Did Midseason Change ANYTHING About Tanks In Overwatch 2? 

Tank WILL NOT be “fixed” until counterswapping is fixed and this patch did nothing for that

Win one team fight and already at enemy spawn? Welcome to Colosseo

“The kiri did understand the assignment” idk why I find that so funny lol

it's changed... for the worse. now instead of targets like tracer and reaper and hog being issues (heroes that tanks can often get close to, and want to be close anyway), you've got targets like junkrat and pharah and widow (heroes that tanks have trouble fighting already). It feels like you melt so much faster to so many more heroes.

I'm also noticing that I somehow have to turtle even harder as Rein. I'm essentially just a mobile shield for my team at this point. If I don't get insta-nuked diving in, its either gonna yield in a pin, or a canceled charge to b-hop backwards w shield.

Zarya and JQ feel better to play for sure, because they have smaller hitboxes, the armor change didn't affect them, and they got a headshot damage reduction. Not to mention just the straight QoL buffs they got to their respective kits. Otherwise, still too early to tell with most of the other tanks I feel.

this was exactly how I expected it would be. You explode slightly less or the same depending on who they play. However most of that is because of headshot reduction. Realistically they need to give tanks special armor that works the opposite to this armor does where burst damage is bad but sustained damage is good. Like every bullet decreases the damage reduction from 50% to 0 or something like that, tweak the numbers a little.

flats: op passive kicking in! zen: am i joke to you?

Mauga’s weakness is that he’s so gigantic that if you stop healing him for a single millisecond he just falls over and dies. You have to just pump him with heals so if a tracer goes into your backline and kills the supports, mauga instantly explodes

1:55 - 2:00 is literally the tank experience

Rein has a healthbar? 😮 This is first I’m hearing about, usually you spontaneously explode after a grain of sand touches you.

Counterswitching is still a problem. So its still isnt fixed

2:38 flats reaction times on counter chargers are crazy

something I've noticed: when you play support, youre pretty much always gonna get the endorsement. ive had games where i do awful and my team still endorses. meanwhile, i que tank and fight for my absolute life to carry this team. but not a single endorsement :(

That Ram spot sounds fun to use. I'm yoinking that

Its okay.. we will be "so back" next patch

This patch i played only 5 or 6 games and rein felt so much worse u have to not only deal with mauga but ram got a buff the tracer dmg nerf on rein barley has a impact Other then rein seems okay

2:46 BIG SLAM!!!

This patch finally made me quit playing tank. In some cases I feel more explody. And in others it feels the same. Buffing the DPS passive back to 20% just makes things miserable Edit: since this comment has gotten more interactions than anticipated, I want to clarify a few of my thoughts on the matter and some context. I am a plat 4 tank currently and peaked diamond 5 in season 8 (I did not play mauga that much, but some sr is from that). I main Reinhardt and Winston primarily, and am decent at all the other tanks excluding Doomfist & Ball. The reason I dislike this patch is that it made heroes that take some high execution harder to play, such as tracer, genji, and torbjorn to a lesser extent. While increasing the value the already meta heroes had. Widow, soujorn, and Cassidy are much less impacted by the armor change, and actually benefit. The headshot damage reduction is nice and all, but only reducing a flat amount of damage coming in means that things like soujorn rail, Cassidy right clicks, helix rockets, and widow shots are doing MORE damage than they used to. Rein has near zero counter play against those heroes, even less on maps like Havana, Circuit Royale, and Colleseo. That is my issue with the change more or less.

Tank can still feel like a giant target for anti, sleep, hack, discord. But I did feel like I survived longer at least

I'm just gonna say that rein feels worse imo.

0:10 man that shield really snapped like a toothpick

Flats flaming that iPad kid made my day

4:30 He did his chores LMAOO

Maybe a hot take. Tank still suffers the same even after the change, thus i think they should have a 'last stand passive' where they get damage reduction(50%?) when under a certain threshold of health(20%? 10%?). Helps them live a bit longer when it matters. Note idk the exact values nor way to test this out myself other than making it in workshop and community test ot( that may be a good idea). Just a thought

3:55 i heard tank kb nerfs mean zarya can't grenade boop herself as high anymore lol

4:27 nah this part is so good omg

Alright, the rein play was godly

That was one of the most satisfying shatters I have ever seen

3:53 That change to the Tank passive, effects zarya right_click-hops

the armor damage only really effects rapid fire and shotgun shots, so it makes enemies like reaper, sombra, tracer, etc worse against tanks, but high damage heros get mega buffed as the previous 30% damage penalty is now only -5 damage sigma also got mega buffed for his ult not requiring any sort of line of sight, so he can grab people from another dimension, indoors, or across 10 walls

In the games I’ve played since the patch, you die slightly slower with the 25% headshot damage reduction, but overall it feels about the same especially if you’re playing a tank with armor. I’ve noticed tanks without armor like Roadhog, Junker Queen, Sigma, and Zarya are much better since armor is borderline useless now.

Flats have you seen the tracer headshotting mauga through window clip?

I hate the armor revert honestly, 30% armor was great for everything it feels like it only ever helps against tracer and nothing else now most everything that was gonna be threatening to me is now just even more threatening

1:56 that ana is every teammate i get just straight running away for nothing

I pretty much play only Ana and when shooting tanks with armor or just anything with armor the shots feel like they hit so much harder then before they need to tweak something with tanks for this change to work imo

I love the music that Flats uses in his videos. Especially when it’s Mario Sunshine music cause that way my childhood back in like 2009

I think armor should be able to reduce damage between both types of pellets so since originally it was really strong against normal shots like soldier or something now he just mows through u faster

It’s almost like the role will never work in 5v5

I’m practicing rein and I cannot get better at him I feel like I have my shield up for half the match and just rely on my dps. Any tips? Plat tank diamond dps

The Cass duel had me dying

try out the pinball minefield next

I stopped playing tank for a bit because of how miserable it became. Came back to test the new update....still miserable.

Enemy rein: greetings Flats: sorry buddy need my potg

To be fair with the changes to armor poke just eats armor now and given they had a sig and two hitscans might as well have not had any armor

I appreciate the Mario sunshine music a lot lol

I must say the new healing definitely shows

Honestly what mid season did for tank is put unarmored tanks almost on the same viability as armored tanks.

It's weird because it's a straight up buff to non armoured tanks and a tradeoff to armoured tanks

The big question is when do we get the 10 avoid slots?

Ball might honestly be worse than he was last patch due to roadhog. Sombra is back at the top, brig got buffed to enable double stun whicj she already made getting kills with ball way harder, Mauga is back to being pretty good who just beams ball down and charges his team if he goes in, Lucio is pretty good (which doesnt sound bad but boop basically forces ball to disengage), kiriko and bap are still good (both can just leave the fight or have the sustain to stall until help comes), mcree is better due to armor changes, ball got some good buffs yeah but none of his flaws are fixed and now he just feels worse. Is this a skill issue or am I not the only one?

ive been seein a ton more rein and hog which is awesome cuz they're my two main tanks

This patch is soo terrifying for tanks everyone expects you to do everything when I have two dps that can’t shoot down support

I have enjoyed tank more since this patch

2:46 jesus christ, if only emongg was there to witness it

havent played tank yet this patch but I could've told anyone that it was never projected as a huge channge in any way, its meant to be marginal and overall not majorly affect the state of the game. there is still only 1 tank, nothing will save you from being shot at by the entire enemy team besides abilities with resistance (Breather/Block). characters like Ashe, Widow, and Soj to an extent pretty much remain in the same positions they've been in. that being said, i think the only good buff Rein could ever have is a +5% movement speed increase while moving forward as he swings his hammer, or for a small amount of time after using his charge like a pseudo-shout.

Is that... Super Mario Sunshine music?

I can't f believe that rein isn't buffed yet

I dont have the tank changes but i hate the boop resistance buff because im a lucio main

what if to fix counterswapping, blizzard makes it so that you cant switch off the character you picked until 2 minutes later , so that people are instantly switching once they see a certain character

if i play too passive as rein, nothing happens. Team wont go past choke with me. So its a fine line between aggro and feeding lol

I do see a difference when I played tank, even though Im usually playing QP, and it’s not a good difference. I feel like I don’t heal at all even with two supports healbotting me, I just melt, no matter the tank. Even Roadhog and Mauga I seem to just go from full to nothing whenever I’m poking my head out.

Bro pushed a whole team and said where did my health bar go lmao

Now that flats brought it up, anyone else having terrible lag/crashes since s10?

honestly, being a tank with shields for hp (sigma/zarya) when the shield and new healing passive kick in it feels like crack

In middle ranked games the healing buff actually has a maasive impact. Ive noticed that the healers have to do less and that frees them up to hard pocket the tank or one of the DPS or go full dps mode without the heals dropping below whats needed much. That makes ana really good again as the anti turns every fight and it means killing anything is a slog as the healers can focus 100% on whatever is taking damage without disadvantaging the team as whoever is in cover will heal up on their own anyway.

It didn't fix anything. Now you take more damage from dps like soldier/soujurn. It was decent with the armour at 30% dmg reduction, but 5 damage per shot is ridiculously low.

Can someone revive Reaper ?

Mario sunshine music

'Empowering tanks in Mid season' Blizzard Entertainment. Just like PvE, this was a lie.

I know that Junkrat has been shredding Rein lately, and I don't think I should be killing one all by myself... 😅😂

Tank feels weird my take on it is you can make a play first now ever once and while but tank still feels weak

If your DPS are better than their DPS, playing tank is fun because you can just walk forwards under no pressure while their tank is getting blown up

5k views in an hour? Bro's a rising star of the youtube algorithim

Hinder, Hack, Suzu, and Now Sojourn Railgun being unaffected by armor, widow headshot is more effective against tanks because armor, Orisa, storm arrow, still being solo tank meaning you are forced to bare all damage alone.

tank still feel bad and the format is to blame tbh

JQ feels soooo good to play

Apparently this patch doesn’t look like it worked at all. But let’s wait and see.

as a low rank player this patch feels great

i had such a bad perception of the game until i realised i was a tank player, and switched to dps :)

As a road hog one trick/top500 this is a W patch

The idea of the armor change is good but needs tweaking, maybe like -25 dmg instead of -5 Because now you still explode but against different heroes.

SLEEPER BUILD, THE GIGA CHAD, THE REINHARDT🦍💪🗿

Are we back to a specific role playing dead by daylight against DPS?

Just gotta keep the 50/50 ratio. 50% honor 50% Glory. 😂😅

Does anyone know if flats still does bronze roasting? I have one hell of a match if so

Honestly I exploded yesterday with queen ngl man

9:10 what the fuck happened to that Road hog??? x-x

the knockback change feels like it did nothing as well, tank still just feels like a punching bag

im confused what were the tank buffs exactly? from what it sounds like its literally impossible for it to be a tank nerf from what ive heard of the changes. Why is flats saying it is for some heroes?

It feels better but some characters need less damage and some still need more health so healers dont have to babysit the tank all game

I guess it’s cause I’m unranked / medal ranks this my first season playing OW since like ow1 Only time I struggle is that damn discord orb But for the most part ram rein , I’ve been rolling teams

Bring back halt for the horse

I’ve won all my Rein games so far. But Mauga requires full team coordination, so Mauga is the new Orisa.

you dont die as fast but i dont think you can fix the fact that everything will be thrown onto you once they feel like going zen ana sombra cass. they do it almost every game. feels like shit to play to me at least cuz im a doom main. maybe that would be why idk tho

2:52, 4:16, 7:20

honestly 20% healing reduction was a mistake

Idea: give reinhart a gun to switch to!

Yeah so basically all they did was buff sojourn and the harder hitting dps but nerfed reaper (he didn't need nerfed everyone did what he did but better) granted I'm happy tracer no longer strips me down no more but it still doesn't save the tank when they are focusing them.

"Actually its 45 minutes" 🤓 "Oh did you do your chores this week" 😂😂😂