For the record, Schliemann did more to demolish what was left of Troy than discover it. His heavy-handed use of TNT during excavations and inarticulate handling of artifacts at the site was a true Greek tragedy.
@@CKlegion7272 The creator is the only one who can do that lol they were just pointing out a flaw in the development that could lead to a decrease in viewership as people might think they’ve already watched it and not even look at the video
The old civilizations used story to verbally record stories of events. They think they found where the Beowulf legend took place. It was a story of a young hero king slaying a monster, but the monster was a butchering king, mangling his subjects. They found a mass grave where the halls would be, bones mangle and damage by axes, and torcher devices.
While there is war on education right now (learning a trade isn’t bad at all and I did it before going to engineering to learn more), it is always the wealthy and people with connection being able to spend time on discoveries or writing ground breaking novels for the time. Now is the disclaimer. As frivolous some might think about wasting time and/or resources to find stuff, archeological or otherwise), this is important for all of us to understand and know where all is coming from.
The “war on education” is coming from within the academy, from those more dedicated to deconstructing (i.e., destroying) western civilization than transmitting it to the next generation. Then they’re astonished that the public doesn’t want to finance them. 🙄
Mary Renault's "The King Must Die" about Theseus and the bull dancing was the first of her books I read and the best--it's fantastic for anyone interested in the Cretes and the Minator's labyrinth, written to be spellbinding.
"Odyssey - Ancient History Documentaries" is a great channel, I play "Asassin's creed odyssey" very often, So getting insite into what may be real rather just hearsay/fable is great, Thanks Odyssey
Incorrect. The Minotaur (real name Asterius) was the son of Pasiphaë, Minos’s wife, not Minos’s. Pasiphaë developed an unnatural lust for a pure white bull that was to be a sacrifice to Poseidon. After having sex with the sacred bull, as punishment she gave birth to an infant that was half-man, half-bull. The rest of the story you know.
Half-man, half-bull? Physically impossible, sorry. Full marks for scholarship though - yours is far better than that which informs this documentary - they lost me on that score about a minute in, by describing Theseus as “the ultimate hero”.
@@mottthehoople693😂 We're all special in our own way, friend. You'd be shocked at what people are prepared to believe: apparently, a zombie carpenter is going to return to Earth one of these days to prepare the World's population for 'judgement' by the unseen original creator of the universe!
@@REIDAE no!!! actually in the historical record or in the material evidence clearly states that city was ever called troy it might be a basis of the stroy but show me jsut one evidence fro mthe site that says the city was troy you make shłt up as you go....
The bull is used in many depictions, stbols and purposes. What bothers me a lot with historical digs and execavation parties is that people set out to find something specific, and then they twist their findings to suit what they want it to be, rather than to discover what it _really_ means. I'll give it, Evans found something of true worth and value, but to claim it's the orogin of the labryinth and minataur because he found a throne and a sculpture of a bull is as much a stretch as saying Unicorns were hunted to exinction by proof of the unicorn tapestries.
Well i wouldn't cite satyricon as a good example it's literally a menippean satyre written in the 1st century AD so 1100-3000 years later then the minoan civilisation.
i may be wrong, but wasn’t it a cage or room where the father was helping restrain him? only to put him in the labyrinth as he was getting older and bigger bc they didn’t want to kill him?
Yes the king comssioned deadalus to build the labyrinth as soon as the minotaur was born. It took years to build, and the minotaur was kept in increasingly large cages in the castle until quite a was finished. It was only just finished in time as they were struggling to control the increasingly large and dangerous beast as it grew
I could never understand how a cow could eat human flesh. It's got the wrong kind of teeth, for a start. And guts. And a Bull's head would make the Minotaur very top-heavy, and super unstable on his poor little feet. :)
This video is a fascinating and informative look at the myth of the Minotaur and the labyrinth. The hosts of Myth Hunters do an excellent job of investigating the evidence and presenting their findings in a clear and concise way. I learned a lot about this ancient myth, and I highly recommend this video to anyone interested in history, mythology, or archaeology.
Reference to Labyrinths of Crete and Minotaur: And since the light has shone down out of Heaven upon the dark confusion of human affairs, we can discern a meaning in the most perplexing passages, and trace a guiding clew through labyrinths more intricate than that of Crete. -war with Mexico reviewed, Abiel Livermore
I am very frustated that RU-vid only let us thank(thumb button) only once,, this is a great show, Thank You so much for all the back story and mythology,
The legend feels like a version of puberty. Make father proud and happy with you, going through a deep and dark labyrinth, fighting through monstrous feelings, thoughts, and growing as a person, to come out into the light having survived it all. From age 10 to 18 now but back then it was more often 10 to 14. Then you were an "adult" and married off or apprenticed. Four years of struggle to understand and become what the adults in your life wanted.
There is an amazing fictional series written by Sara Douglass about this exact tale. It puts a mind-blowing twist on where in history this story should lie =)
The invention of the telephone is much disputed: Bell filed the first proper patent, but others had previously filed caveat patents (notably Meucci). Bell was born and educated in Britain but I wouldn’t say it was a British invention though! Swan started work on lightbulbs 28 years before Edison, and demonstrated his bulb a year before Edison’s. The Swan and Edison companies later merged, but the lightbulb is definitely a British invention.
Bell was still a British citizen so it’s a bit of a stretch but a possible interpretation. Swan definitely invented the light build before Edison. In fact Edison quite often claimed inventions that he didn’t invent.
Yes. A Dominion at that time, so anything invented in Canada during that time is claimed by Britain by default. It is one of the key reasons the Empire turned to the Commonwealth of some Realms sharing the same Monarch.
Without watching the vid, i dont think the Minotaur excited. I do believe there was some sort if labyrinth for prison games or other punishment. It would be in line for greece history for prisoners to play games for the public. And the public would place bets who won like forced gladiator games. So a death maze would not that weird for ancient greece. And if nobody did came come out the rumors of a monster inside must be true right? Let the rumors get the better of scared prisoners!
No the labyrinth may have existed and someone might have slain some long dead/extinct creature but probably wasn’t a Minotaur. The Minotaur part was probably added by the greeks as a metaphor.
13:38 that is a statement no modern historian or archaeologist would agree with. I realise that maybe in Evans' mind this was a plausible hypothesis but it's left ambiguous if this is even what the narration means, so quite reckless.
The " Minot Magicians" 🧙 My hometown High School. Named for the legend, in Minot, North Dakota. A dark legend for sure.🪄🎩(Founded by a French Canadian, lol.🇨🇦)
It like all myths are complex symbolic allegories.. in this case the minotaur is the ego which must be destroyed. It's not a maze its.a labyrinth.. meaning a definite path to the center.. you can lost in a maze not a labyrinth
It's true. But there were pizza restaurants, asshole industry titans, obssessed scientists, and people who think their ends justify their means. The details are almost entirely fabricated, but there are still many truths embedded in the stories of even Spider-Man.
Writing You Mentioned, That Be The Same Type Of Fabricated Writing. Attributed To KHUFU, &, Flinders Petrie, Telling Folks He, (KHUFU), Built The Great PYRAMID, At Giza.! Anyone Who Believes That LIE, Should Throw Themselves Of A Mountainside, The Genepool, Is Messed Up Enough.! We All Know Why, The Egyptologists Defend Such Bullshit, Its Due To Them Realising All Their PHD's ARE WORTHLESS, &, Not Worth The Paper The Ink Was Printed Upon.! 😮😊😅😂😅
I LOVE Greek mythology to the point of obsession. I love it so much that based on that alone Assassin's Creed Odyssey is my all time favorite game. For those of you who didn't know the word labyrinth probably originated from the word labrys. Which was what they called the two headed axe that was famous in Crete during that time. Theseus obviously never really existed and Athens never defeated Crete in war and ended their reign. Instead natural disasters and likely internal conflict was what started the down fall of their Civilization. But it makes for a much more compelling story.
Uncharted X did a full piece on the labyrinth that was found in 2012 using lidar at Hawara. This piece you are viewing is sorely incomplete. Uncharted X people.
Please, don't show me what we are now. It upsets me. It took us hundreds of years to rise, and the country fell in the blink of an eye. To think of what we were, and compare it to what we have become. I will say one thing about that site, the preservation is outstanding. I'm not thinking about what we've found. I'm thinking about what we haven't found. There must be dozens of sites that we have not found yet, as well preserved as this. All that I know is this, wherever there is water, there is life.
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Naw it's a metaphor for something that the Greeks should know but I never had no maze on any island nor asked for human sacrifice. I'm pretty sure that the Minotaur is supposed to be me because I AM The Bull of Heaven and made Crete my earthly paradise. Damn those sea people!!
“What the experts don’t understand!🤓” the experts understand that you’re not an expert and just some kid who watches RU-vid videos thinking they know more than anyone in the comments😂
@@BlueBonnie764 exactly! My old friend you said it right…”learn” most of these people you see commenting in comments don’t learn anything factual or they watch a RU-vid video and feel they should shoot shots at experts who do this for a living😂 We should always stay curious and learn instead of not agreeing to things and saying it’s all wrong because it’s not what you think or you watched a video and it’s not the same so it’s fake. I said “kid” because many are kids who don’t even go outside but feel they can stand up to experts😂
@@JuanMiranda-z2c Just because someone has an illusion,a lack of knowledge a belief that they are an expert Writes a book,follows a blind mice to a uninformed confusion (conclusion) Doesn’t make the conclusion right Greece was the cradle of Western and Middle Eastern Civilisation full stop History began from west (Greece) to East and not from east to west
@@dp6003 Sumer predates the Mycenaean civilization by about 4 thousand years. Mesopotamia was a historical region, not a country. "Mesopotamia" is the name of this region in modern English, not in Sumerian or Akkadian, so it's completely meaningless вброс. Oh wait, are you just a patriotic Greek and can’t objectively look at civilizations older than the Greek ones?
@@dp6003 Why this stupid sarcasm? Did I say something wrong? Please point me to this error then. Yes, I am very experienced, because in order to know that, I had to go on countless time machine expeditions, так ведь?) Достаточно ли мой ответ соответствует вашему прекрасному уровню ведения дискуссий?
100% without a doubt the labyrinth did exist. Yet it did not exist in Greece. The Minoans weren’t the original inhabitants of Crete they only settled there. So some stories of ancient times were either rewritten to hide the truth or details left out due to word of mouth.
The Minoans are first. The people that corrupted the information is the Myceneans. They took over Crete, and the histories and thus myths changed, after the eruption that wiped out the Minoans civilisation. Crete is huge in mythology, because it is the island that Zeus was said to be born on, and also where he is said to have died.
Minoan Palace's (layout/design were the labyrinth). The Minoans were the link between the middle East (first great civilizations, Babylon, Egypt, etc) and Europe. The Mycenaens were completely enriched by the Minoans and copied their everymove. Most of the Greek dark ages was filled with tales dating back to the Minoan/ Mycenaen era (Menataur, Medusa ( snake goddess of Crete) and the story of Atlantis is most certainly decended tales (tall for sure 😂) of theThera eruption.
yes, it did. vast storage on the ground floor of Knossos . impoverished people who live in the area of today's Athens never ever dreamed of having such huge storage complexes.
Furthermore, the Minotaur was not the son of Minos, King of Crete, as you incorrectly stated.. If you had studied Greek myths in any detail, you would know that according to legend Pasiphae, Minos' wife, developed an un-natural passion for a prize bull and consummated her lust by hiding in a hollow wooden cow, made for her by Daedalus - the mythical inventor and sculptor, She was impregnated by the bull, and gave birth to the Minotaur. I give up: of course the Minotaur didn't really exist. We are not children, you know.
FYI, the past tense of "slay" is not "slayed". It is "slew", as in "Theseus slew the beast". (See online Collins English Dictionary and other reputable authorities.) If you are going to do the voice-over for serious subjects, I suggest you acquire a basic knowledge of English grammar.
I'll accept the butchering of Theseus' name but Mynos and My-nataur? Why are you adding the long I into a language that does not and never has had that sound. I see people do it with Dionysus too. I sounds like E. And Y sounds like the short I (like in it or Istanbul). So its min (like mean) Meenos/Meenotaur. And Dioniysus is not Die-oh-nicesus its Dee-o(short o like in Orange)nisus Hope this helps with future videos. Should give you more credibility when talking about them.
Anyone else think Theseus is a douche for killing the minotaur. The thing was in a maze it couldn't escape from and thus couldnt harm anyone who stayed out of its lair. And he decides to go in and kill it anyway
Um… for years the creature had been fed ‘tributes’ of boys and girls from Theseus’ homeland. Whether the monster - who or whatever it was - can be said to have been less of a savage predator and more of an exploited victim, Theseus at least surely had a strong motive for revenge?
@@1972hermanoben not really, the true monsters were the ones feeding children to a minotaur suuurely. That's like me feeding children to a lion only for the lion to be blamed
