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Did Sea Shanties Give Us Rock 'n Roll? 

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A surprising bit of history links sea shanties and the term "rock & roll". This is a teaser for an upcoming video on rock 'n roll -- and it features my own slightly updated arrangement of a shanty!
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Welcome to the Endless Knot!
So, I’ve been sitting on an interesting linguistic fact about sea shanties for a few years, and now suddenly sea shanties are everywhere! There’s been an explosion of interest in sea shanties, particularly one called “Soon May the Wellerman Come” on TikTok. Actually, technically “Wellerman” isn’t exactly a sea shanty (as Adam Neely makes clear in a recent video), but this fact IS about sea shanties, and it’s part of a larger story that I put out a video about a few months ago, the story of where the word and the instrument guitar came from, which ended with the particular importance of the guitar to rock & roll, and I have a follow up video coming out later this year about the origin of rock & roll. And that’s where the sea shanties come in.
The phrase rock & roll has been around much longer than rock & roll music itself. Rocking and rolling has been used since at least the 17th century to refer to the motion of a ship at sea, reflecting both the forward-and-backward rocking and side-to-side rolling motions. It was then picked up metaphorically with sexual connotations in, believe it or not, sea shanties - they were already using the phrase to refer to the ship’s motion after all. So for instance in the song “Johnny Boker” is the line “Oh do, my Johnny Boker, Come rock and roll me over, Do, my Johnny Boker, do”, which, to my knowledge anyway, is the earliest connection between the phrase rock & roll and music. Sea shanties, by the way, are a type of work song, sung by the sailors as they do their work aboard ship. Work songs are a common phenomenon, found in many cultures, times, and contexts, as they help to regulate the rhythms of the labour and keep everyone in time, and the work songs sung by enslaved Africans on the plantations in the American south, along with being one of the possible influences on the development of sea shanties themselves, led to the the blues, and eventually to rock & roll. And this is why sea shanties, blues, and rock & roll all often feature the call and response, which served the functional role of regulating the rhythm by following the lead of the caller. The word shanty, by the way, first attested in 1856 long after the origin of the genre itself though likely used for some time in sailor jargon before it was ever written down, probably comes from comes from French chantez “sing”, the plural imperative of chanter “to sing”, from Latin cantare “to sing”, from the Proto-Indo-European root *kan- “to sing”. Spellings with both the sh and ch are found, the ch reflecting the French spelling, and the sh reflecting the French pronunciation, though the sh may also reflect the influence of the other unrelated word shanty meaning a “crude hut” or perhaps even an attempt at making the word look less French.
As for “Johnny Boker”, it exists in a number of different versions, including a fiddle folksong version that has nothing to do with the sea and has little in common with the sea shanty version. The sea shanty version is probably most popularly known from its use in the video game Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag. Originally it seems to have served the purpose of setting the time when pulling an anchor free from mud, which would make it a short drag shanty appropriate for quick jobs that required a strong heave, as opposed to a halyard shanty for more prolonged work. Who Johnny Boker might be is unknown, but one suggestion is that the name is connected with an obscure 19th c. British parlour song called “Johnny Poker”.
So sea shanties and rock & roll share some characteristics because they share some history. And to highlight this, I now present to you my own version of the first “rock & roll” song, “Johnny Boker”!
Do, my Johnny Boker, come rock and roll me over,
Do, my Johnny Boker, do!
...the Skipper is a driver,
...the first mate's not as sober,
...come rock and roll me over,
...the Skipper is a driver,
...the first mate's not as sober,
...the Skipper is a diver!
...the Bosun is a tailor,
...the Packet is a’rollin',
...we’ll pull and haul together,
...we’ll haul for better weather,
...come roll me down to Dover,
...come roll me in the clover,
...they say that you’re no rover
...I’m bound away to leave you,
...come rock and roll me over,

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Комментарии : 45   
@SkylersRants
@SkylersRants 3 года назад
I’ll never be able to unhear that.
@lmac6934
@lmac6934 3 года назад
A classic rock 'n roll version of a sea shatny is not something I ever expected to hear, and now it's the only genre I ever want to hear again
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
😁
@arcanics1971
@arcanics1971 3 года назад
I do like your lovely maps- and the Sutton Hoo helmet hanging.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Thanks!
@mcmasti
@mcmasti 3 года назад
Wow! Rockin' shanties!
@secolerice
@secolerice 3 года назад
I have always loved sea shanties. My husband told me about the Tik Tok making the rounds so I perused Amazon music for it and also found a bunch more. I noticed the albums the songs were coming from are from Assassin's Creed. Since I am not a gamer, I have no idea how they have this music in the games but that gets it out to a whole new generation. I had the chance to partake in a sea shanty event at the Maritime Museum in San Francisco in the early 80s and we actually got to haul line on the Balclutha while singing. We were moored and it was just for effect but it was wonderful to put the action to the beat.
@zak-a-roo264
@zak-a-roo264 3 года назад
Theres a great video clip somewhere of Jerry Garcia talking about hunting down books of old songs and sea shanties, he really dug that old stuff!
@kimberlymac4ever
@kimberlymac4ever 3 года назад
I have a picture of the Sutton Hoo mask, as well. Took it 1 & 1/2 yrs ago at the British Museum. Love it!
@pepsirosie6760
@pepsirosie6760 3 года назад
love the sea shanty revival lately! I didn't know you played guitar!! 😎😎😎
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Yup! Guitar and bass mainly, but I also play piano and a few other instruments. Music is my other obsession, besides etymology!
@rateeightx
@rateeightx 3 года назад
@@Alliterative As Someone Quite Interested In Linguistics And Even More Interested In Music, This Makes You Truly Quite Cool In My Book.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
😄
@unnunn12
@unnunn12 3 года назад
fantastic
@indigop38
@indigop38 3 года назад
The connection is highly plausible. You mentioned the origin of the word guitar but I didn’t hear you go farther on it. Upon a recent watch of a video about Romani “Gypsies “ also called gitano, I wondered if there was an etymological connection between guitar, gitano and sitar, as Roma people are said to have origins in India; same as sitar.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Yes, I have a full video on the etymology and history of the guitar: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L_YmbcyYlPI.html
@indigop38
@indigop38 3 года назад
Oh. I see that you did a video on guitar etymology. I will watch now.
@ThePseudoDionysius
@ThePseudoDionysius 3 года назад
Nicely done!
@susanmcmaster5810
@susanmcmaster5810 3 года назад
Love the vest! and the orange banner. Now the song is FUN! hEE Hee!!
@dtremenak
@dtremenak 3 года назад
When you mention one of your previous videos (like the guitar video), or a video by another creator (like Adam Neely in this case), it would be great if you could drop links in the video description so we didn't have to hunt them down. I know, I'm lazy...but I bet others are too :)
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Good point! I just forgot to do so this time. Thanks for the reminder, I've added it now. And Guitar's here, if you still need it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L_YmbcyYlPI.html, Adam Neely's here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m1ovAB4vKzw.html
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 3 года назад
Great video, especially the song! I had no idea that shanties are becoming popular. That's a trend I can get behind.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Thanks! And I know, it's great to see more people discovering the fun that is folk music / work songs!
@zozzy4630
@zozzy4630 3 года назад
I wasn't expecting this to start out with an Adam Neely reference, that's awesome! (Although maybe I should have suspected since I have it tucked away in my mind that you guys know 12Tone, though I can't remember why.)
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
We do-you may be remembering that we did a collab with them about “Music”, and also had them on a little quiz video from VidCon a couple of years ago. Don’t know Adam Neely personally but he does good stuff.
@zozzy4630
@zozzy4630 3 года назад
@@Alliterative That's right! I was actually thinking of the VidCon quiz, and I completely forgot about the other collab. Keep up the great work!
@enckidoofalling4519
@enckidoofalling4519 2 года назад
Rock and Roll also has blues on it
@kzeriar25
@kzeriar25 3 года назад
that last smirk will give me nightmares haha
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
😄
@LuinTathren
@LuinTathren 3 года назад
That was awesome!
@matt.s9607
@matt.s9607 3 года назад
Another cool video!
@umblapag
@umblapag 3 года назад
Bravo!
@richarddeese1991
@richarddeese1991 3 года назад
"It's a trip. It's got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it!" ;) tavi.
@AJWRAJWR
@AJWRAJWR 3 года назад
Step aside Elvis, there's a new king in town.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
😆
@anavajic4449
@anavajic4449 3 года назад
Nice!
@maryduffy2086
@maryduffy2086 3 года назад
Thank you 😉
@Tonks143
@Tonks143 3 года назад
Listen to "A sailors Life" By Fairport Convention, banger, and supposedly the first time the song was played with a full drumkit. Not quite a sea Shanty but a sea based song.
@patrickhodson8715
@patrickhodson8715 3 года назад
Sea shanty 2 gang, where you at?
@Ecotasia
@Ecotasia 3 года назад
This is major coincidence, I have been listening to sea shanty like stuff lately, completely independent of tiktok
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
You just had a sense of the zeitgeist without knowing it!
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 3 года назад
so.. the first ever rock'n'roll song was about mates being gay? i can live with that knowledge
@SkylersRants
@SkylersRants 3 года назад
I’ve been mulling over some of the claims in this video. It seems odd to say that singing sea shanties began in the 19th century. Singing to coordinate work is one of the most ancient practices of the human species. Claiming sea shanties are the basis of rock and roll also seems tenuous. Sure, if you modify the rhythm you can make it seem similar, but then you’be modified it. The call and answer pattern is quite old and did not come from African slaves, though they might also have had the call and answer format for their work. I think there is a whole lot of stretching going on here. I think there’s a big difference between when people started documenting work singing and when they started doing it. I’ll bet it wasn’t new at all to the ancient Greeks, who had their own paean, which alone seems pretty similar, though it appears to be more religious than merely for coordinating movement, though we can’t really say.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Actually, I said the first recorded use of the term was in the 19th century --- and that this undoubtedly was later than the practice. And I said that work songs were found in many cultures around the world. The *specific form* of the sea shanty does seem to have a historical origin in a mixing of African work songs and English/Irish/Scottish folk songs; we have evidence of some sailors' chants before, but not of extended songs until the 18th century, as far as I know.
@roblena7977
@roblena7977 Год назад
Dude im so sorry i really thought your voice was terrible. Turns out the instruments can really change a sound.
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