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Diablo 4 Devs Don't Know How To Play Their Own Game 

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@orangesouls7112
@orangesouls7112 Год назад
Hear me out: They threw two women to the wolves to eat up hate and criticism so they can spin a "you just hate women, anyone who dislikes the game is lying they just hate women" story as a smoke shield.
@jonpro9637
@jonpro9637 Год назад
yep
@Zympt
@Zympt Год назад
Fuckin finally someone else said it lol
@eatonknass247
@eatonknass247 Год назад
That and the other diversity boxes being checked. People will comment on their hair and looks and they'll use that as well to broad brush customers as bigots
@BestOpinionHaver
@BestOpinionHaver Год назад
Actually a real possibility.
@Skyking549
@Skyking549 Год назад
And thats why asmon shut that shit down. And addressed that blizzard is throwing them under the bus.
@KnightCrown
@KnightCrown Год назад
This isn't a gameplay showcase video, it's a dev team diversity video
@Benanarama.
@Benanarama. Год назад
Yep this is wokeness for you. Nothing but political agendas
@Frogswilly
@Frogswilly Год назад
🙏
@rescyn1190
@rescyn1190 Год назад
It's got to be worth at least 5 ESG 'good boy' points though so there's that...
@collapseobserver
@collapseobserver Год назад
@@rescyn1190 ESG: The real 'ultimate evil'.
@Nine6all
@Nine6all Год назад
Yep. Wokeism ruins literally everything, even video games. I dont get it
@SnivyTries
@SnivyTries Год назад
To anyone arguing that these two were not gameplay designers but dungeon designers, think of it this way. A dungeon designer has to build the layout and placement of enemies inside a dungeon. If a dungeon designer doesn't know how to play the game, they don't know the appropriate amount of enemies to place, what level to set them at, how long the map should be. It's like if a CS:GO mapper tried to make a map for TF2 without ever playing TF2. It wouldn't feel good at all to play.
@zeroxwarrior
@zeroxwarrior 11 месяцев назад
You aren’t wrong lol. The dungeons while looking cool can be awkward with placement of enemies shrines etc. so it’s possible like asmond said puzzle pieces not fitting together
@jrr3787
@jrr3787 11 месяцев назад
Those two are not designers; they are diversity hires. This is why the game industry sucks.
@soggywafulz
@soggywafulz 10 месяцев назад
It would feel really good for sniper and engineer, long tight corridors
@georgyushkevich8448
@georgyushkevich8448 9 месяцев назад
Generally you don't know what responsibilities they have. They could be responsible for visuals of the dungeon and not for layout. Dungeons are generated from multiple pieces, whose pieces and the rules of generation could be planned by some level designers. And this girls are just take whose plans and decorate them with a game graphics.
@LuisNunes-ps4sl
@LuisNunes-ps4sl 9 месяцев назад
Basic competence can't get in the way of inclusivity!
@vertisce2845
@vertisce2845 Год назад
One of my first jobs when I was younger was working for Westwood Studios. All I did was play their games all day looking for bugs and giving feedback on whether or not it was fun. Now the end user is the QA tester.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird 11 месяцев назад
Westwood was great. I bet you played their old C&C titles.
@vertisce2845
@vertisce2845 11 месяцев назад
@@KratostheThird One of them. Unfortunately it was for a short time. Most of the games I had to test were games that never made it to market, were completely unknown or childrens games.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird 11 месяцев назад
@@vertisce2845 Westwood went out a long time ago, so you’re likely much older than Asmongold himself is. I just remember Westwood being under EA, and the quality started taking a nosedive.
@vertisce2845
@vertisce2845 11 месяцев назад
@@KratostheThird True. I was actually let go because of the EA buyout. EA didn't believe in using paid testers at all. If I recall it wasn't too long after the test I did of the one C&C title I got to test and I think it was Tiberian Sun. I can't quite remember. Late 90's. 1998 or thereabouts.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird 11 месяцев назад
@@vertisce2845 I enjoyed Tiberian Sun. StarCraft hogged the spotlight however. Thanks for sharing your story.
@ThaTurtledove
@ThaTurtledove Год назад
In the girls glasses you can see the teleprompter screens. at 4:28 she puts her hand up that would be used to press her abilities, while casting her abilities binded to A/X. During the boss encounter you can consistently hear button mashing while both characters are running to avoid things and not attacking the boss. They are not even playing the game, this is embarrassing.
@OneWhoKnowsThings6009
@OneWhoKnowsThings6009 Год назад
holy shit
@Benanarama.
@Benanarama. Год назад
Well spotted! Just makes this video even more sad lol
@kfactor99
@kfactor99 Год назад
oooooooooooof
@JRS902
@JRS902 Год назад
hand thing could easily be an editing mistake. It wouldnt be 'necessary' to sync the gameplay there in that shot.
@Archon331
@Archon331 Год назад
lmfao from faking questions to faking gameplay these dev streams are pure gold
@EyesMilkWhite
@EyesMilkWhite Год назад
I feel so bad for the art department. The art of the game is so good, yet it is stitched together by Incompetence of the highest order.
@Toetech0
@Toetech0 Год назад
I wouldn't be surprised if the art is 95% outsourced. It's more common than you think. Not saying it's a bad thing to outsource work but. It's just the way it is.
@GGXStraightUp
@GGXStraightUp Год назад
The art is pretty mid. The character design has females that look just a little better than Fallout tho way better than sjw mortal kombat. But yea... Western Devs are gonna suck for the next 10 years. Buy Japan Korean and now China games. They dont have the same social issues preventing them from making awsome games with hot chicks and great stories.
@WatCatz
@WatCatz Год назад
A quick google search of their linkedIn shows that they are the people who work on the art and design of diablo 4, it seems like both of them graduated from universities that were teaching art and game art design so they both probably had no input in the raw numbers or how the game felt. Dini McMurry = senior dungeon designer but graduated from an art university and her portfolio is of very similar games which were really good like Tyranny, pillars of eternity, Fallout NV, Outer Worlds, the really good games that have dungeons in time. Josey Meyer = dungeon designer but graduated from an Art and Media university, portfolio shows that she worked on UI/UX and level layout/Set Dressing(probably means doodads placement and how make the dungeon look nice) 2 people who have probably close to 0 direction the patch notes took and were place out for an easy target lol. EDIT: ok after looking at credits of different games, these 2 names are not even in D4's 9000++ named individuals in their credits, for level design there's only 3 names listed which is really weird when you compare the smaller scales of games like Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2 having 7 and 9 designers respectively. This feels like the focus on D4 was def not in the level design and more on making a new engine and marketing with a ton of outsourced work which may reflect on its poor design choices as someone in a similar industry, trying to work with more than 30 people is a nightmare, i can't imagine working with more than 1000 people.
@TrevorGallois
@TrevorGallois Год назад
@@GGXStraightUp Asian companies have the same issues as western companies, only a different choice of words. I say it as I workED for a huge chinese game company that I won't say the name, it was run like absolute trash. it worked because they had a ton, ton of money (edit: and treat employe like trash cough cough) I work for a western company now (i'm in the art department) and I always feel bad when I read comments adressing problems of game to dev or artist. those guys are passionate and very, very good at what they do. you don't enter the game industry and blizzard if you are bad, trust me. It's hard to get into a shitty mobile game company on it's own. the problem is always...above because money
@Sport_Billy
@Sport_Billy Год назад
well sometimes their art department cucks the game designers from implementing game changes they don't feel look good in the game, even if its better QOL for the players. at least that's what happened to heroes of the storm and we heard that from their team. so the art department at blizzard is good and has a loot to say about how the game is looking and gameplay as well
@asumax8
@asumax8 Год назад
I do believe the reason these 2 were picked or thrown under the bus was because Blizzard wanted to make a statement, which was "Hey look we are inclusive and girls like playing videogames." They didn't care if they were qualified for this or not. My company does roughly the same. They'll pick hosts/instructors from certain groups to show inclusiveness no matter if they are the best for the presentation or not.
@keithfilibeck2390
@keithfilibeck2390 11 месяцев назад
yea that's great Blizz, where's the good game at.
@EnterHacker
@EnterHacker 11 месяцев назад
Yes. It's not that they ARE women. It's that they HAVE to be women.
@josephdurham4950
@josephdurham4950 9 месяцев назад
​@@EnterHacker well said
@monarchco
@monarchco 9 месяцев назад
That isn't true. These two were picked because they're representative of the company. The game development industry may be 73% men, but blizzard reports their workforce as 75% women. Blizzard HR is more interested in hiring pronouns than hiring talent.
@Radbiker33357
@Radbiker33357 8 месяцев назад
@@monarchcoyou’re kidding right? 75% women? So much for equality, that’s ridiculous. Number should be 50%.
@rabies8
@rabies8 Год назад
Remember when she tapped an ability button and it said “not ready yet” with 21 seconds still on the cool down. Then she proceeded to click the heal button with her very next move, and it said, your already at full health… Yeah, good times. 😅
@gb342002
@gb342002 6 месяцев назад
meh i do that sometimes especially when talking to someone. just spamming shit. but yeah this was a yawn fest
@bugtesties
@bugtesties 6 месяцев назад
Basically little kid button smashing in fighting games 😂 I laughed so hard at the a a a a a a a a a
@tak086
@tak086 Год назад
I wish they showed this video BEFORE the game was released. Would have saved a lot of people some time and money
@lordkiza8838
@lordkiza8838 Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@eamonburns392
@eamonburns392 Год назад
and thats y game pass is good if the game is shite then u havnt waisted ur money.
@lordkiza8838
@lordkiza8838 Год назад
@@eamonburns392 game pass was shit
@Lefthandrightband
@Lefthandrightband Год назад
You aren't lieing they got diversity hires who suck at games heading development
@jankowalski1501
@jankowalski1501 Год назад
if you had brain and actually know anything about gaming, you would know right away after first gameplays/information that this game won't be good. It was released 2 years too early, with a lot of design issues and bad decisions. You didn;t even have to play the game in beta to see this.
@Steezyjo510
@Steezyjo510 Год назад
this is IGN level gameplay from a senior designer, so many of my questions have been answered and now I can walk away from the game in peace
@destinyquestgame
@destinyquestgame Год назад
Oh god that video was terrible. At least two people playing the game at least.
@ParkSF
@ParkSF Год назад
They dont know wtf they are doing and now we have a video proove of it...
@Kingmaster64
@Kingmaster64 Год назад
Imagine being on copium after copium and still trying a blizz game. How many shitgames you guys still need to stop giving them money?
@Gojimaru
@Gojimaru Год назад
When you see how they look there's 90% chance they're incompetent and are there just for diversity.
@wight4991
@wight4991 Год назад
they aren't even playing the game. they are just looking at a recording of gameplay, if we can count spamming A the entire time as "gameplay", and reading from a teleprompter, which you can see in the reflection of her glasses. heck, they're even lifting their hands to gestikulate but their characters magically are still using abillities bound to the buttons they are clearly not even touching at the moment!
@povang
@povang Год назад
This is what happens when a company focuses on diversity, inclusioin, and equity rather than trying to hire the best people possible based on merit.
@theennin
@theennin 8 месяцев назад
Everything that needed to be said, why hire the student devs who had straight A’s innovation and Witt. Instead DIVERSITY we also hire dropouts and F students to make the best game possible! Even better the F students are American and all FAILED English their own language YEAH!
@ScottieDPOYY
@ScottieDPOYY 8 месяцев назад
@@theennin MURICA, LAND OF THE *PROUD* AND FREE
@Fetchdafish
@Fetchdafish 8 месяцев назад
The way these women look is absolutely telling. You absolutely can infer something based on their appearance and it's not anything good.
@davidsha81
@davidsha81 Год назад
Blizzard throwing these two under the bus, giving us a face to blame rather than the higher ups who sign off on decisions that are made to the game.
@revidffum4735
@revidffum4735 Год назад
Nah, as stated by some, these are diversity shield, as any criticism on how they button smash, don't know you can hold, don't know how to use other skills, playing in tier I, etc..., will automatically be called an ist and anti-that...
@robbytherob
@robbytherob Год назад
Cool story. I would like to see you do a live stream playing the game while being interviewed and questioned on your contribution to the overall game
@terjehansen0101
@terjehansen0101 Год назад
Playing a game while talking about your job ? I don't know what kinds of cognitive problems you face everyday but don't drag uncompromised people into this by suggesting this would be a hard task. IF any of your bot answers had some sort of resonance with reality one might think that "oh, perhaps there IS some resemblance of competence within the community ?" But if you, as bots are incompetent as well... You are being arrogant towards the people you want to sell the game to... ?? @@robbytherob
@terjehansen0101
@terjehansen0101 Год назад
And suggesting that speaking about the game you are playing, as a developer is "difficult" ? I can't let this go dude... A person could talk about his engineering job at NASA while being involved in a much more complicated simulator game. But apparently talking about the game you are creating is not only too much to ask but also has something to do with what @davidsha81 said. @@robbytherob - My question to you is: Do you even understand english ???
@jlichman1046
@jlichman1046 Год назад
​@robbytherob bruh what... lmaoo that wouldn't be a problem at all. I could easily get interviewed while destroying a dungeon lol
@Drlovestain
@Drlovestain Год назад
The reason they put these people out in this video is to act as a lightning rod. They intentionally put the people that will attract particularly nasty comments and then they can dismiss all criticism as horrible trolls, this way they don't actually ever have to respond to legit concerns the player base has. Blizzard is so transparent with their shitty tactics it makes me wonder how people keep supporting them.
@xuvial1391
@xuvial1391 Год назад
Lightning rod perfectly sums it up. The 2 people they specifically chose for this, the way they play, the way they talk....extremely obvious outrage bait with zero subtlety.
@123Pizazz
@123Pizazz Год назад
You can always have employees role play as trolls and get the same outcome. Blizzard actually encourages this and some other larger studios do as well to control their image, and hide behind NDAs to make sure employees don't snitch on these underhanded tactics
@sp0x970
@sp0x970 Год назад
So glad I play Grim Dawn!! So much better almost in every way than this crappy fake AAA title! I uninstalled D4. Thankfully I have GD too!
@funkrobot9762
@funkrobot9762 Год назад
God damn you guys are bitter lol
@ronin1648
@ronin1648 Год назад
@@lich109 the games that women play tend to be very, very casual, like mobile games and the like
@froznpyro
@froznpyro Год назад
Dear gawd I am baffled as to why they threw 2 art gremlins in a gameplay segment & expect them to speak coherently on it. We dont know what we're doing unless it involves hovering over our cintiq in a dark corner.
@likenooneeverwas9
@likenooneeverwas9 9 месяцев назад
The point is to show off their intersectionality and love for women.
@ryanmccrobie2468
@ryanmccrobie2468 Год назад
That dungeon designer is the reason why you constantly have to go back and forth within a dungeon.
@NeonValleys
@NeonValleys Год назад
The designers in general are the reason people are upset with the game. The problems with the game lie in the number tweaking and systems, not how the game looks or actually functions for the most part. Outside of the stashtab implementation but i have a feeling they were actually forced to write the code that way for the sake of future cash shop goodies.
@EmptyJarDoto
@EmptyJarDoto Год назад
Also the audacity to say "I think I'm an average gamer".
@TM-pi2rn
@TM-pi2rn Год назад
@@NeonValleys I hear you but there's another layer under that the future cash shop goodies existing are the only reason why the designers are bad. Because of the game wasn't based around trying to rope in weak-minded people into buying addictive cosmetics and what-have-you, then the game would be relying on its gameplay alone as it's only defining feature of whether it's worth playing or not. It might sound crazy but I honestly believe that if this game didn't have the battle pass and the purchasable cosmetics there would be even less people playing it. Which would mean that the game would have had to have been better outside the gate in order to make money instead of the whole thing being some sort of MKUltra capitalist wallet extraction project. They have realized that they don't actually need the game to be really good to make a ton of money off of it. And they can promise to improve it and play mind games with us trying to swing back and forth between giving us what we want and making us want more all the wild he's weak-minded people are just blindly purchasing the stupid things they have in their stupid Cash store of their stupid game that is a stupid game that is stupid
@TM-pi2rn
@TM-pi2rn Год назад
@@youtubeenjoyer1743 what? It designs dungeons. Specifically just dungeons. How is that so hard to understand? A "game designer" is a much more broad term and refers to the people that design the mechanics of the game. A dungeon designer is just a level designer. It really doesn't get much more simple than that I'm not sure what your confusion is based around
@TM-pi2rn
@TM-pi2rn Год назад
@@Akispark if I ran a game there's no way I'd let somebody design levels if they weren't actually involved in testing the levels to come capacity. There may be times when they literally dont get that luxury but at some point they would be able to play it, make notes, and make changes if needed. Long long long before it's even in alpha stage.
@femtokun
@femtokun Год назад
That sums it up. Incompetent people at the highest job levels.
@TheJeevo92
@TheJeevo92 Год назад
It's all about diversity and equity. Meritocracy is being strangled to death.
@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da
@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da Год назад
@@TheJeevo92 so women don't want to make games?
@d357r0y3r123
@d357r0y3r123 Год назад
@@TheJeevo92 spot on
@_Diktator
@_Diktator Год назад
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da If that's what you got from that comment, then try reading and understanding what you've read again, and again, until you get it.
@thepexa4290
@thepexa4290 Год назад
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da it doesn't matter if they want to make the games or not. only the best people for the job should be hired and those 2 women playing the game are clearly not.
@TomLiberman
@TomLiberman Год назад
I've never worked game development but I have done collaborative development work and there is always going to be a disconnect between the people writing the code and the people using the software. The key is communication. The level designer, the storyboard writers, the play-testers, and others, must communicate to one another. This works. This doesn't. Etc.
@yomama2376
@yomama2376 11 месяцев назад
They said they play-tested eachothers dungeons, so while you’re right, they should know the bare minimums, like the abilities lol.
@tylerhenley7848
@tylerhenley7848 10 месяцев назад
Maybe we’ll eventually get back to hiring based on merit and not to protect ESG scores.
@samuelgeaney7556
@samuelgeaney7556 4 месяца назад
It's happening sooner than you think. Publisher's are hemorrhaging money lately. They don't have a political agenda they'll support whatever agenda makes them the most money which was identity politics for the last 10 years. Nowadays more and more people are fighting back against this shit and companies will support the side that gives them the most profits
@colbr06
@colbr06 Год назад
7:45 “we tend to swap designers because collaboration is very important.” Swapping isn’t collaboration, it is a handoff to someone who will not understand why every decision was made. Blizzard does not pick the right representatives for their game.
@wdf70
@wdf70 Год назад
Thank god someone saw it lol. You dont put hours of work into a project just to have someone else come along and continue where you left off. That's contractor style bullshit. 0 communication between departments it sounds like and 0 communication between developers. Using bulletin board notes to create a game just sounds like a nightmare.
@slaapliedje
@slaapliedje Год назад
​@@wdf70haha, reminds me of a place I worked at where the philosophy was to make your code obvious wnough that you shouldn't have comments in it. Lofty goals, but not very likely to always work as well as you think as not all coders are created equal...
@garypinholster1962
@garypinholster1962 Год назад
Goes hand in hand either diversity.
@thomash341
@thomash341 Год назад
I’ve been telling a friend of mine for a month now that it doesn’t feel as if the people we see give updates are the ones that developed the game with how blatantly bad a lot of their decisions are. Feels like I was heading in the right direction with my claim.
@coldchillin8382
@coldchillin8382 Год назад
Level 50 in WT1. Rogue hasn’t used any ability besides “A.”
@PhaRoaH87
@PhaRoaH87 Год назад
"Brah I'm such a God!! Use my level 92 Storm Wolf on WT1 dude"
@chickenpwned
@chickenpwned Год назад
Those employees look Exactly how i imagined them
@robertphillips5181
@robertphillips5181 9 месяцев назад
lmao, "comment on their appearance." well, i may aswell add to the comments " their appearance makes them look like they also come with an activist ideology "
@koilerREC
@koilerREC Год назад
i think the art team of blizzard should confront the gameplay team. like wtf are you doing with your work? i really feel sorry for them.
@lftd187
@lftd187 Год назад
They straight up disrespected the Art Team with this "final product" they threw at us.
@runklestiltskin_2407
@runklestiltskin_2407 Год назад
Aye
@mindstormzhub
@mindstormzhub Год назад
The art team showed up, got to work and nailed it. Looks like the gameplay team was slacking off and letting kids do the math for resistance balancing and the season pass… 666 credits and absolutely NOTHING to buy with them… BUT WAIT! Play the Season TWICE and youll earn enough for SEASON THREE! 🤦🏼‍♂️💀
@Rhodair
@Rhodair Год назад
@@xXdnerstxleXx nice red herring... the art team did a commendable job while those responsible for game design are an embarrassment has zero to do with protecting anyone - it's about giving credit/kudos to the small few who did good work
@prid3971
@prid3971 Год назад
@@mindstormzhub ubisoft does same shit with r6 pass, pay 1200 coins and get 600 back, but noone shittalks them, why dont people shittalk them as well if its such an issue?
@JRS902
@JRS902 Год назад
Why even have them play? Sit them in front of two wacom tablets and have them go through their designs, explore the architecture and explain what inspired them to create it how they did. That would be entertaining and insightful.
@nujevad28
@nujevad28 Год назад
They need scapegoats and they were unlucky that day.
@PoulWrist
@PoulWrist Год назад
Exactly. I would not have volunteered to do this stream. It's a surefire way to end up on a black list with management.
@primecoconut4204
@primecoconut4204 Год назад
@@nujevad28 yup and they drew the short straw, using them as bait for comments about their appearance and for being women which in turn to what the higher ups think will veer off focus on the problems of the game and shift to blaming the community instead.
@astranger448
@astranger448 Год назад
@@PoulWrist they might have contacted Rent-A-Dev for 2 bodies for the day. Here's your script, that's a controller CAMERA!! LIGHT!! ACTION!!
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 Год назад
While sucking up to China, they adopted some Chinese cultural habits. One of them being "half-ass everything as long as it looks legit at first glance". Them pretending to play the game (they are not if you look closely) and pretending to have a real conversation (they are not, they are reading from a teleprompter) makes Blizzard look more competent than they actually are.
@hiropisku1078
@hiropisku1078 Год назад
If I remember correctly, the team behind Elden Ring played through and finished the game with only a knife so that way any build could work
@makytondr8607
@makytondr8607 5 месяцев назад
That’s dope
@levimogford3202
@levimogford3202 5 месяцев назад
my kind of game, i'll try it now ty
@danielkiran8174
@danielkiran8174 Месяц назад
I've never heard that. I do know Miyadzaki beat the game with summons, but I never heard about the team beating it with a knife.
@ladiesgentswegothim
@ladiesgentswegothim 9 месяцев назад
Nature teaches us to be cautious when we see bright colors and the uncanny
@jerstah
@jerstah Год назад
The most fun the devs had was zooming around when they got the conduit shrine. That's irony at its finest.
@Skovidesign
@Skovidesign Год назад
It was fun the 1st time you did it :D
@eclipse369.
@eclipse369. Год назад
a failure of many games i think ppl call it the zoom zoom style of play like diablo 3, like poe
@TheKingOfBears.
@TheKingOfBears. Год назад
Its crazy how this happens for every Blizzard game. The art team absolutely crushes it and then the game is terrible because every developer that works at Blizzard is a lobotomite apparently.
@strongocho
@strongocho Год назад
On the bright side, the dev team is diverse and inclusive.
@oscarstaszky1960
@oscarstaszky1960 Год назад
I am already doubting that the "Dev team" are actual game devs at this point lmaooooo....
@kokocaptainqc
@kokocaptainqc Год назад
they hire based on diversity and NOT talent
@zeroneutral
@zeroneutral Год назад
Very diverse. Much strength.
@rahpowah01
@rahpowah01 Год назад
Who else are they going to get to work there now? Noone good wants to work there especially with the compensation and having to live near a hellhole.
@dylanhunt5368
@dylanhunt5368 11 месяцев назад
If those people are designers of this game, it's quite evident why the game has so low standards.
@barryallencoffee
@barryallencoffee 7 месяцев назад
It makes me sad so many people get hired with no talent when many are waiting at the door to get in but dont look diverse enough
@artemt1987ify
@artemt1987ify 6 месяцев назад
That’s the reality now. Job market is upside down
@MaximusLigmus
@MaximusLigmus 5 месяцев назад
This is the true reason AAA games suck now. Hiring fresh out of college deviantartists larping as real game devs.
@ChabaSae
@ChabaSae 2 месяца назад
@@MaximusLigmus that's not the issue, the issue is that they are hiring people that are just chasing the money and have no passion for their job. Nothing wrong with hiring fresh out of college. What's wrong is hiring fresh out of college where that person had to lie on their resume to get an entry level position or an associate position. "Associate Position" is an associates degree position. Hiring fresh out of college is a good thing if they are given a proper entry level position with training. That's the issue, they don't offer training anymore and nearly all entry level positions that I see are asking for 2-4+ years of experience. What kind of bullshit is that? Another thing that hurts is people taking advantage of diversity hire rather than hiring people that have talent and passion. Hiring someone from college with a degree shows commitment since they spent 4 years getting their degree so it's safer to invest in them. I think jobs need to start checking degrees, verifying it, posting realistic entry positions, have evaluations tests, offer training, and if they are hiring people without degrees and only certifications from bootleg institutions. Then they need to start asking for a portfolio and verify the work done. I have applied to multiple entry level positions and can't land a job, meanwhile I see these shit chasing-money people taking the jobs and shitting the bed on the position. It's infuriating seeing these talentless people with 0 passion getting into tech jobs just because it "pays good". All that's left for me is to lie on my resume just like these shitty people.
@Applegawd
@Applegawd Год назад
I’ve spoken to a lot of older game devs who have been saying for years that most of these younger devs have no clue how to even play their own games or for that matter, what is actually in their own games. She plainly says this by saying she will design it to do one thing but someone else will come in and change it. ‘It’s a collaborative effort.’
@ironwolf56
@ironwolf56 Год назад
Yes a close friend of mine for almost two decades is in a team management role for a gaming company and he says most of the crop coming in even the past five or six years has zero passion for gaming and it's just they heard it's a growth industry that takes any sort of tech degree and so it's just a job to them.
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD Год назад
It has always been done like this. The problem is the people calling the shots, not the people designing parts of the game.
@Jordan-Ramses
@Jordan-Ramses Год назад
Gamers play games. They don't have time to make them. It is what it is.
@VictorHugo-uh9mq
@VictorHugo-uh9mq Год назад
Son: Mooooommm i want to plays my games but antie and her friend are still playing for hours.... Mom: No no no honey go do your homework, let antie play your damn games with her friend. Both are singles and over weight, hav some pitty
@Themuffinman1820
@Themuffinman1820 Год назад
​@ironwolf56 I hate people who say that. I knew a female in the army who said the only reason she got into IT is the the money and had no idea how to do her job
@TheScience69
@TheScience69 Год назад
this has to ba a parody. it's the most stereotypical old lesbian you could possibly imagine wearing a diablo shirt in rainbow colours ffs.
@haywoodjablome7822
@haywoodjablome7822 Год назад
She looks like she has "Come to My Window" as a ringtone. Lets the phone ring out every time so she can hear the lesbo anthem play out.
@TheRealJonster
@TheRealJonster Год назад
It gets super fucking tiresome, doesn't it? The stereotypes are killing me dude
@TheScience69
@TheScience69 Год назад
@TheRealJonster they were probably hired for their talents and skills, I bet. God knows what the rest of the dev team look like. Then later in the video, they actually have the nerve to say its super great when everyone has a different opinion because the games come out better lmao. I bet if you snuck into their office and shouted trump, you'd start a stampede of fat lesbians rushing for the emergency exits
@TheRealJonster
@TheRealJonster Год назад
@@TheScience69 unfortunately, I believe you are right. And whether you are an artist or designer, you absolutely should be able to play the game at a high level and be proficient at it. Everything is connected in a video game. You cannot possibly make smart and innovative game designs if you don't understand how to play off mechanics well etc.
@TheScience69
@TheScience69 Год назад
@TheRealJonster well from certain things they said, im pretty sure the younger one literally just got hired and therefore barely did anything for the game. The older one flunked out of college, answered a sketchy ad in the paper to learn to make games and she's now a senior dungeon designer. I googled her and can't find anything like a list of other games she's worked on so it seems like diablo is first, and it doesn't sound like she's been working on it all the way through development either. That says a lot about their hiring practises.
@maciej9965
@maciej9965 11 месяцев назад
Diversity hires. Imagine being an actual artist, having to work with these two.
@stingfiretube
@stingfiretube 9 месяцев назад
I don't smell like cheetos but that haircut was ghastly.
@Number704
@Number704 Год назад
What makes me mad is I KNOW there's a hardcore fan of Blizzard who went to school to become a Dev who can't get into the company because of these shills.
@kkkk-uh1cu
@kkkk-uh1cu Год назад
Don't kid yourself. Blizzard revealed that their entire review process is broken. The game was rotten from the top down, not up from the bottom. That's why the art and other work intensive aspects are amazing, but the seasons and broader philosophy just doesn't work right now.
@Skovidesign
@Skovidesign Год назад
They did those people a service actually. Hopefully they will end up at Riot or Larian.
@sennewam
@sennewam Год назад
diversity quotas are enforced through the legal system. They are no joke.
@ksk31337
@ksk31337 Год назад
a good dev or art designer or whatever does not need to play the game. single dev also not responsible for outcome of a huge project like that. dont project your anger on them bro :P
@lautarotrefilio4773
@lautarotrefilio4773 Год назад
@@Hammybread you are not required to spend a single dime in league of legends, been playing for 5 years, never spent a cent that is the difference this is a 70$ game
@Reaper92589
@Reaper92589 Год назад
The energy these two bring is about as thrilling as watching paint dry
@cutejustice
@cutejustice Год назад
This should’ve been the only comment here ngl. These two are so dull 😭
@marcussundholm8727
@marcussundholm8727 Год назад
The dev telling us they weren't always making games was so informative and info I was looking to know /s
@xuvial1391
@xuvial1391 Год назад
That was the goal, the video is 100% outrage bait. Just look at the 2 people they specifically chose to put on camera. It's WAY too obvious and they're going to use the blacklash as a way to deflect criticism about people just hating women/diversity/etc or some bullshit.
@greed6is6good
@greed6is6good Год назад
Theyre computer programmers not a 15 yo kid
@vincentvega3093
@vincentvega3093 Год назад
Transforming paint.
@duckymcswizzle537
@duckymcswizzle537 11 месяцев назад
I find it weird that businesses now are all run by ppl with backgrounds mainly in marketing and sales yet these companies have no idea how to manage public engagement and pr events such as this one almost like they have lost touch with the consumers and ppl who hope to enjoy their products.
@makytondr8607
@makytondr8607 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. As much as everything has been taken over by marketing people, they sure don’t know how to market things. 😂
@JamezGrimm
@JamezGrimm Год назад
Idk what’s worse that these people are considered “devs” or that Blizzard took a look at this gameplay and said “yeah, this is good enough to display to the public.” 😂
@thomgizziz
@thomgizziz 8 месяцев назад
As far as I know they aren't... they are level designers...
@stacksmalacks8826
@stacksmalacks8826 4 месяца назад
@@thomgizzizlevel designers are devs lol
@biiyen8458
@biiyen8458 Год назад
**sees danger haircut on one of the designers** Everything makes so much sense now
@opmike343
@opmike343 Год назад
Anyone remember when the game director for Doom Eternal, Hugo Martin, played through their ENTIRE game on nightmare difficult on live stream? Say what you will about those games (I think Doom and Doom Eternal were brilliant, skill based single player shooters), but that was a team that really cared about a FUN and challenging experience. Games like DIablo IV are just starting to feel like doing yet another semester in school.
@Netsuko
@Netsuko Год назад
Hugo Martin really is a gem. You can feel his passion for the game.
@paddy8046
@paddy8046 Год назад
Its become more about psychological tricks to keep you in game making it a habit so you keep coming back increasing their chances of you buying their shit.
@Sig509
@Sig509 Год назад
ypu don't have to be super skilled with a game to be a good dev, but at least have a basic grasp of the game. Basic. It would be also nice to show some enthusiasm... To show, that you enjoy your final product.
@jlee9360
@jlee9360 Год назад
Those games were mediocre by best you are exaggerating.
@BeruCampos
@BeruCampos Год назад
​@@jlee9360Doom is mediocre? I'm curious: what is a top tier game in your opinion?
@Wriggles.Lantern
@Wriggles.Lantern Год назад
An interesting thing I noticed is that the level is locked to 50, why would they not show the game at is maximum potential, probably because you still feel more powerful at level 50 than level 100
@Jim202030
@Jim202030 Год назад
Their looks come into play. They grabbed their 2 wokest people that could never make a game by themselves.
@RoadSparrow
@RoadSparrow Год назад
This is why modern gaming and this company is failing.
@manchae-fan
@manchae-fan Год назад
not modern gaming, just western gaming
@RoadSparrow
@RoadSparrow Год назад
@@manchae-fan fair and true.
@S_R_AH
@S_R_AH Год назад
Modern gaming isnt failing, just the bloated carcass of this company.
@lawrence4301
@lawrence4301 Год назад
i like that """gamers""" will accuse people with like a decade+ experience over them of being diversity hires just on hair colour
@hunzukunz
@hunzukunz Год назад
not modern gaming, not western gaming, just the big '''AAA''' companies, that are a shadow of their former self, profiting from past greatness. and we as cumstomers are apparently too stupid to realize, or too forgetfull to remember for more than 2 weeks.
@IzanReality
@IzanReality Год назад
I can sit here and tell you 100% that if this video was shown before the beta was available to purchase, I never would’ve bought it.
@afrules9097
@afrules9097 Год назад
Its easy. If you see any indiciation of woke garbage in game trailers, dont buy it.
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries Год назад
It's been common knowledge for at least 10 years that pre-ordering games is a bad idea.
@OilFreeFeathers
@OilFreeFeathers Год назад
Blizzard has more than enough footage of people like this at their company. You're a brand loyalist to a company that died a decade ago and constantly faling for marketing campaigns. It's your own fault.
@Gio-mi3hd
@Gio-mi3hd 11 месяцев назад
mY pRoNoUnCe iS...
@d.b.1176
@d.b.1176 4 месяца назад
Zim/ Zey
@_b_ba
@_b_ba 11 месяцев назад
나는 디아블로 1, 2, 3를 구매했었고, 너무나 재미나게 플레이 했었던 사람이야. 4는 아직 사지 않았어. 나이도 많이 먹고 회사나 집에서 해야 할일이 많아진 나이이기 때문이지. 그럼에도 불구하고 디아블로4를 해보고 싶은 마음에 여러 채널을 통해 간을 보고 있었어. 근데... 저 영상을 보고 나는 디아블로 4 구매를 하지 않기로 했다. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 10R 블리자드... ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@taylorcantly3954
@taylorcantly3954 Год назад
It’s almost like having an “out of shape” personal trainer. Knowledge is one thing, but actually having been through the experience is another.
@cv138
@cv138 Год назад
You're being generous thinking they have knowledge.
@Telarius
@Telarius Год назад
Or an old one, as long as they have experience that's proveable it should be fine. These people however, i...suspect, have been poor at video games (Like alot of wow players) For decades, and haven't ever improved, then jumped into designing. THey never get to even a decent level. Which is why in games like wow, only a few GM's ever have been even 2400 (Holinka being one of them) But most of the others never even approaching it, or trying to push in pvp. They lack real understanding or depth. 2400 isn't even a high number, its pretty average.
@archersterling6726
@archersterling6726 Год назад
Well I don't expect everyone in development to play the game. Art, music, voice acting and some can work just fine
@bopcity5785
@bopcity5785 Год назад
Just realised the barb had 100,000 steps at lvl 50 in wt1. Essentially confirming the characters were made for them. Who knows what would have happened if they didnt have strong gear like that
@kiwischlong
@kiwischlong Год назад
How do you know how many steps they have done?
@m.r.alcantara4306
@m.r.alcantara4306 Год назад
@@kiwischlong i guess he's referring to the unique item 100,000 steps or 10,000 steps
@kiwischlong
@kiwischlong Год назад
@@m.r.alcantara4306 oh right, thanks 🤣
@TammoHP
@TammoHP Год назад
Yeah would have been awesome if they would actually show what their chars are and tell us about their journey. But those probably don't even exist
@SolarPatrol
@SolarPatrol Год назад
Ya gta style where it tracks everything.
@c.williamnesbitt5722
@c.williamnesbitt5722 7 месяцев назад
Wow, an architect and a person who didn't bother with game design until after it was easy to break into. Such passion for the craft.
@vicvega5452
@vicvega5452 11 месяцев назад
yes lets start off a 40 minute video mocking blizzard devs by lecturing our audience on when its ok to make fun of people and when it isnt. bravo
@shibapatrol801
@shibapatrol801 Год назад
As someone in the gaming industry (not development) you'd be really surprised how much of the industry is comprised of casual gamers. There is always a group of hardcore gamers at the heart of the game but their opinions are completely drowned out by the cacophony of casuals. I was really surprised when I entered the industry when others would openly tell me, including my Team lead that they don't play the game themselves, or much of anything. They're only in the field because they thought it would be interesting or they just applied and got in. This is what we're dealing with these days.
@Njordin2010
@Njordin2010 Год назад
Can confirm this. Its sad. Some.companies therefore ask lots of questions about their own games and playing habits now. Like GGG and other quality employers. Blizz doesn't do that. They are not an attractive employer either.
@sirdidimus23
@sirdidimus23 Год назад
I absolutely agree with your general point, however I wouldn't even call these people casual gamers. I myself am far from what one would consider a hardcore gamer. But if I had the chance to craft a game, I would at least have an idea what makes games fun for me and what mechanics I would want to implement to make a good game for the player. Like you said, the problem is that most of these people don't play at all
@Windbend3r
@Windbend3r Год назад
I hate when someone picks a career when they aren’t even into it.
@e2rqey
@e2rqey Год назад
I've always felt like a dirty secret of AAA game development is that very few of them actually play videogames anymore. This is almost certainly the case when it comes to the senior level staff, leadership, and decision makers. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number never really played in the first place. I mean, it is understandable that the absolute last thing they probably want to do when they get home from work, is to play videogames, or even engage with anything related to videogames. That being said, this state of affairs still has a huge and unavoidable impact on game development. I think it is one of the main reasons game developers are so out of touch with the desires and perspectives of the people who play their games, and the videogame community as a whole. This disconnect seems to have also magnified the "us vs them" mentality and outright contempt many game developers seem to have for the people who play their games.
@gincairn8763
@gincairn8763 Год назад
Can also confirm this, even as low down as the QA testing, the majority of testers don't care at all
@jub8891
@jub8891 Год назад
it feels like blizzard are using these 2 devs as scapegoats for the whole team's failure with this game. that way they can blame the community for being 'mysognists' or whatever.. its a shrewd strategy but this is apparent they did this fo damage control
@NameIsDoc
@NameIsDoc Год назад
100% this is designed as a shield. Hell this could be the ENTIRE REASON they were hired. Its a tried and true method by hacks to change the conversation from where they fucked up to how these people are fucked up.
@jcr1766
@jcr1766 Год назад
And I mean, its working, just look at this comment section alone and I would guesstimate that around 80% of the comments are either straight up openly mysoginistic or are trying to hide it, while still being it.
@k.s.7919
@k.s.7919 Год назад
@@jcr1766 imagine thinking that, because we're shown and told to believe that these women are top devs on this game, people criticizing the women for being so bad at a game they developed is mysoginistic or whatever delusion you are accusing them of instead of just being a clear cut example of two women who are obviously bad at their job and don't understand the product they supposedly helped to create. Grow up. The more you throw out mysogany as an insult, especially when it doesn't apply, the less people are going to care. It's losing its meaning.
@jcr1766
@jcr1766 Год назад
@@k.s.7919 lol few things that actually might be a point and not solely bcs you try to gaslight ppl into believing this isnt mysoginistic 1. Art designers dont have to be good at the nor do they have to play the game 2. 80% off the comments literally are either mysoginistic or homophobic (dont ask me why the later) 3. No words dont loose their meaning just because you use them often Edit: btw thats not at all why i am accusing them off it and you know it XD
@3ndeavor
@3ndeavor Год назад
​@@jcr1766I need to know, do you believe these devs are incompetent? Or are you here just to talk about your opinion of "gamers"
@samwheller
@samwheller Год назад
They play games like people who don't game that are trying to give off the vibe that they're not taking it to seriously because they think that people who play games are sweaty.
@pierrepellerin249
@pierrepellerin249 8 месяцев назад
This scream 'diversity hiring'...
@epicgamer7697
@epicgamer7697 Год назад
The women chose to look that way because that is how you survive Blizzard as a woman
@harugisasama
@harugisasama Год назад
THE AUDACITY!!!! HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME LAUGH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (God tier comment)
@stevengreene7389
@stevengreene7389 Год назад
Lmao!
@Kaluth
@Kaluth Год назад
😅😅😅😅
@andtpfack8243
@andtpfack8243 Год назад
right on brother
@sketcharmslong6289
@sketcharmslong6289 Год назад
Savage 😂
@dfg12382
@dfg12382 Год назад
Too many cooks. I'd rather have a single creative genius creating his vision than hundreds of average devs designing the most average game experience.
@Sandro_de_Vega
@Sandro_de_Vega Год назад
You can throw a tantrum about men hating women looks but you can ignore a fact that they are literally stereotypical lgbt activists. You hear level of enjoyment in voice of that manwoman. Something like dying cat with throat run over by a truck. They have more fun with talking to each other than with a game itself. And look. They talk about how THEY AS A WOMAN(or... whatever but not a man) came into this(patriarchal) gamer society. Those two are activists. I'm almost sure that they tittles(about what they are in studio) are just stickers with no real power over whatever.
@moofy69
@moofy69 Год назад
"My wife's family" Of course we got gay representation in the diversity showcase
@IOSAppCrazy
@IOSAppCrazy Год назад
I always used to be skeptical about this kind of stuff, but after getting into the industry at one of the largest gaming companies in America I’ve learned that this type of stuff is actually accurate. Most people working in games do not care about videogames, have 0 passion for their product, and very frequently, have never played the game they work on. It has killed my passion for working in this industry. Either you are at a company where your salary/WLB is trash but people care, or you are somewhere where you are treated ok but no one gives a damn about the quality of the product, just satisfying some VP who has never picked up a controller.
@16dots
@16dots Год назад
It's honestly the same in pretty much every industry, I've had the chance in my life time to work in 3-4 complete different industries and 95% of the people that I've work with have 0 passion about what they are doing in that industry, people are generally just trying to get by in their life and having passion for something is a rare thing.
@mahaozhou3533
@mahaozhou3533 Год назад
No because these two art staff did not talk for 1 sec about their work. They are here doing the content scripted by some "VP who has never picked up a controller" hoping people will get mad at these two person who possibly worked so hard but did not even get a chance to actually talk about what they did. This is not art staff playing while talking about behind the screen. This is all a sham.
@tonyng9
@tonyng9 Год назад
There are some industries where this is even more egregious. At least, video games isn't known to be the highest paying (developers would go to big tech if they wanted to maximize money), so there is some selection for passion. There are some fields like investment management / finance where some of the people there hate money or they hate their rich old white clients. Imagine if you are a rich old white guy and you hire a team to manage your estate and several of them are hoping that you and your children die and lose everything... because they think that your money is immoral. Or they'll pile your money into ESG investments will will lose money but fits their personal politics. It's ridiculous. Or the "day in the life of a Twitter employee" video... do those people have passion for anything except for drinking wine and yoga? There are tons of Ivy League grads who are pretty smart and hold all the qualifications on paper, so they can get any job they want coming out of college, but they don't know what they want to do with their life so they are just going to a high paying field. But they have zero passion for that field and it ultimately shows in the quality of their work.
@lockekosta9014
@lockekosta9014 Год назад
This is precisely why I always tell everyone asking me about game development to only get into this industry if you absolutely have to do it to be happy. If it doesn't feel like your absolute calling, do something else. Otherwise it will chew you up and spit your starry-eyed ass out. Unfortunately I've seen that message go in one ear and out the other 99% of the time because, "Working in gaming must be fun!" Working on a game - and I mean professionally, not "oh I made a project with my friends or a couple cool people during a game jam" - and playing games are two VERY different things kids.
@thelegionisnotamused8929
@thelegionisnotamused8929 Год назад
Hey welcome to the club. I used to love the work I did. Shooting guns. Blowing things up. Then reality set in, and I spent twelve hours a day rolling my face off a keyboard. Reality rarely stands up to our perceptions of a thing, and reality is so very often 'disappointing'.
@ChrisK251
@ChrisK251 Год назад
The level of enthusiasm from these two ladies shows in the final product.
@vincentFGC
@vincentFGC Год назад
yeah if you watched poe's exilecon, you can really tell the passion people over there have for their craft and the game itself
@MoonkaCake
@MoonkaCake Год назад
​@@vincentFGCdefinitely, especially when he was backseat gaming 😂 had me laughing but shows passion he has since he understands the game.
@crosssinx8160
@crosssinx8160 Год назад
I saw this womens and realized why blizzard is trash. Im not even playing this games but know i understand why you guys are mad about this.
@MsAAAAAA222
@MsAAAAAA222 Год назад
@@crosssinx8160 bro look at the ppl who worked/ were high up on this project the majority were blue haired woman who have never played a video game in there life
@LawfulBased
@LawfulBased Год назад
Short hair, unnatural color put in it... sleightly overweight. We all know these type of people. Sometimes it is ourself sometimes it is others. Their mentality is: _" No effort in anything. Comfort before all. "_ And it shows in the final product.
@phalassp8851
@phalassp8851 11 месяцев назад
There you can see well that currently "non-gamers" make games "for gamers". And in the end it comes out like in D4
@Rob-qs3xx
@Rob-qs3xx 11 месяцев назад
They were more worried about diversity than the right person for the job.
@nicodabastard
@nicodabastard Год назад
This is proof of them hiring people based on their school credentials instead of passion for games.
@watafumx
@watafumx Год назад
In the real world, of course people are going to be hired based on their experience and credentials. If passion for games was a deciding factor, we would have already played a 100% science based dragon MMORPG.
@yous2244
@yous2244 Год назад
Nah, she is a design director. Just how the heck, they obviously made her that because of diversity shit and rejected other more qualified people.
@Mengeneful
@Mengeneful Год назад
​@@watafumxare you sure they hired because of their experience or gender/identity ?
@jungshin87
@jungshin87 Год назад
more like social credentials
@alilarhdiri9666
@alilarhdiri9666 Год назад
They just hired them for the "diversity"
@StayTrueToThySELF
@StayTrueToThySELF Год назад
I can't take how corrupt this company is getting. Diversity hires + no experience + they are affecting the game because they are on the team. Wish they hired passionate people instead.
@vaaaasa
@vaaaasa Год назад
that is litterally what you are doing, going around and calling everyone anttention seeking kid :D@@mikeuk666
@WatcherMovie008
@WatcherMovie008 Год назад
Blizzard been abusing the fans since WoW. If you told Blizzard that you were a fan of their games when being hired via agency, they knew they had you by the balls because they could take advantage of your loyalty to them.
@nesciusplayground
@nesciusplayground Год назад
And when people rightfully complain they reeeee about harrassment
@vaaaasa
@vaaaasa Год назад
exactly @@nesciusplayground
@vaaaasa
@vaaaasa Год назад
its worse these "people" made the game the guy playing cuphead was a new reviewer at the company (not saying he is good or smth)@@Hammybread
@grenin1010
@grenin1010 Год назад
The idea that you have a 'game designer' who can't play the game, just blows my mind.
@chonkyduck
@chonkyduck Год назад
the haircut is a strong sign of diversity hire which indicates why the game has so many problems
@TheScience69
@TheScience69 Год назад
did the diablo shirt in rainbow colours not give it away?
@StayTrueToThySELF
@StayTrueToThySELF Год назад
Exactly, Even RU-vid is in on it, they keep shadowbanning every comment I make on this matter. I wish they hired experienced, and passionate developers instead of this crap.
@Desolaytore
@Desolaytore Год назад
How bout the whole redneck man look lol
@staomruel
@staomruel Год назад
Or it keeps them out of the 'Cosby Room'
@wedgefeyhong9756
@wedgefeyhong9756 Год назад
I could see if their making P B and Jays but this is complicated stuff.😅
@huntermartin
@huntermartin Год назад
Homie says he doesnt want people to talk about the hair because theres so much wrong with D4... do we need to tell him, guys?
@raven772
@raven772 Год назад
He's a coward, he doesnt want the crowd that screams and yells to go after him.
@erxan4163
@erxan4163 Год назад
​@@craserx6267being banned is one hell of a scare
@jackadam01
@jackadam01 4 месяца назад
Wokeness in computer science and game development is cancer.
@starstreamheartlocke652
@starstreamheartlocke652 Год назад
To be fair, for alive camera presentation, people holding controllers just looks better than people sitting behind keyboards. I can't in good faith count that as a flaw here.
@ChelleyMadison
@ChelleyMadison Год назад
There seems to be a lot of confusion in the community. These are not artists, they didn’t make the assets, they also are not truly ‘devs’ as they didn’t write the code on the tools. She is the Senior Dungeon Designer - designers use assets from artists and tools from developers to design the layouts, systems, etc… basically they design the GAME and thus, the GAMEPLAY. Asmon is 100 percent correct in saying that the people who design the game should have a good grasp on it. This also highlights how out of touch their PR department is. ExileCon was a showcase of talent, skill, and knowledge, and just like this video - BlizzCon will be a ‘celebration’ of how inclusive they are… inclusion is nice, truly, but it shouldn’t come at the cost of quality or be used as a shield. How about a video of some of the people who designed this game playing on PC, or killing Uber Lilith, or doing a level 100 nightmare - if I can do it, they can too. Embarrassing for everyone involved, and I’m glad Asmon had the balls to be honest as usual.
@Coarvus
@Coarvus Год назад
Inclusion is truly nice? I guess, doesn't mean it's good tho. Nice to make everyone feel good, until it doesn't actually feel good for everyone and hyper-focuses on a very small minority just so they can feel good. Take for instance the controllers being focused on when a majority of players use and want mouse and keyboard, or familiar dungeons when people want new things. It's good to have nostalgia, like a character showing up, but who wants to fight something from an old game with the same mechanics in the base game? Would be a great side challenge, but not in the base story.
@NeonValleys
@NeonValleys Год назад
I was thinking that before the video started "unless these two are some sort of designers they aren't the reason people are upset" lmfao the next frame was their job titles 😂😂😂
@Zm4rf
@Zm4rf Год назад
do you know for certain that a majority of players use kbm you vastly underestimate how big a population the casual audience is@@Coarvus
@GGXStraightUp
@GGXStraightUp Год назад
I dont think theres any confusion with any of the community. You hire people who look like this, you get a game that plays like that.
@mariosblago94
@mariosblago94 Год назад
they ARE artists. Their job is not to make the assets, it's to put the assets together in a cohesive way. They get the bricks, tiles, columns, windows, chairs, lights, etc. and create a building with all those pieces. Their job is basically what would be called a "builder" in other games like Sims 4, Animal Crossing, Planet Zoo, etc. which are basically games on their own. They are bad at combat, as showcased by this video, but I can guarantee most D4 players would also be bad at "building" or designing. The skills are simply not transferable.
@mdouet
@mdouet Год назад
What a sick Barb build, her Fury bar never dropped once.
@pol1756
@pol1756 Год назад
And no shout too!
@Darkmagecurt
@Darkmagecurt Год назад
Spamming basic 😂😂
@user-qv4hp9uc8q
@user-qv4hp9uc8q Год назад
its a basic att build 🤣🤣
@user-xg1us8rs9b
@user-xg1us8rs9b 4 месяца назад
A camel is a horse designed by committee
@Experternas
@Experternas Год назад
"three blind men touch an elephant, one touch the trunk, one touch the nose" I wonder if the last guy touch the elephants snout.
@EpiclyFlawed
@EpiclyFlawed Год назад
The idea behind this was to present this in such a way that they are protected from critique. It baits out the questionable part of the community so that Blizzard can then attribute complaints to a community unwillingness to accept inclusiveness. This was a calculated video
@PedsHouse
@PedsHouse Год назад
unfortunately, i couldn't agree more. Weaponised wokeism fashioned as a shield to protect from any criticism under the guise of the usual "sexism, anti-trans, anti-woman agenda"
@jackbower9087
@jackbower9087 Год назад
"Questionable part of the community" heeeeere we go. You play right into their hands
@h445
@h445 Год назад
what do you mean by questionable? so women are automatically protected from any criticism and anyone who deems otherwise is questionable? since when, bud?
@mythicity416
@mythicity416 Год назад
​@@h445 Don't be dense, you know by looking at the subreddits or this comment section that they aren't being criticized for their job.
@Eeyore554
@Eeyore554 Год назад
​@h445 you aint that dumb, the questionable part are people that would attack the fact that its women who are presenting and not the fact the game has problems. You can criticize women but you can't make they reason why they're bad because "hur dur they're women"
@StayTrueToThySELF
@StayTrueToThySELF Год назад
Diversity hires is obvious. Wish they hired experienced developers instead.
@wedgefeyhong9756
@wedgefeyhong9756 Год назад
😅. Facts brother
@seekittycat
@seekittycat Год назад
Experienced devs don't want to work at Blizzard. Imagine working on a game for 5 years then have an order from above that ruins the whole game.
@nikitamarynich1794
@nikitamarynich1794 Год назад
They have 20 years of game development experience combined, unfortunately this makes it even worse.
@conget
@conget Год назад
Shareholders: No, they will cost too much
@ecodes8498
@ecodes8498 Год назад
@@seekittycat Blizard is notorius for the dog shit wages in their industry. Why would good senior developers even bother to join them at this point? You get no money or a say on how to make the game, so why people should bother?
@indynoh
@indynoh Год назад
you guys dont get it, its not about the game, its about the woman devs ONLY, blizzard dont care about what you have to say, their task is not to play the game, its to mention that they are gay ... blizzard is not as stupid as you think, if they could find a black gay dev woman that CAN play, they would have bring her, 100 %
@pauljungjazz5470
@pauljungjazz5470 Год назад
Diablo 4 sucks because the people who made it have no passion for what they do, lack real interest in developing something special, and don’t have talent in developing good video games. There’s no point in discussing anymore. I’m done with blizzard.
@garretthoward8376
@garretthoward8376 Год назад
The lead system designer for Diablo IV isn't at the company anymore, he left in 2020. I think that's where a lot of the issues are. System design is the most important step in Game Design, as it effects every aspect down the line. Unfortunately you can tell that there were other considerations such as monetization that shouldn't be included in early talks about system design. Like if they had made the entire game without the battlepass, they could have offered unique armour as rewards for challenges or dungeons. But they hide things behind a pay wall basically.
@Darkness5423
@Darkness5423 Год назад
Remember older games that gave unique skins or weapons for doing insane sht like "unlock this futuristic outfit for the main character, by beating unholy demon difficulty." now it's beat unholy demon difficulty here's 15 achievement points, buy this cool skin for 15.99$ normally 24.99$. Games are quickly no longer rewarding out of the box thinking and style of play with cosmetics or unique/throw back to other IP weapons/skins. I mean some are still going to do the hardest difficulty cause they like the challenge, but now it's just to say "yea, i beat it on highest difficulty wouldn't do it again though."
@DragoonWarrior790
@DragoonWarrior790 Год назад
I've noticed things like that with a lot of the newer games. The turnover rate in the gaming industry seems to be about as bad as fast food. Given how much time had passed, it shouldn't be a surprise that the people who made Borderlands 1 and 2 did not make Borderlands 3, and it really shows when playing the game.
@bestieswithtesties
@bestieswithtesties Год назад
Yeah didn't Asmongold make a video/talk about it way back when? Everyone should have seen the writing on the walls when senior game designers were leaving and being replaced mid project. Everyone always gives studios the benefit of the doubt though and just keeps buying steaming piles of shit from out of touch/greedy studios and then complains. I'm sure blizzard is wiping their tears over how much everyone hates the game with the millions upon millions of dollars they made and keep making. I put probably 1000+ hours in D3 but I waited until D4 was out for a bit before making a decision. I am yet to buy it and probably wont unless a lot changes. If this kind of common sense was the norm we wouldn't be getting shitty games from so many studios all the time. Oh well. People are going to keep buying shitty games so they'll keep getting made
@JMPERager
@JMPERager Год назад
@@bestieswithtesties It's just sad because often times the world and story designs and ideas are soooo cool that you just really want to play the game anyway, even if it sucks. At least that's how I am. I buy games knowing they'll be shit in many ways, but buy it for the story, the world design etc. Like CoD MW2, I wasn't gonna buy it, but seeing people play through the campaign made me buy it, and sure the multiplayer has been sorta fun, but the main reason I bought it was for the story and missions. I think most people think the same too, perhaps not specifically with MW2, but since people hype up certain games with new original ideas and designs, and then get disappointed by the actual game aspect.
@kennychristiansen9847
@kennychristiansen9847 Год назад
​@Darkness5423 one of the main reasons I loved elden ring. Didn't have to buy shit.
@MrThunderFx
@MrThunderFx Год назад
Not developers but diversity hires
@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148
Very true and the main reason why everything is turning to crap.
@StayTrueToThySELF
@StayTrueToThySELF Год назад
Go woke, go broke.
@gm08351
@gm08351 Год назад
>cool dudes make a cool game >company grows but dudes just wanna make games so hire out for the office jobs >liberal woman gets in HR who hires more liberal women >studio gets ruined and the original guys leave
@encryptedxchaos3321
@encryptedxchaos3321 Год назад
More true then true. Don't give a shit what anyone says. This is the reason we get ass games.
@ArthurVingot
@ArthurVingot Год назад
This is what's sad. If you look at the picture of the Mobius Digital team (the people who made Outer Wilds), they are diverse as hell. But NONE of them are diversity hires, they are just good at their jobs, and the result was one of the best games ever made. Diversity for the sake of diversity is turning this industry to sh*t.
@wahidpawana424
@wahidpawana424 10 месяцев назад
They looked like they spend more time testing different hair dye then testing their game.
@user-pz1iq3fl2e
@user-pz1iq3fl2e 11 месяцев назад
Blizzard has gone woke. The end is near.
@therebelfrogy9287
@therebelfrogy9287 Год назад
We live in a world where incompetence is being promoted 😢
@neolordie
@neolordie Год назад
but they're good at their job, they do art, not gameplay
@cyberius6
@cyberius6 Год назад
As long as you are not a white male... in that case you actually have to know exactly what you're doing and be 110% to compete
@cutejustice
@cutejustice Год назад
@@neolordieexactly??? The amount of hate directed at these two are so baseless. “Woke” etc. Jesus Christ bunch of degens
@budc.8172
@budc.8172 Год назад
Its not Incompetence its Diversity. same thing really.
@SeanyMack
@SeanyMack Год назад
It's called bio-leninism
@lonewanderer2287
@lonewanderer2287 Год назад
A Barb and a Rogue took 25 minutes, exaggerating, to kill the boss. List of dungeon variety: Kill bells Kill Orbs Kill _________ Save prisoners Return______ to pedestal Collect animus As a bonus: “We came here to purge this evil…” here’s a chest filled with 600 item power trash. LMAO
@konnan442
@konnan442 Год назад
I was thinking the same thing, 2 lvl 50's in WT1....
@3g3q5
@3g3q5 4 месяца назад
Diversity is their strength. Entertaining gamers not anymore.
@cooper4451
@cooper4451 Год назад
If blizzard sent out 2 men asmon wouldn’t give a fuck about their feelings
@SammEater
@SammEater Год назад
This is what happens when a company is more busy trying to get a good ESG score than hiring people that actually know how to make a game.
@Ynoke94
@Ynoke94 Год назад
True
@fthecommies9241
@fthecommies9241 Год назад
Diversity is the death of everything.
@billceleven
@billceleven 11 месяцев назад
amazes me these women take this jobs on a platter
@sebicmiel4221
@sebicmiel4221 10 месяцев назад
ESG score? What's so woke about Diablo 4?
@SammEater
@SammEater 10 месяцев назад
@@sebicmiel4221 The devs.
@AVFromgaming
@AVFromgaming Год назад
They were just spamming A and saying the following at the same time: Hey we have meetings and we test our dungeons 🤡🤡
@wight4991
@wight4991 Год назад
they aren't even playing the game. they are just looking at a recording of gameplay, if we can count spamming A the entire time as "gameplay", and reading from a teleprompter, which you can see in the reflection of her glasses. heck, they're even lifting their hands to gestikulate but their characters magically are still using abillities bound to the buttons they are clearly not even touching at the moment!
@pumpgod940
@pumpgod940 8 месяцев назад
The fact they spent time stroking their own ego instead of talking about the game tells you they don't really give a fuck about the game.
@Badga3
@Badga3 7 месяцев назад
artists not playing the game is why liliths attack visuals dont match the damage area
@grasgruen84
@grasgruen84 Год назад
of course the dungeon didnt feel that empty for someone that fights a grey mob for 15s... if you fight for 1 minute then walk 10s its not that bad. but normal people kill those mobs in 1s and then have to walk 10s again. its a totally different feeling. thats why they should be able to play their game to be able to do a good design...
@0BlitZKieG0
@0BlitZKieG0 Год назад
It was so painful to watch. So much content lol. Of course there is a lot of content if one dungeon takes more than an hour to finish at world tier 1 lvl 50.
@tjollarna
@tjollarna Год назад
Yeah definitely why o stop playing. I had to much time to think what am I doing with my life.
@grumblegrim
@grumblegrim Год назад
The fact that they published this video tells you exactly why the game will never be fixed.
@Blazemoth
@Blazemoth 11 месяцев назад
Really hope Blizzard goes bankrupt, they're obviously prioritizing inclusion over actual talent.
@duewhat9815
@duewhat9815 8 месяцев назад
When there's 10-100 people critiquing other peoples' work and changing it to fit their standards all on one canvas is it actually even art at that point or is it just a product?
@broggully
@broggully Год назад
perfect example of what bureaucracy within a studio does to video game development
@rich9973
@rich9973 Год назад
Get the dungeon designers to play through the incompetently designed dungeons. Good move blizz
@PappyMcPoyle-vj4vt
@PappyMcPoyle-vj4vt 11 месяцев назад
Screw the hair...... I'm worried about ol girls teeth. They're brown.
@unnamed_account663
@unnamed_account663 11 месяцев назад
I used to speedrun games and there is a real skill that is developed over many years of playing, talking and streaming all at the same time. These 2 have no muscle memory in any of these, their brain is most likely over loaded with stimulus, they're talking on autopilot, playing on autopilot, while in the back of their head thinking "people will watch this". Just shows the incompetence of some decision makers in the team not understanding that people all have skills they own through out their lives, and making anyone do something outside of their skill set will make them look like novice and undermine their real skills. This should have been done by the beta testers who probably had 1000s of hours by this point and could auto pilot the game properly, not the art department.
@punchykarma6685
@punchykarma6685 Год назад
Aonuma who is the head of Zelda did 20 total clears of TOTK. That is someone who knows the ins and outs of the game which is why it is so good. He understands the game. Many of the people at Blizzard have completely different perspectives of Diablo 4 which can lead to different visions of what the game should be. With conflicting visions can lead to creative conflicts. If your studio does not have a clear idea on what you want the game to be then you will have a mess of a game. Sometimes too many people is a bad thing and too many different visions is a bad thing.
@zollof6699
@zollof6699 Год назад
Anyone who develops a game should be required to do this, or at least read this comment. 😂 Not only would it work as bug testing by the creators, but just the fact that I've played an outragous amount of recent games that are not only bug-ridden to hell and back. But some of them are cool concepts, but the ideas and mechanics just get lost in translation, and even more are just straight up not fun and an obvious money grab. It's pretty sickening to see some of these really shit games that also have obvious "payed reviewers", where tons of people do the opposite of a review bomb and talk about how good the game is. Some of them are even copy and pasted. 😂 But people keep giving these companies tons of money, so it's not likely to stop, at least in the mainstream games.
@thewormemperor
@thewormemperor Год назад
Which one is that?
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