Diesel vs Jet Dragster Race - Closer Than You Think!

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Nitro Madness at Texas Motorplex featured this wacky match race between a diesel dragster and a jet dragster. It's rolling coal vs kerosene! The diesel dragster had a few hiccups in testing and the early match races, but the final was a close fought race. That jet was really whistlin. Let me know in the comments which one would you rather have in your garage?
If you missed the Nitro Madness drag race (which included Funny Car Chaos and the Outlaw Fuel Altered Association), you need to have it on your calendar for next year. It's different to the NHRA events, but super special in its own way. Were you there this year?
0:00 Intro
0:17 Diesel Dragster Testing
3:00 Diesel vs Jet Round One
4:22 Diesel vs Jet Round Two
5:35 Diesel vs Jet Final

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@pyalot Год назад

Diesel: I like turbo, so I put a turbo on my turbo. Jet: I like turbo so much I removed the rest of the engine.

@GioJonnhyK 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂❤😂❤😂❤❤❤

@OregonCrow 2 дня назад

You: weirdo old man.

@mihalis1010 Год назад

The torque that diesel one has is incredible. I wonder how they made axles for it that don't just instantly snap.

@bobbabai Год назад

How do they make axles for the nitromethane top fuel dragsters which create a lot more torque AND a lot more horsepower?

@BENZOALBANEZ Год назад

Adamantid materials

@1scarewolf Год назад

Torque flex optimization. Just like when drag slicks twist and wind up. Clutch slippage works the same. Glad you guys appreciate that!

@rev9fan1 Год назад

The flex in the tire really absorbs the shock, then sling shots the car out of the hole.

@Gizamalukeix Год назад

But they do have to rebuild the engines after near every run.

@Fleetingsongs 3 года назад

Ah, I can smell the fresh pure air these green vehicles emit wafting thru my computer screen, invigorating my senses.

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

The hydrocarbons have gotten to you...

@Fleetingsongs 3 года назад

@@LivingNitro that probably explains the fairies & butterflies I saw fluttering around

@despizedicon 2 года назад

you said wafting?

@yoslauda4714 Год назад

That little karen who cares about Greenpeace will happy about this one, dude🤣🤣

@jankington216 Год назад

@Daniel Sell They could do it if they could cool the engine without running extremely rich

@TheoneGodfather 3 года назад

Redeemed themselves with that last run. Well done.

@lonelyplanet1080 3 года назад

Yeah they did!!👍..I wish I was there

@cpark1570 2 года назад

A top end shot of that final race would’ve been epic

@Rondo2ooo 9 месяцев назад

The smoke from that night was responsible for the upcoming cold winter...😁

@TheWildChildJr 3 года назад

for those who dont know, im sure these guys do but a Jet car does not have actual power. This means that the Dragster obviously has the motor, driveshaft and all that which is what works the rear tires, and has the instant launch when you stomp the pedal, but a Jet Car doesnt. this is why it takes so long and why they dont always win races because it takes a little bit for the jet to actually produce thrust and then stay there.

@carloleoni4843 Год назад

Yeah but this one its real slug since the start

@AxiomofDiscord Год назад

@@carloleoni4843 More distance would change everything. Well granted if they carry enough fuel as well.

@samspence7008 Год назад

Another way to say it is, the jet dragster makes no torque. Though its a vague way to say it.

@reesesalen5033 Год назад

The turbines are spooled up ready to go. Jet cars can launch as hard as their brakes can hold them on the starting line

@paradiselost9946 Год назад

The diesel has torque of varying value across a limited rpm range, and that power has to be transferred to wheels, and finally the limit being the grip they have with the tarmac. Needs weight, and needs power to accelerate that weight... catch22. The turbine makes a constant push. Say 100kg of thrust. A 1000kg vehicle would accelerate at 0.1g. With 1000kg of thrust, 1g. Ignore friction... And that push, that acceleration rate, continues. Regardless of speed. Its logarithmic. Just like falling. Every second, faster than before...

@Dreamtimesail 3 года назад

Very cool to see something different like this. We first saw diesel powered cars on the strip in Malta when we were there back in 2012 and really enjoyed the variety.

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

I hear the drag racing scene in Malta is crazy!

@Dreamtimesail 3 года назад

@@LivingNitro It was a very pleasant surprise. Really friendly people too.

@nigelgunn322 Год назад

You'll also see Wankels racing there.

@dmeemd7787 3 года назад

Super glad that Ray and John are still doing this at FCC. awesome!!

@peterthornton2396 Год назад

You can feel that jet engine when near them. Miss the drag race days

@richboymuniz6746 2 года назад

Impressive how a diesel dragster can still catch up with a jet dragster

@disngager 2 года назад

Uh, I guess. Top is Top fuel for a reason.

@Smzxe Год назад

Imagine if it was a petrol dragster rip both dragsters

@TheSingularNextuz Год назад

Jet dragster? Is that even a thing? Rocket with four wheels that tries to look as a dragster... What is the wheel power of that thinge?

@lilu2580 Год назад

@@Smzxe literally 😂 but there is a thing petrol engines have low torque output hence they have to increase the rpms and that will spin the wheels like crazy, so inturn the petrol driver will have tought time to manage the perfect powerband

@Smzxe Год назад

@@lilu2580 I know petrol dragsters have less torque But still they are faster than diesel ones Those dragsters don't use petrol they use more like E85 ethenol whatever that is And Petrol cars are much faster than diesel ones

@yadidimeanmaine 3 года назад

Watching jet cars stage is awesome, and the backhalf is incredible, but the sound of one launching is something that perhaps only exotic bird owners would appreciate. It's like fingernails on a chalkboard through twin bullhorns directly in your ears.

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

Gets some weird harmonics or something through the afterburner cone for sure!

@kevinmills5293 Год назад

A bit more exciting than watching a Tesla model S plaid staging.

@peanuts2105 Год назад

@Kevin Mills my boys remote control car is more interesting than a Tesla

@teijaflink2226 10 месяцев назад

I love the sound of a jet.

@grandwizard9088 Год назад

Unreal 💪🇺🇸👊..... Never knew a diesel could compete in the high HP game, really fun to watch 👌

@austinferrari6745 Год назад

Diesels can handle more horsepower than gas engines….

@REWYRED Год назад

Diesels are not what they used to be... Even in your standard pickup from any of the big 3 they make some pretty respectable numbers. Numbers unheard of back when diesel pickups were just gaining popularity.

@kaihorstmann2783 Год назад

Diesels and diesel hybrids are the winners now at the 24 hours of Le Mans. Gas cars cannot compete because they need so much more fuel stops. Don‘t forget for diesels the upper limit of boost pressure and power is how much the engine can bear. There is no knocking issue, at high compression ratios and boost pressure like in gas cars.

@PistonAvatarGuy Год назад

@@austinferrari6745 Name one ~10,000 hp, ~8 liter diesel engine.

@PistonAvatarGuy Год назад

@@kaihorstmann2783 The current gasoline hybrids are significantly faster than any of those diesels. A Toyota gasoline/electric hybrid currently holds the lap record at Le Mans. Seriously, have you been living under a rock for the past 13 years?

@neilreid9005 3 года назад

Really fun to watch. I saw a pair of jet dragsters at Cleetus and Cars a couple weeks ago in Houston- they were hitting 275 mph at the top end.

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

I’ve loved jet cars since I was a kid. I still get a kick out of seeing them.

@snap-off5383 2 года назад

NHRA limits jet cars to 300mph even though the let the Top Fuel cars go faster.

@snap-off5383 2 года назад

@@pfizerlanciarally037bionte5 They can do it in USA too, the only reason you don't see it is the NHRA mandates that tracks they bring their fans and money to don't allow "faster than NHRA" racing.

@GrowthCurveMarketing 6 месяцев назад

So fun to watch someone pushing diesel to its limit. They run NA at around 20:1 and this guys probably pushing more than an atmosphere on top of that. Amazing.

@mickmccasker6401 4 месяца назад

"this guys probably pushing more than an atmosphere on top of that" lol try 5-6 atmospheres and you're closer

@nobux717 2 года назад

Maybe they will come out soon with a steam powered dragster.

@Notinuseanymore0203 Год назад

Rip the environment then…

@artemfilatov8161 Год назад

steam turbine dragster))

@samspence7008 Год назад

That would be incredibly heavy

@seth094978 Год назад

The rocket cars from decades ago turned peroxide into 2 parts steam and one part oxygen to create thrust, so there sort of have been steam powered dragsters.

@Joe-sn6ir Год назад

@@Notinuseanymore0203 RIP your intelligence...if you ever had any. O.o

@dede5185 Год назад

This is the craziest drag racing I ever seen 👀

@MainMite06 Год назад

OMG this is insane, who put this together?! *A super-tractor dragster vs a fighter-jet dragster on the same track* INSANITY

@mikemoore7245 Год назад

That would have been cool to see in person but even here it was awesome!

@darrell8167 Год назад

Absolutely incredible I have never seen a diesel dragster... badass

@angelcano2559 Год назад

Simplemente épico, una batalla entre dos titanes

@SpaghettiBreaker 2 года назад

Feel like this race would have been totally different if that was a top fuel dragster Kinda weird seeing a dragster without a wheelie bar

@LivingNitro 2 года назад

Yeah nitro would be a different matter.

@zion19821 Год назад

@Jason Layne . *\0/*O_*\0O_o

@Godsoldiergaming Год назад

@@LivingNitro not really the nitro would be quicker but the jet has a much higher top speed

@skylerjr2648 Год назад

Not really. Top fuel is just shy of 340 mph. Jet dragsters are in the same range. Limited by the distance and the top fuel destroying itself in the first second of the run (spark plugs are fried, the clutch is fused, they lose a piston before finished, etc). Safety of the drivers is the main reason. Regulation won't let them go much faster. We could have 400+ mph races without turbojet/ rockets.

@chadkent1241 7 месяцев назад

@Godsoldiergaming not even close. No jet dragster is anywhere near 339 mph in 1,000 ft or 300.8 mph in 2.93 seconds in the 1/8.

@MoxieMike66 2 года назад

I remember when jets used to match race Nitro FC's & Dragsters as well as TA/FC's & Dragsters. Then again, I remember when my dad & his buddies ran a FE BB/GD. So yeah, I'm a little old. 🙂

@jeffbarton6102 Год назад

I worked at a track up here in Manitoba Canada and was standing in the staging lanes behind the Jets cars and whenever they do those short bursts it feels like getting punched in the chest and i was far behind them. Blink and ya miss the race. Crazy

@kevenkullberg9955 Год назад

Johnny’s gonna need bigger slicks he can’t contain the torque that Diesel is putting out on those tiny little slicks! Unbelievable!

@juzzlookin Год назад

..and the rpm makes the central flat section rounded, so the whole tyre design concept needs an upgrade...

@kelainefes Год назад

@@juzzlookin That is by design. The tire is soft and elastic on purpose so that its diameter increases together with the speed, effectively acting as continuously variable gearbox.

@gkcmgk Год назад

If you make the tires thicker or bigger, there will be more ground contact area at high speeds..which will slow down the vehicle.also weight gonna increase and momentum of tire will change..those tires doing their job pretty well..no need to be bigger..

@PistonAvatarGuy Год назад

Diesels don't make s--t for torque when compared to the spark-ignited engines normally used in dragsters.

@GetPooodOn 3 года назад

That screams Merica. Three screaming eagles were born at this moment.

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

Freedom!

@tesmith47 Год назад

Yeah,but our kids will pat

@beaner2907 9 месяцев назад

Would've loved to be there to see this! Thanks for sharing!

@DancerOfClouds Год назад

Who would have thought a diesel could be that close. WOW!!

@theorderofthepurplephoenix3321 8 месяцев назад

They must’ve geared it really high

@Aerotk Месяц назад

Pollution has left the chat

@danf1862 Год назад

If they're using JP8 in the jet car, then they're both diesel powered engines. So badass!

@mekt0r 3 месяца назад

When I saw the "cannonball express" (jet dragster) in person: I talked with the team and driver. They were running #2 diesel in it. Said they burn about 30-35 gallons per run of diesel....Of course most of it is from showing off with smoke and afterburner before getting up to the tree. Jet fuel is basically just high cetane diesel stripped of the lubricity and green/red dye. A diesel engine will run on it, but it will likely destroy the injectors and injection pump over time due to lack of lubrication in the fuel.

@JoshuaTootell 3 месяца назад

My last ship had dual propulsion, meaning diesels and gas turbines. We ran the same fuel through both. Either regular diesel, or JP5.

@K-Effect 3 месяца назад

In person that must’ve been an all out assault on the senses!

@MattLitkeRacing 3 года назад

Diesel car looks like a pain to stage

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

Yeah, it seemed to be tough to creep it into the beams.

@gerhardpopl2234 3 года назад

That's funny. The diesel has to transfer power to the road via the wheels. The jet turbine just pushes. I love black-smoking diesels.

@MERICANMOTO 2 года назад

Sign: this parking spot is for green vehicles only. Green top fuel dragster: how nice of them to make a parking spot just for me!

@andyharman3022 Год назад

Jade Grenade is my idea of a green top fueler.

@dublkrossr2059 Месяц назад

That diesel dragster just ate enough oxygen to feed 13 people lol Worth it!!

@chrisdaniel1339 Год назад

The jet dragsters are so simple, no transmission, no gears, just a huge turbojet engine a lightweight chassis and 20 ft of flames coming from the back end. That would be a fun ride.

@danmyers9372 Год назад

1/8th mile clearly is to the advantage of the diesel. The jet would start walking the diesel from the 1/8 th to the 1/4.

@kevenkullberg9955 Год назад

There’s always an excuse from a Chevy guy!

@natalotto2006 3 года назад

That was awesome to watch 👍

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

Thanks Daniel! it looked cool with all the fireworks etc too!

@916chevyboy 3 месяца назад

That was the freakn Best🎉😮❤

@neildisley7779 21 день назад

The torque generated by the diesel dragster is crazy, thought it would snap the axle 💥

@whatthe9078 Год назад

If this was on a runway, i think the jet would be long gone.

@DragRacingandCarStuff 3 года назад

That's so sick! 5:41 something was red hot.

@LocomotiveBreth 3 года назад

I saw that too. Looks like the brake rotor

@LivingNitro 3 года назад

I never noticed that. I agree, it looks like a brake rotor.

@gullreefclub 3 года назад

Its is a the brake rotor and the reason why is during a burnout to keep the turbo spooled up the driver has to apply the brake to provide resistance against the engine other wise the engine / turbo would fall flat on its face

@LocomotiveBreth 3 года назад

@@gullreefclub Makes sense but I sure as hell wouldn’t want to depend on those pads and rotors after doing that a time or two.

@happycanayjian1582 Год назад

Amazing that the jet dragster, despite having no direct power being put down to the ground, can keep up with the diesel. While jets are decent in acceleration, it’s their top end that ICE engines could never, ever match. Jet engines provide a relentless push from behind.

@chrisolsen5280 2 месяца назад

Happened just like I thought. That jet engine could have done that all night long as long as you brought enough fuel. What's even more interesting, is the jet did that without any mechanical connection to the tarmac. It took talent to control that torque at the tree! His brakes where glowing on that last burnout! (I think it was his brakes?)

@akosabraham7914 3 года назад

How high do these engines rev? Most diesels have they max tq at 1500-2000 and top out at 4000-4500. I wonder what a dyno graph on one of those looks like

@TheBasstead1 3 года назад

They are likely getting more than 4500 RPM, but not much more. They are taking advantage of torque placed on high gears and clutch assemblies to get that diesel moving fast.

@mytmousemalibu 2 года назад

Upwards of 5000-6000rpm on real high power, built diesels. Sled pullers zing some pretty good revs on their diesels too. Depends on what engine. You can generally get a Duramax to rev higher than a Cummins for example but im sure some sing pretty good. The factory redline of my Mercedes OM606 is 6000 revs and with a built pump will easily eclipse that.

@LcFan96 Год назад

5-6k rpm, performance diesels with built pumps and injectors easily can do that. most street cars dont, because its too much mechanical stress, also most diesel street cars engines are built for low end power rather than high end power

@Godsoldiergaming Год назад

This is likely over 7.5k rpm as there are diesel drag trucks that rev well over 7.5k

@xlh1450 2 года назад

Why does it look like one of the rear discs on the diesel dragster is glowing hot on the last pass, when he's doing his burnout?

@Toasted_Beans Год назад

Hard to choose wich one is more badass

@peteharder6325 Год назад

1:35-140 you try that on a top fuel and it'd be a blown engine. Diesel is life!

@JDeubel 3 года назад

Well I bet you they both smell the same diesel raising diesel lol

@shorty4lyf8 2 года назад

Cool race, just imagine one of those in the UK maybe they’d let me keep my 1.5l fiesta xD

@jarvarismatthews4639 Год назад

this is probably the coolest thing i’ll see today

@snap-off5383 2 года назад

Wow amazing how less powerful a fuel diesel is than even Methanol. Fun fact: gasoline actually has a higher energy density than the nitromethane that the top fuel dragsters and funny cars burn, the reason they get more POWER from the nitromethane is that within that fuel comes more oxygen so its not just the oxygen in the air, but also in the fuel that contributes to combustion power. Knowing that, now imagine the forest fires in the time we can use insect fossils to prove the atmosphere wasn't 23% oxygen like now, but rather closer to *50%!* Those fires must have been AMAZING.

@dirtdiggler9293 Год назад

Giant trees 🌲

@OJB42 Год назад

OMG, that is insane. Love it! How much fuel do those things use for one run? Actually, I think I saw Greta in the crowd. She was loving it!

@simonbarber5440 11 месяцев назад

Bio-diesel for one car, liquid hydrogen for the other - what's the problem?

@OJB42 11 месяцев назад

@@simonbarber5440 That's not what they were using though, right? Still, we could say it was, if it makes Greta happy! :)

@justlooking6898 2 месяца назад

Diesel vs Jet - I had not thought of that - Burnout vs just Burn! BlackSmoke/WhiteSmoke. The last run made up for the long wait and the video was really, really good. Surprising, the #s at the end! 🤪😍🤩

@carstenpfundt 5 месяцев назад

That jet sound is of another world

@nia79nia Год назад

do these engines run with a catalytic converter?

@moparty4409 Год назад

No I don't know how you could fit one on a jet engine.

@user-bl3xi2bi6w Год назад

Очень эпично 👍👍🔥

@justagamer182 Год назад

imagine a runaway dragster

@_Lineman_ 2 месяца назад

Diesel: LOOK HOW SMOKEY I AM!!! Jet: Hold my beer...

@jamielancaster01 2 года назад

At a quarter mile that jet is just starting to go fast - if they raced a half mile it would be no contest.

@jrhanna7485 Год назад

The cars really aren't designed to go half a mile, the chassis' and other components would really be pushed to their limits safety wise.

@jamesinson3488 Год назад

I think his quarter mile time was faster than his reaction time on that first pass 😂

@PistonAvatarGuy Год назад

1/8th mile.

@EL_FEDERAL_252 Год назад

How dare you?!?! 🤣🤣

@kapu4369 3 месяца назад

The amount of polar bears that just drowned because of that event. 😅😂

@allencastleman7617 9 месяцев назад

A diesel dragster...? Now I've seen everything. But it was damn close.

@theorderofthepurplephoenix3321 8 месяцев назад

They must have geared it up

@asnawimochtar7661 2 года назад

That was so close. Even you cant see the defreant with naked eyes.

@user-qi8sm2tn7k 5 дней назад

that deisel dragster could probably pull the moon 💀

@gregpeacock5497 2 года назад

Back in the late 80's I saw the tri-engine jet semi Shockwave run at the Texas Motorplex. When we spoke to them we found out they ran their jet engines on diesel.

@LivingNitro 2 года назад

There's all kinds of things they can run them on, pretty cool!

@crispyshaman4937 Год назад

@@LivingNitro yeah a jet engine is a type of turbine engine usually aren't nitpicky on fuel. They can run on prety much anything flamable

@juliusfucik4011 Год назад

Kerosene is actually a less refined product than diesel.

@kaihorstmann2783 Год назад

Jet-A kerosene is essentially a narrower refined diesel. You need that e.g. for the low temperatures (~-50 deg at altitude). Conversely you can run any Diesel engine on jet-A.

@luke144 Год назад

Damn. That was way closer than I thought was possible. I thought the jet car had it in the bag.

@DavidGarland-ur5ld 4 месяца назад

Haha, I live here. I couldn't breath after this for like an hour

@Amberstargazerofearth Год назад

Jet dragster is actually a jet rocket, it doesn't need any wheels, only wings ) very impressive!

@ITStechy 2 месяца назад

Creating large cloud formations at will 😂

@alhowell4732 11 месяцев назад

WOW, that was very close !! 😮

@michaelgimenez4032 Год назад

Diesel: "Mine was 4.277, hiw was yours?" Turbine: "4.244." Diesel: "Man you won by years at this point". Me: My latest upgrade got me to 13.7 second on the last run!

@cpark1570 9 месяцев назад

The finish line view would have been wild for this race

@loganb420 Год назад

5:39 look at the diesels back tires going so fast that they are glowing inside the rim LOL

@AvStevieStevenJamesDrums Год назад

That was BAD ASS!!!

@josedaza4151 Год назад

Era hacer un drag racing no una nave espacial jajaja buen video

@HSEmusic 6 месяцев назад

The jet and diesel look more terrifying than the nitro dragsters ngl

@joeydusek3841 Год назад

Is totally the best run I've ever seen

@georgehubbard6876 4 месяца назад

Wow! I'm ashamed to say that I've never seen a diesel rail before. Too friggin cool

@greigsanderson Год назад

Lovely fresh air

@SoylentGamer 9 месяцев назад

One is burning in the cylinders, the other is burning in the "turbo"

@surfstarcc1 2 года назад

White smoke versus black smoke!

@michaelpatz9365 Год назад

They both raced all night long and left less pollution then 1 ev car fire,

@theorderofthepurplephoenix3321 8 месяцев назад

LOL

@danielbenke2057 Год назад

Ahhh those decibels pure heaven to the drivers

@jakehildebrand1824 9 месяцев назад

You can beat the jet car off the line, but its still gonna leave you in its dust

@kresimirmilisa5560 2 года назад

very nice at the same time they accelerated good video.

@ChronicGames Год назад

That is insane! 🤟🏻

@timheersma4708 3 месяца назад

That's some high fallutin, lung pollutin entertainment there 🤣

@johnhenry2265 3 месяца назад

Elvis has left the building 😮

@Rondo2ooo Месяц назад

I still see the smoke here, half the globe away, after 3 years😅

@peternorthe1912 4 месяца назад

You need one helluva brazing rod for that torch!

@jittychitty Год назад

Didn't expect that!

@paulkubick8480 4 месяца назад

Crazy, they both burn the same fuel.

@derekderek2570 3 месяца назад

I can smell the freedom from here

@bobbyagee3796 2 месяца назад

The weight to horsepower ratio is insane. Imagine the g loads

@Reprinceff1 Год назад

Думал видос так не о чем! Но финал все расставил по местам! Весьма не ожиданный результат

@williamsara5565 Год назад

Bro the thing was still spinning tyres down the straight..love it

@stephenobrien1505 Год назад

33 one hundredths of a second…less than one third of one second!! WOW!!!

@CaptainKedah 3 месяца назад

This is High Quality Pollution. First Grade Hydrocarbons Pollution lol

@ckmoore101 3 месяца назад

Insane thing is, the peroxide dragster would smoke them all, by over 2 seconds