Did the Virus Do it Or did We? | Disentangling research to come 

Nailed it!! The refusal to discuss the actual safety signals has contributed massively to vaccine hesitancy. People aren’t stupid & they realize that the message “vaccines are safe & effective, so shut up and don’t ask questions” feels very dismissive and potentially sinister.

Thank you Dr. Prasad. For the past 2 years I've hated hearing people say "I can't do 'such and such' because of COVID..." It's not COVID at all. It's the governmental policy.

The mitigation against covid has done much more damage than the virus ever could have by itself.

Thank you for your honest commentary through this craziness. Respect. I just felt like sharing I’m a 36 yr old unvaccinated female. I was originally vax hesitant, unsure of risk vs benefit for myself. But now I find myself principally opposed to getting the jab because of the mandates and demonization coming from every level. Notice the lack of health based considerations (however if I felt at higher risk, that would weigh heavily). Even worse, I’m now question on all vaccines, have zero trust in CDC, FDA, and public health officials, not to mention big pharma. That sounds crazy to say, even to myself, but it’s honestly where I’m at. I can only imagine how many people share these feelings. From the top down, they have created the politicization, demonization, and shown to be untrustworthy time and time again, without any accountability. The damage is vast and ongoing. Our country has some serious reflecting to do but many are not there yet, and I seriously worry we will never get there.

I didn’t skip the jab because of politics of poor marketing. I don’t consent to participating in an experiment that has no long term data.

My wife and I live in Nicaragua. The schools here never closed and businesses never closed. Public transportation continued as normal. Yes we had more deaths than usual in April,May and June of 2020. But by July of 2020 things seem to go back to normal in the hospital. A friend of my wife's had surgery for cancer right in the hospital that was supposed to be bad. Her surgery could have waited 6 months. Hospital here are free so they are always full because people go there instead of the doctors office because it is free. So if our hospitals are over run in the Last year and a half some one in the states are lying. We have kids not wearing masks and kids have been fine. I have been going to local markets where people are packed in and there isn't a problem. Anyone who ever rode Public transportation in Central America knows what i am talking about. We have been fine but the media still has people here scared.

I 100% believe that our response to the pandemic caused more death and misery than the pandemic itself.

What about the “vulnerable” people on their seventies or eighties eating inside restaurants and having a good old time while children can’t take their mask off even out in the school yard? Also, deaf kids who rely on facial expressions to make sense of the world and communicate? It’s just unfair and illogical policies! I’m with you in this one. Keep raising awareness in this 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💪🏽

This is exactly what my family is living through right now. Both my kids, 4 and 10, have been sent home because of being exposed at school. My youngest is required to stay home for 10 days after exposure. After a week of being back in child care, she got exposed again. So another 2 weeks at home. Meanwhile my wife and I are expected to work and to pay for child care regardless. We are lucky, some of the other kids come from single parent homes. Both my wife and I where happy to get vaccinated and boosted, and to comply two years ago, but that time is over. We will enthusiastically vote out of office everyone who continues to support these COVID measures, from President on down.

Dr Prasad, your "ramblings" are a thousand times more honest and informative than all the prattle on corporate media combined. You are a brilliant voice of reason amidst the chaos being forced upon us and you are making a difference. Thank you

I have nothing but respect for all your valuable insight throughout this pandemic but I would love to hear a theory why these mistakes keep on happening in one direction. The concept of corruption seems to be non-factor in any of your videos. Thank you so much for all your work.

as an ICU nurse I can say I am traumatised by everything that happend at work: my patients lay alone in a room and when I needed help because they took a turn for the worse I had to yell for help through an intercom, but sometimes everybody else was in a room with their patient and they couldnt just run out. And then your other patient had an alarm as well bit you couldnt see them. And all of this with an FFP2 restricting your breathing during stress. And how I was shut out of restaurants and stuff because I didnt have a QR code... And all of this for a virus that is exactly like the flu. Wtf! I am done with most people and certainly not going back to the ICU.

Having JUST recovered from covid, I can say that being infected was the LEAST inconvenient part of the pandemic... And I'm "unvaccinated".

Nearly the entire population of Portland, Oregon are wearing cloth face panties outside in the sun on a windy day acting like it's March 2020 as if that actually worked, scorning others who don't follow the fashion trend. I guess they didn't see the news update about the ineffectiveness of their face decoration.

I have a friend who was diagnosed with an early stage breast cancer. They canceled her lumpectomy because she tested positive for COVID. How is this ok??? As a breast cancer survivor, this infuriates me. How is COVID trumping cancer?

I am glad you talked about Sweden. I live there. When it started and they decided not to close the schools, Anders Tegnell said that the data does not support it. When people keep pressing on him he said to check back in a year.

Thank you Dr. Prasad for expressing a voice of sanity, in an era plagued with irrationality & sensationalism.

I'm so happy that Vinay is being red pilled. Thank you for opening your eyes and mind Dr. Prasad.

The media isn’t talking about healthcare, the general poor health of Americans, how we can become healthier to lessen things like we just went through. No one is talking about the studies and data from around the world. The US is pushing shots and shots alone. It’s infuriating.

Finally a public doctor who does a serious cost benefit analysis and not the faucian prevent virus at all costs method

Policies have been far more destructive than the virus, especially when we take into account death rates more than 10 times less than advertised, as the UK stats revealed.

I have said this from day one. How I, with only a BS degrees in cell biology and organic evolutionary biology, could call this before our nations leading "experts" is beyond me.

We will all encounter the virus. Mandates aren't working. I had it back in Dec 2020. Vaccinated summer 2021. I just had mild case of Omicron two weeks ago during a lockdown in Ontario, Canada. I've only left the house to go to the grocery store. I completely agree with you Vinay. I plan to not forget and be vocal that it wasn't the virus but the policies for the economic, mental health and education issues we will be facing very soon.

You mentioned that policy have caused many life altering changes. For example my wife and I have just both retired in early Jan just before covid started-2019. We have both been waiting and planning on traveling and dreamed of many trips we were to take - the first would be Santorini. Well of course 2 years later and we'll still waiting. I am 74 she is 70 and I was just diagnosed with CKD stage 3. Thank god its looks like it has been not progressing, but this puts a sense of urgency and frustration to are long held dreams together. Its so frustrating see so many people submit to so many life altering restrictions in the name of safety. Do they not see they are throwing these years away. And in our advance age stage of life these constraints amount to a significant percentage of what is left. Its maddening...

I don't understand how people continuously say masked faces are no big deal. It is impossible to meet new people, 1/3 of faces covered ...shrouds peoples moods, personalities...our facial expressions play a key roll in deciding to bravely start a conversation with people we do not know. My daughter is a junior in high school now in CA- the only reason she is okay is b/c she still has friends she made in middle school and a couple new ones from first half of freshmen yr of high school. School closed for a year and a half- and while she is back in school in person- no one has made NEW friends like we all normally did...as we ALL evolve during adolescence as we experiment with defining ourselves and our individuating process. THIS normal, healthy development is not happening with everyone's faces covered. Those who are fortunate to have a pre-existing circle of pre-covid friends/ support systems are okay, but STANGANT. My son is a first yr college student who lost his entire last years of high school...pivotal period of time lost. As a late bloomer, he went from 5'4" to 6'3" in his bedroom during zoom school. He never got to experience his sports in his bigger, stronger body- he never got to navigate the needed social development everyone needs to gain confidence and become comfortable in ones own skin...all of these things affect life trajectories and decision making. How is it possible that influential people do not know this?

My 9 year old daughter had COVID last week. Mild headache and fever that lasted 24 hours. Next day she was fine. But she had to stay home 5 days and was allowed to return to school as long as she wears a cloth mask for 5 days (otherwise sh would have to stay home 5 more days). The dumb school policy (based on the nonsense CDC guidelines) has disrupted her life more than COVID has. But here is the real idiocy of our school's policy - had she tested negative she would have been allowed back to school the next day, no mask. If she was unable to get tested then her only requirement would have been to stay home until symptoms resolved and then return to school with no mask. Yes, actual adults wrote that policy. It's lunacy. So, we're just not testing our kids any more.

have you seen the video on Rumble with Senator Ron Johnson as he holds a conference with physicians from around the country/world to discuss the pandemic and covid ? long, enlightening video that all physicians should see. just saw it last night. wow.

There are at least 38- 40 different therapeutics being used around the world by countries that have no access to vaccines or mRNA drugs. We should be discussing this as well as natural immunity and other considerations which vary the severity of the symptoms (ie IgA levels, blood type, genetic variables, blood type, overall health and comorbidities, etc.).

Unfortunately, the damage has been done. The fear that was built is now hard to let go of for those that believed in our public health response. Any shift in public policy will now come under fire and doubt by those hardcore believers in the apocalyptic view of this disease.

One of the things that drives me crazy are rules that do not make sense. My high school son had to have surgery and miss a few days of school but was not allowed to participate in virtual classes. Only kids that had covid are allowed to access virtual classes. That is so stupid.

I wish people thought for themselves instead of listening to whatever the media tells them to do.

Thanks so much Dr. Prasad for articulating so well what I see and feel in my medical practice in Chicago. I see women who are young and hope they never have to go back to work in person… they’d rather stay home on Zoom because they’re afraid when they don’t need to be. I see women gaining massive amounts of weight because they just stay home.. they gave up their gym membership because of Covid. I see depression, anxiety, faces with no expression behind the masks and wonder if they will ever regain the ability to express. I see lots of senseless anger against the unvaccinated and try my hardest to encourage compassion.. even families are broken apart over differences of opinion on vaccines… in 5 years will it have been worth it for people to have lost touch with their families over a virus that everyone will get? I am very lucky that I have continued to enjoy my life over these 2 years… I travel a lot, I go surfing every chance I get, I laugh a lot. Just wish my patients could find their joy also.

I work in a hospital that yet again changed their policy to no visitors....I disagree with this policy and for a moment I felt it was going against my own moral and ethical values...I had to see past the policies, hospital ceos, etc and focus on my focus of serving the community as a nurse...We've had no remote, we go in day in day out and serve ...teachers need to show up and focus to teaching children, just like the guy at walmart who shows up to scan your items to get a paycheck to feed their families ... The virus is going nowhere, the public needs to show up for each other and upcoming generations effected...

Its not even the policies, its the shaming and mental games some are inflicting on their fellow human.

When I was living in NY, I could play basketball outside, too. However, I couldn't go in a restaurant, museum, many retail stores, chess club, gym. An establishment could deny me on its own, and perhaps that would be irrational yet acceptable, but don't tell me it's somehow broadly supported, or "democratic," when all of these establishments do it only after a mayor mandates it. A major reason why people are so polarized on these issues is that for many, what they hear is in extreme contrast to what they experience. How many people say something like, "I don't personally know someone who died, but I know someone who know does." So...what is the point? ...that because the virus merely exists anything is justified? Well, I hate to sound insensitive, but I know many people who have died: from brain cancer to heart attack, from car accident to razor scooter accident. Where & why is this absurd vision of the world originating & spreading, where certain people think they are not only entitled to enact any policy regardless of collateral damage, but they think are even capable of eradicating it through their policies? Of course it is the policies that caused us the most harm, not the virus itself, but it isn't as if you can have a reasonable discussion anyway... ...When you actively deceive and hide data (take the somewhat recent CDC/Kaiser paper statistics as an example), my trust is gone. I don't look at your next batch of results, or later-released data from a previous paper, and give you the benefit of the doubt. Even if I don't plan to use Iver*ectin, I know someone is a liar when repeatedly referring to it as a "horse de-wormer." Ignoring, and even suppressing, any discussion on ferritin/iron labs, calcidiol, parathyroid hormone, aspirin, povidone iodine, vaccine induced platelet factor-4 activation, vaccine induced increases in sFAS or IL-6, spike protein binding pocket linoleic acid affinity, etc...is not the behavior of an investigative scientist, but that of a propagandist.

11:20 "people who are over zealous and don't want to discuss safety signals such as myocarditus in boys in a certain age group... are inadvertently feeding the 'other side' who feel as if information is being suppressed.: You know, there's another way of working this, "there are people who are concerned that information is being suppressed - and they're absolutely right. It is."

The biggest thing about 2020 onwards for me was this: before 2020, I had a pretty high degree of confidence in History. Sure, I always knew History was at best a "Soft Science"; there is no way to independently verify Historical claims to the same extent, the same way you can with the Natural Sciences. But at the same time - call it naivete - I didn't imagine there would be a concerted, malicious, high profile attempt to subvert it. That seemed too far fetched, too "Conspiracy Theory" to me. Imprecision, earnest error, sure; deliberate malfeasance, rare at best, and of course readily countered by the plurality of voices, by the free marketplace of ideas. I will readily say it now. I was a fool. I see today what the status quo will BRAZENLY, in your face lie about; things that I can see myself right before my eyes. I see how - initially to my total perplexity - they can get away with it. I see how they can drown and intimidate and silence dissenting voices - no matter how numerous. I can fully imagine what the historical records will say about the events of today, 50 years into the future. And when I say anything about it, that will be the senility talking, of course. This has been a paradigm shift, as far as social phenomena are concerned, to me. I now realize the time before I was born is a hazy mist. It's IMPOSSIBLE to know anything about it beyond the barest of generalities. And the less you're allowed to discuss a subject, the more likely it is that the official narrative is a deliberate fabrication.

“We can’t let the cure be worse than the disease” I heard someone say once

Given that I live in Quebec, Canada, I now can't: go to a Costco, Walmart, home Depot, best Buy, staples etc etc etc, I can't travel at all (no boarding planes, train, boat), so no leaving the country for vacations, family visit etc... We still have a rule that says we can't have more than 8 people in the same house, and many other asinine rules all over the place...

Before the pandemic, I was financially stable, had the best friendships and relationships of my life, was physically and mental healthy, loved the place I lived, etc. Now I am broke, mentally and physically unwell (things other than/unrelated to covid), longing for valuable relationships, and hate the place I live. I got covid, and recovered quickly with no issues. Covid didn’t do this to me, the government did by locking down.

I’d love to hear your take on the decline of ICU beds since 2018 due to how the people in charge of them see them as a waste. Keep up the videos I’m so glad I found your channel :)

I just sent my state legislatures letters to limit government agencies from imposing draconian "emergency" measures. These failed government overreaches need to be reined in so it never happens again. Hopefully, this becomes a movement across the country. From what I see, people are waking up to these injustices. Top-down mandates have done more harm than anything the virus did.

Plz seek out medical leadership for our country, we need doctors like you to regain confidence in our healthcare system

Knowing what we know now, was the Barrington Declaration a better choice?

Hate to tell Chris this, but I don't feel that a well-off media personality's life is a fair litmus test for the average American experience. Virus or no virus.

The Care Act is the problem. Schools receive federal funding but in order to receive the funding, they have to comply with the stipulations such as contact tracing and sending kids home. So principals now spend their day doing contact tracing instead of doing their job. Counselors are handing out testing kits instead of doing their job. These policies are higher up than individual schools.

Fear Uncertainty Doubt FUD These are the three pillars of counterintelligence propaganda. This situation seems to have been custom built to exploit these things.

Thank you so much Dr Prasad, you have opened the eyes of so many people that were blindly following the media and gov mandates, all lies are slowly falling apart. Go truckers convoy !

The excess deaths report in Canada shows clearly that accidental poisonings (overdoses) is where the excess is. Not covid.

Thank you for exploring more side of these issues than the usual media from either side. As a public school teacher Pk -6 I a Title 1 school, I can tell you the insanity of our protocols will be crippling children for years to come.I lost 3 former students to suicide and drugs. I can't say for certain it was pandemic related but the social emotional state of all my students has been tragically different the past 2 years. For those Pk and kindergarten kids that is half their lives without normal socialization. I worry what super bugs we have created with all the sanitizing. I know it spiked my high BP working Ina mask, so what was happening to those oxygen deprived kids who were lethargic instead hyper like usual kids. So sad.

Ignoring the many who are recovered and therefore have powerful protection was a red flag for me...I do not want an injection that does not have a meaningful benefit for me (recovered) + the known and unknown risks is something I must consider.

A wonderful commentary; thank you for sharing. I certainly agree that many people are not ready to have a conversation around exactly what evidence supported the enforcement of these highly destructive political policies... However, that conversation is a seminal part of the discourse -- and I worry that we will not be having it in time...

Our response has caused this. But that's what we get for playing God and creating this in a lab, then thinking human interference would go any other way than it has since. We need to stop playing God.

Here in BC Canada, I find the mask wearing so amusing. Most people still wear the simple cloth or light blue/white 'surgical' masks which are are shown to be zero and 5% effective respectively. Some media reports are actually finally pointing this out. But when I go thru the drive thru at restaurants, who also have inside dining, I see those sitting down eating without the mask in place for obvious reasons but people who walk in for a pickup must and do wear a mask. It would all be hilarious if it wasn't so ridiculous. 😛😛😛😛

Damaging the young to protect a bunch of 80 yos.

What I find quite incredible is that no one asked the "anti-vaccers" if they had access to a traditional style vaccine ("dead virus vaccine") would they then get vaccinated. And that none of the big Pharma companies in the OECD (except France and Japan) made any effort to make traditional style vaccines which, if I am correctly informed, would have taken less time to produce than the mRNA vaccines AND without all the side effects which have only come to light AFTER the vaccines were rolled out, never mind the long term side effects which will become evident in the years to come.

You can know about what Would happen if the schools only had the sick child stay out and didn't test or anything... But you would have to check ask the private schools.. In the fall of 2020 we switched to a private school that did just that...and you may say that it's not comparable because private schools are smaller than public school, but I would argue that when public school went back in the fall of 2020 (in our same area), the classroom sizes were comparable because half of the kids remained virtual. Public school had masks, shields, plexiglass around their desks, etc... Our private school stressed cleanliness and communication. If you were sick, stay home. When we heard a kid had come down with covid, we were notified if they were in our classroom, and we all monitored our children to see if they had symptoms. We never had a major outbreak. In each classroom (of roughly 12 children), there were never more than two or three kids out at once for sickness. It wasn't and isn't that this private school didn't or doesn't care about covid or even spreading covid... The school just found a sensible answer. As for the local public school, they had to do completely virtual several times when originally they were scheduled for in-person classes. I can't say that it was because they had more outbreaks or just because of the policy. I can confidently say, my children are not behind in school because of this, but it's very upsetting knowing so many of their friends that couldn't afford to go to private school are.

I've been telling my associates this for the last few years now. The "virus" didn't cause this...the virus doesn't make policy or ill-informed decisions... We humans do.

Watching you go from 45k to over a 100k is good news, thanks for the updates. We appreciate you. I literally share every video you make.

You exactly laid out what was going on around me in minutes 2-4. A friend of mine with 2 kids in high school had 1 kid that had to stay home for 2 weeks because someone in his class got COVID. Her other kid could continue going to school and the administration didn't stop to think he'd have contact with his brother. Stupid.

Great video sir! All of this in combination are what a lot of us have seen and have protested against. Thank u. When i see ppl outdoors alone at a park with masks on, u can tell its a psychological trauma at this point over anything else

As a parent of a 7 year old with a learning disability, all I have is rage at this point. I'm going to go lift weights till I feel better about it.

Well, when you take into consideration that we funded the virus in the first place, I think you could call all virus effects a result of our own policies.

You should get Denis Rancourt on. His arguments echo the measures themselves are responsible for the majority of deaths. His arguments are backed by one of the most comprehensive statistical analysis done to date.

In Armstrong, BC, 7 of 300 elementary students were mask-exempt, and TEACHERS doing their fear-porn thing have "stayed home" and caused the school to shut down due to "lack of staffing". Teachers have become a real problem.

The level-headed approach is the best you are a great source of info you're not taking a side just common sense. Also, you are a Doctor with tons of experience very much appreciate your videos

We caused the disruptions.. We create polices that don't make sense. I would go further, policies are destroying lives not the virus per se. Vinay, I agree with you because I see the same.

I really appreciate how respectfully and humbly you approach the data you research and review. Its refreshing and I would hope our society and our politicians would begin to do the same. Cheers!

Love the energy from this guy.

Loved how you differentiated between what is being blamed on the Virus and what is actually just ‘blind and bad’ policies that people did. The virus is what it is, but we are responsible for how we respond to it. Much can be learned after 2 years and all the various reactions; now fair minded people needed to take ownership of what was just error in judgment. Time to learn and move on. Pity if all this and no one learns anything or is humbled.

Thanks for articulating this so well!

I read one of Carl Jung's books years ago where he compared the indulgence of European and American governments in populous protection. He stated Europe treats their populations as if they're rather stupid while (and admirably noting) America enshrines its population with every dignity of intelligence. Gustav Le Bon has already dispelled the notion that a Jury of 'sophisticated' jurors is better than the Rabble, it is not, the Rabble is as capable to make judgements as the self-inflated aristocracy.

GOD bless you Dr VINAY

11:23 yep it turns out, systematically suppressing information makes some people "feel as if" information is being suppressed!

Batt Sibrel has been saying this for a year and a half. He uses the metaphor as a car driver saying “I hit those people on the sidewalk because i had to swerve to miss a squirrel, it’s the squirrels fault” or something like that. Bart is a very smart guy

Excellent points about this spectrum of ever-changing, inconsistent policies -- which seldom are based on data driven, risk vs. benefit ratios. It's stunning that the majority of the US population still believes in most of what the official narratives, from only the sanctioned sources, continue spouting. And this 'follow the leader' persists even after 2 years of witnessing the consequential damage to our economy, and to many lives, wrought by said policies.

Great video, it's time to move on. Let people govern themselves. If you want to wear a N/K95 mask all day everywhere then do it. Just don't get mad when you see my smile.

Dr Vinay Prasad! I believe you might be a perfect person to have a discussion will the likes of Dr Robert Malone and Dr Peter McCullough. There is NOT enough scientific debate between those looking at the science and gaining different viewpoints. They are leaders in their standings and you are a leader in yours. Please please please make it happen because OUR world NEEDS this in long form!!

Vinay dropping that knowledge!

My son was sent home for 5 days due to "potiential exposure" makes the 2nd time this month, it is a struggle to keep up with his classwork. We "potientially" expose ourselves to everything and anything every day. When will we look at these ridiculous policies and realize they are more hurtful than helpful more-so with school-age children?

Thank you for always being so down to earth and so filled with common sense. I wish more Dr’s were like you. Thank you! ❤️🙏🏼

have been following your channel for a while now and in my opinion you have hit the nail square on the head. you pretty much laid it out , this is EXACTLY the point we are at

Thank you for mentioning Sweden. It is being ignored by regular "media", and I'm using that word loosely.

Thank you for this discussion. I have said since day one, covid did not do as much harm as the government policies did. And continue to do. Hoping more will see the difference.

It’s so nice to see Vinay finally coming around. Seeing him open his eyes to what we’ve been saying from the beginning is like watching your child master a new skill. I think he had the problem of been too intelligent for his own good when this started but the awakening is wonderful to see.

Huge respect to you, Mr Prasad, you are one of few sane voices in an utterly insane time. You can always say you spoke your truth, which is more than 99% of the 'useful idiots' in academia and corporate medicine...

An elegant analysis. Thank you!

“But when I would be out there alone, by myself on the western ridge, I would ask myself, why am I wearing this 🤣🤣🤣” Thank you Vinay! You are such a sage, intelligent being! It is so extremely comforting listening to your messages

How many Mistakes make a pattern of choices? Allen

LOVED this one! I was trying to make this exact point to people but I obviously don’t say it as well as you do because they just didn’t get the difference. Thanks again for sharing your perspective!

I soooo love your honesty and transparency. Good luck in everything you do.

Dr Prasad, thank you. I just discovered your channel. I am an RN who believes many of the things the CDC has done in this pandemic. But I have also been shocked by some recommendations by the CDC. Thank you for non political, critical thinking, evidence based assessment and analysis. We need our thought leaders to be…. Well very good and the best thought leaders. Thank you again.

I got covid the other day, the way I got it is my brother got it so I had to be quarantined because we live together. All I was thinking is why can't I stay somewhere else so I don't get it but the policies are that I have to stay in the house with him thus giving me covid 8 days later

Vinay has the patience of an angel taking anything from MSNBC seriuosly and discussing it so respectfully.

I admire Vinay's equanimity as he tries to articulate his frustration. People who are propelled by their fears have succeeded in foisting their idiotic plans on everyone else. Worse, even though their strategies have clearly backfired, the answer is even more madness. I correct people constantly when they blame disruption on "the virus-" it's our reaction that has done 10x damage.

Thank you for voicing a nuanced view. I’m in a similar position as a family physician. I also give voice to the benefits of vaccination, while also voicing concern for over reaching, unscientific policies and media spins.

Thank you Dr. for bringing up policy issues that affected all of america , please research on early treatment suppression . I need clarity on this for my family , thanks a bunch love your content.

Brilliant observation and ability to communicate! It's what we've all been thinking but you put it to voice. Thank you! God bless you and your family!

Thanks for your insight! I don’t care what Dr. V’s political views are. I feel he, for the most part, steers away from that. He’s always been upfront of where is political views lie. He also isn’t a liar and seems to give us the truth. I also love how data driven he is. There is truth in data for sure (as long as it’s not corrupt data).

I appreciate your insight. I'm not enthusiastic about the vax at all and the safety signals aren't suppressed so much as flat ignored. EUA, therapeutics downplayed, pharmacist not filling scrips, mixed messaging from the political/science class and general overrelyance on one solution was suspect, as well as obvious lying about the data.