Did The Doctor Destroy Pompeii? | The Fires of Pompeii | Doctor Who 

“What the hell does that have to do with anything?”

azapro911 what episode is this quote from ?

William Bray the waters of Mars

If there’s anything he needs to do, it’s to stop blaming himself. It wasn’t his fault...

Define irony in this case.

Supreme Overlorde In some way foreshadowed 10th putting his hands on War Doctor’s hands so that he doesn’t have to push his big red button alone. Donna really changed the Doctor a great deal.

It's one of the most selfless things you can do

Despite her mother's negativity, that was the moment Donna was indeed Noble.

Damn 666 likes

*_W A T E R C A N B O I L_* Seriously though, what was his plan for dealing with the fucking Oceans?

To be fair only 70% of the surface is water, and that’s pretty shallow

best line ever XD

David Lopez Evaporating them I’m guessing

@@DavidLopez-pc7yg It was ancient times, he probably didn’t realise how pointless his plan was

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that

The Doctor saved Gallifrey during the Moffat era and the Master destroyed Gallifrey in the Chibnall era!

@@bruceyang2494 Both cheapen the sacrifice which was established in the RTD era IMO. With Moffat and saving Gallifrey, it makes the sacrificial decision the Doctor had to make insignificant. The show goes through nearly 10 years of the Doctor coping with the loss of his people and planet and then it turns out all that time it was still around but just in a pocket universe. With Chibnall destroying Gallifrey, you get a whole arc about the Doctor changing history to save his planet instead of destroying it and then Chibnall destroys it off-screen for no reason other than the Master having a temper tantrum. And not to mention the complete reversal of the Master's redemption arc across S9-10 but that's a whole other can of worms. Also, the possibility of Gallifrey being destroyed by the hands of one person unaided by no great weapon is mind-bogglingly asinine. The Doctor needed the Moment, a weapon nicknamed the Galaxy Eater, to destroy Gallifrey and the Daleks needed the largest war campaign in the history of the universe. What did the Master need? Seemingly nothing by the looks of it.

@@bruceyang2494the doctor still believed they destroyed it for a time though

Love the re-used actors in the BBC 😊

I knwo about Capaldi but what other companion is in this episode besides Dona?

Amy Pond is one of the soothsayers

Amy. Well, Karen Gillan as one of the ladies in the cult.

And both of the ones not featured here are pretending not to be Scottish while thinking a Londoner's Latin sounds Welsh.

To be fair, they usually are. Rose saw the destruction of the entire earth and then was attacked by zombies and ghosts. Martha got the easiest XD She got witches and pollution, all which resulted in a happy ending with maybe a few deaths overall. Donna saw the destruction of an entire civilization, then saw how alien slaves become a thing in the future. The Doctor needs to make better choices for his companions first trips. XD

Gamelover254 You're and idiot. Martha had to see the Master take over the world with a paradox and she had to save the world without any powers. Go watch Last of the Time Lords and you'll see what I mean

she is the one named Sailor Moon He meant the first two episodes specifically. Not their entire arcs.

she is the one named Sailor Moon That was the last of Martha's adventures with The Doctor...

@@Gamelover254 Martha had it easy? Did the forget the part where she trekked all over apocalyptic earth for 365 days to save the universe from the Master?

Agreed! I'd forgotten how amazingly selfless Donna was in this ...

I will not disagree. Spot on.

Good question! But I'd answer with 'no'. The Doctor saving Caecilius (AKA undercover 12th Doctor) later on SAVED the Doctor as it reminded him that he is the Doctor and he saves people (The Girl Who Died).

On the other hand, this is likely one of the events that resulted in the whole Time Lord Victorious thing in The Waters of Mars. So destroyed him in the short term and helped him in the long term?

he's not the doctor. Where are you getting that from?

Nowhere. It's just speculation. A fan theory if you like.

@@thetemporaljellybaby1040 you did realise it was a joke

Bogwedgle the same could be said for the destruction of the time lords and the daleks. Destroy gallifrey, save the universe. Thank god he found another solution. Maybe Pompeii was 10th's motivation to find another way.

11th doctor: Because the alternative is burning, 10th: and I've seen that...

Technically Pompeii was not really destroyed. Sure, the city was destroyed and teh people died. But Thanks to the pyroclastic flow, the whole city was immortalized, to be in history forever and forever remembered by the world. Had he not let Vesuvius erupt, Pompeii would never be a great part of history as we know it. ^^ So technically the city lives on in a way.

I am sure those that died will appreciate your twist on their city.

Thats a good story, but the Doc said he did, so yup...

Jarock316 Ooh, a Big Finish listener

Only thing left is for him to burn the Library of Alexander

Fifth Doctor caused the Great Fire of London.

@@Ocsttiac Bet Thirteenth will cause the Library of Alexandria to burn

@@Ocsttiac DOCTOR: The Black Death, 1348. I meant to warn you. ASHILDR: I got sick, but I got better. DOCTOR: Of course, your immune system is learning too. There's another bout coming. And a big fire that tears through London. ASHILDR: Excellent. Maybe I start it. DOCTOR: No, that was the Terileptils.

And...err...9th I guess. I actually saw the comment section empty, logged in, commented and then saw 8 other comments. Oh well. :D

What episode about 12th going undercover? I don't remember that?...

This episode! I don't think he's in this clip but Caecilius is played by Peter Capaldi. I'm joking that Caecilius was in fact the 12th Doctor investigating this past moral dilemma and therefore creating a paradox in which he inspired his own face.

that makes some sense, but what about frobisher?

Actually, RTD explained it - when the Doctor saved Caecilius, he changed the history so time itself straightened it by having that same man (dna of him, or the form of him, as you like) die with his whole family in Torchwood. But the Doctor said "To hell with time" and took the control - wore that face in spite of time.

Edward Hippisley-Cox maybe their system backfired anyway and caused the volcano with or without the doctor.

because! the doctor doesn't go with Martha back to the 1930's to Manhattan where the Cult of Skaro is currently located, thus Darlek Caan doesn't use the temporal shift to meet up with Davros and tells them how to do it. Thus pyrovilia isn't taken and pompeii happens as usual.

*Dalek, not Darlek. But yes.

Plot-hole! Plot hole!

Yeah, they don't actually mention the events that involved Davros' plan, do they?

If I remember correctly the episode you are talking about is the Zygon Invasion/Zygon Inversion

my fav Donna line is when she pokes her head out the window and says "Santa's a robot!"

And 'Back of the neck!'

_"you fort 'er off with a woi-ah pistol. I bloody luv you!"_

Agreed 100% - I still miss her to this day. "Tell me there's no Noddy!"

I'm sorry, Donna who?

Just like in Genesis of the daleks ;)

ctl eurocollege Well,not at all.

he may not have done it in Genesis but he still hesitated in both stories.

Yeah,that is true

Millions? 2000 people died when Vesuvius erupted...

Amaranth WATER CAN BOIL

I do like a good pun.

"In a lava, No?" "fphh", "uh"

Donna's reaction this joke is priceless!

Too bad that was exaggerated with Clara Oswald.

Mayo Tango131 That stuff only lasted half a series.

Cof Clara Who cof

And to think I remember when people were pissed off that she was becoming a companion! People were worried that she would become too comical for the show and that she wouldn't be able to act! How wrong they were.

General Grizzy 🙄 really

:)

@@GeneralGrizzy Does it almost feel like nothing's changed at all?

The 14th Doctor: never say never

blackham7 bee movie memes you like jazz?

If you took them just give 'em back!

blackham7 What??! NoOoO! Weird, huh?

Me. No. Speak. Celtic! lol

Michael McGrath Its all subjective :) I do enjoy the fourth doctor a lot, but the tenth doctor is so special to me.

i still feel like it has amazing episodes like Time heist, and Mummy on the Orient express are amazing

Heaven sent was fantastic

I never liked Heaven Sent, I found it pretentious and boring. I am, however enjoying Series 10 thus far, much to my surprise.

+Dill Cooper I agree, Series 10 is the best Capaldi series and I think the best season since Matt Smith's first one (Series 5). I gotta disagree with you on Heaven Sent though

And the Pompeiians were forever thrilled.

The only thing he could do. Pompeii was already a fixed point in time as it had already happened. Then again, Time Lord Victorious couldn't care less about fixed points...

TheInfiniterider Steven universe was born

Always seems to me as quite an underrated story (same with Planet of the Ood. What a great double bill). Hope James Moran comes back at some point.

No.

I assume that's a reference to my comment. I was merely postulating a theory, not stating a fact. Though I can see the confusion since I jokingly phrased it as a fact. As far as the facts go, The Girl Who Died confirms that Caecilius in The Fires of Pompeii was the inspiration for his face but, as fun as that'd be, there isn't really anything to suggest that Caecilius was in fact the 12th Doctor.

these loki comments are literally everywhere 😂

*main protagonist

hardly a cameo and it was well b4 Karen was considerd for the role...

Four and Nine had similar moments as well.