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Difference Between Rokinon Cine DS and Non-DS Rokinon Cine Lenses 

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@jobn3888
@jobn3888 5 лет назад
I’ve been looking for this information for days. THANK YOU.
@tycooper7780
@tycooper7780 7 лет назад
Would you mind showing footage shot with the rokinon line?
@trevorpinnocky
@trevorpinnocky 8 лет назад
man.. that is a sexy rig...
@Onpex
@Onpex 7 лет назад
Damn right !
@huyked
@huyked 8 лет назад
I don't know if there is a test online, but I think it'd be a good resource to compare the look of the DS vs. non-DS lenses, to see if there really is a difference in consistency in color, or if it's really just marketing. Have you done that with the 35mm lens, since you have both versions?
@gabrielsoto7993
@gabrielsoto7993 6 лет назад
This video was super insightful! Thank you!
@AndrewSun15
@AndrewSun15 8 лет назад
I'm looking to invest in more lenses I have about a $1,400 currently from a commercial and I'm getting another $500 from a convention I did. Now I mention this because I could either just buy the other Rokinon or get the DS line and wait for the next pay check. (Which is what I will do) and I wasn't sure the difference but I thank you for posting this and I'm very excited
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 8 лет назад
+AndrewSun15 There are more lens choices in the 'DS Line'. Optically they might be close, but I want to say the first Cine version was a bit rushed, and the DS LINE is where they started making them the right way. It seems they pretty much stopped expanding on the first versions.
@PeacePham1991
@PeacePham1991 4 года назад
Thank you for the video. Is there any difference in term of image quality (contrast, clarity, sharpness)?
@StillPictureProduction
@StillPictureProduction 8 лет назад
Thanks for the video. I was hoping to see if they have different throws between the ds vs non ds.
@antonv.
@antonv. 7 лет назад
thanks
@geonerd
@geonerd 4 года назад
THANK YOU. The Rok page is a little vague.... :)
@2365Films
@2365Films 8 лет назад
Great video Emm. LOVE the new background! Is that a Shoot35 Follow Focus?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 8 лет назад
+Joseph Jobe That is a Dual Follow Focus from SHAPE: www.shapewlb.com/en/product/products/accessories/follow-focus/follow-focus-pro-full-kit_354.aspx?id_page_parent=134 Also the background was something I wanted to test out. Just a vinyl image that you stick on the wall.
@JoshTheFixerMwesigwa
@JoshTheFixerMwesigwa 8 лет назад
Thanks +MrCheesyCam. This saves me the razzmatazz with the bots at B&H. Bless you!
@davidwatson4505
@davidwatson4505 7 лет назад
Great Video..Like the Rig you have there. What company makes that rig and the focus wheel?
@MichaelBallif
@MichaelBallif 7 лет назад
Thanks for the solid info as always Mr. Cheesy Cam. Question - which shoulder rig attachment do you have on that rig? I was unable to find it on the came-tv website. Is it another brand?
@IrreverentSOB
@IrreverentSOB 6 лет назад
excellent review, thanks man !
@michaelspear5016
@michaelspear5016 7 лет назад
Can you post a shopping list for your rig? That is exactly what I want for my work. Thanks!
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
You will find most of it here: www.came-tv.com/collections/rig-for-a7sii-a7rii-came-tv
@danield.teolijr.archivalco688
@danield.teolijr.archivalco688 5 лет назад
Thanks, very helpful.
@SVELFARO
@SVELFARO 8 лет назад
Thanks for pointing out those features. Just went to your link, that's a lot of glass for just under $2K
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 8 лет назад
+elfaroproductions Seriously. One Canon L lens can pay for a whole set of these. Lots of benefits to using the Cine DS over autofocus lenses when shooting video. I now own more Rokinon (and XEEN) cine lenses than any other brand. If you're a pixel peeper these aren't the best, but for most people and client work, it's damn good.
@SVELFARO
@SVELFARO 8 лет назад
+MrCheesyCam I agree a ton of good of glass for the money.
@Ladderwalker
@Ladderwalker 8 лет назад
+MrCheesyCam Bought the DS 10mm instead of the standard one. Thanks for such a great video on this very specific topic! I have a black magic cinema camera, so having a lens as sharp as possible is key since I have a 2.2x crop factor or something (so, a slightly soft lens looks extra soft). If you have any recommendations for primes that are extra sharp in the center, please let me know! Like 20mm, 24mm, maybe 35mm range.
@TheshayWest
@TheshayWest 7 лет назад
What did you shoot the video with! It's amazing.
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
Sony A7SII
@lanceevans1689
@lanceevans1689 5 лет назад
Very nice, thanks!
@ericlochstampfor6545
@ericlochstampfor6545 4 года назад
I also see Rokinon ED AS IF UMC Cine lenses. Are those different than these and if so how and why?
@user-id4sx9oi7l
@user-id4sx9oi7l 6 лет назад
Neat and sweet video quality.and awesome reviews.Can you please suggest which is the best professional prime lens for Nikon D7200?i mean in terms of best quality and overall features and making.
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 6 лет назад
Nikon makes the best Prime lenses for Nikon cameras. It all depends what you want to spend. I chose Rokinon as a base kit of lenses, but I own other specialty lenses also.
@user-id4sx9oi7l
@user-id4sx9oi7l 6 лет назад
MrCheesyCam yes i am asking about rokinon prime lenses for Nikon D 7200.please suggest which is the best Rokinon prime lenses for nikon D7200
@tomcallahan6716
@tomcallahan6716 5 лет назад
Thank you for this video! Could you tell me how to figure out the filter thread for the 10mm DS EF mount lens?
@AK-zt1mo
@AK-zt1mo 8 лет назад
Great comparison video. What is the rig brand you are using and the follow focus? it looks solid Thans
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 8 лет назад
+Ashor K The Rig is a bunch of different parts put together. Carbon rods from PVGear.com Handles are part of the cage (normally) but I've mounted them on the rails. The Sony cage is from CAME-TV.com The follow focus is a Professional Dual Follow Focus from SHAPE: www.shapewlb.com/en/product/products/accessories/follow-focus/follow-focus-pro-full-kit_354.aspx?id_page_parent=134
@AK-zt1mo
@AK-zt1mo 8 лет назад
+MrCheesyCam Thank you man
@PICSLZ
@PICSLZ 6 лет назад
i wanna buy the rokinon 100mm macro for my a6500. there is a DS CINE version which is 490$ and there is the non CINE version which is 550$. I'm wondering which one to buy and why the non CINE is 60$ expensive than the CINE that makes no sense !
@cwiklolo
@cwiklolo 7 лет назад
Thanks for the info! You said the DS lenses in general have better quality. Do you have side by side footage for comparison between the DS and non DS at the same focal length?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
No sorry, but it is mainly lens coatings I heard that make them different. Lens coatings can control things like lens flare which could reduce contrast or sharpness.
@cwiklolo
@cwiklolo 7 лет назад
Ah, ok, thanks for the insight! Also, do you happen to know what DS stands for? I've had a hard time finding it. Thx!
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
Lol. No sorry I don't know what DS stands for. Interesting question though..
@tcine
@tcine 6 лет назад
I believe the DS stands for DUAL SIDE for the lens markings.
@christiangrace2566
@christiangrace2566 6 лет назад
Tony Chiu its actually Dual Scale
@eirikskarstein9964
@eirikskarstein9964 8 лет назад
Do you have a post on your setup in this video? is that an audio box on top? Rig looks nice
@rakotondrasoahary5795
@rakotondrasoahary5795 6 лет назад
I have Nikon d5500 but I like this lens, can I use adapter or not ?
@jerrimaracuna5421
@jerrimaracuna5421 8 лет назад
Hi Emil, Ive noticed you're still using canon mounts for the sony body, is there a reason you didnt get the native mounts. Im assumg so you're not tied down into one system for freedom and flexibility? Also are the sony mount rokinon lenses longer than the canon ones because they're incorporating the mounts with the lens?
@wi3542
@wi3542 6 лет назад
it could be that they just prefer canon glass . most people agree they have the best
@thatcherfreeman
@thatcherfreeman 6 лет назад
The longer flange distance of canon EF mount lenses means that if he gets a different camera body, it's highly likely he can adapt his lenses to it. The Sony E mount can't be adapted to any other system other than those Kinefinity cameras. The main reason to get Sony native lenses for a Sony body is to improve autofocus performance. Considering that these are all manual lenses, getting them in the Sony mount would only be a negative down the line because there would be no real benefit and he would not be able to reuse the lens on other systems.
@GHOLLA718
@GHOLLA718 8 лет назад
Hey, can you do a video about the Came-TV Argo? I'm waiting for your review before I buy. #YouDaMan
@ChindiLife
@ChindiLife 5 лет назад
Hi I have Sony a7r3 body is this lens computable or have to use mount if so let me suggest the mount type
@andygraphx
@andygraphx 7 лет назад
I'm torn between Rokinon DS & Zeiss Loxia for video. Need to buy all new primes for my Sony a7sii. Do these allow for Sonys focusing features and peaking?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
Rokinon DS is manual so won't autofocus, but it does work with focus peaking.
@QuantayPeoples
@QuantayPeoples 4 года назад
What? No footage comparison???
@user-id4sx9oi7l
@user-id4sx9oi7l 6 лет назад
Can i get this Follow focus gear for Nikon D7200?i am looking for the same model
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 6 лет назад
You can use any follow focus with a Nikon, as long as you set up your lens to work with a follow focus system.
@user-id4sx9oi7l
@user-id4sx9oi7l 6 лет назад
MrCheesyCam where can i buy ur kind of follow focus gear?i am in love with your follow focus gear.planning to buy the same product.where can i get it?please name the product and model no.
@user-id4sx9oi7l
@user-id4sx9oi7l 6 лет назад
MrCheesyCam and also suggest me which are the best ROKINON PRIME LENSES that i can us e with Nikon D7200?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 6 лет назад
It's a dual follow focus system from Shape. www.shapewlb.com/en/follow-focus.aspx
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 6 лет назад
If you want Rokinon Prime Lenses for Video, look for the Cine DS lenses (as seen in this video). There is no autofocus for the CineDS lenses.
@philsaunter1956
@philsaunter1956 8 лет назад
Is there a difference with focus breathing ?
@dacolonrippa7186
@dacolonrippa7186 4 года назад
where'd you get the gear man?
@HJBProductionsLLC
@HJBProductionsLLC 6 лет назад
What make of follow focus you're using?
@microdoulo2250
@microdoulo2250 7 лет назад
Hello Sr, How long can I shooting video? 3,4 feet etc?
@kerembeyazit
@kerembeyazit 8 лет назад
Which camera use for this video?
@drrrw
@drrrw 6 лет назад
are the filter thread sizes standard in all DS line of lenses? i have my 85mm with 72mm thread and wonder if all the other lenses are in 72mm thread diameter? thanks for the reponse.
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 6 лет назад
Most are the same. There are some lenses that are smaller than 77mm
@michaelduong8142
@michaelduong8142 5 лет назад
What follow focus do you have on your rig?
@TheJoecoool
@TheJoecoool 3 года назад
for me the Non-DS Rokinon is better
@OrianIglesias
@OrianIglesias 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@TheTonyaTraylorCollection
@TheTonyaTraylorCollection 8 лет назад
awesome review. Thank you
@lrave17
@lrave17 7 лет назад
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT BEAUTIFUL RIG?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
Most of this rig you'll find at came-tv.com under Sony Rigs...
@microdoulo2250
@microdoulo2250 7 лет назад
Hello, The Rokinon DS CINEMA I need to use Metabones what type?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
Depends which Rokinon DS mount you buy and for what camera you are using it for. If you buy Canon EF mount Rokinon and want to use on MFT camera, then you need the Canon EF to MFT metabones adapter, but keep in mind the Rokinon DS is manual lenses. So there is no electronics. You could just buy a cheaper focal reducer since you don't need auto focus.
@pedroblancou
@pedroblancou 6 лет назад
Exist DS series for APC-S cameras such as A6500?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 6 лет назад
They have some Sony lenses but not cinema housing.
@7easerfilms166
@7easerfilms166 7 лет назад
Hi man! just want to know if is necesary to use an speedbooster to fix the lens on a GH4 body or it adjust on it as well. Thanks
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
To put Canon EF lenses on the GH4 you need an adapter. It does not have to be a speedbooster, but a speedbooster is better.
@gabrielspalletta
@gabrielspalletta 5 лет назад
rokinon ds needs filters for protect the glasses???
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 5 лет назад
You could, but that will affect the quality by adding another layer of glass.
@MrTreb88
@MrTreb88 7 лет назад
in that type of lenses can you use wireless ff? like the aperture dec?
@garretr4488
@garretr4488 7 лет назад
if you mean using that to control the lens then no these are full manual lenses
@sharksuke1510
@sharksuke1510 6 лет назад
What rig is that???
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 6 лет назад
Rig is from came-tv.com
@emmnauelalexandergonzalez9078
@emmnauelalexandergonzalez9078 7 лет назад
Are they the same front diameter?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 7 лет назад
Mostly. There is a few exceptions.
@emmnauelalexandergonzalez9078
@emmnauelalexandergonzalez9078 7 лет назад
MrCheesyCam thanks!
@MrThelegnd
@MrThelegnd 7 лет назад
sir one question does T3.1 is equivalent to F2.8 ?? or T3.1 is equivalent to F3.1 ??
@Clintamis
@Clintamis 7 лет назад
T-stops are about the same as f-stops. It is measured based on the transmitted light, rather than the ratio of the focal length to the opening size of the iris. The DoF is realities the same. T-Stops are just more accurate and consistant across the same set of lenses. But to answer your question, T-1.5 is the same as F-1.5 (at least as far as DoF goes. There are differences. Just not major.)
@edwinchaupisarias5239
@edwinchaupisarias5239 6 лет назад
I heard that T3.1 is equivalent to F2.8.
@TheMetalButcher
@TheMetalButcher 6 лет назад
Usually correct.
@jaymadej3327
@jaymadej3327 8 лет назад
still no xeen comparison?
@MrCheesyCam
@MrCheesyCam 8 лет назад
+Jay Madej Tried a few different tests, very hard to see any difference at all. Haven't found the right examples to show any major differences. They say the XEEN are using the same stuff as the Cine DS, and I believe it. The only major differences are build (XEEN all standard lengths, same lens diameters, etc) and also the XEEN as 11 blade iris, while the Cine DS only has 8. Otherwise almost exactly the same image.
@jaymadej3327
@jaymadej3327 8 лет назад
+MrCheesyCam that's all I needed to hear. Not worth my extra money for now. Thanks em
@Rebelismo
@Rebelismo 8 лет назад
+MrCheesyCam Thanks for posting this video. If you're saying that Xeen and Cine DS are close then I'm definitely going to stick with the DS line. Honestly, what impresses me the most is when a company can bring a fantastic product to market at an affordable price.
@kozonggg
@kozonggg 4 года назад
muka om kaya orang indonesia / your face is like an Indonesian
@lesterbrown1432
@lesterbrown1432 4 года назад
"AS": Average shit "DS" Da Shit
@horacepastrana7437
@horacepastrana7437 8 лет назад
Now i know !!!!!!!! Thanks !!!
@voucherpcgarage222
@voucherpcgarage222 5 лет назад
Thanks
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