recip. I kind of like shopping tools at Lowes a little more than HD which is why I’m a PD guy.

This really frustrates me and I’m seriously thinking of dropping Dewalt after using them for all of my power tools for over a decade now. They were already pushing the limit with misleading marketing of their multiple tool kits where they include a bunch of brushed, lower level tools with a single XR tool yet list as an “XR” kit. Thankfully, I never fell victim to that trick and there is at least an element of buyer responsibility on those bit this is just downright dishonest. I needed a new drill after my trusty 790 finally gave up on me after years of an admittedly abusive relationship and I liked the idea of the new combi hammer drills so I figured I’d upgrade to one but quickly became overwhelmed with Dewalts confusing lines of tools that seemingly (actually literally as this video proves) do the same exact thing but have different price tags. This is a straight up lie that Dewalt is feeding us and I just can’t do business with a company that isn’t trustworthy.

That’s what I came here to say.

Glad I could help

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this is an old video as well. ive gotten better over the years :)

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Yup, those can output even more amps! 3x 21700 in parallel!!!! 💪💪💪

Yes, he should also try the 3ah with 21700 cells to

@@jessedomagalski3710 you talking about the dewalt compact style 3ah 20v xr battery

@@jessedomagalski3710 the 6 ah 20 volt he used also have 21700 cells

@@jamesfair9751 Depends on peoduction year

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I thought they were the same tools in different shells and think PD and FA are probably almost if not the same guts wise

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Indeed dude! I’d be glad to send Dave my 8.0 Ah battery, which does make a little difference. I think Dave was trying to keep things ‘fair,’ by using a 6.0 Ah equivalence between both batteries. I have the Power Detect, and as far as I’m concerned, it’s the better tool. And 1 pound 2 ounces lighter than the FlexVolt! Why would someone want to carry around extra weight, when it actually underperforms the Power Detect?! To each their own! Peace!

@@georgedavall9449 true he probably was trying to keep it even Steven. Dave himself says his channel isn't about being fair. I have the power detect as well it's a freaking beast.... Cheers bro

You're more right than you realize. Power detect is designed to perform better with 8.0ah batteries. Comparing a flexible advantage tool with a flexvolt battery to power detect tool without an 8.0ah battery isn't a fair comparison.

its also a great tool with out the 8ah

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@@ManCaverTools you are welcome

Your right another reviewer did test with a 4amp 6amp and the 8amp gave it the most power that is why it comes with the 8amp battery

They compare it with the 6ah battery

Why try to give FA such a big advantage? Maybe 9ah FV vs the 8 or 10ah XR is a better comparison.

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I'm a welder and use the flexvolt grinders and Sawzall, I generally only use the 4.0 batteries for my non flexvolt tools, but when I need to punch a hole in concrete or stainless plate the flexvolt batteries are nearby

Go with Power Detect. If you want a cordless saw don't waste money on the FA and just get the 60V wormdrive. You can get a kit with two batteries at Home Depot.

@@not-OJ-Simpson oh yeah the 60 flexi volt circular saw proved to be a beast on my brother-in-laws DeWalt platform against my Milwaukee circular saw , the only thing I found that was good on the flex advantage was that drill 999 during a rigorous trial on 9ah dcb 547. My damn in law has a good Dewalt platform, even that 418 grinder of his is also a beast , which is why I invested in some flex volt tools hey thanks for sharing man

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I also have the 996. Would like to see that one matched up too.

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I can answer that. No. I mean it does increase performance. But the 998 is a beast.

it does by a long shot

​@@ManCaverTools hi man caver, how do you tell if a battery is 21000 cells vs not? And do the power detect tools have a minimum battery before they actually take advantage of it?

@@biggesttbosspower detector is utilized with a 8ah xr max battery

it can go in 60v tools, that pretty much it

Yes, 3x 21700 in parallel on the 9ah FV compared to the 2 in parallel of the 6ah PD

Btw, the 8ah pd and 12ah fv have a different 21700 cell. One with more capacity per cell (4000mah vs 3000mah) but lower discharge rates...

@@loxeyloba5897 so which battery is better? Because the 8ah is a 2p configuration I think. While the 12ah is 3p configuration

@@lepore5326 So, here it goes 6ah: 5s2p cells: INR21700-30T(3ah) 8ah: 5s2p cells: INR21700-40T(4ah) 9ah: 5s3p cells: INR21700-30T(3ah) 12ah: 5s3p cells: INR21700-40T(4ah) The Samsung INR21700-30T is capable of 35A discharge peak and 30A continuous. On the other hand the INR21700-40T is also capable of 35A peak but only 20A continuous. Usually a battery of the same size and higher capacity isn't able to output the same amperage of a lower capacity and higher discharge cell. On the other hand they are longer lived has AvE has explained on one of his videos...

@@lepore5326 So supposedly the 9ah is the better one when it comes to high output... 3 cells in parallel with the best discharge rates

I bought the mower. It sucks. But I was able to return it to HD and keep the batteries he he hee. Winnning.

yes it does

I think that's the new tech. That it detects it's power supply and the board makes the adjustments to get the most power out of the motor. So regardless of the battery type and ah your always pushing max power sounds like they came out with the the flexvolt to cater to the people that are running their 60 v platform but want a better priced drill (and Home Depot. Lol)

Yup! It is!

I’d love for the next test to be the 20 volt 8 ah 21700 and the 9 ah flexvolt with 21700

more tests are coming with a bigger battery from flex soon

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I am not sure. we will have to find out. But the point is if you need a specific big battery that is costly to be equal to a tool that doesnt need that big battery defeats of the purpose.

@@ManCaverTools Yeah those batteries like the 9ah or 12ah are insanely expensive but might make a fun video for us I would love to see the test results if that was ever possible to do? Thx

Who cares. Why not try the 2ah batteries while at it? How about when the batteries are at 1 bar too? We want to see comparo of each drill at optimum performance.

Pay attention Chris! Lol

@@escapee8041 Okay smart ass

I thank the 9ah is 21700 celled for the flex

He proved that the Flexvolt could do it with a 21700 cell 6ah battery. He also showed that it could not do it with the 6mah Flexvolt battery. So yes and no.

@@wlsonzor and you will see I said that in one of my other comments

that is correct

I agree with you on that

you should be able to because 18v really is 20v and visa versa. their is copywrite laws here that force Dewalt to say 20v on their tools

Unless you need 60v

I agree with you on that one

one is exclusive to lowes and the other to home depot.

Its business and stopping competition, some what. Look at the world going torward (or trying real hard) communism If they, let's say, just made the power detect (PD) and sold them, under contract to both lowes and home depot (we are not going to include the smaller stores) then if one sells it for 20 or 30 dollars cheaper the other one has to come up with a better deal (more tools or batteries in a package deal) or beat the price of the other store, plus, the employees at corporate (for the stores) have to work "harder" to get sales done. But, if i am dewalt, that doesn't benefit me. SO, I make 2 different brands under the company name, Dewalt, and negotiate a contract with lows for the PD and negotiate a different contract with home depot for flexvolt (at least for the first few years) and each store can claim that theirs is a better product and more importantly they don't have to compete, much, with their competitor AND they know most of their customers are loyalty customers and will buy the drill at their store without doing much research, especially if they are doing construction (and the like) for a living. That's my take. ASLO, look at the dewalt drills that are "not as powerful" they always have 5 to 50 times has many units sold because the average Joe doesn't care and Dewalt makes way more money off the public at large. Thanks God Bless! P.S. I know it was for certain purposes (the video(s)) but plug in a corded drill and pay $99.00 and get more power. Step up 50 dollars and 9.9 times at of ten just blows away these battery operated drills. MANY by a lower cost cordless hammer drill and a moderately priced corded hammer drill if they are a DIY that is a level below getting paid for the same work. Sorry so much writing!

once I get the 9ah battery I will test that out

@@ManCaverTools thanks man I only did this testing 4 my brother-in-law because he was so upset the 999 had the same power as his old 996 , as for the Flex drill ,hard to say, I'd say flex would be the more in power ,we don't have flex on our country as it would probably upset alot of makita fans here cheers man

@@ManCaverTools by the way I forgot to tell you the battery is 9 a h DCB547-XE type 1 made in Korea.. thought I better give you the info and thanks again for your videos, much appreciated

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this flex battery was new in the flexvolt advantage kit

The power detect is better

@@ManCaverTools thanks.

Which dewalt though?

But what size hole can it drill at 2500 rpm's?

@@alexe3688 You're trying to compare specs versus stats. Specs don't mean anything unless you pull off a win. That's a stat. A '2500 rpm drill' doesn't necessarily go through wood faster than a '2000 rpm drill' if the Flex overheats, for example. I'm just the 'sports reporter'. I'm reporting on ALL the tests with the Flex Turbo against the 998/999. And in Flex's first month, it won 1, lost 2, and tied 1 in which it overheated. 1W, 1T, 2L. 1 of the losses and 1 of the ties, the DeWalt was in 3rd gear. So DeWalt chewed through wood better than Flex even though 'on paper' the Flex has more rpms. That's just the stats. Cheers.

​@@P_steez ManCaver will have to test with the 2 batteries for the sequel. What I can say, is either the 998 or 999 performed better in April than the new Flex Turbo. That's just the stats. Cheers.

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The same could be said for any drill with any high capacity battery put in it.