Die Hard. "Jingle Bells, Hans Gruber Fell..." 

Fascinating 🥱

Not to mention self destructive substance abuse … a key facet of Christmas.

Family, redemption, reconciliation...

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I think Gene Hackman would have been a good alternative casting if they wanted to stick closer to the book.

With a Vengeance is my favorite. I love SLJ & Willis's chemistry as well as the New York setting. The Gruber brothers were played by terrific British actors.

he's the one that chucks the tantrum on learning McClaine killed his brother.

I've not seen it ever since it was on. My brother and I loved it. Just as it was starting our mum would bring us crackers and cheese every time. These days watching it there would probably be enough cheese in the show to feast on :)

Steven Seagal.

Thanks. And to you and your fam. Also, podcats.

an attempt to learn a bit of german in the early 90s pays off with a joke 20 years later.

@@StamFine I know how wrong it sounds, but the early 90s are now 30 years ago.

so, sounds like they lightened up the story not just a little, but a lot!

@@StamFine Yep, the end of that book will not prompt you to sing "Let it Snow".

"I keep on telling you, he's 82 years old and he's dead." I'd totally watch it, though.

It was due to the snow :)

Yeah but that then means you can't watch it unless it is christmas.

_"If Christmas is an integral part of the plot, it's a Christmas movie."_ Agreed. _"The story of Die Hard only occurs because it's Christmas."_ Disagree. The story occurs because there's an office party and thieves take over the tower while a cop is visiting his wife who works there. You could set it on the fourth of July and nothing in the plot, story, or characters within the movie would change.

@@TheNightBadger The only reason John is there is because it's Christmas. Christmas is an excuse to see his kids. If it wasn't such an important holiday, Holly wouldn't have to let him. The Nakatomi Building is only open for a Christmas party. Something that was very present in the corporate culture of the 80s. The company wouldn't throw a party on the same scale for any other holiday. The thieves, knowing that it is Christmas, explicitly choose that day. It would have been a perfect plan, if not for John. If you change the date/holiday, Die Hard can't happen. Christmas is critical to the basis of the plot.

@@SommersetStriker _"The only reason John is there is because it's Christmas. Christmas is an excuse to see his kids. If it wasn't such an important holiday, Holly wouldn't have to let him."_ It could have been a birthday. It could have been the 4th July. The audience wouldn't have cared, and the plot would happen just the same way. _"The Nakatomi Building is only open for a Christmas party. Something that was very present in the corporate culture of the 80s. The company wouldn't throw a party on the same scale for any other holiday."_ Again, make it 4th of July - a Japanese company recognising an important American holiday - it would have worked fine. _"The thieves, knowing that it is Christmas, explicitly choose that day. It would have been a perfect plan, if not for John."_ The Police, the Feds - they all turn up in good time. It being Christmas made no difference. The chauffeur even waited in the car park. _"If you change the date/holiday, Die Hard can't happen. Christmas is critical to the basis of the plot."_ No it isn't. It's incidental. John coming home for his kids birthday and the company celebrating winning a big deal would have worked just as well - none of it impacts the audience, because it's an action movie about a heist gone wrong. I could literally edit out any and all references to Christmas, and play someone the movie and they wouldn't be able to tell it was set at Christmas - and it wouldn't impact the level of entertainment of the film.

@@TheNightBadger I disagree with you. I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the film and it's themes.

No takers so far I see. 😂

@@Robert-tl2vg There's only one person included in this invitation, but thanks for your input.

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Agree with you about lethal weapon

I don't think it's as christmassy a movie as Home Alone, yet like that movie, I wouldn't feel right watching Die Hard when it isn't Christmas.

It’s a Christmas movie for that week after Christmas when I’m sick of Christmas.

Stam: u listed several films set at Christmas but isn’t considered a Christmas movies…odd right?

Not a very reliable source on the subject

Certainly you’re more intelligent than Obama is

I've tried to watch 4 but didn't get very far.

@@6581punk That's OK. I think everyone can agree about the fifth one 🙄😂👍

Yep, 1 and 3 are the best by far. I enjoy 2 but it's basically the first film without the tense, claustrophobic setting or the awesome villain.