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Dialing in a 4-jaw lathe chuck 

Tom Clemans
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This is an "easy" way to "dial in" a 4-jaw chuck on a lathe.
Two cameras were used to see two views at once.
I require my high school students to perform this skill to an accuracy of 1/1000 inch (.001") within a 2-minute time limit.
(I own the copyright of this video because I wrote the description, narrated it, and demonstrated this skill.)

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Комментарии : 66   
@rlewis1946
@rlewis1946 7 лет назад
Thanks so much for this excellent tutorial! Exact and easy to follow. Your technique has made it possible for me and others to learn a very important skill, which this 71 year old novice machinist needs to master. Great work best wishes and Happy Father's Day! Roy.....Buffalo, NY
@chuckaverett1657
@chuckaverett1657 10 лет назад
Very informative demo. The best explanation I have had to date. I am not a machinist but do turn a few items at work. This will help cut my setup time down a lot. Thanks
@jidissafi7413
@jidissafi7413 7 лет назад
Thanks from me too! This was quite a bit simpler than a few other techniques I've seen. Finally broke down and ordered a 4-jaw. Should have it in a few days and want to be ready for it. Take Care
@JoeReese-kh1jc
@JoeReese-kh1jc 3 месяца назад
Thank you. Hope this message finds you well. I avoided the four jaw for a year since leaving school... unfortunately I can no longer avoid it and am easily frustrated by the dial indicator and making the correct adjustments...
@Mentorcase
@Mentorcase 10 лет назад
Good to see someone actually tighten the part in the chuck, there are other videos that show centreing the part and say there you go it's centred but they don't actually tighten it enough to start machining.
@mikeyawehldigman6804
@mikeyawehldigman6804 3 года назад
As a beginner, I learned a simple way of how to set up the 4 jaw chack.
@johnbutler6883
@johnbutler6883 9 лет назад
Thanks. As a new lathe owner you saved me some money buying a self-centering chuck.
@brapbrapmafucka
@brapbrapmafucka 25 дней назад
There is no such thing as self centering lol
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 12 лет назад
This skill is not only useful for a machine shop job after graduation, it is also needed for the precision machining contests in February, April, and sometimes in June.
@vadersfather1248
@vadersfather1248 2 года назад
I’m a 47 year old first year apprentice tried my first four jaw job took me an hour and got it too two thou lol but this will help heaps thx m8
@JB-ol4vz
@JB-ol4vz 3 года назад
Very informative and we'll explaind, thanks a lot Mr.
@samspade2612
@samspade2612 10 лет назад
Tom, the quality of your video presentation is excellent! The use of the split screen puts this video many cuts above anything I've viewed (thus far) regarding four jaw dial-in. By no means am I implying that this video shines only due to its impeccable videography. There is absolutely no dead air time whatsoever! I've watched many shop videos that have me saying..."Yo, Vinny! Can we get on with this already! I do think though, that you should have apprised the viewers that most round stock chucked into their lathe will not be perfectly round to begin with. I would very much like to see a Tom Clemans video that properly addresses this issue. I'm a retired EE/Instructor but strictly an amateur machinist. ;-) Thanks!
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 10 лет назад
Sam, Thank you for your kind words and great suggestion! I have recently improved/streamlined the way I dial in a lathe 4-jaw chuck, so a replacement video is coming soon, hopefully by October 2014. I'll add your suggestion to the new video, Tom :-)
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 12 лет назад
Thanks! With practice, this method takes about half the time as other methods I have read about and seen demonstrated. After learning this, it takes occasional practice, as I described for eyork9.
@KevinToppenberg
@KevinToppenberg 2 года назад
I like your approach. Thanks!
@greatodinsraven
@greatodinsraven 3 месяца назад
Thank you.
@maheshjsuthar
@maheshjsuthar 8 лет назад
Hi Tom, Thank you very much for uploading nice video on 4 jaws alignment on lathe.
@paulmeynell8866
@paulmeynell8866 Год назад
Excellent video thank you
@coldstreams
@coldstreams 12 лет назад
Nice job, Tom! You do make it look easy :)
@mannyfilmsinc
@mannyfilmsinc 4 года назад
What a GREAT video!! Big THANKS!!!
@vkarunakaran267
@vkarunakaran267 3 года назад
Thanks very nice demonstration.
@DavidDyck
@DavidDyck 12 лет назад
Tom, you do make it look easy. Too bad there isn't an Olympic contest for this.
@erniehenshaw4161
@erniehenshaw4161 3 года назад
Nice instruction.
@nirajmachhi4982
@nirajmachhi4982 5 лет назад
Thanks bro helpful for me
@DanielSmith-lu5ff
@DanielSmith-lu5ff 11 лет назад
It is very possible it shortens the time it takes to dial up if you set two jaws close to the diameter if your a machinist you would know :)
@vinhdiento6303
@vinhdiento6303 10 лет назад
I own the copyright of this video because I wrote the description, narrated it, and demonstrated this skill.
@hongnhan5331
@hongnhan5331 10 лет назад
máy này là máy gi
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 9 лет назад
I wrote that line in the description because someone else was claiming copyright ownership on some of my earlier videos that were totally mine. Fortunately, they didn't claim ownership of this one. :-D
@razorworks9942
@razorworks9942 6 лет назад
I would have had the part within .0002 by the time you snugged up the jaws in the preliminary adjustments.... I guess I need to teach you!!! Razor!
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 6 лет назад
I'll gladly learn! Do you have a video that demonstrates it? If not, can you make one? BTW, when beginning in the method I showed, the jaws are non-uniformly racked out. It is a good exercise for the kids. I have since developed a slightly better sequence, but don't have a video yet. Since I just retired, it's iffy whether I can make another shop video before building my own shop a year from now, after building a new house and personal shop.
@razorworks9942
@razorworks9942 6 лет назад
Tom Clemans I hope I didn't come across as a total "SMART-ASS".... I think I do have a video showing how I do it Tom, but if not I can make one!! Funny you mention "building your house and shop" before you can make any more vids... That's exactly my predicament as I speak!! It will be seven years in Sept that I moved on to my piece of property and still working on a gravel floor!! Thanks for subscribing.... Razor!
@ashleyhouse9690
@ashleyhouse9690 9 лет назад
Great video. You mentioned you have an improved method and are intending a new video but obviously it hasn't happened yet. If that's not going to appear any time soon is it possible you could place a description on here as to what the modified steps might be?
@bakhtmuhammad8967
@bakhtmuhammad8967 5 лет назад
Very Good Very Nice
@enginelover1
@enginelover1 9 лет назад
Thanks for this video.
@nirajmachhi4982
@nirajmachhi4982 4 года назад
Thanks bro helpful information practical
@raymondorr1937
@raymondorr1937 6 лет назад
Why don't you set the indicator on the top of the part so as you tighten or loosen the jaws from the top so the leverage works with you. I've been an aerospace machinist over 40 yrs. and this is how I was taught.
@phishertube
@phishertube 10 лет назад
great video thanks
@MrJackandEmily
@MrJackandEmily 7 лет назад
This is a great lesson ... thank you .. now I can stop looking like a dick at my new job :)
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 7 лет назад
Thanks for your comment. Best wishes to you! :-)
@vintageeveryday2020
@vintageeveryday2020 5 лет назад
Hey thanks Tom. You're a good instructor. Where were you when I was in high school? Prob not even born yet, LOL.
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 5 лет назад
Thanks! I probably was born already when you were in high school. I've been out of high school 55 years this spring. Just retired this past summer. I am 1200 miles north of you. next to I-5. :-D
@vintageeveryday2020
@vintageeveryday2020 5 лет назад
@@tomclemans. Tom, you sound so young on the video...I guess I back handed complemented you. My bad. Thanks again for your video!
@DanielSmith-lu5ff
@DanielSmith-lu5ff 11 лет назад
theres an easier way. how about measuring the diameter of the shaft. set the jaws to that diameter with a vernier, then simply back two jaws off and put your job in. you imagine trying to do this with a heavy shaft no go
@HPRaceDevelopment
@HPRaceDevelopment 2 года назад
Dumb Question: I assume the parts isn't actually round or true - does that matter when trying to indicate in?
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 2 года назад
Actually it is quite close to being perfectly round, as evidenced by the indicator needle movement of less than .001" in a full rotation of the part after centering has been done. If you look closely at the surface of the bar, it is an aluminum bar that has either been extruded or rolled, and not turned yet, so that's pretty good. After turning a new outside surface, and before loosening up the jaws, there should be absolutely no movement of the indicator needle upon rotating the spindle. If the part isn't very round, then it should be adjusted so that the reading between two opposite jaws should be the same as each other, and the reading between the other two opposite jaws should be the same as each other.
@aledantas2k10
@aledantas2k10 7 лет назад
Nice video! However i find easier to use 2 chuck keys at the same time.
@valveman12
@valveman12 11 лет назад
Gr8 video. Now I need to practice :O)
@MegaWenzu
@MegaWenzu 11 лет назад
good explain thanks
@richardh1198
@richardh1198 9 лет назад
Good job my 4 jaw does not have v at the bottom just has teeth I find it a little harder to get it dial in just takes me a lot longer than u Again goodjob
@AlienRelics
@AlienRelics 11 лет назад
If he were a machinist, he'd know that.
@kaieteurcanada
@kaieteurcanada 4 года назад
But you left out the most important part... did not check for concentricity.
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 4 года назад
I think you are joking? If not, "concentricity" is a comparison two objects to make sure their centers coincide. In this case, we are comparing the tested part against the spindle axis. When there is no runout detected, the part is concentric with the spindle axis, which is the intent of "dialing in" the part.
@kaieteurcanada
@kaieteurcanada 4 года назад
@@tomclemans Correct, but its only concentric at the exact point you dialed, theres no guarantee that the two extreme ends of the rod are running parallel with the spindle axis. Dialing in on a four jaw chuck should always be done at two points to ensure concentricity with the spindle axis.
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 4 года назад
@@kaieteurcanada Ah, you weren't joking. I see your point now. Thanks!
@Musique3579
@Musique3579 12 лет назад
WowTom. How neat that you know about things like this. Great video! As for myself, all I have are "hand Tools that look like they belonged to the Flintstones. Question: Could that be used top "turn out" a Vox Humana? If so, I'll eat it and buy you another. Promise! :-) All the best- Craig
@ganeshtalbe8105
@ganeshtalbe8105 5 лет назад
Nice bhau
@seabears_hate_circles
@seabears_hate_circles 9 лет назад
When I dial in a 4 jaw and I'm using aluminum, I always end up with teeth marks in the piece that dent and ruin the faced ends of my piece. Is this just because I'm making it too tight or is this to be expected as it is aluminum?
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 9 лет назад
Denting the part is often what happens, but it usually doesn't matter if you're holding the unfinished end. If you're holding a finished end, and you don't want to dent it with the vise jaws, it needs more care. You can put a piece of card stock between the jaws and the part. The easiest way to do this is to wrap the card stock almost all the way around the part. Make sure card stock protects the part from all three jaws. Then take care you don't squeeze the part too tightly as you're dialing it in. Best wishes with this!!!
@seabears_hate_circles
@seabears_hate_circles 9 лет назад
Thanks so much, I'll have to try that!
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 6 лет назад
Better than cardstock is shimstock. And you can always use brass or copper between the jaws and the part, in sufficient thickness no matter how much you tighten you will not get those jaw marks on your workpiece.
@brettershoalar9001
@brettershoalar9001 6 лет назад
LoadedMod94 If I have to make some pieces right along the days, I am just happy with a clamp collar. Once made, it covers a few working pieces up - shurely, it belongs on the rotating time and size of the working piece.
@wanabear5716
@wanabear5716 11 лет назад
Is that possible as all the jaws are independent surely you could have it well out im interested ??Thanks
@smoker3092
@smoker3092 8 лет назад
How about a self centering lathe chuck? Why don't you get one of these?
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 8 лет назад
We also have 3-jaw centering chucks for each lathe. While far quicker, a 4-jaw can be dialed in far more accurately. Also, a 4-jaw can be offset a precise distance, so that a section of the shaft can be turned with a different center.
@ainguyen7350
@ainguyen7350 6 лет назад
in this video has this sentence "inside the jaws are little bit concave so this part kind of settles into the middle of the vise changes of the chuck jaw". is this correct. because i need to sub your video
@tomclemans
@tomclemans 6 лет назад
Sorry for my error, and thanks for asking about it. I started to say "vise jaw" but quit half-way through the word "jaw," and immediately corrected it to say "chuck jaw." The term "vise jaw" is incorrect. It is obvious that those are chuck jaws.
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