Did MSI Fix the Claw? - MSI Claw A1M Post-Update Review

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Testing the MSI Claw Gaming Handheld. Get yours: geni.us/zUz2F1Y (affiliate)
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:58 - A bit of background
2:00 - Design, Ergonomics & Inputs
2:50 - Gaming
4:00 - Speakers & Fan Noise
4:50 - Display
5:13 - Windows Upsides
6:15 - Windows Downsides
7:45 - Performance Issues & Frame Drops Persist
9:30 - Battery Life
10:30 - Upgradability & Repairability
11:20 - Final Thoughts
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@HanSolo__ Месяц назад

"I'm not so much into handhelds..." Pulls out three pieces. 😄 Cool video. Euro tech/gaming hardware channels FTW!

@CraftBeerTastic Месяц назад

How does she do these all in one take? Zero jump cuts! 10 out of 10!

@user-vk8dm9ps9p Месяц назад

Interesting video, but I don't think it's a one take^^

@HanSolo__ Месяц назад

Daniel Owen does 2-3 takes in 20min+ video. All with zero script. But he is a teacher.

@user-vk8dm9ps9p Месяц назад

@@HanSolo__ This is not a single take

@michaelthompson9798 Месяц назад

Awesome to see our Techtesters Team 🥰💪👍smashing out the videos and I’m always looking forward to their reviews 😇🥰🥳

@TechTesters Месяц назад

🥳🫡

@assassino447 Месяц назад

She's on fire! 3 vids in 3 days

@FuelX Месяц назад

Yes, so many videos this week!

@CrackedMB Месяц назад

True

@shreyasdharashivkar8027 Месяц назад

TeamGroup T-Force Z540 SSD is out and I am excited for its review man.

@FuelX Месяц назад

@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 I also want a SABRENT Rocket 5 and Crucial T705 reviews. Maybe Nada will eventually rank the latest gen5 nvme against each other.

@robertcochran7103 Месяц назад

Thank you for posting this excellent evaluation of the MSI handheld. I really appreciate the points you make. I have no experience with handheld gaming platforms, but I really like how well you present. The videography itself is outstanding. I hope tht MSI and Intel respond with corrections to the issues that you point out. Thank you so much for an excellent product analysis.

@zeo_here Месяц назад

If you had a handheld gaming channel id watch for sure🤣 your shots are amazing.

@ifredtandy Месяц назад

Excellent review. It would be nice if you recorded various computer peripherals.

@LifeoftheWarrior 23 дня назад

Thanks for the video! Will you do a comparison on the PC handhelds?

@TechTesters 23 дня назад

Welcome! Not sure yet, maybe if some interesting models come out?

@darrooxx Месяц назад

I see the intel arc structure is not fast and have enough performance than the ryzen handhelds ?? Is that opion right ?

@blind9376 Месяц назад

glad someone has done this to compare with the early bad reviews

@AM93000 Месяц назад

Stunning

@zocher1969 Месяц назад

Why is DLSS next to the titles at 3:19, ARC graphics doesnt have DLSS support. Did you mean XESS or FSR?

@Ruben98RaptoR Месяц назад

I am confused as well... Should be XeSS right? I think XeSS is actually one of the strongest selling points of the Claw

@TechTesters Месяц назад

You’re completely right. Force of habbit. Will pin a comment later today to clarify!

@fearless_H2 Месяц назад

I would take the Steam Deck over other handhelds. I like Linux and I don't mind tinkering if I need to. Also, at 3:09, there's brackets at the average fps for Tony Hawk Pro Skater. Is that just a typo or is the game capped at a specific fps?

@wilddogwatching6457 12 дней назад

thank u for the lego links in the description!

@NuckenFoob Месяц назад

interesting that your cyberpunk was stuttering so much, with latest Intel drivers i've seen other reviewers getting 50fps+ on 1080p and no stutters. did you update the intel drivers or just the MSI BIOS?

@TechTesters Месяц назад

Both of course.

@djbuknard 11 дней назад

@@TechTesters It definitely isn't consistent with other reviews and my own experience. With Bios 106 (as in your video) and the most up-to-date arc drivers at the time of your video most people got over 50fps. With Bios 109 or 10a plus the latest drivers and extreme performance with overboost, Cyberpunk is now averaging closer to 70fps, a massive difference to the 30fps and stutterfest in your video. Sadly I think something was missed in the settings? Also Baldurs Gate 3 is now considerably smoother (as is Starfield). All that said it was a great review but I would love to see an update! I have the SD Oled, Claw and LeGo and the Claw is now my favourite handheld!

@darrooxx Месяц назад

Een eerlijke en echte recente die je bij andere niet ziet.

@TechTesters Месяц назад

Always. 👍💪

@Patrick73787 Месяц назад

Nice and fair review Nada. Keep up the good work. Personally I would never buy an Intel Arc based handheld that doesn't come with at least 32GB of RAM as they typically need more RAM than their Radeon counterparts. 16GB is simply not enough for the MSI Claw especially in those heavier titles showcased here.

@NateNakao 19 дней назад

It's also worth looking at a company's track record with regards to customer service and whether or not they learn from their mistakes. Both MSI and Asus ROG have developed terrible reputations for their customer service while Valve is known for being very customer-friendly. Obviously, any company can change and improve, but just like you shouldn't buy a product based on what it promises to offer in the future, it's unwise to buy something from a company known for bad CS based on their promises to turn things around.

@nimbulan2020 5 дней назад

The battery life is behind the Steam Deck, but it's definitely ahead of the other Windows handhelds.

@hk6926 22 дня назад

When a sponsored video can't still save a product 😂😂😂

@EGMGaming712 Месяц назад

You should try out the ROG Ally as well!

@TechTesters Месяц назад

I wanted to grab one but at this point I'll probably wait for the Ally 2. Annoys me a bit that the SD card issue still persists.

@majinmal1072 Месяц назад

⁠@@TechTestersexactly this. I would like a more powerful handheld to pair with my steam deck oled le (which I love and use more than my beastly gaming pc) but I refuse to spend that kind of money on a product that I know has defects. That along with ASUS scummy practices makes me hesitant. I may get a Legion Go or wait to see what improvements ASUS makes to the Ally X.

@Bert439 Месяц назад

The biggest issue with these other gaming handhelds is that they are squeezing in 1080p high refresh rate screens. When they should have just slapped in a 720p 90hz screen instead. Valve knew their hardware was under-powered at launch and opted for a 60hz 800p screen.

@unkown34x33 29 дней назад

also doesn't matter how big the battery is... without proper optimization it doesn't matter. it's really sad that I'm outside picked Intel and I was trying to pick up the pace.... fire the board members lol

@shreyasdharashivkar8027 Месяц назад

The new TeamGroup T-Force Z540 SSD is out. Will you review it?

@TechTesters Месяц назад

I'll see if I can grab one :)

@ronm6585 Месяц назад

Thank you.

@TechTesters Месяц назад

You're welcome!

@usmcmsgt5487 19 дней назад

Steam Deck OLED 1TB is awesome and no issues so far.

@Narwhalicorn0204 25 дней назад

Better hardware doesn't mean much when the frame times are inconsistent. Which is a problem on all windows handhelds. I'll wait for when Steam Deck 2 comes out to upgrade

@thegamerboy1000 Месяц назад

I wonder if this device would perform worse/same/better if it had SteamOS or something akin to it loaded onto it?

@dangerwr Месяц назад

SteamOS is currently built around the Steam Deck's hardware, which is AMD based, so it probably wouldn't go well without having to jump through hoops to work with Intel. I have no idea what Arc is like on Linux, but that would be an immediate indicator.

@thegamerboy1000 Месяц назад

@@dangerwr your not wrong but that’s why I said “something akin to it” but maybe that’s why you don’t really see something like it. As it is a pretty big investment to delve into and then support, but maybe the could use those SteamOS alts like ChimeraOS as long as it still supports Arc I guess.

@yasirrakhurrafat1142 Месяц назад

@@thegamerboy1000chimera, bazzite (kinda the same as chimera). Needs to be tried on it!

@arthurmorgan1724 Месяц назад

Did you upgrade your gpu from a 3080ti to a 4090 . Just asking because a couple of months ago i saw a lady who was reviewing her 4090 said that she was upgrading from a 3080ti for work and i was like damn i wanna do this kind of a work . Anyways I didn’t knew that you were a gamer mom , so i subbed immediately . Extremely jealous of your kids 😊😊.

@TechTesters Месяц назад

Hope I helped? :)

@itashious 25 дней назад

Actually, just bought this for my nephew for his 10th birthday since he seem to be getting into PC gaming, I had been looking at the ally for a while and switch to this option because it was a bit cheaper and more affordable I know it certainly doesn’t perform as well as the asus ally but for a 10-year-old it’s going to be just fine, new egg offered a free 1Tb micro sd pro card to go with it, and also MSI is a pretty good company that I trust that they’ll come out with fixes in the future give them some time

@ToGrimmToWin 13 дней назад

Ally is considerably cheaper for me

@draco2xx Месяц назад

future pc handheld devices looks promising especially how convenient it is, ps5 and xbox will eventually become irrelevant except for exclusives. im very excited too see what asus, msi and other tech companies will make

@godmagnus Месяц назад

Oooh, the claw's gonna get ya! You're afraid of the claw!

@MegaKiri11 Месяц назад

When Asus ROG Ally X releases in black with larger battery... they will look indistinguishable!

@marcusgillespie8343 23 дня назад

How much was she paid to promote the dead claw

@johnathaan1 Месяц назад

Very insightful video the only piece of feedback I'd have is that you mention the steam deck alot in this video which personally I dont think is a fair comparison seeing how the os is completely different windows is notoriously bad for power management on mobile hardware and has been for a long time not to mention that the steam decks steamos is built for the steam deck and its hardware and valve has their thumb on the pulse of the specific branch of linux they're using for their system personally I am very surprised to hear the battery life gains you experienced with this system seeing how intel is also known for laughable power efficiency on mobile and desktop I am extremely glad to see a company go with a processor that isnt amd honestly its been getting boring seeing z1 extreme and 7840u and 8840u systems on the market it was making the market very stale in terms of content for those systems there's only so many videos u can watch on the same chip in handhelds before it sounds all the same which is no fault of the content creators

@johnathaan1 Месяц назад

I also agree with the fact that the msi claw is very expensive and the lower end model with the core ultra 5 needs to be cheaper even further then it is currently

@temmychristianto6905 Месяц назад

My battery stuck in 80% msi claw A1M, please help

@_TrueDesire_ 11 дней назад

Battery saving feature, never drop below 10% and never go above 80%.

@BleepBlop-rh9lm Месяц назад

Why did they go with intel though? It's much worse compared to AMD 8840s or something.

@afistfulofpimples1745 18 дней назад

Why don't you use proper grammar?

@hokayson6518 Месяц назад

You have to assume Intel strong-armed MSI into using Arc over AMD, I'd have thought by making Arc dirt cheap to buy from them but judging by the retail price that's not the case! Maybe it was a discount on their broader CPU catalogue for their laptops or something. I like competition, but it's gotta actually be a close competition, not...this 😄!

@DenkoYugo Месяц назад

Feels like a good first product, let's hope the follow up irons some things out

@TechTesters Месяц назад

Exactly!

@OledBurnInKing Месяц назад

I hope that msi will make an msi titan in a handheld gaming device with msi dragon center and msi afterburner. I wonder how msi claw handles games like control, crysis remastered, metro exodus enhanced edition, and microsoft flight simulator etc. I like these games due to graphics especially crysis remastered with can it run crysis mode since crysis remastered is my favorite game to play as use a reference and benchmark. Crysis remastered is my reference and benchmark because of can it run crysis mode in every graphics settings with native resolution, upscaling like dlss and other upscaling settings are always off since I never upscale the games. I always have dlss always off, v always off, v sync always off, the maxed out graphics sliders maxed out for every game, unlimited frame rates always enabled and frame rate cap always off for games that support these settings. For crysis remastered, can it run crysis mode always on intentionally because that's how I play. Ray tracing always enabled, dlss always off, v sync always off, motion blur always off, ray tracing experimental boost always enabled. I use these crysis remastered graphics settings on purpose when playing in native 4k on pc since I like to play the game that demands every last bit of hardware with can it run crysis mode because I enjoy the graphics alone. If there was an option for can it run crysis mode for every game, I would always enable it even when the game struggles to play the game at any decent frame rate.

@qwerty6789x 20 дней назад

holding the Claw. 1. Windows OS 2. Intel hardware

@JuanCAraujoS Месяц назад

I think Valve saw it all quite early. Microsoft might become the one blocking the way for handhelds.

@xxneroxxx4996 19 дней назад

I don't see a problem with hardware at all the problem seems to be optimization everyone is making games for AMD and invidea, Intel ARC is still brand new and is not optimized yet. Even AMD isn't fully uptimized AMD driver updates have broken games that have been around forever Luke skyrim fallout 4 and falloutnv. I actually like Intel is trying to take on AMD in the APU market they just clearly need more optimization

@mapuiatluanga3202 Месяц назад

👍👍❤❤❤

@maxdave9590 17 дней назад

Just buy the LENOVO GO, it's better, it's easily upgradeable interms of the NVME ssd, and it's got a Bigger screen, better for your eyes

@nathanjuan6042 Месяц назад

Rog Ally Z1 extreme is a better buy. I was considering buying a switch lite before then I saw a demo unit of ROG Ally and tried it and fell in love of it for the first try. The weight and feel is great perfect in my hands and its very light as well and the screen 1080p with VRR I tried the Horizon 5 looks great on it never experienced any lag or stutter and the game looks very sharp and crisp on it having 1080p with 120hz . I never regret buying it and very happy with my purchase having to play gamepass because it has free 3 month game pass, epic games, Alan Wake, Kingdom Hearts , Genshin Impact and my Steam games there is no limitations to it and the Armory Crate is very clean and easy to use. I'd say it was perfect if it weren't for the battery life but hey I can sacrifice battery life if I can play all PC games and in 1080p.

@unkown34x33 29 дней назад

based on everything I saw, yes for me the ally is the one! z1 extreme of course

@kennymccormick8295 21 день назад

A light switch? Switch light? Maybe you should look into a Switch LITE.

@Mohat1991 Месяц назад

TBH, Although it's true that other Handhelds have been out for a while and are more mature in product and optimization, but this is something that MSI already knew when they were launching the Claw. They have introduced a product that in some cases is more expensive than the Legion or Deck, and at the same time with much less performance and optimisation. I think this product is simply not worth it even in the long term. And its not like they are creating something new or new competition, as Intel is doing with Arc vs Nvidia and AMD, its just some corporate greed which wants a piece of this market without any innovation or at least good performance.

@jaynosowsky9708 29 дней назад

You should of just bought the rog ally ...it destroys all of them...everything is amazing but the SD card reader...but ibjust upgraded the ssd ...so don't need it.

@juliaskriek9700 Месяц назад

Still can’t make up my mind buying a steam deck vs an other handheld…

@TechTesters Месяц назад

I'll just say I'm happy with my SD OLED as a pick up and play device for travelling.

@juliaskriek9700 Месяц назад

@@TechTesters okay, :) I’m almost sold to SD…the only thing I worry about is that the RoG or any other handheld has “better” hardware for almost the same price or slightly higher right now… im building a good steam library and I play heavy games on console but I want those heavy games running on a handheld as well

@siqthepunk 27 дней назад

Just drop the price below the rog ally, it will fix everything.

@kalitvenec Месяц назад

😊

@davelaion Месяц назад

Dead on arrival. Nice vid!

@sheratedis Месяц назад

Intel ARC just can't compete right now with AMD graphics. Nothing wrong with CPU performance

@maxim_si 21 день назад

Why are u using FSR and DLSS but not Xees????

@TechTesters 20 дней назад

That was a typo. Will post a new image asap

@patrickcadette Месяц назад

😁😁😁👍👍👍

@Gamezone-ze3oz Месяц назад

Lol the Asus ROG Ally 2 is getting announced today.

@dt6esdff413 Месяц назад

fr?

@calmarfps Месяц назад

That was quick. Instead fixing and tweaking the problems of the V1, Greedy Asus went with V2 and wants money.

@Gamezone-ze3oz Месяц назад

@@calmarfps Asus have actually done a great software job on the ROG Ally

@Gamezone-ze3oz Месяц назад

@@dt6esdff413 in a few hours yes

@KarlParl Месяц назад

Not it isn't. It was the Rog Ally X, and they didn't really give any details.

@Goalier95 Месяц назад

no thanks MSI/Intel.... will put my money down for the ROG Ally 2024... great timing MSI

@TechTesters Месяц назад

I'm still happy with my SD so far, but curious what the Ally 2 will bring.

@Goalier95 Месяц назад

@@TechTesters I love my OG Steam Deck, didn't upgrade to the OLED model but I sure do miss the power/VRR screen and better Windows apps of the ROG Ally...just didn't like the SD card issue and poor battery life. I'll give it to MSI for trying though.

@gregyance9901 10 дней назад

I do not believe that you play videogames, but your insight is great as always

@VarjoPira Месяц назад

Ally Extreme just went on sale for 649€ here. Core 7 Claw is around 999€, with extremely (ha) weak retailing. I always root for the underdog, but that is quite the hole you're in, MSI.

@jamaalmeans6984 21 день назад

Everyone just get the rog

@finraziel Месяц назад

You're really comparing it against the wrong product... The first choice when looking for a handheld is steam deck or windows. Windows has some advantages which is almost all of the advantages that you mentioned for the claw. But if you do go for windows, then you'd have to compare the claw against the ROG ally and the legion go (and maybe all the Chinese handhelds). Crucially all those others have AMD SOCs (basically all kind of the same one too). So really the question first is AMD or Intel? And while I love that Intel is trying to break into more powerful graphics, for now I really wouldn't recommend buying them unless they're way cheaper. And they're not. So for now if you want a windows handheld, going with the claw is the sucker choice. Go for one of the AMD handheld and you get all the windows advantages but with proper reliable performance from AMD. And that's only if you want windows, to be clear. Personally I don't, I much prefer my steam deck.

@mariotomenbang2955 Месяц назад

The claw is not fixed. It broke a nail

@vinterskog Месяц назад

Just buy an Ally.

@unkown34x33 29 дней назад

unfortunately with this price point, terrible implementation of upgradability, with Intel burning, no amount of update will fix this thing....

@jackykwan2580 Месяц назад

Don't know why MSI want to shoot themselves on the foot with this and hurting their brand with this product since they spend so much money marketing their brand for performance and gaming. This is just such a bad marketing move.

@jeji5860 Месяц назад

800$ but worse than 600$ Rog ally? No thanks

@doultonevans 19 дней назад

Yeah the video she makes are great but that product from MSI is the purest of JUNK AND have the nerve to sell at premium price not humble at all on the entry into market with there prices don’t be a experiment subject!

@outlet6989 Месяц назад

Hi Nada, I hope your day is full of fine things and even better wine. Your video didn't interest me as I'm addicted to PCs. I only watched your entire video because I like watching you more. Have a nice day and enjoy your wine.

@TechTesters Месяц назад

I will, thank you and you too!

@miketran4289 Месяц назад

Nah.. it's junk thanks to being a Intel device. You are better off with a new Asus Rog Ally X or a Lenovo Legion Go with AMD

@senseidownhill5081 Месяц назад

There‘s no review to the deck ? My day is ruined …

@rneumediamanila 25 дней назад

Yup, thats the MSI Flaw!

@latibass Месяц назад

Software updates can't fix bad hardware.

@Testimony201 Месяц назад

Simple. But some Manufacturers can fix that tho, to some extent. Let’s use the Google pixel’s camera for example prior to the 6 series and beyond. I know it’s different but at least u get the point.

@TechTesters Месяц назад

Seeing how much Arc has changed since launch, I'd say software can do a lot more than we'd expect. Still need more though.

@l.light_9 Месяц назад

@@TechTesters 💯

@Saif0412 Месяц назад

I'm afraid the Arc GPU just isn't on the level of the the AMD 780m, plus the fact that it's way more expensive means there's basically no reason by the MSI Claw.

@danavidal8774 Месяц назад

@@Saif0412I think the GPU can, problem with iGPUs is that are CPU dependant and Intel CPUs are just not efficient at all so less power to the GPU, it will never overcome that problem