@@gilbertlibang299 less effective like without abs Offroad. Abs still detects when the tire is about to lock and prevents that. ABS is always the better choice, god I wish I had abs
Driving ABS does't make you less of a man or a driver, it simply makes you smarter and confident. I live in Himachal and believe me the roads I traverse here on daily basis to my office are not even 2 lane, forget 4 lanes. I have been driving my car with ABS on these roads where sometimes a vehicle comes from a blind curve so fast that you have only inches(forget feet) of distance to spare and if that is not possible then only a few feet of width between railing and road to avoid collision. any uncontrolled aversion from collision would probably result in vehicle falling into 100 ft of gorges. So, ABS really gives you confidence while going either full halt or taking sharp cut when stopping distance is not enough.
@@justcows7772 It can add a bit of a distance, but still, only compared to almost perfect brake lever/pedal action, which is mostly unattainable in real life, especially in panic scenarios. So yes, there are cases where brake distance will be slightly longer with ABS - for example - a road which alternates good and bad traction or in deep sand. Though, on motorbike, the more important thing is to make sure that it does not fall over, because once you loose wheel contact with the road, braking through scraping the elements of the bike takes much longer than by using the wheels :).
@@dkdanis1340 ABS increases stopping distances. Especially in the wet, or on dirt and gravel roads. Abs reduces braking inputs from the rider and therefore increases your stopping distance. The only benefit to ABS is you're a knob and you grab a fist full of front brake or stab the rear brake, it will help prevent you from locking the wheels and sliding. That's it. If you're not a knob, and ride based on the road conditions and don't use too much brake, you'll never need ABS. ABS is useless in loose terrain, hence most ADV bikes have an OFF switch for off-road use.
Just bought a bike with ABS feature and come to see this video. I have to admit the non-ABS has put me in danger during riding on wet pavement. Great video.
@@egdcuyagecuysadgcuys I think you meant speaking from knowing your own lack of experience. Learning proper emergency breaking control will save your life more than the ABS. ABS is a great way to cause you to overestimate your speed and breaking abaility let alone the ability to differentiate and properly apply one to the other. Moto GP no ABS
@@dylh7559 If you are si inept and unskilled at modulating your brakes on your motorcycle , then you shouldn't be riding .. I am not " talking down" on tech. I am talking down on your lack of ability
What the Shrek opettele vittu suomea jos et ossaa. Saatana mä sanoin et tuo Jätkä yrittää tarkoituksella Saada moottoripyörät joissa ei ole abs ominaisuutta näyttämään paskalta.
What the Shrek Kun eitule kone koskaan menemään ihmisten edelle... Nimeomaan pitäis varmaa miettii ketkäköhä " abs " o kehittäny? Lueppa seuraavalla kerralla vähä tarkemmi samalla kun aika selvästi sanoin " jos vaa osaa hallita pyörää " enmä tässä ole itestä puhunukkaa mitää? Sanon vaa että kyllä pystyy paremmi / tehokkaammin ilman abs jarruttamaan kun abs kanssa. Ja tämä on FAKTA, Harmi :(!
Very interesting. I'm a new rider and was riding in the wet on my CB125F the other day. I don't have a good feel for the brakes yet and I ended up locking up the rear wheel. Thankfully the front wheel didn't lock up so remained stable and I didn't totally lose control. Very scary though. Shame ABS is so expensive
@@9ishesh I know. But a lot of new riders have a habit of grabbing a fistful of front brake, which causes the front wheel to skew and the rider to crash. I was deathly afraid of that. I wrote this comment like two weeks into riding when I had little to no idea what I was doing
@@djlinux64 Yeah, about a month after writing my original comment I got pretty good on the brakes. Came in handy one day coming home from work when a fella pulled out of a side street in front of me and just stopped in the road.
If your back wheel locks up..I mean...just let go of the brakes, my man. Lmfao It will only stay locked as long as your braking. If you ever catch yourself fish tailing just slowly apply the back brakes. This should help stop any speed wobbles which would probably happen around 50+mph
One of the best tips I can give anyone, squeeze your brakes using two fingers only. SQUEEZE the brakes, not pull. Also, if you're in a situation where a car stops suddenly in front of you, don't panic brake, you WILL fall. Try to swerve around the car if you can. It's better than going down.
You're right but... when you train you expect what's coming. Everything changes when you're on the road. You cannot be 100% ready for unexpected all the time so when the unexpected comes, you're surrprised, especially when it's your 7th hour on the bike. You probably will panic and squeeze the brakes at 100% which will end we all know how. This is why I will never buy motorcycle without ABS - cause I can't be sure of myself.
@StarskiPL thats you , I'm somone that allows for brake standup when cornering in the line that i ride , & can stoppie a bike , so thats skills learned, i have 3 bikes & none of them have abs because there 2008 & older , abs isn't a necessity & in the video above the rider isn't gauging a brake level to complete a stop without relying on the out wheels thwy are just pulling them full on , theres a difference.
guarantee I would destroy you on any road and stop 35% faster and would never go without abs..... been riding 25 years and 15 years on track days....@@stestar09
Those training wheels/ sliders look like they’d be really fun to mess around with. Would also really help with accidents though if made a requirement would ruin motorcycles
I remember watching a safety video when I started to drive ABS was JUST coming to cars. The video showed the traditional old way of pumping your breaks to prevent lockups and skidding. Then it showed ABS. My instructor informed us that if you have abs, just hold them down, the computer is pumping those breaks at a rate that is far greater than a human can. Seeing it on two wheels makes it even more evident.
ABS is a safety net. Its not superior to non ABS. You can stop in a shorter distance without ABS without locking up the wheels. Because ABS allows the tires to move instead of locking up and loss of control to prevent crashes. However, if you know how to emergency brake, you can stop in a shorter distance without ABS. This is of course the same if your bike has ABS and you brake properly.
@Firebolt and what if for some reason your abs malfunctions and you're left to do braking the old fashioned way for the rest of your trip? Your response is kind of like saying "Stick shift is dying it's not an important skill to have anymore" which is certainly not the case
Over all I am pro ABS but believe that it should be a function that can be cancelled in certain situations. No need to go into the reasons as it has already been covered multiple times in other comments. The reason that I am pro is that there are many many bad drivers out there who simply cannot drive/drive safely and don't appear to be able to evaluate road surface types, adverse conditions etc. In many instances the non existence of ABS on their vehicles has quite probably saved their (and their potential victims) bacon. It is my opinion that the most important aspect of ABS is to help drivers retain steering control by preventing wheels from locking up during an episode of heavy braking. Wheel lock means that the wheels of the vehicle have stopped rotating and as a result the vehicle begins to slide. The ABS gives bad drivers the ability to attempt to prevent their vehicle from crashing as it is a natural reaction to try and steer away from whatever hazard they may have encountered. You cannot steer a vehicle when the front wheels are locked on in panic.
DonBilboism well bud, we have these things called per capita statistics....which means...you would find the number of accidents per 100 motorcycles registered. So when I say ABS equipped bikes get in half as many accidents. That means you take the number of accidents for each category, non abs, and abs equipped, say there’s 500 for non equipped but there’s 2000 registered bikes, and 50 for abs but there’s 1000 registered bikes. You simply that down to a 1/100 number. So you would get 2.5/100 bikes for non abs and .5/100 for abs....thats how you would accurately compare two different categories.
DonBilboism I didn’t articulate that very well, but you basically just would end up figuring out how many out of 100 bikes on the road, end up in accidents for each category. That way you can compare two statistics that might have completely different representation. Say like there’s 100,000 abs bikes on the road, but 1,000,000 non abs bikes.
True, but that's what Bilbo is asking. Suppose ABS/Non-ABS bike numbers were 50/50, the miles ridden similar and other variables accounted for (squids vs. cautious older riders, etc.) and then ABS bikes were involved in fewer accidents the conclusion would be nigh unescapable. I suspect that's the case, but who knows?
Motorcycle manuals have stated, ABS DOES NOT shorten your braking distance. All it does is prevent the wheel from locking up. Which in turn, makes it steerable so you are still in control. Do not deliberately depend on abs, learn how to emergency brake. Its only there as a safety net. Oh yeah, ABS can fail, ive seen riders go down as the front locks up due to abs malfunction.
ABS is just an interrupting breaking system i.e, applies brakes intermittently ..which u can also do in normal breaks manually..but it won’t be as smooth as ABS
There’s a lot of people in the comments that don’t understand what abs is. It’s definitely great to learn how to emergency brake without them. I’ve had to learn that lesson the hard way living in NJ right outside of NYC. You’ll get acquainted with emergency braking very quickly. I’ve also had plenty of cars with no abs for and still do, and my current bike that I haven’t even had for a year yet is the only bike I’ve had with it. I hit the side of a vdub blowing a stop sign because I locked up the rear tire. I guarantee if I had abs I would’ve gotten out of that situation clean because I’ve been in a similar situation a couple times with it and haven’t had the same issue. But I still had more years after that accident with no abs to perfect my craft and you definitely feel like you got achievements unlocked every time you do it successfully. But for people like the one guy that said it’s unfair because the guy is purposely turning the bars on the no abs bikes. Abs lets just enough slip to be able to change the direction of the tires that steer so that’s why it’s noticeable. No abs the tire is locked in place without traction so if you steer on a bike you eat shit. You steer in a car you keep going straight. I’d love to get on a cheap bike I don’t have to worry about dropping and brake hard then initiate a turn to see if I get pitched or it just helps steer into the turn like trail braking. I’ve held the brake somewhat aggressively but not enough that it even stood me up. I’ve done the same without abs so I’m not sure where that threshold is.
You're right but... when you train you expect what's coming. Everything changes when you're on the road. You cannot be 100% ready for unexpected all the time so when the unexpected comes, you're surrprised, especially when it's your 7th hour on the bike. You probably will panic and squeeze the brakes at 100% which will end we all know how. This is why I will never buy motorcycle without ABS - cause I can't be sure of myself.
For all noobs, have you ever tried riding a 400+ cc bikes with full throttle without a ABS?? Don't compare your 100,200 cc bikes without ABS with other bikes...Agree riding part also matters
My understanding of ABS is that it only really has an effect when you do actually just slam on. Progressive breaking will trigger it to far less of a degree. I do agree though this is exaggerated compared to normal use.
There was a video showing (can't find it anymore) that only race bikers can actually brake more efficient without ABS than with ABS. Most of us - non pros - will brake better with ABS even in non panic situation.
If you don't have ABS use the rear wheel break a lot more often to slow down the bike. The front wheel to put finally put it to a stop once you're at a safe speed to avoid losing control.
@@dannyworsnop6455 I generally go at max 50-70 kmph speed i know i cant control the bike in sudden case without abs bike , so i slow down before i see chances of sudden case is high , in my case I use rear brake all-time and the front brake when my speed drops to 40 or 30, adapting according to the bike
WOW! This is new! Guys, please don't do that. It won't ends good for you. Using the rear brake only and adding front works when you have a lot of time to do that and when you have a lot of time you don't have to use the rear brake to slow down, you can use your front brake with full control and add the rear brake. The problem with blocking the front wheel is mainly caused by panic and it happens when biker is surrprised and has no time to think what to do so he brakes at full power. This is why ABS is so important - you don't have to be afraid of your uncontroled first reactions.
Thank u sooo much i was able to convince my mom and dad to take a 250cc bike with abs due to this video or else they were sure to take the 150cc model Gixxer sf..😍😍😘😘
@vijay Sunrise, we have to admit that if it's wet surface and for some reasons panic bracking happens then regardless of how good driver you are you will surely fall.
Yesterday only I was going to coaching but unfortunately met with an accident with a wheel cart due to low visibility and thank God I didn’t got any major injury just got a minor fracture in hand, Trust me if I had abs in my bike I wouldn’t have to suffer. ABS should be mandatory in all bikes, even in the entry segment.
Thanks for this, it's very informative for me who wants a full graphic presentation and key differences of Non-ABS & ABS. Short fun story: Coming from riding a Non-ABS motorcycle for 8 years; I'm at a month in now with my brand new ABS-equipped motorcycle and man... I'm still adjusting to the new braking style/habit of the thing. Not gonna lie, it feels really weird transitioning from Non-ABS to ABS because I got used to trail braking and progressive brake lever pressure. My pops called me a dumdum when he noticed I was checking out a new set of brake pads and even planning on getting the fluids flushed & replaced with better ones- he explained to me that my motorcycle doesn't need it since it's brand new and I just haven't really noticed that the brakes with ABS behaves differently than the conventional, non-ABS ones 🤣
@@spiteye4206its because the wheels get locked and you lose all of the control you had, ABS doesnt make you invincible to falling, but it makes it a lot more managable to withstand.
Been riding non abs bike and i can tell u how dangerous to ride on a rainy day. Just bought my first abs bike and after watching this vid, i feel more confident 😄
Been driving a non-Abs bike, i never had any accident since i drive very defensively, i don't drive fast then slam the brakes like a idiot. Even with ABS, you'll still crash if you don't drive defensively.
this whole drive defensively pish yes most riders should because most cant ride for shit but if you really wanna test and feel like your bike is an extension of you, you ride that shit into the ground and then you fix it and through it all youll learn the limits to your bike and to yourself
ABS can save your life sometimes no doubt but that doesn't mean it makes your life and your bike "Accident proof", and non abs bikes are not that bad while breaking, only you'll have to learn how to break properly.
korica DH, if you never lock up the brakes, ABS is meaningless. But pretending that patches of oil, sand, salt, or other forms of debris that can cause enough traction loss to lock the brakes? That’s just stupid. The computer in the ABS controller will recognize that, and correct for it before any human rider could, and will prevent accidents that would otherwise have occurred.
very simple vid representation of what abs mean .i want to own a motorcycle but i just dont know where to start, so watching the vids and reading the commets really helped me a lot. thank you!
ABS is surely a great safety feature. But we usually come across many types of Road Surfaces and the best thing probably is for companies to provide the option to switch ON or switch OFF the ABS sensors. So, a rider can decide when to use or not to use the ABS depending upon the kind of surface they come across. 🤔
A car in front of me stupidly stopped on a dual carriageway in the rain to drop somebody off without indicating and I had to slam on my brakes,I felt the ABS immediately cut in and take control.The bike brought me to an abrupt but controlled stop and I can't tell you the relief,if I had been on one of my old bikes I would have surely ended up in hospital or worse.I would never buy another bike now without ABS.
In an emergency situation (let's say a car suddenly apears in front of you) where you have to come to an stop as quick as possible, ABS will save your damn life. No human will stop the bike faster, than a computer. The ABS keeps your bike at the highest possible breaking point, without locking the wheels. And in situations as these you will most likely hit the breaks a little to hard. And if you do so, that's it.
