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DF Retro: Contra 3 - The Alien Wars! Sublime 16-Bit Shooting! 

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DF Retro returns with a detailed look at one history's greatest shooters - Contra 3: The Alien Wars. John goes in-depth on how this classic SNES shooter works, what makes it brilliant and how the astonishing Game Boy port compares. Then it's on to the controversial Game Boy Advance conversion, including its bizarre method of borrowing content from Contra Hard Corps on Genesis/Mega Drive...
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Комментарии : 653   
@DigitalFoundry
@DigitalFoundry 5 лет назад
One minor error at 5:09 - I mistakenly swapped Super Probotector and Contra 3 titles for the dates. :|
@analog_ape
@analog_ape 5 лет назад
So sloppy! ;)
@da5e
@da5e 5 лет назад
That's it, John. You're fired. You're FIRED from being retro.
@bobhumplick4213
@bobhumplick4213 5 лет назад
konami was the bomb back then
@retrosoul8770
@retrosoul8770 5 лет назад
John what music did your use for your intro and outro! The FM styled tunes! What were they?
@AbuIsm4il
@AbuIsm4il 5 лет назад
Unsubbed.
@agoaj
@agoaj 5 лет назад
Holding both shoulder buttons doesn't just do a cool pose, it also allows you to fire both weapons at once!
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 5 лет назад
While jumping no less!
@Abel-Alvarez
@Abel-Alvarez 5 лет назад
With style Mr. Squidward, with style...
@RottenMuLoT
@RottenMuLoT 3 года назад
What!!!
@TheNamelessBeing
@TheNamelessBeing 5 лет назад
factor 5 is just unbelievable
@ajsingh4545
@ajsingh4545 5 лет назад
Turrican games are amazing.
@ajsingh4545
@ajsingh4545 3 года назад
@Kaden Overstreet Sony killed them sadly.
@pegasusdrive12
@pegasusdrive12 5 лет назад
This video broke my heart. Konami what happened to you?
@TheLastLineLive
@TheLastLineLive 5 лет назад
Yeah, it's sad to see. Konami was literally the best developer in 1992. What a waste.
@SketchTurnerZero
@SketchTurnerZero 5 лет назад
Kodjima destroy it with his EGO
@noobtubephails
@noobtubephails 5 лет назад
Game industry, what happend to you?
@gregoryberrycone
@gregoryberrycone 5 лет назад
$$$ P A C H I N K O $$$
@gc3k
@gc3k 5 лет назад
They threw away their gaming legacy and turned into 24 Hour Fitness
@churibman
@churibman 5 лет назад
DF Retro? Instant like.
@oldschool1079
@oldschool1079 5 лет назад
yup, i saw the title, hit like, then i watched the video :)
@clarenceboddicker6679
@clarenceboddicker6679 5 лет назад
I hit the like before I had seen the title, that's how good I knew this video was going to be.
@growkit
@growkit 5 лет назад
I give you that BLAZING CHROME
@aluurchin2
@aluurchin2 5 лет назад
Instant FAP
@GotTh3Frag
@GotTh3Frag 5 лет назад
This game blew my mind as a kid.
@PavleGeorgiev1
@PavleGeorgiev1 5 лет назад
More retro please guys. This is pure enjoyment for guys who never got to expirience the earlier consols. Your the best! Cheers.
@Anita028
@Anita028 5 лет назад
Another amazing DF Retro Episode... I would love to see DF Retro of Turrican, Prince of Persia, Flashback and Another World series... these series have so much to talk about.
@dan_loup
@dan_loup 5 лет назад
The turtle boss use another snes effect that is not very well known, that is the per tile scroll adjust. It's the same one that is used to do the yoshi island fuzzy effect.
@MaxwelThuThu
@MaxwelThuThu 5 лет назад
It looks like the GBA doesn't have this effect, instead they used sprites for the head/neck and the "GBA mode 7" to the shell. I remember the Yoshi Island on GBA also using another trick to make this same effect on Touch Fuzzy Gets Dizzy, like a tile modification. The SNES version is waaay more smooth.
@dan_loup
@dan_loup 5 лет назад
The shell could be a sprite as well. GBA has this neat trick where it can turn every sprite into a "mini mode 7". But it indeed has no tile scroll.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад
Dr_Kachu san That’s really cool, I didn’t know about that.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад
Honestly Contra 3 looks incredible, the mode 7 effects look absolutely incredible. Even today. Especially that plane for example, that’s absolutely incredible.
@thomashaugh8720
@thomashaugh8720 Год назад
I would love to see a fully remastered version of this game photo realistic graphics and pre-rendered cutscenes and bonus stages… it would be great if they could get Stallone and Arnold to voice the characters not to say the original doesn’t hold up it does but it’s one of those things that when I was a kid I thought what if so yada yada
@xieulong
@xieulong 6 месяцев назад
@@thomashaugh8720 I always thought Lance Bean (the red guy) looked more like Billy from Predator.
@matrix255
@matrix255 5 лет назад
Those sweet times when Konami actually made amazing games...
@zimmy4868
@zimmy4868 2 года назад
You mean back when they actually made games..lol
@MykeBatez
@MykeBatez 5 лет назад
Continuing to be pretty much the biggest treat on RU-vid. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these John - it’s so appreciated and evident. In a perfect world, I hope you’d make these forever.
@InnerAnimate
@InnerAnimate 5 лет назад
contra is my childhood man damn it was 25 years ago or something when i first played that game pffff , the other good memory i had it was doom on dos i used to be scared while playing doom and my dad just played 80's song and Celine Dion for me to makes me comfortable lol.
@Gorkab
@Gorkab 5 лет назад
Amazing as always, John! Now, I'm kinda waiting for that Panzer Dragoon Saga & Orta episode you talked about, quite some time ago 😉
@thatryeguy6145
@thatryeguy6145 5 лет назад
THIS!!!! Please.
@Azziee
@Azziee 5 лет назад
Panzer Dragoon Saga is a Goat
@ChiefExecutiveOrbiter
@ChiefExecutiveOrbiter 5 лет назад
What I say said! 👍
@adamgr6988
@adamgr6988 5 лет назад
100% this if you're reading this, John. I love the use of Quads on the Saturn and absolutely loved seeing the emulator disable VDPs to show the nonsense that the devs turned into visual magic. There's also...something about that series, it was the first time as a child playing a game that I could imagine the much larger and real alien world that these people and dragons lived in.
@tonybamanabonitomatopowers6057
I love Contra 3 and Hard Corps so much. Made for a great childhood
@theycallmejpj
@theycallmejpj 4 года назад
@@youtubesuresuckscock ^ stupidest comment i've ever read
@randytyson
@randytyson 5 лет назад
I hope this series has a long life
@dthomasfromnc
@dthomasfromnc 5 лет назад
One of my favorite games on SNES. Still have the original copy from back in the 90's. This is when Nintendo was killing. If only we could get SNES on the Switch.
@thebookkeeper3508
@thebookkeeper3508 5 лет назад
Agreed, only in its Super Probotector makeover.
@dthomasfromnc
@dthomasfromnc 5 лет назад
@@thebookkeeper3508 right 😂
@Kevin-sl3gk
@Kevin-sl3gk 5 лет назад
Nintendo had nothing to do with this game, it was all developed and published by Konami.
@dthomasfromnc
@dthomasfromnc 5 лет назад
@@Kevin-sl3gk yeah I know that. But in the SNES era, they were getting a lot of great games published. That's all I'm saying.
@Abpaco1
@Abpaco1 5 лет назад
@@dthomasfromnc Nintendo is still killing it with the Switch nowadays. I get it tho, SNES is an amazing console, but I'd say so are the others Nintendo consoles, but I understand Nintendo received a lot of party 3rd party support during the SNES era.
@rich_in_paradise
@rich_in_paradise 5 лет назад
That original GB port of Contra is pretty amazing actually. I did a bit of GB programming back in the day and coding for that thing is no fun.
@ddub1253
@ddub1253 5 лет назад
Videos like this make me actually appreciate the work you guys do. Plz keep the retro stuff coming
@millrrs
@millrrs 5 лет назад
John please make a RETRO about GBA hardware please... or Mega Drive.
@Bruh-jw8mg
@Bruh-jw8mg 5 лет назад
I want to see one about the gamecube
@ChiefExecutiveOrbiter
@ChiefExecutiveOrbiter 5 лет назад
Mega drive for sure
@Poever
@Poever 5 лет назад
Methinks he focuses on software and development tricks rather than raw hardware
@pottypotsworth
@pottypotsworth 5 лет назад
Just what my Sunday evening called for. Great as always :)
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 лет назад
That was an excellent video, I really like the DF Retro series.
@MesonW
@MesonW 5 лет назад
Superb video John. You tackled differences and details with aplomb and it was a joy to watch. I so need to watch more of your DF retros! Great work.
@kaprikawn
@kaprikawn 5 лет назад
"...the series was known as Probotector in Europe..." ( 14:11 ). Erm, not quite, my first experience with the series was as 'Gryzor' on the Amstrad CPC 464 (along with the C64 and Speccy versions).
@amitparsotam6805
@amitparsotam6805 5 лет назад
I just made a comment about this! Remember the cover art which was a rip off Arnold Schwarzenegger from Predator haha
@gameguy73
@gameguy73 5 лет назад
I believe it was known as Gryzor in European arcades. The computer ports were probably based on that version and the NES version being re-branded as Probotector.
@JohnnyUndaunted
@JohnnyUndaunted 5 лет назад
It depended on the platform. The two arcade games were Gryzor and Super Contra (the second game kept the original name in Europe), while the console versions were released as Probotector until Contra: Legacy of War. The C64, Speccy and Amstrad versions were based on the arcade title.
@todesziege
@todesziege 5 лет назад
Yeah, the Probotector name was only used for console and handheld releases; computer and arcade versions had other names and no robots. The last time the Probotector name was used to my knowledge was when Operation C was included as part of the Konami GB Classics series on Game Boy Color, though it was Probotector without robots.
@Shikaku11373
@Shikaku11373 5 лет назад
Thank you for these series, it’s great waking up on a Sunday sitting back having a cup of coffee and enjoying all your hard work. Keep it up.
@spitfyre1085
@spitfyre1085 5 лет назад
My favorite content on RU-vid right here.
@emperorlarsxviii6321
@emperorlarsxviii6321 5 лет назад
Wow one of the most informative and well put together game related videos I’ve seen lately. Great job. 👍🏼
@MelonadeM
@MelonadeM 5 лет назад
Lovely video! I still personally think Konami's SNES days were some of the best, with games like Super CV4, Turtles in Time, and this one. Not only were they genuinely great games, but they also showcased the SNES hardware effectively, like the Mode7 scaling in both this game and SCV4. Those soundtracks too, they were CLEAN for the SNES, the console that usually gets downvoted for its "muddy sound", all a factor of the limited soundchips. They stand right up there among the likes of Mega Man X, Plok!, and Super Mario RPG. I'd even go as far as to say that the SNES is one of my favourite consoles ever, just so many great games developed for that system. Please keep up the good work, John. I'm eagerly awaiting to see the next episode of DF Retro!
@NYCJoeBlack
@NYCJoeBlack 5 лет назад
Big Blue Frontend - You hit it in the head! I grew up with the NES, but the Super Nintendo and GameCube Nintendo are two of my all time favorite Nintendo home consoles with the Nintendo Switch quickly moving up on the charts. I miss those days of genuine game design and having several AAA titles constantly being release. KONAMI/CAPCOM ruled that era and were consistent.
@Melkiah34
@Melkiah34 5 лет назад
Took a huge trip down memory lane, thanks for that!!!! Best thing on YT EVER, DF Retro!!!!!
@carpetfluff35
@carpetfluff35 5 лет назад
I paid around £90 for the Japanese import of Contra 3 in central London when it first launched in Japan and then spent the next month or so playing it pretty much every day. This was when the Konami name meant something and you could pretty much buy any of their SNES games and expect something great even if you had no idea what the game actually was about. All the titles mentioned in this video were great (actually I could take or leave Gradius) but I'd like to give a shout out to Tiny Toon Adventures which was one of the best looking and most creative cartoon platformers I ever played on SNES.
@samirgomeznovelo746
@samirgomeznovelo746 5 лет назад
Beautiful video, I really enjoy DF Retro, specially the technical info and graphics about how the games were programmed.
@SpacedAug
@SpacedAug 5 лет назад
John - I can see you branching off into DF retro full time, as your own offshoot channel. I sincerely love having your content in my feed every monday! Mondays suck for everyone, so having some retro goodness on a monday is perfect. Thanks for this ! Amazing video.
@Rationalific
@Rationalific 5 лет назад
What's this? Some video about a game that's over a quarter of a century old, with 2D, sprite-based graphics? And it's over half an hour long? Haha... YES, PLEASE!!! (Also, thank you for supplying the song list at the end.)
@menydenisse
@menydenisse 5 лет назад
Once again, great episode! Thank you and keep them coming.
@chrishowson2031
@chrishowson2031 5 лет назад
I always hold L & R on the first stage at the plane mode 7 bit and as that fire jumps over you, did it in the 90's, still do it now, every time...Great video John, thank you!
@vandal_ross
@vandal_ross 5 лет назад
Love DF retro, something to look forward too on a Sunday that's for sure! Thanks John for the quality entertainment.
@rguitar78
@rguitar78 5 лет назад
Great work yet again guys, I really appreciate the Retro series.
@jayc5413
@jayc5413 5 лет назад
One of my absolute favorites on the system, you simply cannot beat this run & gun LEGEND! the graphics, gameplay, enemy design, and weapons just blew me away as a kid, and will hold up forever because of the beautiful sprite work.
@MatticusFinch1820
@MatticusFinch1820 5 лет назад
I love this DF Retro show, its such a trip seeing how the old game we grew up on, were made and how they work. It also makes me laugh how we gamed at 20fps and below on some games back then and never even noticed.
@kurorhino9644
@kurorhino9644 5 лет назад
Yes, another episode of DF Retro!
@gwarner5551
@gwarner5551 5 лет назад
Ashamed to say I'm just now realizing that I've never played the Contra3 on SNES! I need to get it immediately. Looks incredible. Thanks for making this video, it's incredibly well done and very informative.
@alexanderbattaglia6048
@alexanderbattaglia6048 5 лет назад
This is just amazing work John!
@senseihEnRY16
@senseihEnRY16 5 лет назад
always love to see how talented developers sneak around limitation of early video game console to achieve remarkable visual effects. Imagine someone like Yoko Taro or Amy Hennig directing a new Contra game using Fox Engine.
@Squatto
@Squatto 5 лет назад
Once again an excellent video John! Keep up the great work!
@yooamatwa
@yooamatwa 5 лет назад
Love these! Keep them coming, Super Probotector was the first game I bought for myself on the snes, totally blew my mind back then and I still love playing it today. I miss 90's Konami!
@geovani60624
@geovani60624 5 лет назад
The last stage is simply a work of art, the music and the visuals make one experience unmatched by any genesis game
@ajsingh4545
@ajsingh4545 Год назад
You clearly haven't played many genesis games then
@fallofsaigon
@fallofsaigon 5 лет назад
Brilliant as always, John. One of my favorite episodes! Contra 3 is and always will be pitch perfect.
@frombauer
@frombauer 5 лет назад
FFS John, you've done it again. Very slick video and great editing and research. Another top notch piece of work. Keep it up!
@JizzburnGigaqueer
@JizzburnGigaqueer 5 лет назад
Fantastic work as always, John.
@mohammadmj
@mohammadmj 5 лет назад
This is quality content! Keep up the good work :)
@saptis
@saptis 5 лет назад
Another great episode, thanks ! Ive played Contra 3 for the first time on the SNES mini and i loved it, ive finished it 3 times already and im definitely going to play it again. Its a really good game, and it looks great.
@Lorfarius
@Lorfarius 5 лет назад
Brilliant episode, really enjoyed this!
@sasukeuzumaki3608
@sasukeuzumaki3608 5 лет назад
Amazing video! Thinking back, the Contra 3 was a technical masterpiece
@Kyle-jp3po
@Kyle-jp3po 5 лет назад
Man I love DF retro, been watching since the first episode. Keep it up!!
@eldebo99
@eldebo99 5 лет назад
Fascinating, thanks for the work on this!
@analog_ape
@analog_ape 5 лет назад
Whoooot! I hit like before even watching it. Looking forward to this half hour!! One of my all time favorite games!
@Azziee
@Azziee 5 лет назад
John I love your setup, pro monitor in the middle, N64 on the right, genesis on the left and snes on top. DF Retro delivers as always!
@spiderjerusalem100
@spiderjerusalem100 2 года назад
A true classic, i used to play Contra 3 over and over again with my brother when i was younger. More DF retro please!!!!
@jeremybowers3181
@jeremybowers3181 5 лет назад
Another great video John again tugging at the old nostalgic heartstrings bro!
@alejandrodelgiovani4081
@alejandrodelgiovani4081 5 лет назад
Best video series within DF as Whole... Awesome!
@MrShibataro
@MrShibataro 5 лет назад
Great video! The presence of several Treasure games made me wish for a Treasure focused DF Retro sometime in the future.
@GreenLantern20X6
@GreenLantern20X6 5 лет назад
Another great DF Retro! Great job, John!
@RyuRanXII
@RyuRanXII 5 лет назад
I was never a big fan of Contra, but I really enjoyed the video, especially the technical bits! Thanks, John!
@JordiLA
@JordiLA 5 лет назад
Amazing!!! Thank You! one of my favorites games ever!!
@Videogamelover58
@Videogamelover58 5 лет назад
What an amazing video. I love Contra 3 a lot. It was the one that got me into the series. Contra hard corps is my absolute favorite :D
@TheKillScreen
@TheKillScreen 5 лет назад
Got this for my B-day back in the day loved it!
@BADC0FFEE
@BADC0FFEE 5 лет назад
one of the best episodes ever, thanks a lot John!
@javasstyle8602
@javasstyle8602 5 лет назад
DF ... Please do more videos like this ... They're super enjoyable to watch
@AhindiGamer
@AhindiGamer 5 лет назад
Next Contra Hard Cops Please
@ajsingh4545
@ajsingh4545 5 лет назад
Also Turbo Grafx 16 hardware analysis...its a very interesting piece of hardware .
@growkit
@growkit 5 лет назад
i give you that BLAZING CHROME
@ajsingh4545
@ajsingh4545 5 лет назад
Gunstar Heroes is the best
@growkit
@growkit 5 лет назад
alien soldier@@ajsingh4545
@pepomega
@pepomega 5 лет назад
@GaMeStuH yeah, alien soldier is a lot better than gunstar heroes
@RodniDemental
@RodniDemental 5 лет назад
Excellent content as always! Didn't expect to get a semi retrospective on the series. I loved Probotector on the Mega Drive and have enjoyed the Arcade Contra's in more modern times (XBLA releases trying to beat those 1 credit achievements was a worthy challenge XD). I didn't realise I was enjoying entries from the same series. Very interesting!
@Deanster101
@Deanster101 5 лет назад
DF retro talking about Contra? I have never been so psyched about a video
@deedeepilgrim6658
@deedeepilgrim6658 5 лет назад
Awesome work as always
@conradddd
@conradddd 5 лет назад
Congrants! My vote goes for a DFRetro about Red Zone in genesis/megadrive, or the bunch of technical marvels made by its creators Zyrinx. Love U guys!
@WanderingMindSR
@WanderingMindSR 4 года назад
Huhh, I didn't know Factor 5 worked on the Game Boy version. That was neat! In any case, thank you for putting together this video. You really did the game a lot of justice here.
@DoomguyAV
@DoomguyAV 5 лет назад
Awesome work, John!
@MaxwellsUnearthly
@MaxwellsUnearthly 5 лет назад
Fantastic video, wish DF would make more like this!! 😍👍
@retropolis1
@retropolis1 5 лет назад
Great episode. Funny coincidence: I just got my original japanese cart of this game two days ago (I only ever had the german Super Probotector before that). One of my all time favorite games.
@realevostevo
@realevostevo 5 лет назад
Great video John, I love the analysis on how the SNES handles sprite layers, I never knew all these years. Really hard to pick a favorite Contra, most of them do great things in their own way.
@lmello009
@lmello009 5 лет назад
Difference between DF retro and 'regular' DF @ 3:00: DF Retro says 'It's a great conversion within the constraints of the system' while 'regular' DF would say 'UNPLAYABLE MESS'
@stllbreathnbut_y1844
@stllbreathnbut_y1844 5 лет назад
The odd thing is, the closer the system specs are, the more frustrating the subtle differences are. A game boy version of a SNES game is like converting a state of the art game to a toaster. The end result will be so obviously handicapped that any similarities it has to the original actually feel thrilling and miraculous.
@STARSTyranT
@STARSTyranT 5 лет назад
Another great video thank you John. My first experience with Contra was the bizarrely name Gryzor on the Amstrad 464! Never played any of the others for some reason, but this looks a great game.
@JoeyJ0J0
@JoeyJ0J0 5 лет назад
Just got Contra anniversary collection and I have to say Contra 3 is starting to become my favorite after hard corps
@Rokabur
@Rokabur 4 года назад
Considering the hardware and storage limitations of the original Gameboy, that Contra 3 port is pretty incredible.
@iCach0
@iCach0 5 лет назад
Loved it! Contra is my all-time favorite game franchise.
@CI254
@CI254 5 лет назад
Found my copy of this game on the floor of my school bus back in high school over 10+ years ago. Amazing game.
@Mangia1432
@Mangia1432 5 лет назад
DF is the best. I love it great way to start the morning.
@koilkondaraviteja9945
@koilkondaraviteja9945 5 лет назад
Nostalgia at its finest...contra and super mario bros was my childhood
@pegasusdrive12
@pegasusdrive12 5 лет назад
That's a weird combination. Then again Doom and Spyro/Crash was mine so who am I to judge.
@soundofmuzakk
@soundofmuzakk 5 лет назад
This game is epic, best Contra game ever made. Great video!
@desther7975
@desther7975 3 года назад
This was my Contra game as a kid. It's the first one I owned and is just a superb and gorgeous experience.
@TechRyze
@TechRyze 5 лет назад
I've hear a lot of raving over the years about how great Contra is/was. I really needed a show like this to learn more about it, as I never had a NES back in the day, nor did I play it any more than a brief demo in the shops. Gryzor was also released on the Amstrad CPC, and many people have fond memories of that as well. Apparently it's the same game, but with flick screen ala Flashback, instead of scrolling.
@eckomind
@eckomind 5 лет назад
Now I feel like playing Contra 3 on my mini snes!! Great video!
@shreder75
@shreder75 5 лет назад
Ahhhhh, when 60 fps was the rule, not the exception. LOVED this game, and i remember being blown away by the visuals and sound when my friend started it up for the first time.
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk 5 лет назад
Incredible work as always, John! Regarding the GBA Contra III, the issues you pointed out always stuck out to me and as a result I never could stomach pushing past the first Hard Corps stage. It's a shame because visually it still looks pretty nice. Seeing the footage from later in the game it looks like it gets even worse gameplay-wise the farther in you get, the game just simply isn't suited as a straight conversion with the GBA's lower resolution. The whole thing needed to be tweaked pretty heavily.
@Zionfarm
@Zionfarm 5 лет назад
Awesome review brother. I am St. Croix US Virgin Islands. So we got everything the US did. I remember waking up on Saturday and my friend Kendal coming over to play this back in 1993 or so.
@outsideredge
@outsideredge 5 лет назад
This is the kind of quality content I sub for.
@0num4
@0num4 5 лет назад
You should do this with Contra: Hard Corps for the Sega Genesis. My goodness, that was a fantastic game.
@atom_zero5413
@atom_zero5413 5 лет назад
What a pleasant surprise on a rainy Sunday afternoon. Perfect for this DF Retro. Also, Contra does need the love xD
@andyanajonseph9399
@andyanajonseph9399 5 лет назад
I definitely prefer Hard Corps over III, but man I still have such a soft spot for III. That game is STILL one of my all-time favorite games. I remember when I was 11 and being so blown away, it truly is an experience. Come to think of it, that's what the SNES is for me, amazing experiences that make up a huge amazing experience. Last year I got to play EarthBound for the first time, and I'll definitely never forget that experience. That has become my absolute favorite RPG.
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 5 лет назад
Another great video john.
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 5 лет назад
Just played this game again after watching this video and really enjoyed it.
@wayneh6356
@wayneh6356 5 лет назад
Please do Chrono Trigger on DF Retro. Love you guys btw.
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