Saw a news article shit talking gen z for buying lab diamonds because coal is used in the process and I'm sitting here like no shit but it's better than funding warlords that whip children just to have a "natural" diamond 😂
Yeah, that goes for all meterials. How is living in seclusion without buying anything going on for you? With that mindset might as well not use electronic devices either, due to the way companies get their hands on lithium and cobalt, if you are honest. But i smell hollier than thou prententiousness and an attempt at appearing better.
@@SG-pu3rx it's completely different, it can't be helped electronic devices are a need not a want because everything today depends on it from work to school whereas a diamond jewellery is a want not a need so we can make a better choice about it whenever we can.
a smartphone became a basic tool today, try to use cash money and solve bank problems wasting time at lines, we became dependant on tech, it is real, and i am sure some people was whipped so i can see this Yt short in a plastic box, but i dont buy jewelry or anything from Nike. Of course if people talk about the Next Iphone will have a "cruelty free" certificate anyway.
@@soju69jinro Johns financetips just recommended going to a De Beers competitor -any lab diamond manufacturers. So uh - yes. Yes that's exactly it. Fuck De Beers.
@@jonathanhibberd9983they’re so ugly compared to other gems tbh. I mean they’re pretty sure but they’re not very special feeling,,, like just a clearish white and grey? I always thought diamond just kind of look like fancy glass
@@lilyfae7197 I don't thing diamonds are ugly. They do have a way more intense and over the top sparkle when there are lots of small diamonds packed closely together in a multi-stone setting that coloured gems don't have. So it gives a literal glitter lens flare effect even to the naked eye if it's in the right types of jewellery. But I understand what you say. If it's a single stone piece of jewellery, a colourless diamond is less visually interesting or pretty than an emerald. sapphire, ruby, amethyst, aquamarine or whatever colour gem.
@@MercurySteel Not exactly. Buying gold for the girls and women in the family has been a tradition in all Asian countries, irrespective of culture or religion. The obsession with Diamonds is mostly a western thing.
having been a fine jewelry salesperson that knows all of this but was pushed to sell, he's totally right. the only way a jeweler will ever be able to tell the difference between lab grown diamonds and earth mined is because lgds are inscribed to denote that they're lab grown. you can get a diamond with much higher clarity, and color for much less. if a customer came in with this conversation for me i would explode though because if someone says their budget is 500 i would always work hard to sell them 529 or something. weird, unethical industry on the sales side and the industry side alike
When you say you would "explode," do you mean out of anger or excitement? And would you try selling them something for $529 to say you up-sold them, or just because $529 is right around the $500 budget anyway? Sorry, I'm just curious as to the thought process
I wouldn't be mad at you, especially if you sold me a more impressive ring, compensating for actual carats and lab diamonds for that $529. Maybe move up to platinum 😊
Most women won't feel "unique" or "special" if you do that. Theyll feel like shit. Like every other woman has a guy who gets her an expensive diamond but her guy is too cheap to do so
A geologist on tiktok explored options and why theyre mostly bad long term and everyday use. They either lose color or get wear and tear. Turns out diamonds are great because you can wear it everyday and it wont get ruined.
Funfact: Gold is/should be universally more expensive than diamonds. I'm not kidding, a Diamond is just a pressured carbon-rock. On the other hand, Gold is formed with the collision of two nebula stars aka supernova nucleosynthesis. The gold is much rarer and even older than Earth, or sometimes, the whole solar system 💀
??? This is true for literally all elements other than hydrogen, helium and lithium lol. Carbon also formed through the same cosmic events and can be older than the earth
That's a good point. Diamonds are easily created through processes on earth and other plants and can be made in a lab. Gold comes from exploding stars.
Get a ruby or any colour of sapphire. The choice of colours is almost limitless, the sapphires are more rare, and their hardness for daily wear is excellent.
That kinda depends on people. I walk like idgaf and I must have accidentally scratched at least 5 cars passing by with my ring. I don't think a ruby would have survived.
This is a good recommendation if you don't anticipate to ever sell those stones. Do understand that due to diamonds popularity they are easiest to sell and fetch the highest resale value. Lab diamonds you can simply throw away, there's zero resale value.
Coloured gems are so much prettier and more ethically sourced. If you really want the look of a diamond though, and don't want cubic zirconia, go Lab grown! They're cheaper and look almost identical to a real diamond.
Look almost identical 😂😂😂 they are the same thing , the ONLY difference is a natural diamond may have inclusions lab grown will not , so lab grown are actually more flawless than natural diamond. I have both
One step further: De Beers dont just "inflate" the price of diamonds, they created this whole diamond ring engagement craze first in the US, some spill-over to western Europe (though most people dont care and it's very optional and usually purchased together if at all) and second craze in Japan, where it seems to be just as bad these days. Anyway, shopping artificial to avoid supporting the horrific trade and extraction by dictators, terrorists or PMCs is a good alternative if you got to buy one.
Real diamonds are also mined unethically. I just went with moissanite. Looks like a diamond, but sparkles more in light. Also more affordable to have good quality moissanite vs a bad quality diamond.
@@kuobah Mainly in Africa such as Zimbabwe and Angola where we get a lot of our diamonds. Feel free to read about it because it’s pretty horrible with unethical child labor and human rights issues. Basically slave labor where workers die pretty frequently.
I did this too! My engagement ring has a small real diamond on it, and I do love it too, but my wedding band has a few small stones on it as well and we got them in moisonite bc after the engagement ring we couldn’t afford diamonds for that. Having both side by side, I swear they look exactly the same. I’ve heard moisonite does wear out a bit eventually over time, but I figure if that ever does happen, it’ll be far enough in the future that I could just replace them then
What? DeBeers, the company that invented the whole "buy diamonds for engagement presents" shit and is sitting on a huge pile of diamonds that they release vvveeerrryyyyy slowly to create a false scarcity and jack up the prices is also mistreating its workers??? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell ya! /s
This applies to most wedding based things too. Catering for a wedding? Minimum 8 months advance. Catering for a 200 person event? 1 month. Wedding tungsten ring? $1800. Tungsten ring? $50 My sister planned a wedding in 1 month. (The venue was from family though, so thta helepd a lot)
It's because there is'nt enough shit to buy for the super rich. That's why they make up absurd prices on gemstones, watches, cars, houses and so on. There is no watch in the world that's worth $1.000.000. There's no car in the world that's worth millions and no stone that's worth millions 😂
@@Can-0-SoupIts a joke. The guy above was referencing a video about a dad talking about wedding dresses on Facebook marketplace and how recently divorced women are the ones who sell those dresses. Plus the filter by size part ... Well you can guess😂😂
I prefer lab diamonds because then I know it came from a way more ethical place. A lot of hand mined diamonds are blood diamonds or cause A TON of emissions.
People still sleep on man-made diamonds. They're almost identical to the molecular structure of a natural diamond, they've got less occlusions than a natural diamond, the colour is better and they're less than half the cost. Added bonus is the ethical factor.
I like it when my stuff is stained with blood. The more souls it cost to extract, the better, because then it makes for a better sacrifice. My mechanical pencil alone is worth 3 sweatshop human souls (and half a cat for some reason), so it got me two full Space Jam DVDs.
You know, Diamonds aren't really rare. They are so expensive because *their prices are artificially inflated.* In cosmic scale, Diamond forms pretty easily. Gold on the other half is rare. It is one of the densest element, that can (maybe) *only be formed during supernova (death) of stars.* So, I suggest you *buy a ring of gold or platinum* , which may be considered "less expensive" but is actually more significant than diamonds. Or even better, buy wood. *Wood is only found on Earth.* None of the other planets discovered till now has wood. So if you want to give some thing astronomically rare, give *wooden items*
The thing that blows my mind when I see gold [in bullion or in jewellery] is that this material, that I'm seeing right before my eyes, is older than the solar system.
Wood could be seen as hippy-ish, I can see how some people would think it was a poor choice... I like the idea though of a solid nice wooden ring made of some nice wood
I work at Kay, can confirm that labs are not only exactly the same as naturals chemically, but they also are typically much clearer with way less imperfections. I have no desire to ever have a natural diamond ring.
Actually… don't go to a jewelry at all. Or - go to a jewelry, pick any shape and size you like, don't buy it, and go to a local jeweler, order the custom made one on selected design, and save up to 80-90% of the price, while on the same time supporting local craftsmanship, and gifting your significant one with something definitely more unique instead.
In South Africa there are commonly long worker strikes in industries for wage negotiations. The only industry that never really suffers any income loss from that is diamond mining. They are sitting on a huge amount of stored diamonds that they just slowly sell off.
I (26f) did Geology at GCSE-level (Freshman and Sophmore age group and exams). Quite surprised I got a B considering my teacher was having a nervous breakdown (poor Mr Church😢), but one of his biggest bits of advice when we got to learning about gemstones was... don't bother with diamonds. As pretty as they can be, they're a waste of money. (I'm paraphrasing here.) He recommended boys, spend six months studying what your girl wears colour-wise and jewellery-wise, save up to find something you think she'll like, then check with her bestie and the bestie will tell you what she'll actually like. Girls proposing to girls, you're not that stupid and can subtly say "do you think that's nice?" on a trip out to town. He showed us a picture of his fiancée's engagement ring, rubies and emeralds, and, by god, it was gorgeous.
@@laeichhorn I don’t think so. I’m a girl. And I don’t expect it to be diamond. Pretty much thing it’s an unnecessary waste of money actually. I don’t know if your girl ain’t too serious about surprises and stuff. Just check with her and choose a ring she really likes. She’s gonna wear it for a lifetime.
there’s a higher chance people will think your diamond as either moissanite or cubic zirconia than an actual diamond anyway so all the more reason to get the cheapest route possible
so true. diamonds are not rare, but DeBeers started advertising them as an engagement ring after WW2. before that, any ring would have sufficed. it is a croc. good story to point out to people.
As a girl, honestly dont get a diamond (discuss it tho cus ur SO could be traditional or sum). Id rather you get a stone that you know i like, like one that mstches my eyes or its color i like a lot. As long as its over 150$, its valuable to me and much more sentimental.
For an engagement ring, you couldn't get one that'll stand up to years of daily wear for $150. I don't care about cost but I wouldn't want to replace an engagement ring @@nebelland8355
150 is not unreasonable. She doesn't want a ring pop, or vending machine ring. Spending a little more on something that's supposed to represent a lifelong commitment, shows respect to that commitment and to that person. Yall must not know how much jewelry costs.
The original engagement ring hubby bought had a solitaire. No clue what the carot total was. But shut m at about the c5 year mark, went to a jewler, and had the diamond cut off. Just had a simple white gold band with some carvings. Been married 40 years now. Diamonds are a pain. Had some friends go to down town Los Angeles to the fabric district as they are waking along shopping, a police officer approached them Ave said "ladies, please hide your jewelry, it's so flashy, it's catching the attention of thieves" That's something young brides need to take into consideration. If you're young and broke, you'll be living in lower income areas, and a simple band might be a safer alternative. Maybe add the diamonds as a celebration of an anniversary when living in better areas.
Honestly, the only reason I’d want a diamond ring is because diamonds are so tough. There’s so many other precious and semiprecious stones, but because of their hardness, they can get scratched or chipped and don’t last as long. I’m pretty sure sapphires are nearly as hardy as diamonds, cheaper, and come in loads of colors, so you could also get a white/colorless sapphire engagement ring and no one would know the difference.
My wife's ring has a sapphire that came from Montana from a family that owns the mines and pays people wages for the work. It is far prettier than a diamond, and it is ethically sourced.
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I just found out that diamonds are not actually that rare. To make them rare the providers stop providing the diamonds every once in a while so that the quantity is less than the demand. High demands and supposed low quantity makes them expensive.
I walked into a jewelry store once. I asked for a necklace that cost about $100. He asked about specifics, and I agreed. He brought out a necklace that had a $189.00 sticker on it. I said nothing until he talked himself down to $108.00
This misses the point of buying a ring. It's a luxury item. Spending money on it acts as a proof that you love your significant other so much you're willing to spend stupid amounts of money on them
When my husband was preparing to propose to me, his pastor advised him, "Don't go for size; go for sparkle." This was good advice because I would have hated a big ol' rock sticking off my finger. My husband got me a small diamond that was extremely clear and sparkley, and I am very happy with it!
As a woman I know that the only justified use of diamonds is in cutting hard rock materials. Jewelry wearing is overrated especially that this type of attracting attention is practiced by narcissists to arise jealousy in others narcs.
Lab diamonds are not the same as natural diamonds. Lab diamonds are made in a controlled environment, they are grown with precision and are perfect. Natural diamonds formed randomly and usually have flaws.
Can we finally get our of this old tradition that the looks and price of the ring somehow signifies love and loyalty? Shallow persons will say a person is cheap for not buying an expensive ring or having a fancy wedding. But I much rather save that vanity money so I can buy a nice home and make sure my kids will always have food, warm and whole clothes and good education.
By the end of the 1990’s, De Beers’ market share had fallen from as high as 90% in the 1980’s to less than 60%. Today, De Beers no longer has control of the diamond industry, and for the first time in a century, market supply and demand dynamics, not the De Beers monopoly, drives diamond prices.
Are you kidding? Halving all of your bills is cheaper, not to mention the boon of dual income. I've never been poorer than when I was single in the city.
@@SeniorSundaythen you either have children or divorce, you pick. in your terms, be poor or be poor. Also do you fucking live in Las Vegas working at a McDonald's?
@@SeniorSundayoh and not all wives want to work they want to take care of the family and if that's your reason for divorce your losing custody and going to hell.
Moissanite. It has better fire, more luster, is a 9.5 on the mohs scale, and doesn't come close to the silly mark-up of diamond. If you want a shiny, clear rock-- choose moissanite. If you want a personality, choose literally anything else (above 7 mohs)
You can get a beautiful ring with Moissanite for only a few hundred to 1K dollars (depending on size and metals). The ring is symbolic and means a lot to some people, but they don't actually have to be expensive.
@@mikkelborby People pay more than 1K for purses, custom suits, watches, and new tables/furniture. Those are all things that break or get lost, too. Of course there are other worthwhile things to spend money on, but being able to lose something doesn't mean it's not worthwhile. It's normal to like and want jewelry, and 1K for something you'll spend every day of the rest of your life wearing is really not that much. Also, if you lose it, you'll just get it replaced through insurance. If you don't wear jewelry at all, then sure it's not worth it to you. But if your partner does wear and like jewelry, then you should get them a ring.
@@mikkelborby My ring was free because it was a family heirloom. Having said that, I've spent a few hundred dollars on jewelry before and I don't regret it a bit.
Not to mention that it's physically impossible to distinguish between lab diamonds and real ones and A LOT of "real" diamonds that you might see on sale is actually a lab grown. It's a scam all around
Buy moissinite instead. They look identical to diamonds to the naked eye, actually have a higher refractive index, and are nearly as hard. Way cheaper too.
Buy lab, never moissinite unless you want something that looks fake. This is due to the double refraction, and it’s very noticeable. Looks like costume jewelry
I'm a jewelry salesman, and usually the "real" vs lab grown argument is coming from the customer and not me. I honestly don't care. I just want to help you find something you're happy with, both aesthetically and financially.
This is exactly why my husband bought a .92 lab grown diamond. He was able to spend more money on the clarity and cut because he didn’t worry about the size or name. Videos like these saved him so much money.
Bro, the only diamonds that are actually worth what they cost are the ones that can only be found in one or two places, like how Cognac diamonds are almost exclusively found in the Australian kimberly
I have silver ring. No diamond. To be fair my fiancé financially helped me with my theraphy payments, I can say he's invested with me. But I think it's a cultural difference too.
Diamonds are just western commercials poisoning the minds of everyone. In most Eastern cultures, gold jewelry is the traditional item for engagement, wedding gifts, etc.
This is actually more commonly known among Gen Z, I read an article on this once, can't remember where though, but that's why amongst my generation we prefer coloured gemstones like Rubies, Tanzanite, etc.
My husband really wanted to get me a diamond for my engagement ring. He asked me if I'd prefer "real" or lab-grown. I said definitely lab grown. They're cheaper and more ethical.
Diamonds are a scam, anyways. They were designed from the beginning to be nothing more than a racket. In the end, they're tacky. Actually get rings that are meaningful and symbolize something other than how unoriginal your tastes were. This goes for wedding rings, too. There's so many designs on the market, with much more affordable arrangements, that won't scam you.
why would anyone still buy real diamonds. Someone invented a way to literally make diamonds artificially, and yet we're still mining for diamonds and pricing them like they're from one of Saturn's moons
Good info but the fact that you don’t have a ring on yourself shows me that you don’t actually know. I hate when people talk about things they haven’t actually experienced.
