Don't forget the 4 Basic safety rules: 1. Treat/handle every gun as if it's loaded. 2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don't intend to shoot. 3. Keep your finger OFF the trigger until your sights are on target and ready to shoot. 4. Always beware of the target and what's beyond it. Oh, most importantly, HAVE FUN!!!
I always encourage new gun owners to get training and always practice at least once a month at the range. A gun is like any tool, you need to maintain it, clean it and make sure it works when you need it to. You cannot neglect the gun and expect it to always work.
Good advice. I always clean my pistols before I go shooting and after I go shooting. One thing some gun owners don't do is take apart their magazines and clean them.
@@thepayne7862 I may sound like I got too much money, but some mags I got, after 10 years of using them, I check to see the condition and decide if I swap out the springs or throw them away.
Quick note for everyone with a weapon is trigger discipline; keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire. You don’t want to let off a round until you’re ready to fire. It can either ruin your shot while giving yourself away, or accidentally discharge into something or someone you don’t intend to hit.
Fun switch discipline is critical, keep your booger hook indexed until you have a Target and are ready to engage. Inside the trigger guard is not part of the handle for Carrying Your Weapon, keep it clear.
The Australian Army utilises a modified Weaver stance; it is much the same with feet shoulder width apart and running straight on "traintracks" to quickly move forward or backwards from the static position
The Harries technique (the flashlight one) is really just for the movies now. Law enforcement trains with the flashlight held away from the body as the flashlight itself is a good target.
@@oracleofdelphi4533 And that's why I don't mount lights on my guns . As a US Navy sailor I attended Ship's Self Defense Force School at NAB Little Creek Virginia . USMC infantrymen were our training cadre . In one scenario we were fighting the Marines in a blacked out decommissioned fleet tug boat . One Marine was using the Harries technique . I shot at his flashlight and scored a training kill with a paintball gun .
Just like how gun control people don't acknowledge that a huge amount of shooting deaths and violence is gang related, you can forgive SimpleHistory for forgetting about the gangsta grip
You know the theory of why they do that is because the recoil will knock it sideways and clean up whatever is surrounding you. At least for machine pistols.
In the power point stance, having the non-firing hand tucked against your chest might increase your chances of surviving a pistol shot to your heart or lung as the bullet loses power going through your fist, or depending on the cartridge it could send bone fragments into your heart and lung. Then you'll be crippled and dead.
The purpose of having the support hand on the solar plexus is 1) to deconflict your empty hand and the muzzle, 2) to use your empty hand as a sensory/intuitive indicator of your upper body's center point (this helps with instinctual point shooting and body alignment), and 3) to anchor it in the center of your workspace for emergency defensive movements and administrative tasks like reloads, weapon manipulation, and tool use (flashlights, etc.)
As competition shooter and instructor I can confirm these stances are legit. Next video need to be about grip technique, which is a grossly overlooked factor in shooting. It’s almost more important than stance especially when you are shooting handguns on the move. When I see people im teaching using the stupid 90’s tea cup grip or wrist lock grip from the movies I cringe in the worst way lol. Trigger manipulation techniques are also important given the application. Shooting is just a beautifully complicated art that looks so simple but is actually very difficult once you get into the weeds, which is why I love it so.
If you really were a competion shooter and an instructor, then you would know that the Weaver, Harries, and Power Point stances are old and outdated stances, and you wouldn't teach, let alone compete, with ANY of those stances.
My favorite trick for new shooters is to tie a boot to the end of their rifle and have them hold it steady for as long as possible. This really helps people's groupings when shooting offhand when they keep doing it over time.
@@MrSmokincodz resistance training is bro science? I've been shooting for over a dozen years and have seen how well this technique works with several people but whatever ya say.
I've been watching this channel since it first started. This is the first time I've seen the narrator's face, and the first time I've seen them provide an instructional video. Awesome
I remember we have books for the schools to learn to defend and supporting ourselves like how to hold a SKS rifle or AK the right way to shoot, first aid on someone or yourself, but yeah it is quite interesting to learn more about this too
Although I don't shoot real firearms often, I do play paintball a lot, and you most certainly can tell (aside from the rental guns and gear) the differences between the shooting positions as well as trigger discipline of an experienced versus novice player.
As a beginner airsoft player I am very honored by your words because everyone else in my friend group who is a beginner at airsoft never has trigger discipline, I always keep my finger off the trigger until I am in combat and keep my gun faced downwards near friendlies.
@@titantanic7255 You always need to be mindful of yourself and others on the field. I once went to a field where the ref refused to wear a mask. I'm not exaggerating. I left my full review on that field and have never gone back there since.
When I was working as a referee at my local paintball field, the most common thing I saw rentals/first timers do (other than taking their mask off in the hot zone 🙄) was turn their back to the bunker/structure they were hiding behind. I would occasionally give them tips and tell them to never turn their back to the opposing team, even if hidden. Always stay off the bunker using the length of your marker/gun. Don’t rely or lean on the bunker. Use it as cover before peeking. Keep your barrel’s tip just off your cover object, when you’re ready, lean out of cover slightly and take your shot.
I shot my first gun today, a Ruger 9mm/19 pistol. Having it in my hands felt so cool. When the instructor, an ex C.I.A, told me how to shoot correctly it made all the movies I watch feel like a circus. Thanks Simple History.
8:32 notice how this stance has an appearence in the original Counter-Strike game, in where CTs shoot rifles such as the AK in this exact stance. Even the issue of "bullets flying over the enemy" is present in the game too
I really appreciate the progress closer and closer to GunTube and want more of it! That said, this is neat for historical purposes - fitting for Simple History - but these have mostly been modified or supplanted in the years since they came about. They might not be the best options for new shooters. Also, though I've not fact checked it myself, I've heard that the reason the Weaver stance drops the shoulder is that the guy behind it had a shoulder injury. Some critiques: Prone is basically fine, though there were some terminology issues at times. Overall fine. Weaver stance is generally fine but dropping the shoulder weakens the stance and is generally not particularly necessary. With newer stances, the same boxer-style footwork is common, though with body armour being more common, many with military or LE backgrounds have started teaching 'squaring up to the target' as they're training involved the idea of being shot at so you want to present the largest area of the strikeface of your armour to the incoming fire to ensure it's effectiveness. That's not going to happen on the range, but squaring up and boxer stance are both equally fine and down to shooter preference. For upper body, now a more 'isosceles' grip is common, with the arms both extended the same way towards the target and shoulders square (forming an isosceles triangle from above, hence the name). The elbows can be bent or locked - again, shooter's preference - and the head is usually more upright with the sights coming up to meet your vision rather than the other way around. Powerpoint seems fine as well, though a small detail is also that part of the idea of putting your hand to your chest is simply to occupy it if it's not already in use so you don't accidentally cross in front of the barrel. Unlikely but possible. Harries Technique seems to be more common in Hollywood because it looks neat. Though it's valid if you only have a handheld light, the more common usage of weapon mounted lights has somewhat made it obsolete. The idea of indexing the light near your head as well is so that it follows your vision, not your gun. You want to acquire a target visually and identify it before bringing the sights to it. Again, still totally viable though. The Soviet style stance is more or less improper by modern standards. Most modern stances focus on getting your elbows tucked in, close to the body rather than 'chicken-winging it' and the support hand being much further out, the idea being more control over the muzzle, the closer you get to it. Feet and shoulders can be square or a boxer stance. For long guns, one position that is very common now is the C-clamp or thumb-over-bore. It was initially a bit goofy when Chris Costa started with his arm almost over top of the gun, but now it's been relaxed a bit. Now it's generally just getting a much more solid grip on the firearm with the thumb over top (assuming there is something protecting the hand from heat) so you can better control the muzzle rise and drift. Similarly to the evolution of pistol stances, with long guns, the sights come up to meet the eye rather than the head dipping to meet the sights. The stock also sits much more in the shoulder pocket and the shoulder comes up towards the ear rather than simply raising the stock. This way, there's more contact inline behind the rifle. Many new sights are made with a much more upright head position as well, raising the sight much higher than older versions, initially meant to accommodate passive aiming with night vision without the tubes hitting the gun. It would be cool to see this evolve into another video on more modern techniques.
I remember how several years ago my dad’s friend, who’s policeman, offered to try to fire his service PM (Makarov’s Pistol). I never ever firer firearms before but I without any doubt tried. As you can understand, I didn’t knew about any firing techniques either, so this policeman taught me technique similar to Weaver Stance. I shot, and surprisingly made it to control the gun, but my ears immediately got muted. Want to try one more sometime
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Y'know yo, normally I skip the ad but I feel like explaining that it helps your channel out if we watch the sponsored segment is the best way to go about it, I get it we all get annoyed by ads and nobody likes them but they are there because these channels need money, so y'know, idk if I'm alone it but it makes me want to watch through the ad when you explain you need it, love the vids btw
I wish that they mentioned the history of gun stances. The stance changed from flintlock, over revolver, over early single stack pistol to modern pistols. The guns used to be heavier and have more recoil, but only the first shot counted for the most part...
nice to see these compared and have some background info how they were conceived. since its simple history, i guess thats why the (modern) isosceles is missing. i dont get why they included a prone position, but not any kneeling position, i.e. with a rifle that may differ from standing positions, according to the range or the time held
I'd suggest talking too ASP (Active self protection) or USCCA. If you plan on getting into fire arms handling. Most fire arm experts will recommend two hands on the weapon.
Just a question, wouldn’t there be a sitting position as well a kneeling position for shooting? I have seen these in USMC training and they have different firearm holding positions.
A few honorable mentions off the top of my head: 'Walking Fire' Technique for light machine guns developed at the start of WWI for infantry to lay down suppressive fire while mobile. Gear designed for the M1918 BAR included a stock shoe for bracing the gun against the body for this questionably-effective technique. Olympic/Biathalon stances, conducive to stability and controlling heart-rate and breathing. Modern C-clamp gripping/stances for muzzle control (especially conducive in competition shooting, where target transitions need to be fast). 'Point-shooting' or 'snap-shooting' For handguns there were various techniques I recall seeing from WWII OSS to 70's law enforcement training videos. As for rifles, the RLI in the Rhodesian Bush War adopted the 'snap-shooting' style for rifles to engage targets at close range in the dense jungle. Even the modern day SADF use a technique of aiming the front sight over the top of the rear sight aperture to keep the sight picture open and impact at a higher point of aim (to compensate for height-over-bore). Passive and Active aiming with Night Vision: Passive aiming involves looking through a weapon's sights or optic through a head-mounted night vision tube. Because NVGs are bulky and have to adjust focus manually, 1x red dot sights tend to work best, as the reticle can remain in focus unlike iron sights. Active aiming involves the use of a visible or infrared laser to use as an aiming device, it can be faster than aiming passively, but emits a signature that could also be visible to enemy.
7:16 I didn't know this was a real way to hold a gun, when I played Arizona Sunshine a vr game, I did this for support for the M1911 because the game does have a way to hold it with both hands. So I did this and I thought it was something that I thought of but someone told me and I actually didn't know it was a real way to be in position, I was trying to Stabilize the weapon to hit Zombies better.
The way in some thirdperson games operate their guns is sometimes quite unusual, however they are still considered as a way of using a gun even with weird animations
It is absolutely true that you can tell whenever someone has no idea of what he's doing just the way he holds a weapon. You can often tell whether they were professionally trained or not as well.
It has been awhile since I thought about firing positions. If someone remembers the names, please feel free to add that information. I entered the Army in 1991, and the training I received in my Basic and AIT was the same at every other base I went to. The prone position, very similar but really only different was it was beaten into us how how from the tip of our rifle to the tip of our toe should be in a straight line. We probably spent as much time on how to properly get into the firing position and get up! Shoot move cover, shoot move cover but that was the same for kneeling but a little different for firing from an upright position. Though I still have nightmares about how to clear a "missfire/jam". I do miss bayonet net training...
I'm surprised he didn't mention the C clamp with the support hand in the handguard of a rifle after the Russian manual of arms since it helped fix the issue of not being able to hold the rifle down on target with successive shots
@@Saddaddy really? I didn't realize C Clamp was that new, I thought the newest one would've been like Central Axis Relock like the thing John wick would do in the movies pulling it closer while raising it to still use the iron sights when you're like right up with something
I do wonder how many stances there are for Shotguns? When I first shot a 12 Gauge I just shouldered it and fired while standing straight and not leaning forward. Though I did get a bruise on my bicep, I was wearing a leather jacket that helped take the recoil. Great vid hope to see more like these👍
You got a bruise on your bicep because that's not where the buttstock is supposed to rest. When shooting a shotgun with proper form you want to take a bladed stance, with one foot slightly more forward than the other, kind of like a boxer stance, this helps manage The Recoil. Now with proper stance and form your supposed to tuck the buttstock into the shoulder area. Once the stock is squared into the shoulder and pulled tight you get your cheek welded to the stock so that you can aim with your dominant eye. Now if you're shooting skeet / flying targets you don't chase the target but instead swing the barrel up to and converging with the path of the clay pigeon and then pull the trigger just as you pass the clay pigeon and the two should converge for a hit. Getting your form correct will significantly improve your accuracy and increase the shooters comfort by reducing the amount of bruises or injuries due to improper shooting technique.
I often utilize a variant of the Harry's stance for riflery, when exploring dark rooms or my back yard, as you don't always want to point the rifle in the direction of the light. Also, weapon-mounted lights are not cheap, but you can buy a standard flashlight of asimilar quality for pennies by comparison. While this is not as stable as the weapon-mounted light and a standard "Ready 2" bipedal stance, it can reduce the instance of friendly fire and increase spacial awareness. A good way to think of this, is with the light in the non-dominant hand, which the rifle rests in the elbow or on the forearm of. Another technique which is a fairly accurate one, is the Kneeling or Marine's stance. This stance is for when prone positions are not possible, but accuracy over distance is a must. Another lesser well known stance is the Seated position. Hunters and soldiers use this position when ambushing or injured. It is a combination of the Power-point and Kneeling positions, or the Weaver and Kneeling positions, with the caviot of being seated. I could obviously go on for days, but I thought I'd just drop a few of these here since I have the time and knowledge to. Thanks, Simple History Museum!
The lights aren't cheap, but the clips for them are. You can find them in "minimaglight" and "tactical flashlight" sizes. Just get one of those and problem solved. Also if you put a green filter on your light you get the best of red & blue filters, high visibility w/o destroying your night vision but easily missed by those not watching for it.
@Nicholas Hodges where do you get the picatinny clips? I always found them to be built in, which is why they are so expensive.... You're definitely right about the green. You can get that effect by cutting up a sprite bottle. 😉
When I teach people to shoot I start them with traditional stances but then tell them to adjust so they are comfortable. I say as long as you can perform and do it safely I don't care what it looks like. This has led to some very odd but surprisingly effective stances.
I saw the gangsta position used by Mark Sloan in a indoor firing range in the Season 4 episode "Murder by Friendly Fire" of Diagnosis Murder. It did not work well for him as the gun's recoil nearly flung itself out of his hand.
If we're talking gun positions, apparently there was a point where the preferred method was to fling your firing arm forward and your other hand back to point as far forward and back as possible. And I still don't understand what or why. Maybe you could consider explaining that
I am very happy to see Simple History making a video instructing and educating a lot of new and amateur gun owners on different stances and techniques involved in operating a firearm. Gun control is not an option, and should never be. Keep your guns.
I still remember teaching my brother to shoot. 12 gauge shotgun. Pretty much told him to get into a Muay Thai stance and lean forward. Forgot to tell him to make sure the butt was tucked into the shoulder and to aim center mass. Laughed when he told me how his shoulder was sore
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Nice to see more general RU-vidrs go into responsible firearm ownership and handling but it’s worth noting that these aren’t the only widely used stances. Im quite surprised that many of the more modern iterations aren’t present. Modified Weaver by Chapman was further modified to the “fighting stance” wherein the chest is presented flat to the threat. Ideally, this would present armor to the threat while alleviating issues of cross eye dominancy. Isosceles stances also is the more modern way of shooting but wasn’t mentioned. It seems that this is more related to the upper body than previously when it also referred to the base, the feet, being equal. Harris technique also got modified sometime ago to where the hand wielding the light was conducting a pull motion on the grip of the pistol, as if it was a normal push and pull grip with the weaver stance. Isometric tension is still present when they can’t the tube body light upwards to the bottom frame of the pistol. Of course, prevalence of weapon mounted lights make this a little dated. Center axis relock, the ultra cqb stance of John wick also deserves a mention.
Firearms… not common here in England but army cadets has its perks when it comes to firearms… both professional maintenance and handling training along with controlled live fire exercise.
That actually happened in 1:02 in Las Vegas several years ago. Young girl accidently killed a Rangemaster with a machine gun. The constant recoil brought the gun a full 180 into him.
I dunno why but I just really like the way the Harries Technique looks, maybe it's because Leon uses it in the Resident Evil 2 remake which is one of my favorite games
