One bit of information that may interest some of your viewers is that the Samsung N-501, N-504/505 and RCA Nuon players are able to play Homebrew games, the Extiva and Toshiba cannot. At some point VM Labs released the development tools so that the homebrew community could create new content for the platform. There's a lot more information on Nuon on an old fansite called the Nuon Dome(not sure if links are allowed, just look it up, very easy to find). Highly recommend checking it out if you're interested in learning more about Nuon.
I was in the Marine Corps when the Nuon was originally discussed back in the 90's. I was honestly really excited about it, right up there with the M2 system. I was really disappointed that it never took off. I just find it amusing that the PS2 basically did what the Nuon was designed to do, and marketed properly.
...which makes me wonder, Notes and Nerds, just how powerful was it against the Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo GameCube, Sony PlayStation 2, Matsushita M2, Microsoft Xbox, and Nintendo Wii? Also, thanks for serving in our country.
Another great video bud! I saw you at the PLAY Expo on Saturday tucking into a chilli dog with Lady Decade! I was gonna pop over to say hi and thank you for both for being great inspirations to start my own channel, but I didn't want to disturb your family time ;) Hope the three of you had a great expo!!
@@Robeight nice! I was tempted by a pizza but that queue system was ridiculous!
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It's kind of like 3do where you had different manufacturers producing the hardware. looking at the specifications on Wikipedia it seems powerful with a quad core processor but the games shown are not even dream cast level in terms of graphics fidelity
I worked for the gaming division of Logitech at the time the Nuon controller was produced. I can't comment on the first party controller, as it was done by some other company (maybe Samsung?). The one we produced used the plastic parts from our then current PC game pad with the USB microcontroller and cable replaced by Nuon's proprietary chip and cable. As a firmware engineer, I wasn't directly involved in that project as the Nuon chip came pre-programmed. I do remember that many in the company were sceptical of that project: it turns out they were right! I think the controller was sold in retail stores as an accessory. I don't think it came bundled with a player/console. I'm not 100% sure if any/all Nuon consoles came with a controller.
Cool that you worked for Logitech back then. While the Logitech Nuon controller is solid (and is super pricey on eBay these days), the analog stick doesn't have as full range of motion as it should, which was a definite quality control issue - doh! The Samsung branded controller that you often see pictures was made by HPI (Hot Products Inc.), which they also sold as HPI-branded with a different color scheme and called it the Warrior. This Samsung-branded Warrior was included with all Samsung DVD-N2000 Extiva players, the first-ever Nuon-capable DVD player. The only other Nuon player that came with a controller was the Korean model Samsung, the N591, and that controller looked like a PSX controller but had terrible action button placement. HPI also made another controller called Stealth that took its styling cues from the stock N64 controller. The Stealth apparently wasn't built very well but it's considered by many to be the best overall controller for the Nuon. Cheers.
Having a 16 bit processor main-stay in a 64 bit console (ie the Jaguar with the use of the Motorola 68000...) didn't exactly help matters in making the platform a serious contender amongst Sony and Sega..
I always wanted a Nuon. I remember when it was in the magazines back in the late 90s. I even have Planet of the apes and bedazzled on nuon DVDs. Someday I'd like to snag one especially for tempest 3k
Just for sh@# and giggles, I would love to see some indie developers take these failed consoles and try to port their game to it or make a game from the ground up on it that pushes the system hardware to its limits. Every console has that game that pushes it to the limits and usually they look amazing. I just want to see if these systems failed on the market simply because the software or the hardware was horrible.
I've had the luck of finding both in my local thrift store in the past. One tip for finding a Toshiba Nuon player, if you are able to buy a broken SD2300 you can use parts from an SD1700 to fix it. My original SD2300 had a bad laser and I swapped the entire dvd assembly from a SD1700 in and it worked flawlessly.
@@xsuicidesn0wmanx Whaaaaaaaaaaat? That's crazy, both of them. Of course, I would rather find the LaserActive with both the Sega and TurboGrafx pack. Nice tip, thanks, I'll still be looking!
I have had a Samsung DVD-N2000 Extiva Nuon player sitting in a closet for years. I still have the controller and one game it came with. Is this worth keeping or do one of you guys who have been looking for one for year want it?
I remember there being quite a bit of fanfare about this system. They liked to use The Matrix to show off the pause and zoom features. It was actually kind of exciting, the information being passed on was encouraging to say the least. Then, nothing. I do remember seeing a unit in a Circuit City, to the tune of $500, I think. Shades of the 3DO? At any rate, I ended up with a Dreamcast that I really didn't like, returned it and just waited on the PS2.
really cool to see the nuon getting some youtube coverage! i'd love to own one of these at some point basically just for tempest 3000. everything jeff minter does is excellent. and yeah, i highly recommend tempest 4000! it's excellent! just be sure to get it on the xbox one and not the ps4, as the in-between level minigames play a lot better with the xbox controller's joystick than the ps4 controller's motion controls.
Hmmm , didn't the Samsung Nuon receive more than 8 titles; I could be wrong , but surely it didn't have such a meager library of electronic videogames ?! 😮😒💪👍
I'm not sure they were really tried to enter the console market with the NUON. I had one of these Samsung NUON Players. The box only had one small area describing it's gaming functions. They mostly stressed that it was a top of the line DVD player with an intuitive interface, zoomed at 5% intervals, etc. And I will give it credit for that. It had the simplest and easiest to navigate menu when using DVD's. My Blu-ray and 4K players look primitive compaired to my old NUON 501. I think Samsung's main goal of using the NUON chip was just to make an extra fancy DVD player, not so much a game system. I remember RCA release a NUON that didn't even have controller ports on it.
Protective film peeling videos > unboxing videos, unless they're by James May or Kermit Weeks. If your senses can handle it I recommend Polybius, preferably in VR mode! I'm still tripping veritable balls
I don't know if the Nuon is necessarily "elusive". In the last 2 years, I have bought 3 from thrift stores in my area. You just have to look for the Nuon icon on old DVD players. I saw the Rerez video about the Nuon, which is where I learned about them, and seriously found one about a week later. No one seems to be aware of their existence so you can go to a Goodwill and have a decent chance of finding one priced for about $5 tossed in a pile with the rest of the DVD players.
holyshit, an dvd player with games... but capable of n64 graphics (Merlin Racing ), now i'm impressed, this was much better than what we had here or the cable tv games...
I heard about that fall but seeing it ow. ^_^ My best comparisons to the Nuon is the Philips CD-i and the 3DO especially in the marketing features as a general appliance. Not a bad idea but it seemed like handheld use was the key feature missing before, as tablets and modern phones blew up as multimedia devices, and probably the other corner stone was unifying the OS and other hardware standards. 6:00 We're there now but what did that even mean then, got to love vague lofty statements? You're missing out, Buckaroo Banzai is kitschy as hell. ;)
Tempest X3 on PS1,Tempest 2000 on Sega Saturn are on my list of games to acquire......For now I have TxK on Vita and original Tempest on Vita, Switch, PC, GBA......
I love how you pronounces 'The Sega Dream-Cast' Is Slope alright? Looks like he broke his arm there. That guy in the audience cracks up immediately, Is that the guy from the retro channel?
Bunch of guys who worked previously on numerous of failed consoles decided to join forces and make a new console? What could potentially go wrong there?
So I picked up one at another castle in Edmonds Washington and found a reproduction of the tempest 3000. Pretty new to all of this. As usual no controller but I'm hopeful in building one or finding one in the future. But for now does anyone know if the remote control can be used to play the games?
Wow, I saw him down and get up, but with that angle I see slopes proper slammed into the floor. How did he just get up? Anyway, subbed Saturday, great first video. Will be watching your back catalogue.
How he got up so fast? pride and shame I guess. If I was alone I would just take a minute to realize wt just happened. But with that audience I'd get up just as fast. I wonder if Slope is alright though, such a great dude.
Has the cloning methodology ever really worked in the gaming industry? So many of these failed devices comes from companies that tried it, like Panasonic and Apple. The Nuon seems better than the CDi. That said when the CDi first came out I really wanted it for the Nintendo properties, mainly Zelda, that appeared on it. But through word of mouth about those titles that desire quickly faded.
No wonder Nuon it’s a failure since all the dvd’s are selling right now.the Nuon never made other games at all. But if you play Dragon Lair on the dvd it would be playable with that game
Won't work. There's a proprietary chip in every Nuon controller that speaks to the Nuon player's bios. That chip would first have to be reverse-engineered. A guy in Europe made a small batch of controllers last year with authentic Nuon boards he got from VM Labs a while back. Supposedly he's going to do another run soon.
Here is another system with promises like 3D0 that flopped even worse. I never even heard of this system at a time when the internet was available. This machine, like many others, was a money investment that simply went no where...sad.
I had that. It was gloriously ridiculous. It also demonstrated how little effort was put into the "NUON enhanced features" of the handfull of movies that were given that treatment. I've always wondered what they had planned. There was a "NUON Features" button on the remote that was never used in any of the movies or games I had, so I'm guessing that was intended for some purpose that never materialized.
Thank you for covering such niche tech, but are the sexy ladies on the title screen entirely necessary? I'm sure it adds to click rates, but it does rather lower the tone.
Well I had a panel at a con, so ner ner ner ner ner. Pretty sure as a professional speaker, I can do a better job at speaking than a professional programmer, who instead specialises in programming.
