@@CBRN-115 Too obvious ... but i guess the Devil can't wait to welcome Bobby in his realm - he would be a perfect assistant. 🤔🤔🤔 is there a fan-mod where Bobby is the endboss? If not there definitly should be one!
At this point you're all just waiting for the p2w update. It's funny how everyone is expecting it and at the same time believing it won't happen. Thank god I dont touch any of this shit from Blizz since 2018 lol
“Remember when Blizzard was cool and ethical?” I remember when I didn’t know anything about the business side of gaming. These companies were always like this.
It’s pretty insane, the amount of money that gets thrown around by game companies compared to other entertainment media. If you heard someone spent 68.7 billion dollars to buy a movie studio, you’d think they’d gone completely insane. Lucasfilm was sold for a “mere” 4 billion.
And yet they are cowards with it at the same time. Going strictly for products with mass appeal and attempting maximize monetization. How many Warframe clone attempts came and died within a year? Back for blood, avengers, a slew of mobile games too.
Thank you for putting in the jay wilson "f that loser" quote. People always remember the "do you guys not have phones" one but not what Jay said. Such vitriol to the creater of the IP and genre. And what David said was so diplomatic and tame too. And it wasnt just Jay. It was all the big whigs on the D3 team trash talking him.
@Mutto for real? You're not joking, are you? 😳😕 I had absolutely no idea that that was how they'd responded to the audience, so thank you very much for letting me know! Btw, I'm really curious, do you perhaps have a source video, or article or something where I could hear them respond with this? I'd love to see, hear or read it for myself 😊🙏 Anyhow, thank you for your comment, Mutto! 👍 I hope you have a great day! 😉
@@lugoorstar No offense taken 🙂 However, I must admit that I don't understand your reaction. I swear my comment wasn't at all meant in jest, nor was it meant sarcastically! As the original commenter @Mutto noted, the fact that Jay Wilson (who was the lead designer of Diablo III) replied "f*** that loser" to the Red Shirt Guy when he asked if the announcement of Diablo Immortal was "a late-season April Fools joke" is almost always left out when people bring up the "don't you guys have phones?" moment. I mean, I had absolutely no idea that there even were multiple replies from Blizzard employees to the Red Shirt Guy's question, hence my initial incredulous comment! I honestly have no idea why anyone would experience any disgust when reading my comment. So, if I may ask, would you mind letting me know why my comment made you experience that disgust? I am honestly curious.
0:37 "No matter how mad you get at Blizzard during this video, youre still going to buy Diablo IV" - incredibly based callout, thanks for including this Kudos
If you do, please enjoy the hell out of it, play it till you burn out, and as soon as you get the slightest temptation to open your wallet, GTFO. Resist the temptation, enjoy what’s there, and then go play better games.
@@JathraDH Tbh it saves you a lot of money, time, and heartbreak too. I don't know how fun Diablo 4 is right now, but I don't expect it to stay fun for long without paying extra. Why put yourself through that, half-complete a game and then have to give up on it, when you can just play something like Grim Dawn or something instead? X3
@@awdwadawda352 Since the developers themselves tend not to profit so much from that shit i imagine there are at least some who hate what they have to do to their own game...
@@lordmontymord8701 Imagine hearing the mobile game you made generated over 300M and you got about 5-8k a month (which is apparently what the low to average Blizzard/NetEase employee makes). I would also not like to be working on something you know is being developed purely to be addicting and empty people's pockets.
Something that gets overlooked about the Diablo Immortal announcement is that the audience was actually very receptive and excited about the announcement. It all fell apart during the Q&A over the no PC support (which turned out to be false.) All he had to do was acknowledge the feedback and NOT antagonize the audience.
I dunno. Towards the end of the announcement, the crowd falls entirely silent over what are clearly scripted pauses for cheers. People will just cheer at things naturally when you get them in a crowd, so making the whole room quiet is an accomplishment. Speaking as someone who was there physically, that was one of the most uncomfortable rooms I've ever been in even before the Q&A.
they just needed to leak D IV short or something and people would be happy, but they didnt and put it before hard core fans which all of them have propably gaming computers
Uh no, no the audience was not. Or did you miss the chorus of "Boo" and "What the fuck!?" that rippled through the crowed when the D:I logo came up on the screen?
they do not wanted pc gamers, they are not brainwashed by the mobile gaming environment. on pc you already get riots for an 80 usd or 100 usd full price, and almost nobody pays full price for the every six month expansion in the games that run on that model, but waits for a sale. on mobile, having a 10 or 100 usd weekly item sale is perfectly normal and the local whales will pay that for any games they are in, sometime even multiple games. so the immortal price was perfectly acceptable for those players, dropping 100 usd for the daily dungeon run would be ok.
11:23 The main issue here is that they're manufacturing a problem and then selling you the solution. Instead of charging money to skip the grind, maybe just don't make it so grindy.
I remember a Polygon article titled something like “I played Diablo Immortal while paying for it, and I had a good time.” All the comments were variations on the theme of “No fucking shit, asshole, that’s the whole point.”
@@Avendesora I don't know, he seems to have original comments on other videos. May be bland takes, but probably just some guy The take is right though. Fuck Blizzard
Blizzard has developed the reverse Midas Touch. Everything they come into contact with seems to go from *gold* to *shit* , its a talent at this point. Even Diablo 4 I'm afraid, which is pretty good based on reviews and overall fan reception, will inevitably meet the same fate.
While not buying this game just keep these thoughts in your head... "I have a giant backlog of amazing games" "There are better games on GOG" "Grim Dawn is made by better people" "Blizzard is partially owned by China"
Immediate suggestions for alternatives would be Torchlight and Minecraft Dungeons. If someone wants to go down the emulation route Champions of Norrath on the PS2 is awesome too. Grab a used copy of the Diablo 2 Battle Chest if you’re mainly interested in Single Player. Plenty of Diablo-esque ARPGs out there for that itch.
@Pirate Bear what about a Diablo 3 like A-RPG....... cause having ADHD means tye speed and progression of Doablo 2 is the equivalent of slowly putting a Red Hot Knife through my fucking Uretha
@@Sonichero151 immediate thought would be Diablo 3 for console. If giving Acti-Blizzard money is a problem you have used copies and there’s no online requirement. Even has couch co-op on 1 copy. From my limited recollection Torchlight was closer to D3 than D2 as well, but it’s been a while on all them
I can warmly recommend Grim Dawn but the style and setting of the game is more steampunk with magic, so that might not be for everyone. Path of Exile is another, but I personally hate that it has microtransactions and a community you can't opt out of.
Remember the man, the myth, the legend, who said what everyone was thinking during the Diablo Immortal showing. Words immemorial that would shake the future of Blizzard “Is this some sort of out of season April fools joke?”
Hey, didn't hear anything about the gold auction house from the D3 segment. It was almost impossible to save up the amount you'd need to buy a cutting edge weapon for your level. But there was an auto-buy system based on specific thresholds for certain items. I remember buying MF rings from vendors or something an reliably being able to resell them for a solid profit. They sold out in waves so you know it wasn't just some rando picking up a MF ring
I put every legendary I got in the cash auction house. 2-3 dollars for a level 16 legendary mace. 10 dollars for a witch doctor ceremonial mask. It was so bizarre and interacting with it made me feel uneasy, scummy.
I worked at Toys R Us until the end. Our location had about 89 copies of 'Diablo 3' for the xbox 360 I had moved to an impulse rack that sat at the front end with a sign breaking down the price reduction. They were less than a dollar a copy. No one bought them and they ended up with the liquidator.
Ahhh you maybe should have scooped them up at $1. No Man's Sky console went down to like $1 a copy and now since the game is half okay they're back up to $20 used I believe. As others have pointed out D3 console never had an AH or needed to be online to play it's basically the superior version of D3.
I remember The Jimquisition got so much shit for covering these stories as they occurred and they got swamped especially on the Diablo 3 Auction House.
Think it could have worked if only lower level catch-up gear was sellable, and the occasional super rare inferno piece that could be auctioned (like WoW's raid BoE's). Everything else would be soulbound like normal.
I was one of those people decrying the baffling changes they were making to Diablo 3 when you compare it to 1 and 2 and I stuck to my guns and never bought it.
@@Morbidoner Sorry blizzard can't into art anymore. I don't want to play an ugly game. DOTA 1 will always be superior to DOTA 2 because DOTA 2 looks and sounds like garbage. Was just watching a video that went into D3's bad sound design. I just don't trust Blizzard to make a decent game anymore. Ugly plastic game looks like it was made by an ai. Went to check the classes. Oh necromancer. Oh it's a girl of course. Oh the SorcerER is back. I missed him. Oh he's a girl now. No he's not a Sorceress that's sexist. 3/5 of the characters are girls. If they add to more characters at least 1 will be a girl it's in their diversity character modeler. So 4/6 of the characters will be girls. Your parents are going to think something weird is going on in your room hearing all that lady grunting.
"You probably bought Diable 4 anyway" made me laugh. Funny enough, I haven't bought ANY Blizzard game (Or played one) since the Blitzchung incident, and honestly, it's been wild. It's like by NOT giving them money, I've bought into a stock that pays out whenever they fuck up. Everytime the next absolutely horrible thing comes out about them, it's like a voice from heaven sings down to me "Look at all the money you did waste here". I love it.
So many good games under a ten dollar price point that dont require hefty rigs to play, im surprised there hasn't been a massive crash of these companies. Then again they are probably too big to ever truly go bankrupt at this point.
@@Sonichero151 If you mean blizzard players that's actually a feature not a bug. The nicest people I ever met online were in Everquest. The worst people I ever met online were in WoW. This was within a few years of each other. How can similar games attract such different people? The blizzard effect of the lowest common denominator. Whew thank you all just reading these comments reminds me of why I won't even play their games for free anymore. Had more fun playing wartune with poor people in the philipines then listening to teenagers chew in wow.
These companies are swimming in money they will never stop. This modern day game model works even tho it’s bad. The consumer is the issue..a game like madden can make 1 billion in a year from MUT which is a trading card mode. And we know somebody is buying those $25 skins in Overwatch.
Part of me even admires the craftmanship that went into the manipulation of Diablo Immortals monetization. Clearly someone with a good insight in human psychology designed this. But how could one betray their profession so.
What do you mean? That's the entire purpose of their profession. If people with problems walked into their office and healthy people walked out they'd be out of business in a week. Like all modern medicine you just treat the symptoms or better yet convince them they have symptoms. You think all those medicine ads on tv are just for fun?
@@Drak976 Ads are there to incite interest and make people buy your product, that's not malicious. But to use psychology to very carefully build an addiction is the exact opposite of what psychology as a science stands for.
Sad thing is I heard some colleges that have psychology study have some college student who just want to graduate so they get hire by companies that need them for their own nefarius schemes. Just look at the current landscape of mobile game market now? Blizzard know what they want to exploit of and mobile game user regardless if they are teenager or higher age acting like they has been brainwashed and keeo saying "part of the business" or even worse "Gacha ain't gambling" clearly a sign of cry for help.
I played World of Warcraft when it first came out many, many years ago when i was just a dumb kid. it was so insanely boring that i never looked at another Blizzard game. WOW is one of the worst games i ever tried to play
Honestly it amuses me how much the remake of Brood War and D2 was focused on "We're literally just re-skinning it, and updating the matchmaking software. Even the pathfinding glitches are being left in." I didn't appreciate until Warcraft 3 Reforged that you could do worse than nothing when making a remaster.
@@andrewhoward6946 They did the same in homeworld as well. All the bullets used to path their own physics and now it's just another dumb graphics while it's a hit % in the background like most lame brain games. I'm not sure I've ever seen a remake be better. Certainly in movies don't know why people would think otherwise for games.
The team that developed the microtransaction mechanics in D Immoral did a great job indeed. A pity they did not have the same level of expertise in other departments.
@@billforson3143 it actually goes farther back from my knowledge or at the very least, the real start of p2w began in Asian countries (China & Korea) around the same time as horse armor Absurdly p2w to the point every p2w scandle in Western game up to this point is mere child's play. It makes our p2w seem ethical. Honestly when I saw Netease was co developing and the main developer of Diablo Immortal It was a pure wrap for any semblance of a fair game. Netease is infamous for clone games of popular series with some of the most popular p2w games out there. and since Immortal was made with a Chinese/Korean market first, by a Chinese developer, everything just falls into place and dates back to at least 2007. I feel like Diablo Immortal, if it was completely in house, wouldn't have been as p2w or p2w at all, theres a lot of mobile games that are free that respect your time & don't require money now. But partner with one of the most infamous mobile publishers, well, you get Immortal.
meanwhile world of warcraft still does not get publicly criticized for their pricing. $35 AUD for ONE mount, $15 per pet, 12 month sub around $120 ontop of expansions each time being over 100$
There's actually another diablo available for free! And it's really good! It's called path of exile and it doesn't try to suck out all your money every second.
Bobby Kotick is absolutely worth a video on himself. That slimy, dirtball piece of shit should have as many videos done on him as possible. There should be no where he can run where people don't know what a piece of garbage he is.
@@FeiFongWang I'm not sure if that was Bobby or not. It happened under his leadership but I recall it was a manager who did that. He has however threaten to murder his secretary if she ever leaked about the mismanagement and abuse at the company a couple years before the lawsuit.
"Dislikes are temporary unavailable" On this, and Indigo Gaming also just released a critical upload on Diablo 3 that also has "dislikes temporarily unavailable" while other recent uploads do not.... almost as if RU-vid's been paid off to hide dislikes on videos uploaded with diablo in the title even from people who use the app to bring back dislikes... >__>
I for one am proud to admit I have not spent a single dollar, nor even a single minute, on any Blizzard product for the last two years and have no intention of doing so ever again.
@@kivati Enjoy it while it lasts. Because we both know it won’t. Sooner or later they’re gonna pull the rug. That you can always trust this company to do. They did it with WoW Classic. They've been doing it with WoW Retail. Warcraft. Overwatch, HoTS, the list goes on. Diablo Immortal even. And if you Diablo 4 is going to be special in that they don't rug pull it... I almost feel sorry for ya.
@@kivati If that were true of all of you saying this then none of you would be here now would you? You'd be off playing it. Probably a dozen people in these comments telling me how great 4 is. I remember how fun 2 was. Because I played it a lot. @Silver You may think you want a fun game but you don't. -Blizzard about bringing back WoW classic. Of course we're not bringing wow tokens to classic! At this point remember how huge actiblizzard is and how microsoft (Melinda Gates came up with that one on their wedding night) might acquire them. I wonder if bliz games have even been at all popular for the last 20 years? I'm rather certain part of why they brought the inter server group finder was so that noone could catch on that you were getting grouped with bots. How many hundreds of BiS fully equipped people did you see just running random dungeons? I'd see more people just standing around with BiS then my server had raiding guilds. Just random people fully kitted out. Not saying anything. Just standing there. What if Bliz has basically been an AI empire for over 10 years?
D3+RoS was worth it Dragonflight is worth it Starcraft 2 campaign and coop bundles are worth it Diablo 4 is worth it Warcraft 3 reforged is... not worth it
20:13 it is however worth noting that Google Play uses a weighted average. older reviews factor in to the overall rating a lot less. an app that drives tons of users away and never meaningfully improves will still see its rating climb, because the folks it drove away won't stick around to re-rate it
So the whole section around gold and forum gold is kind of scuffed. Diablo 2 had almost no gold sinks, as well as a limit on the amount of gold which could be held at a time. On top of that, you'd lose a big chunk of that gold on death. It was never going to be a good "currency" for trading. D2jsp actually got started from providing forum gold for people who would make posts or reply in posts. This amount decreased over the years until eventually being zeroed out. While there was no direct way to turn d2jsp gold back into real money and doing so was against the site rules, there was of course a "black market" for forum gold, since nothing stopped people from sending it to each other.
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I think it's mostly younger people or people who weren't into gaming or never played a blizzard game. It's one thing to play a bad game that was always bad. Watching the best games get worse and worse over years is extremely painful.
"Do you guys not have phones?!" No, I don't Man, I hated that enough when Reggie said that about the Nintendo App And I can't even play Immortal with my tablet, so this was double a slap in the face
Oh wow.. I remember being really excited for arena mode in D3 and it never came. Then I got really excited for pve mode in OW2 and that never came too.
Error 37 feels like the karmic punishment for Evo Moment 37. For every big moment in gaming we get a shitty launch, 'tis the law of equivalent exchange.
Just stop supporting Blizzard in general. They haven't been the company we loved since 2008 when Activision bought them over. I think we were all hoping Microsoft would fix it. I think it's been long enough now to understand that Microsoft have no intention of fixing it. We should have stopped playing their games 15 years ago
@@lightbluesquid I'm just making my way through my backlog of games. I checked my SteamDB page - 700+ games unplayed. I blame a Humble Bundle addiction
While it was a total shit-show, I at least understand why the Auction House existed *in theory* (the "in theory" part is incredibly important). Considering that D2's standard online trade valuation was at one point based on the Stone of Jordan (instead of gold) and eBay had to ban sales of in-game items due to rampant scamming, I get them wanting to keep that from happening; it's just that a cash-based auction house is terrible even if it weren't for them taking a cut.
Yeah, I was quite excited for Diablo IV having played the Beta, but then on the Purchase screen I saw the price tag, the battlepass and worst of all the premium currency and decided to pass on yet another diablo game. If I get the itch again I'll just boot up Diablo 2 again. And meanwhile there are games that respect my money and time better I can play instead.
I'm hearing impaired, and the auto-subtitles keep randomly writing 'porno' instead of 'pawn of' or 'pawn or'... and quite frankly, that's the one gaff that could make this video even better! XD Thanks again for another hilarious-yet-informative video!
"Diablo 3's planned pvp mode was quietly pushed down an elevator shaft while no one was looking" Well its good to see blizzard has turned over a new leaf, now they push pve modes down an elevator shaft while no one is looking
@15:25 That does actually happen for example the company LG, used to stand for "Lucky Goldstar" where the western marketers said (and I might be paraphrasing): "This s*#t aint gonna fly yo...."
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I won't touch a game made by Blizzard anymore. What a terrible company. I've stuck to my boycott every since they started silencing and banning players who stood up for Hong Kong.
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I feel the same way about Blizzard that I do about Nintendo. The suits and corpos make the bad decisions and are the face of the company and the devs are the people who actually make the stuff people care about. I know it's not as simple as that but it's why I don't do boycotts. There are too many people working on these things to boycott the entire thing because a few money hungry suits grew horns and decided they liked them.
Just remember, your loyalty to devs is not shared by these companies. It is common practice to fire a majority of the dev staff on completion of a project. So, when you're watching credits, there's a strong chance 50% or more of those names don't work there anymore.
