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Did I make a mistake? New BMW K1600 v New Honda Goldwing 

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Did I make a mistake? New BMW K1600 v New Honda Goldwing: Having ridden these two bikes extensively I feel it's time for a comparison - Spoiler alert: I'm bracing myself for all the claims of bias on this one but to be fair I was faced with this choice myself last year and, well, you may know what I opted for.....ADDENDUM: I said the central locking doesn't lock the panniers and top case, it does....my bad!
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@sqward
@sqward Год назад
My k1600 has central locking for panniers and the top box.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Yes my bad - you are quite correct!
@happmonkeyballs
@happmonkeyballs Год назад
@@TheMissendenFlyer haha. I would have guessed some sort of tech developer or maybe a pilot
@TheJmebe
@TheJmebe Год назад
..not quite, pointless, but similar to softclose doors on BMW (and other makes) doors - virtually pointless and something else that will eventually break, probably in a very unhelpful way
@SlvrBckBlck
@SlvrBckBlck Год назад
I wouldn't say it's pointless. I use mine often when riding. It's better than constantly having to unlock/lock with the physical key. I just hit the button and the fob and done. No different than a car door lock.
@DanielJLopes
@DanielJLopes Год назад
@@SlvrBckBlck Agree, and it's very convenient riding 2 up, I have that on my RT as well - which watching this vid, makes me more certain it is the better bike hehehe
@MrLencar83
@MrLencar83 Год назад
I’ve owned five Goldwings since 2013 and loved all of them. The last was a 2020 DCT Tour. I’ve always lusted after the K1600GT. I never have a pillion as the wife doesn’t ride with me. I was diagnosed with cancer in June of this year and had sold my 2020 Wing and bought a sports car but it seemed my son drove the car more than I did so I sold the car. Just as I was starting my chemotherapy my wife told me to go buy a bike as she knows its my passion and stress reliever. So off I went to satisfy my curiosity and bought a brand new 2022 BMW K1600GT. Both bikes have their virtues. I loved my Goldwings and I truly love the handling and power of the GT. My belief is you can’t go wrong with either bike if you’re wanting a big touring scoot. I don’t find the BMW that hard to move around but I’m also 6’1” and 250lbs so its not an issue moving either bike. I do like the fact that the panniers are removable on the K bike as it makes winter storage much easier for me in the garage. If I had to buy another bike today I don’t honestly know which one I would choose. I do know I’m very happy with the K bike and have always loved my Wings. So there you go. I’m no help at all if you’re in the market. On a positive note my recent CT scan indicated I am currently cancer free. Many more regular tests required in the coming years buy I’m optimistic I have many years more riding ahead of me.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Good news then Len - all the best!
@anthonysilvestri4946
@anthonysilvestri4946 Год назад
Good on ya mate - congrats!
@ViedoHunter416
@ViedoHunter416 Год назад
All the best mate. Love hearing stories from fellow riders
@stephenlakin509
@stephenlakin509 Год назад
Fantastic news, here's to many more years riding ❤
@topeight4662
@topeight4662 Год назад
Lots of love and blessings to you from rider family
@jameshales6958
@jameshales6958 Год назад
At 67 years old, I wanted a bike that was more Cruise-Touring and less Sport-Touring, so I bought a 2023 Goldwing Tour DCT in July, I've have bike my entire life and this is the best MC I've purchased. I love the low CG and DCT.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Me too!
@A_Son_Of_Yahuah
@A_Son_Of_Yahuah 3 месяца назад
I'm 57 and just started to save up for a Honda Goldwing DCT 🏍. It's my dream for now. I gotta keep 🙏🏾ing.
@davidphayman
@davidphayman Год назад
It's a simple enough decision, GW for a more relaxed touring environment and the K16 if you prefer your touring with a sporting bent. Both are incredible bikes to ride, im currently riding a 22 MY K1600GT and absolutely love it.
@coot8985
@coot8985 Год назад
I don't often add comments to youtube vids, but this review is a clinic in how to do a review. I feel you hit so many practical parts of riding/ownership. Also well done on keeping your bias in check towards your own GW. The whole review was as balanced as a GW at highway speed. As someone that is looking to possibly make a move from a touring cruiser to one of these two bikes, this is the most informative review I have seen.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Wow - thank you very much!
@BigDaddySam
@BigDaddySam 9 месяцев назад
I've both MC, a 2018 Goldwing with DCT with an airbag. A 2020 BMW K1600 GTL with the 719 option. Both bikes are wonderful bikes for different reasons. The K1600 is a beast with that 160hp six cylinder engine, which I added a stage 2 kit. Took it to the dyno and got 168mph and still had more to go. The buffering issue on the Beemer is real, my solution was to remove the top case. Completely different MC with the top case removed, the Beemer is more about sport touring. One item which was not mention in the comments was the shift assist on the K1600, a whole completely different animal than the DCT. I smile every time I get off that K1600. Now as far as touring for long distance you can not beat the Goldwing DCT. The comfortability of that Goldwing is unmatched. Once both seats were changed to Russell Day Long seats. I pulled a Bushtec trailer fully loaded to California with that DCT on touring model. I didn't realize the trailer was behind me, unless I looked in the rear view mirror. I love both bikes, one for sport touring and the other for comfort and touring. The goldwing does have the most mileage, just my point of view.😎
@gwilymhowes6422
@gwilymhowes6422 2 месяца назад
I'll certainly try removing the top box. Thanks.
@SsgtHolland
@SsgtHolland Год назад
That Goldwing is a thing of beauty, I love the blue color, but also the look of the engine and the instruments.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Yes me too....
@jamesfisher1827
@jamesfisher1827 Год назад
Andy, great video. Love the editing between bikes, made it very watchable and easier to compare. My take for what it’s worth would be if you’ve come from a sports bike background or performance is all important the K1600 has performance and handling that no other large touring bike can live with, however the Goldwing is the more refined and luxurious bike with the lower centre of gravity, heated pillion backrest, damped pannier opening etc.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
I agree 100%
@SuperDusty111
@SuperDusty111 Год назад
Your review is spot on in all categories. I own both of those bikes and I choose to ride my Goldwing DCT 80% of the time.
@youwhatnow
@youwhatnow Год назад
I love touring solo on my K1600B but for two-up riding I'd pick a full tour Goldwing with DCT. Both superb machines so no bad choice available.
@davidozburn1155
@davidozburn1155 Год назад
One of the biggest maintenance costs on a GW is replacing the air filter. Depending on where you go, it is 700$ to 900$. Was going to do it myself but it is an 8 hour project with hand tools. Got rid of HD and GW because of exhorbitent costs of ownership. Looked into BMW. The R18 for me is more practical. Wait till you have to pay for valve adjustments on the K1600. Love the way both the GW and K1600 handle. Maintenance costs are prohibitive for most people. Just show the invoices to your wife!
@waynebasso3791
@waynebasso3791 8 месяцев назад
There are plenty of You Tube videos showing how to do maintenance on the Goldwing (Cruiseman's Garage, Traxxion Dynamics, Fred Harmon, etc.) Max suggests not changing the air filter when recommended, but doing it when you are doing other maintenance (but to each his own). If you feel confident enough to do your own servicing, you can save thousands of dollars. I have a 2023 Goldwing DCT Tour and have done my own installations on added turn signals, mirrors, backrest, highway boards, dash cameras, power hub, Homelink etc. after watching the videos and following the instructions.
@someoneridesmountainbikes2355
@someoneridesmountainbikes2355 8 месяцев назад
Sounds like a bad engineering design
@keemez
@keemez 6 месяцев назад
Is your own time worth $87.50/hour? (700/8) Do it yourself. It's not that hard- just takes time. BMW maintenance costs far surpass those of the GW.
@marcoluoma3770
@marcoluoma3770 Год назад
Thanks for a good comparison. A point you didn't touch on is dealer experience. As a lifelong Honda guy I was shocked when I took my GS in for service. The service intervals are shorter and exponentially more expensive, e.g., $135 oil change on my Honda vs. $400 (not a typo) at the BMW dealer. (I spent $60 on parts and did it myself.) I bought the BMW only because in '18 the Africa Twin didn't have cruise control. I like the GS but probably won't buy another BMW.
@rayshobbyfarm.1019
@rayshobbyfarm.1019 Год назад
Heard that on another video as well. On the GW it is relatively simple to do own maintenance. The K1600 needs to go into the dealership for computer read outs... Don't know, can someone / owner confirm that ??
@davidwhittaker5587
@davidwhittaker5587 Год назад
I had the choice of either bike a while ago and test drove both and was very impressed by the wing just on its touring capabilities alone the BM was just as comfortable but I thought a lot more sporty in the end I ended up with ……BMW1200RT which for solo touring ticked all the boxes and saved me a few thousand 💷💷. Excellent review love the comparison with the editing
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thank you David - glad you appreciated that edit!
@sdefiel3719
@sdefiel3719 Год назад
heh-heh-hehhehheh ... he said BM ... heh-heh cool S
@State6
@State6 Год назад
Loving the back and forth you did with this video, must have taken some planning. Well done mate!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thanks Matthew - I’m glad you noticed it!
@MarksGarage17
@MarksGarage17 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for another nice review. I have owned both and know first-hand what works best for me......Sitting in my garage is the second Gold Wing I have owned. It is a 2024 Gonda Gold Wing Tour DCT in Pearl White with Black and Red accents. (Just delivered last week). My first was a 2018 Honda Gold Wing Tour DCT in Pearl White. Here are the features that make the Honda Gold Wing a win. 1. DCT Transmission. Amazing technology that even the current Chevrolet Corvette now utilizes! 2.The combined braking system is excellent. 3. Overall controls for managing a ride. This includes the switchgear and radio. 4. The flat six engine is amazing and helps keep the CG low. While the Oil change is a little more detailed with the DCT, I take my time and enjoy the process. 5. Warranty-like the BMW, not many manufacturers provide 3 years as standard. 6. Confidence-I feel great riding this bike...and my wife really enjoys riding with me. Thank you, again. (Mark-from Plymouth, WI)
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 месяцев назад
The new 'Wing is a beast isn't it!
@davidbesant
@davidbesant Год назад
Great video as always. Doubt those roads are natural territory for these bikes, but they certainly test their agility (and yours). As I get older, I feel inclined to go for smaller, lighter bikes. And, as my wife won't get on a bike anymore, I only need 1/10th of the luggage capacity (win win).
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Yes if you’re not needing to haul kit and passengers these bikes make little sense….
@ronfeast932
@ronfeast932 Год назад
Owned both bikes in recent times also RT1250..all too heavy now riding 2022 V-Strom 650 XT ..apart from no shaft drive including 2 up with full luggage an excellent touring machine and I reside in rural Australia. (72y.o.).
@bigmanmoto9897
@bigmanmoto9897 Год назад
I have owned both. As you point out each has its pluses and minuses. If choosing only between these two I would choose the GW based on ease of maintenance/ lower maintenance/ ownership costs (this comment is based on my experience….yours may differ). That said, if I am looking for a true all day comfort bike for me it would be an Indian Pursuit. Good for me out of the box with no aftermarket seat (which I needed on both the K1600 and my GWs).
@mtkoslowski
@mtkoslowski Год назад
I had a Gl1800 Goldwing for 16 years and I loved it. Unfortunately I haven’t ridden the BMW so I find your comparative road test very useful. What I do want to say is how remarkably fortunate you are to be able to enjoy motorcycles in the very beautiful English countryside. We also have aviation in common; I earned my license in 1979 and was a bush pilot flying in Zimbabwe and Mozambique. Cheers!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
That sounds like interesting flying….
@JBond73
@JBond73 Год назад
If I could afford it I’d go for the Honda Goldwing. I have the Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT and love the love. Great review. 👍
@all8849
@all8849 2 месяца назад
My wife and I could not come to an agreement either so she got a Goldwing DCT and I got a K1600 GTL. She's only 5'6" but the low center of gravity makes her feel very confident riding the Goldwing. She loves the DCT transmission and the low growl of the six cylinder engine. I'm so used to using the friction zone at low speed that I have a harder time controling the Goldwing at low speeds. The Goldwing is also more stable at highway speeds, but I preffer The K16 on twisty roads. Both great bikes in their own way.
@PhilC184
@PhilC184 Год назад
Sounds like the choice is Sporty or Comfy (BMW vs Honda) and obviously down to individual preference. Great editing on this one, must have taken forever.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thanks for noticing Phil!
@jaymandelker6632
@jaymandelker6632 6 дней назад
Excellent report and well produced video. I like your video because there was no unnecessary rambling; you spoke rapidly explaining the facts and which features you preferred and why.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 дней назад
Thank you very much!
@douglasfleetney5031
@douglasfleetney5031 Год назад
Not only does the central locking work on my top box and panniers but I also have a courtesy light in the top box. As mine is a 2015 I really don't think they would have deleted that feature. Also on the K1600 you can demount the top box and panniers very easily and have a very large semi-sports bike to really annoy the Sunday Sports Bike Bois....
@schzx14
@schzx14 11 месяцев назад
I know this is an old review but it’s the best review/comparison I’ve seen in a long time. Great job.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 11 месяцев назад
Thank you
@steventhomson8387
@steventhomson8387 Год назад
Both great bikes in my opinion and we are spoilt for choice. On my BMW S1000 R sports I hardly use a lot of the electrotonic equipment and it's getting to the stage where there is far too much information. Better to keep things simple so as we don't get overly distracted with artificial intelligence. I would go with the Goldwing in this instance for the reasons you stated and particularly the top-heavy weight uneven distribution.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Glad we agree!
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma Год назад
Personally, I don't understand why BMW doesn't have a display mode that simulates old-fashioned dials. The TFT certainly looks large enough for it. They could also choose a third mode, having an analog looking speedometer and a bar/graph type rev counter, leaving space for bar/graph type dials for fuel and temperature. I guess it's a case of BMW wanting to have a more unified look for the TFT's on their bike range. The top-heavy nature is a thing you'll get used to pretty quickly in my opinion. It's only a "problem" on very low speeds and with the electric reverse it pretty much becomes a non-issue. As to what MF said about the front feeling somewhat skittish: that's a complaint that has been brought up with big BMW's a lot. What it comes down to is yet another case of getting used to: the front may feel skittish, but as you push the bike harder and harder, you'll notice that the front is actually very planted despite of the feeling. Trust the engineering and the bike will perform as you'd expect. What usually helped with the older bikes was raising the pre-tension on the rear suspension and depending on your weight softening up the front suspension a bit, causing the bike to "stand a bit more on the nose". I don't know if that trick still works with the electronically managed suspension and if not maybe BMW could make the electronic suspension control more adjustable to re-introduce setting up the suspension to a rider's liking. I think for the K1600 BMW made a compromise between having the very planted front of a sports-bike and the less weight on the front for easier maneuvering of a Grand Tourer.
@richardconnoly
@richardconnoly Год назад
Those of us "Mature" riders often discover the best bike (car, truck, boat, aircraft) is the bike where you can get the best service. I have a 2010 GW with tons of modifications. Thanks to the available GW-specific maintenance videos (Fred or Cruseman's) and a shop manual, I can do almost everything myself. Which is very cost-effective in that my bike also comes with an airbag. I also have a 2015 Tiger 800 XCX, and again, thanks to YT (Muddysump) and a shop manual I can also do 90% of the service. Otherwise, the cost of maintenance by the dealerships on these big bikes can be very steep.
@Cerebrum72
@Cerebrum72 Год назад
thanks for your review. good information. I'm a Harley guy, but now I want a proper touring machine. the choice is between BMW K1600 B or Goldwing. Think I'll go for Goldwing now 🙂 thanks
@jftuvell
@jftuvell 6 месяцев назад
Wonderful comparison. I recently purchased a new, ‘23 Gold Wing Tour DCT-which I love. I’m coming off a ‘19 Ducati MultiStrada 1260S with a full touring setup, so the part about the advantages of a low center of gravity really hit the mark for me. Even at well under 600 lbs (versus the GW’s 840-something) the MultiStrada is tough to move around without your heart skipping a beat now and then as that top-biased weight moves around. Uprighting the bike off the kickstand from the saddle takes a concerted effort, and don’t get caught at the wrong angle! With the GW, it’s a relative breeze. Keep the great videos coming!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 месяцев назад
I agree! Cant wait to get back out on my Wing again!
@LivingwithaBMWKGTL
@LivingwithaBMWKGTL Год назад
Having owned my K1600GTLe and using it for exactly what’s it’s meant for I can honestly state that given the option again I would definitely buy my K1600 again. I’ve ridden the GW on an extended time period (3 months) and whilst a great bike I found that it didn’t live up to the BMW. It had lower luggage capacity, lower tank range and a less nimble ride. So again for me the K1600 rules in every sense. And now with the RP6 GT’s the road holding is further enhanced and my love affair with the inline 6 has started again!!!! Damn that K1600 is way too good
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Glad you like it and thanks for watching!
@stephenpotts8170
@stephenpotts8170 Год назад
Hi Andy, was a really good comparison video the way you strung it together was very professional. I love both of these bikes, and I think fundamentally you are right the wing is a classier, and better built bike. But I think the choice may be an age thing, I could see younger riders opting for the more lively K1600. Thank you.
@thesilverfoxtravels6653
@thesilverfoxtravels6653 Год назад
Just on looks alone I’d have the Goldwing. It just looks so much better. Excellent review as always. 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thank you and of course I agree!
@lauriebloggs8391
@lauriebloggs8391 Год назад
Yup, me too........
@John64125
@John64125 8 дней назад
When I bought my new RT I released the side pannier and it shot down so fast it tore the string thing off. The lack of damping is a bit crap and, as I found out, isn’t very robust. To offset that you can get two helmets in the top box and helmets fit in both side panniers. They are well designed but side panniers should be damped.
@howierides
@howierides Год назад
I enjoyed watching your spot-on review of the K1600 and Goldwing. I bought the 2021 DCT Goldwing Tour after riding both bikes. If you make another touring bike comparison I'd like to watch your 2022 Goldwing compared to the 2023 Indian Pursuit Dark Horse.
@luckyphil6486
@luckyphil6486 Год назад
Hi Andy . Not spoken for a while but totally agree with your review . I’m only a small chap and in my second wing also ( non tour) but find with the weight being low it gives you more confidence. Hope also your still flying? I refuel commercial airlines at Manchester . My friend many years ago started with his ppl and now is a captain based oversea with a top airline . Keep up the good work
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Hi Phil - good to hear from you again, and yes, I’m still flying….roll on summer!
@luckyphil6486
@luckyphil6486 Год назад
@@TheMissendenFlyer Hi Andy. Glad to hear it. I used to go up with my friend many years ago in the light aircraft . I covered the fuel and he got his hours in. Like I said he’s a captain now out in the Middle East . He’s done really well. Hope you have a trip planned on the GW this year with your good lady? I bought my Wing in Oct but would you believe I’ve not been on it yet lol. After I took delivery on it I took poorly so only just getting over it. Anyway got a few small trips planned this year including visiting my aunts in Bouremouth. Have a great weekend
@leveneziadvm
@leveneziadvm Год назад
It would be very difficult for me to do an objective assessment of both bikes in a side-by-side comparison if I already owned one of them. I definitely think it comes down to personal preference!! The sides bags on the K1600 come off very easily to be transported into a motel room at the end of the day.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Indeed - I didn’t say this was objective! Just my view in comparing the two…
@robertwhitemoto
@robertwhitemoto Год назад
As a brand new 2023 Goldwing owner (love your blue color and wish it had been available in the states for 23)... I might be a bit biased as well :) Cheers from Texas.
@dennisherreid5393
@dennisherreid5393 Год назад
Cost of ownership on the GW will be a fraction of that on the K bike as miles add up. Love the blue!
@deandoucette7206
@deandoucette7206 Год назад
I have owned a '07 K1200GT, a '06 K1200S, and now a '17 K1600GT. All 3 bikes have been very reliable. Only need tires and oil changes. I paid $10K less for my '17 K1600GT (fully loaded with all options and all accessories) than the Honda dealer wanted for a '18 Goldwing. That extra $10K buys many sets of tires.
@mikestainsby4738
@mikestainsby4738 Год назад
I'm glad you ended with a comment that you were biased as the Goldwing was yours. It is a bit of an expensive mistake to wish you'd bought the other bike! I am biased too because I have had 5 K1600's. Just for balance here are a few points: The cases are all removable and are bigger than the GW a big plus on a tour in my opinion. The K1600 is much more sporty in what it does, I don't think they really compete well head to head, I have ridden the new Wing and it felt pretty pedestrian by comparison. Sports mode on the Wing was more of a volume button with little effect on pick up, I left it in normal mode. I agree with you entirely on fit and finish the Japanese have that nailed! Less so declaing the Honda more comfortable for a pillion. They appeal to entirely different people but seem to look vaguely similar if you squint (a lot)
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thanks for the feedback - clearly i disagree but i appreciate you taking the time to write and respect your opinion!
@pedromiguelareias
@pedromiguelareias Год назад
For me and other old folks, between the two, we'd pick the intermediate R1250RT 🙂
@michelod.i.y.5202
@michelod.i.y.5202 Год назад
Perhaps a similarly aged 1250rt and honda st1300 would be a good comparison
@martiniv8924
@martiniv8924 Год назад
Funny you say that Pedro, I have a 1200RT 😉👌🏻😎
@martiniv8924
@martiniv8924 Год назад
@@michelod.i.y.5202 good choice, good comparison 👌🏻😎
@michelod.i.y.5202
@michelod.i.y.5202 Год назад
@@martiniv8924 nice, I'm getting scared of all the new stuff, so much tech, sensors etc, if they go wrong where do you start.
@dseagull3567
@dseagull3567 Год назад
Yes, it's RT for me. At 5'8" 155# I can't deal with the weight of either of these bikes.
@whatsupeh1
@whatsupeh1 Год назад
I think you’re bang on! I’ve never ridden the BMW, but I think I would agree with your assessment. The extra horsepower would be fun, but unnecessary. I really like my Wing. I only wish it was 2” lower, but I’m not willing to sacrifice ride to lower it. I can live with not being able to plant both feet flat at a stop.
@MikeTheBike58
@MikeTheBike58 Год назад
Never understood why some motorcyclists are obsessed with having two feet down. You just need to look at Jocelin Snow,to realise how pathetic their rider must have two feet down BS is.
@whatsupeh1
@whatsupeh1 Год назад
@@MikeTheBike58; It sure helps on a heavy motorcycle, two up, at a stop, especially in a strong crosswind. Or in loose gravel. But those incidents are few in the grand scheme of things. I deal with it.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
I defo feel more confident if I can’t plant both feet down - luckily on the Gold Wing I can!
@whatsupeh1
@whatsupeh1 Год назад
@@TheMissendenFlyer At 5’8”, I’m on the balls of me feet, unless I stand up. But it’s fine, most of the time. I think if I just narrowed the seat a bit, I would be able to flat foot it.
@laikatravels
@laikatravels Год назад
I do like a good comparison video 👍. I’d choose the Honda as well. I owned an original 1975 GL1000 K0 naked, for 8 years and loved it. Same sort of handling mind, you had to muscle it round the corners compared to other more ‘top heavy’ bikes.
@lauriebloggs8391
@lauriebloggs8391 Год назад
I was just thinking how amazing they were when introduced!
@nigelmitchell4855
@nigelmitchell4855 Год назад
On my GTLE, the central locking locked every thing with a lock on it. Having owned both bikes, my wife preferred the wing but I preferred the BMW. We both now prefer the Spyder... Another good video, well done.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@bgorrell
@bgorrell Год назад
I owned a 2006 Goldwing Airbag model for many years, and for several years had it along with a 2014 K1600GT. I loved them both - the K1600GT felt so much lighter than the Wing when I would switch. Today I still have the K1600GT and now a 2023 Ducati V4S - NOW when I go back and forth I can't believe how heavy the K1600GT feels! Perspective lol - love all your videos - fantastic work
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thank you Brian - of course the Gold Wing had a complete redesign in 2018 and is now a somewhat smaller bike than your old 2006 model….
@orvalstuckemeyer127
@orvalstuckemeyer127 Год назад
The central locking on the K1600 most certainly does lock/unlock the side panniers and top box, along with the lower fairing storage pockets and the fuel filler door.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Yes my bad - hence the earlier pinned comment
@orvalstuckemeyer127
@orvalstuckemeyer127 Год назад
@@TheMissendenFlyer It ok, love your videos and wit. Been a fan for years.
@johnalbone3372
@johnalbone3372 Год назад
Both are great in their own way but both too big and heavy for me and too large for my single garage size workshop so it's an R1250RS for me Great review and keep them coming
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Fair enough!
@ridicule35
@ridicule35 Год назад
A few comments. I was lucky enough to own two k16’s over 5 years and 75000km, trips over European continent: 1) your ride comparison in reference to wind buffeting. You tested the Goldwing with screen slightly up and the k16 with screen fully flat/closed down. I am 1,87m and use a Schuberth C3 Pro helmet. I feel zero buffeting. If you short you may feel buffeting or you need to raise the screen to alter the turbulence. It is electrically adjusting so touch the button and find what position suits you. 2) The k16 is a GT/Sport touring bike. It is no full dresser Harley or Japanese tank. I’ve ridden the Alpes, Pyrenees, Austrian passes including Grossglockner. The K16 will embarrass many a sport bike if you are competent in the saddle. I am very competent having done 5 years of track days on a Kawasaki zx10r primarily at Le Mans which is just 150km from my home. 3) If you want a purely touring 2up configuration, the Goldwing is your bike. If you want 2up touring but want to go balls to the wall with or without the Mrs on the back, loaded or unloaded, the k16 is the only choice. 4) In terms of switch gear, the BMW wizz wheel is very intuitive and just very well integrated with the awesome TFT screen. My only gripe is that at night, none of the BMW switch gear on the handle bars are retro lit. No issue for basic indicator/horn. For the rest, you see nothing. 5) If BMW want to transform a great bike into an epic bike, they should offer the k16 with a dct option. This will make it more cruise/tour friendly. That said, once in 6th gear from 50km/h (no lugging/no strain) it accelerates elastically with a very flat torque curve. In the end, unless you in city traffic, from 6th on, it’s like a scooter: just use the accelerator! 6) Concerning the pillion comfort, the K16 GTL does come with topbox arm rests that allow the pillion full locked in comfort. 7) Concerning luggage capacity, this quite an irritation. Firstly these are motorcycles not a family station wagon, RCV or holiday caravan. 2up each person gets a panier each. The topbox is for tech bits, lunch items, temporary storage. Undies, three t shirts, socks, casual sandals, jeans, shorts. These are 30k€ bikes. If you spending 30k€ on a bike you can pay for hotel stays on trips. You can do laundry in the evening to stay clean with fresh clothes. You don’t need to cart your dressing from home on the bike. I truly don’t get people who go on bikes but behave like they in a car! Why not just take your Volvo station wagon and half the house if you must? 😅 8) 2up riding is overrated. You cannot truly enjoy a twisty road with the pillion either being scared or feeling uncomfortable or the weight affecting how you pilot the bike. I think motorcycling is best enjoyed with each person on their own bike, riding however it pleases them. Then each has two paniers and a top box if they want to take the house, dog, mother in law with. 😅
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thanks for that Vernon - enjoyed reading your detailed feedback and agree with many of the points you make….
@SouthWest-jj8yu
@SouthWest-jj8yu Год назад
I’ve had lots of Hondas over the years but last ten years or so have been exclusively BMW. That being said if I was in the market for a big tourer and I would probably go for the Goldwing, love the engine the low down weight and the DCT, expensive but a cracking bike👍
@AstraeaProductions
@AstraeaProductions 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for this, the switch from one bike to the other with an instant comparison was amazing, made for an easier and tidier comparison - all round great video 🙏🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 11 месяцев назад
Glad it helped!
@Mototherapy_Michio
@Mototherapy_Michio Год назад
Great comparison 👍 Haven’t tried the Goldwing (not that easy to find a dealer with that bike available for test drives). I loved the K1600, and was surprised by the overall smoothness. And found it not that hard to move around (even compared to my 1250GSA). And the K1600 I tried had the central locking.
@johninYVR
@johninYVR Год назад
I had a K1600 for the past few years and 3 days ago just took delivery of a 2023 Goldwing DCT. Here's why: Your video does a very good job comparing the bikes. As you say both are excellent and both have some advantages over the other. If I were an always-solo rider then the power of the K1600 might give that bike the edge. However my wife was with me for 85% of the time I put 300 K on a previous goldwing but less than one quarter of the milage I put on the K1600. When I was thinking of getting a new 2023 bike my wife was excited when I said I'm considering going back to Honda. She claims that the backseat on the K1600 has a better view but has a bit more wind buffeting than the Goldwing. She also said that the Goldwing is by far the more comfortable. So, as they say 'Happy wife: Happy life' and a comfortable wife is a happy wife so I'm now back to Honda.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
It was my Mrs that got me into Gold WIng ownership too - brilliant machine for touring as a couple....
@jwebster5840
@jwebster5840 5 месяцев назад
I have a K1600GT (not a GTL) and purchased a colour matched BMW top box for the K1600. I had the techs match the lock tumbler on the top box with the locks on the panniers and all work with central locking. I’m thinking you may need to let the dealer know this needs attention when you return the bike. Hope that helps!
@Kushmosha
@Kushmosha Год назад
Don’t forget the reliability definitely, the Goldwing wins supremely
@phil6146
@phil6146 8 месяцев назад
No not really. I love the Goldwing and yes it is reliable, but so is the K1600. I have had a GW and now own a high mileage BMW. It feels like it’s still brand new. I’d call it a tie, both are built really well.
@gwilymhowes6422
@gwilymhowes6422 2 месяца назад
@@Kushmosha do you say this based on facts, or is it just your perception. I've had 11 BMWs to date, including 2 1600s, and all super reliable. So I'd be keen to hear why you believe they are not reliable.
@hughess004
@hughess004 Год назад
One word in your review made my mind up for me. "Agile" I'm 65 and coming off a Multistrada, I still want my touring bike to be able to carve mtn roads, be used in town daily and what I'm increasingly hearing is that this is NOT the Goldwings forte. Cross country on a highway, nothing better than a GW, but if you still want your motorcycle to feel like a motorcycle I'm thinking its the GT. Thanks again for your continued high quality reviews.
@klapphelmfahrer4148
@klapphelmfahrer4148 Год назад
Two bikes that I would never buy because of the price, nonetheless, it is important to know which I would take if I could. I prefer the Gold Wing, Honda have managed to turn the Gold Wing into a Brand in its own, almost iconic. Very interesting review.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Cheers!
@3countiesmotorcycletrainin787
A major issue I found when I owned the Goldwing was not being able to remove the panniers. When touring being able to take a loaded pannier into accomodation was much easier than unpacking pannier bags which wasted a lot of the limited pannier space.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Yes true - we find packing in packing cubes works well...
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager Год назад
I always buy case liners for my touring bikes. Then just open the case, remove the liner and carry it into the hotel. Much lighter and easier to carry than a hard case covered in dirt and rain.
@johnalleman1134
@johnalleman1134 Год назад
Gold wing 100% 👍🏻 I have to agree on the excellent editing, which allows a direct comparison. I imagine that was more time consuming to produce, so thanks for doing that!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it! …and yes a tricky edit that!
@reggoldsmith4788
@reggoldsmith4788 Год назад
The K1600 does in fact have a lockable top box and panniers, and from the video, I can see that the interior light on the top box was not illuminated, which means that the cable was not connected, It is the same set up with the RT which I ride
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Yes - hence the earlier pinned comment
@pajownik
@pajownik Год назад
While I would buy neither of these bikes, I'm sure I'd immensely enjoy a long trip on either. People who are looking to buy a tourer like this, have hard choices ro make. Good video as always. P.S. Goldwing is a legendary name. Everyone knows it. K (something something), not so much. 😂
@philipmicans6123
@philipmicans6123 Месяц назад
I’ve had a K1600GT and now I have a GL1800C (okay, same same but different). Basically for cruising and touring choose the GL, if you do a lot of spirited riding choose the K. I do believe the K would be more expensive to service and it will get through more tyres. I felt the K brakes were better.
@lyndonohue3350
@lyndonohue3350 Год назад
Objectively, the K1600 has several advantages that would steer me in it's direction. More luggage capacity (removable), more range, more powerful and charismatic engine, and it is more agile with more ground clearance for cornering.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Fair enough....
@cyclotronbxl
@cyclotronbxl Год назад
That's exactly why I bought the K 1600, either if I prefer the design of the Goldwing. Also, I'm one of the rarest person who hate the DCT gearbox 🤷🏻‍♂
@droommotor
@droommotor Год назад
Hi, I just wanted to tell you that I really love your channel you are geniuinely one of the inspirations for my own channel. I have been following you for a while right now (with my other account) and you are one of the reasons I have started to create content myself. it is a life goal of me to make this my full time job. Thanks Andy!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Great plan! Good luck with it....
@johnlenart597
@johnlenart597 Год назад
I agree with your choice of the GW. But being almost 70, both are too big and heavy. A curse of father time. My RS, R9T, and most recent G310gs are are much lighter. I've always preferred lighter and sportier. A Ducati would be my next choice. If I had a pillion she would have to ride her own bike. Too old to change!! LOL. 👍👍🏍🏍🏍🙋‍♂️
@nr3157
@nr3157 Год назад
The 2023 Ducati Diavel V4 is incredibly light. I'm trying to pick between this bike and the 2023 GW DCT the one without the top case. The weight is not a problem for me because the bike has reverse and everyone says it feels light on the road.
@creedm3040
@creedm3040 Год назад
They are both beautiful bikes for sure. The engine on the BMW tips the scales for me. The sound is amazing.I am not a fan of DCT, I like to feel I am part of the bike. If I did purchase the BMW I wouldn’t get black. I don’t think the black sets it off very well. The white with the brown or natural leather seat is absolutely gorgeous. Best
@creedm3040
@creedm3040 Год назад
I looked and the white isn’t available on the K1600. It is the RT which comes in that color. And it is beautiful. Hey-ho. Any any rate I will be keeping my GS for a very long time. It is the perfect motorcycle for me . Best!
@mmorlan1481
@mmorlan1481 Год назад
The continuity of your conversation and commentary as you seemingly "magically" switch from bike to bike is to me , a vlogging equivalent of a "feat of engineering" Great work. thank you Andy . For what my opinion is worth, Honda all day long.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
So glad you noticed that M! It’s actually quite difficult to do!
@mmorlan1481
@mmorlan1481 Год назад
I could well imagine. I can tell you though that from my perspective as a viewer , it makes for an excellent , professional production and valuable comparison.
@bradleyland
@bradleyland Год назад
Fantastic review and I fully agree with the K1600 handling comments around the 8:30 mark. I just did a BMW demo day over here in South Florida where I went directly from an S1000RR to a K1600GTL. Quite the contrast! Dare I say the S1000RR actually felt a bit less skittish. I know that's probably going to attract a lot of scoffs of disbelief, but on a windy day, the top case on the big bike combined with the very nimble steering had the bike feeling positively squirrelly. BMW have tuned the hell out of the steering and geometry on the K1600 bikes to make them feel incredibly sporty in spite of their size, but as a consequence they can feel a bit nervous for such a hulking monster of a motorcycle. Ultimately, I came away from the K1600 (I rode both the GTL and the B) incredibly impressed and actually wanting one. I went to the even interested in the S1000R to compliment my R1250GS, but I left dreaming about the K16000 bikes. That engine and transmission combo might be the pinnacle of performance touring. I'm afraid we will never see another like it as the sun sets on the ICE.
@grantkokich6906
@grantkokich6906 Год назад
Both nice bikes. Very good tourers . As you said just depends what the buyer prefers.
@julienchampagne110
@julienchampagne110 Год назад
Dear Andy, I actually bought mine after your review of your first GW, the one you bought following the test. Happy to see you love the 22 as much I do mine. One killing feature for me is CarPlay you did not note. Thank you very much for your reviews. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Yes I should have mentioned that - it can be a faff to get it too reliably work but I know it's a feture many people really value...
@davidlutton4560
@davidlutton4560 Год назад
Great unbaised comparison review TMF. Given the target market that both of these bikes are aimed at, I was surprised at the variances in such simple things as pannier build quality and basic manhandling. Although a 'Honda man' for many years, I tried not to let that influence my thoughts whilst watching your review, but I have to say that despite BMW's superior horse power and the presence/smoothness of its in-line 6, the Goldwing is, by far, the much superior machine. Thanks for the review.
@deandoucette7206
@deandoucette7206 Год назад
The reviewer's and your bias come through. Ride both bikes hard and then we'll talk.
@mikemerrill175
@mikemerrill175 Год назад
Depends on how fast you want to get there
@andycoley3731
@andycoley3731 Год назад
As with most things we have to make compromises. For more spirited riding the Goldwing doesn't enter the conversation in my view. So things like panniers not having soft closures and being a little more difficult to push around the garage is a compromise I am happy to put up with. Keep the great content coming Andy
@68orangecrate26
@68orangecrate26 Год назад
I’d never own either bike. But, outstanding review, as usual. Fun to watch…
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Fair enough!
@gavd6726
@gavd6726 Год назад
The "Lugging about test" summed it up for me with these bikes. Just far too big for a lot of people to manoeuvre around at standstill. As soon as your motorbike has a reverse gear, surely that states it's too big?! Just think there's plenty of bikes that will do everything these bikes do-and more! Still-each to their own I guess. A great video as usual Andy....great editing comparing the two. 👍🏼
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thanks!
@yorkshireperson
@yorkshireperson Год назад
I agree, good luck to people who feel they need this size and can manage it, but for me it's only a matter of time before not being able to wheel the bike around easily becomes a liability.
@gavd6726
@gavd6726 Год назад
@@yorkshireperson Yorkshire. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@3kdn
@3kdn Год назад
A very honest and fair comparison. I wonder what the weight and handling would be like for a electric version, if even possible in a practical and end user sense.
@mybikegarage1040
@mybikegarage1040 Год назад
Great review but fear of riding with a passenger is not OK for a review, you need to ride it two up. The Wing is easier for the same reason the RT is easier, the engine configuration. The laid dow cylinder config gives the RT and Wing an advantage. Making both easier to live with. Tire changes on the Wing are a disaster. Better call road service. Not so the BMW.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@julianpavitt4926
@julianpavitt4926 Год назад
Thanks for these, really good review as ever. Just wondering about service costs, would that be something you could consider adding to the comparison? I’m sure both companies charge a premium, but I’d be interested in your opinion on both?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Great suggestion!
@markaltosmith7871
@markaltosmith7871 3 месяца назад
I think when reviewing these types of bikes, its important to get the view of the pillion, because they are built for the comfort of two on a long journey.
@crumblymal8479
@crumblymal8479 Год назад
Well Andy I have to say in my opinion the Honda would be my choice all day long both in looks and practicality 😉👍
@jeffreyscott4564
@jeffreyscott4564 26 дней назад
I always value your honest reviews and opinion on motorbikes. Great content.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 26 дней назад
Glad you like them!
@Mr53T
@Mr53T Год назад
One thing that you failed to mention is the reliability factor. Given the gearbox issues with past K1600 models, I think the Honda would be streets ahead, looks much more premium to me too!
@abazdarhon
@abazdarhon Год назад
2:55 BMW still has issue with pulling to left. All gtl e has central locking all panniers and top box as standard. And I can easily put two full size helmets on top box with some light jacket. What I don’t like in top box is not stable/firm connection to frame. My wife complain that is move on each bump. On my old Yamaha xv1900 top box was stable like rock. And yes all the plastic bits on BMW look like and feel like cheap crap. But it got power and is ok for trips to Croatia from Scotland.
@happmonkeyballs
@happmonkeyballs Год назад
Sorry I have to ask.... what do you do for a living?
@graemeshaw9716
@graemeshaw9716 Год назад
Bank robber🤣
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Mostly make RU-vid videos….
@equaliser2265
@equaliser2265 Год назад
This.
@thor8640
@thor8640 Год назад
I think BMW screwed up with the TFT, it looks like the afterthought that it is. What BMW should have done is redesign the front fairing to integrate the TFT and add adaptive cruise control as well as blind spot detection. ACC and BSD are a MUST on such premium couches these days.
@howardmann5634
@howardmann5634 Год назад
Honda wipes the floor with the bmw
@WyreForestBiker
@WyreForestBiker Год назад
Totally agree, in terms of quality and reliability its not a contest .
@marke1761
@marke1761 3 месяца назад
Love this review and comparison. Ive ridden super sports my entire life save for a few naked sports. But now my wife and I want to do cross country tours and my S1000RR just is not going to cut it. Im a little partial to BMW, but after a few reviews and the fact I grew up around Goldwings. Ive put a deposit on a 24 DCT. We're very excited to get this bike and seeing more states rather than just local city riding. Thanks for a well rounded review.
@tonydenial1485
@tonydenial1485 Год назад
Hello Andy, Tony in Alicante here, re; your observation on speed of steering, according to your comment you didn't mention the GL has an 18" front wheel and a 130 section tyre so without doubt it will steer slower than the BM's 17" 120 section tyre, but I would guess you already knew that, great vid 👍 keep on keeping on ✌️
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Good point! I perhaps should have mentioned that….
@newarknomad1154
@newarknomad1154 Год назад
Hi Andy. I would suggest you try aK1600 get. Different in its seating position and feel to the gtl. Both these machines are the pinnacle of cruising comfort. Even at this level, thank goodness we have a choice. For me , like many others, it’s a choice we’d gladly make given the money to spend. Thanks for the excellent content.
@74Reverend
@74Reverend 5 месяцев назад
Both motorcycles are absolutely awesome! For me personally, GTL is my bike, I just purchased a brand new 2023 GTL. I have been riding super sport for a long time. In 2015 I bought Triumph Trophy SE sport touting and fell in love with it. While Goldwing is the epitome of relaxed cruising and touring, GTL was the most obvious choice for me, it is a great tourer but it also is a great sport bike. You can certainly lean and corner more aggressively than the GW and the GTL is simply amazing. I absolutely love my GTL and for me, it was an easy decision.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад
Enjoy!
@stevewalters6403
@stevewalters6403 9 месяцев назад
Both great bikes. My concern with the BMW is reliability. As a brand, BMW usually is near the bottom of reliability surveys while the Japanese bikes are at the top. Also, I prefer to do all maintenance and repairs myself. Japanese bikes seem to be better suited for someone who does their own maintenance and repairs while BMW often requires dealer only tools and technology fixes. I ride with a group of guys, several of which ride the GS and they regularly complain about having to take their bikes to the dealer for diagnostic analysis and repairs. BMW also seems to have a high number of recalls, more than I would expect from a premium brand.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 месяцев назад
In that case get the Honda!
@starlordstarlordman8489
@starlordstarlordman8489 Год назад
I’ve got a Himalayan and don’t intend to get a Goldwing or a BMW 1600 anytime soon that said, I thought that I would watch this for just a minute and move to something else. Well you captured my attention and I watched the whole video. It was very interesting. I appreciate all the time you took to explain all the details. Keep up the good work.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Glad you stayed!
@bobdumbell
@bobdumbell 2 месяца назад
Cracking review buddy, I currently tour on our r1200rt with my wife, but she struggles getting on and off! Looking for something different and these two are on our radar along with an Indian Challenger or chieftain. I'm also 5'8" and your points on top heaviness' has steered me away from the BMW. Think I need a test ride on the Gold wing! Thanks again.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 месяца назад
You’ll love it!
@-C.T.-
@-C.T.- 11 месяцев назад
Goldwing for the win! I've owned both and the Wing checks all the boxes and has that legendary Honda quality and reliability. ❤
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 11 месяцев назад
Couldn't agree more!
@jcur3118
@jcur3118 6 месяцев назад
It is really quite the quandary. I have both. Both are 2018. They both have their strong and weak points. The Honda is more of a straight line bike but it turns nicely enough though it's too easy to scrape the pegs and that bothers me. The K bike likes the turns and inspires confidence. The wing is definitely more stable in crosswinds and head winds and will cruise at any speed nary a care. Both engines are great but I like the super smooth feel and sound of the Beemer. The Honda has an annoying drone cruising at any speed, especially hwy speeds where the K is just happy at any speed in it's sound and you forgot you're taching higher. The Honda finally got some serious engine upgrades and multi valves. It's about time and the company didn't scrimp on that. I'm scared to run in sport mode with the DCT. It's got more punch than I would ever need and sometimes want. The BMW has such friendly torque across the band and I love the ability to modulate power and friction zone with the clutch. I'd trade a little of the Honda stabiltiy for the nimble feel of the K but boy it isn't easy. They are both fantastic bikes but the larger fuel capacity and the feel of the K wins me over. The car magazine guys might say there are no losers here. Both are bikes you'd be happy with but the K wins by a slight bit and that's only this rider's preference. You can go anywhere and spend a lot of time on either. They are just that good. And to me that's the bottom line. Cheers to Honda for producing a a great bike and a radical change from the previous generation. Kudos to BMW for a real good thing. See, I told you they are both winners.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the feedback! For me the way the bikes carry their weight is high on the importance list and that’s where the Honda wins….plus the brilliant creep modes that make living with it in England (small roads!) easier…
@donphobos
@donphobos 6 месяцев назад
Love the noise of the Honda on overrun, engine break and part load. Amazing machine. I would probably take the "manual" version, since I am not fully normal :-)
@michaelpalmer5914
@michaelpalmer5914 11 дней назад
Nice to have a balanced and well presented review. Some on RU-vid are so "up" themselves........but this chap I like!!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 10 дней назад
I appreciate that!
@maciejbrozek4666
@maciejbrozek4666 Год назад
I've ridden both and owned GL. They seem to be comparable, however, they are completely different bikes. GL is a typical cruiser-touring bike with fantastic low and high speed handling, super comfy position and unbelievable manoeuvrability for this size. It can be fast but it is designed for riders preferring more relaxed and easy riding. BMW is for someone who, for any reason, cannot or doesn't want to ride a sport bike. It provides a remarkable amount of space (for those who are 6.6ft. or 2m tall) but the most thrilling part is the engine. It is a rocket. The dynamics of this bike are difficult to imagine until you ride it. It is lightning fast for this size and weight. All in all they are both top bikes which are addressed to different groups of riders. If you consider any of them, take each of them for few hours or a day from a dealer, spend some time in the seat on different roads and make a decision. Good thing is to have the test rides in short period of time so you can spot all the differences.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Indeed.....
@ES44AC-2
@ES44AC-2 Год назад
You done a great review! I think if you want a sport bike feel = K1600. If you have a wife and you take long tours 2 up = Goldwing. Both are beautiful in my opinion. Probably cheaper over time to own a Goldwing if you keep them a long time.
@UncleWally3
@UncleWally3 Год назад
Random comment: I’ve long been an admirer of how The Masters is covered; the analysis is calm, precise and inviting. Same goes for TMF’s delivery.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Thank you!
@cookiedog1878
@cookiedog1878 Год назад
Great review. I’ve owned the K1600GT and the K1600 Grand America. I loved both bikes; just can’t beat that 1600 engine. Older now with arthritis in my left hand. Very painful most days to operate a clutch lever. Didn’t want to stop riding so I bought a Goldwing Tour DCT. Outstanding bike. The wife likes to ride as passenger on the Goldwing best. Honestly I prefer the K1600s. They are top heavy and a bit more difficult to maneuver at slow speeds in car parks, but that K1600 engine is exhilarating. Both have their +\-. Anybody touring enthusiast would not be disappointed with either.
@jonathanouellet713
@jonathanouellet713 Год назад
Thx for this video! Really helpful. I'm looking to trade my BMW '19 R1250RT for something more comfortable for my two-up riding with my Wife. I was one of those with judgements towards Goldwing. But after watching your video's. You converted me... my next bike will be Goldwing!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад
Good call!
@pascalmonier4642
@pascalmonier4642 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this review and have to admit that like you, I am a Goldwing guy. On your review, the K16 panier reminded me of the Givi paniers I had on my Honda NC750X CDT.
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