Difficult Women: Why We Love KILLING EVE's Psychopath 

Ideas At Play Almost all the villians from Gotham, Missy from Doctor Who, Marina Andrieski from The Magicians, Zelena and Regina Mills from ouat, Malakai Parker from tvd and Villanelle, of course

Villanelle

Cerci, GoT

I enjoyed my intense disdain for Dr. Melfi’s patronizing psychiatrist, ‘ Elliot ‘, played by Peter Bogdonavich ! The Sopranos. { I heartily hated Bob Eubanks, with his smug whilst inane attacks on women, circa (1960’s-ish) “ The Newlywed Game “} ~~I know that you said TV, but whether he played a Priest or Truman Capote, I loved Phillip Seymour Hoffman’s “ Difficult Men “. He was someone whose gift had such a breadth. 🌹

Henry, The Tudors.

“I have kids!!” “I dont want your kids!!!”

It was actually children

she actually made people killed others for her, that’s creepier...

Angelina Fonzz my favourite line😂😂😂

I have kids

She should of got an Emmy for this no doubt. What's interesting is her take on Villanelle and how she is able to argue that there is still some semblance of humanity left in her behind the monster.

The range of accents too!! OMG

I loved her in my mad fat diary too.

She's definitely the breakout hero of this tv series. I could tell from The White Princess that she would be brilliant once she found her stride. I was right.

Senate300 yes, agree. She should have got the Emmy

Don't worry... I won't @ you hehehe

Some man already nut and crazy. Girl just simple evil.

*cough* Joker, hannibal, loki, Patrick Bateman, Hans Landa *cough*

Caily doesn’t mean there’s no good men villains lol

Caily the joker with heath is amazing tho :0

...and, it takes practice 😉

I'm sure as he'll trying 😊

@@tillitseac3774 Amateur

me irl

facts

Y’all have issues 🙃 let’s not romanticize serial killers

dirty towel We know she is a seriel killer and a psychopath, we love her bc she's a fictional character, she's not real chill lmao

Yes yes yes! I just re-binged season 3 and it is so clear to me that both Eve and Villanelle are breaking away from everything imposed on women that is actually meaningless in order to find each other and real meaning. Niko and all he represents, state politics and intrigue, "handlers," limitations that are never reciprocal, false and real families that offer women nothing. Inspiring!

Valentina López YALL are still romanticizing a serial killer so idk what your point is ?

Your comment tells me that you haven't seen many shows.

Aron Que Marr -Arun Kumar your comment tells me you have a bad taste. Killing Eve is amazing!

Camellia S., I don't have a bad taste. This show just happens to be not for me. Also there's many other series better than Killing Eve.

Aron Que Marr -Arun Kumar I have seen a SHIT TON of shows and I can say that Killing Eve is one of the best most brilliant shows I've ever seen!

swevicki, tell me how many of those shows had a high critical reception (not imdb).

She won't be after Killing Eve. 😉

#dadjoke

Not anymore

Best casting ever.

Is it wrong to have re watched series 1 five times now?

@@MrQwerty3000 haha, absolutely not! I'm on my 4th time. I could watch villanelle 24/7.

Nobody is more obsess with her than me

True...so captivating.

Indeed she was. But Ms. Comers made it to the acting big leagues now. Jodies come a long way from Mad Fat Diary.

She's the best, this show wouldn't have worked without her amazing performance.

@@MartinsGarage97 Exactly. She was perfect for Villanelle. It was all in the eyes of me.

She has a Critics Choice Awards nomination but she's going up against her castmate

Agreed. Absolutely robbed. Astoundingly so.

High Savage What does this show have to do with lgbtq?

Villanelle is a confident bi

Is she even bi? She sounds more gay than bi, she only has feelings for women and gets obsessed with women as for men she only uses them without no feeling whatsoever.

@@ntala3399 Sexual and romantic feelings are not mutually exclusive. You can be bi but only develop romantic feelings for women or just men or both or neither. This Does not take away from your sexual preferences. It depends on the person. Still I think she's bi, do I know that for sure? No.

Yea if you are a 16 year old American white middle class girl with all the time and all the privilege in the word who has no worries and now has to give names to all her sexual feelings but this is a Russian woman from a very poor Russian village. Eastern women are suppressed, treated like second class citizens most of the time and expected to marry a man and give him children. Not to mention homosexuality is seen as something disgusted and you could raped and/or killed for it. Time to stop seeing the world through the internet dear, you have no idea what happens in the rest of the world.

Halie I think it's a bit of both. I payed attention and it's true, every time she acts throws a random question/comment at someone it's exactly when the conversations are going somewhere she doesn't want. And when she's watching the child eat ice cream and the reaction she gets just for being a child is also very telling. But she acts also very childlike even without motives. The way she bonded and argued with the little girl by the end, was like they were both the same age. Role-playing hide and seek too. The whole crush on Eve. The way she's seeking attention and approval from older parental figures. I could go on and on... I really hope we get to see more of her past next season, while it won't redeem her, it will give us more insight.

This was a beautiful and insightful post.

I have to second what Caroline said, she's definitely manipulating however she seems to regress as well. She seeks older people to look after her and give her validation and fun, whilst it is also clear she much more easily gets along with someone younger e.g. her handlers feisty daughter. She's probably closer to a sociopath because a lot of her behaviour appears to be reactive and learned.

I was also thinking about Hannibal!

Halie great commentary and so true

yeah I find myself terrified for people she's in close proximity with lol

Keithcrash Is A Real Toughie If you have cable, you can watch all episodes on BBC America.com otherwise, it will be on hulu soon.

Nicole Drougel-Smith I appreciate that. I’ll be catching it on Hulu, then! I appreciate it.

Wtf? Its been on HBO since the releasing of the series.

Nicole Drougel-Smith : Thanks! I’ll watch it online with pleasure! There is literally so much good fare now!

Look it up online I finished it in May and it doesnt come to canada until this summer

She's maybe the most interesting female charecter I've seen on screen since Mallory knox. Well I also loved lisbeth in girl with the dragon tattoo. I just love deep but psychotic woman.

@@jbellflower83 you should watch or read Gone Girl. Amy Dunne is another great sociopathic female character

@@johart6181 I love that movie and yes I forgot about Amy dunne.

morally grey characters> simply good or bad characters

I think a lot of people shares your opinion :)

me too...😅🙈

Samesies!!

Yessss

@@hamzahqutob4799 true and I’m kinda thankful to Sandra for introducing Jodie 😂

Woah there i dit NOT expect you here. Anyways, i barely even noticed a difference between seasons 1 and 2 and i watched both in one sitting (im a god of time management.)

She is... It's her show....

I was pretty happy with things till season 4....

and four

Yes, love Fiona Shaw - she is such a wonderful actress too and is brilliantly cast in this show.

Question, is she a sociopath or a psychopath?

Damn I would love to read something like that

@@kcmn0089 I think she might be a sociopath rather than psychopath and that fits the "tragic backstory" of abuse, losing parents, violence etc (i.e nurture not nature) but could be a bit of both. Villianelle is certainly capable of empathy and neither is she dissociated in her actions. Gives the impression of a sociopath. On the other hand Aaron Peel is more psychopathic. (killing the father, Sadistic & bully like) Two cases: Villianelle relationship with Konstantine which is similar to Leon "the professional" and Mathilda. A type of father/daughter relationship and it seems to distress Villianelle to kill Konstantine. However, see when they meet again - its a relationship that has love and passion. Villianelle definitionally has some affection for Konstantine. As a sociopath this would just be selective relationships - the neurological writing still exists, just needs a re-boot. As for a psychopath, they are biologically incapable of love - there is no baseline to compare to "amoral" would be the term. Secondly with Eve - there is affection for Eve and plenty opportunities for Villianelle to kill Eve but she does not. Villianelle is not fueled by revenge and there is something she admires in Eve. HOWEVER - this could simply be Villianelle's narcissistic psychopathy. This is were I think & argue that perhaps Villianelle is a psychopath. Villianelle is solipsistic, only thing that matters is Villianelle ! and she gets a high from being the center of attention - self pride. She is like the star at the center of the show and all others orbit around her - and thats her raison d'être, her primary drive, her meaning, her value. Villianelle gets the thrill seeking by having Eve orbit her sphere of influence. Likewise with Konstantine - the more he is impressed with her work, its like a daughter impressing the dad for attention. This makes sense, as soon as Eve breaks the spell at the end of season 2, she breaks the orbit around Villianelle and of course....Villianelle shoots her (although we know its not the end) Eve has voyeurism for the psychopath - but far from a psychopath herself. That was Villianelle's misjudgment "your like me" We know Eve lacks the psychopathy because of the immediate guilt, regret and pain after stabbing Villianelle and even worse, the pain and trauma caused by the Axe murder of the handler. The voyeurism for the psychopath is a dissociated state and completely different to the associated state of actually being a psychopath. However, there are deep connections - and disturbing ones. These are discussed in moral philosophy with the trolly experiments such as would you switch a train track to divert a train from killing 5 people to killing 1 person. (utilitarian net = more survivors) The other side of the thought experiment - would you push the fat guy over the bridge to block the train and save the lives of 5 people. Psychopaths dont see much difference in the above two scenarios. Logically there is no difference, both save 5 and kill 1.

@@philosophicalinquirer312 This was a brilliant description. But I have a question if you have already watched S3, where Villanale's tragic backstory is told in an episode where she goes back to her family. And the last conversation she had with her mother was where Tatiana accused Oksana for having some kinda "darkness", and that she was a manipulative child who used to control people around her from childhood so much that her mother decided to leave her in the orphanage. Can it suggest that she was born with these manipulative, enraged, complete overlap of ed and ego-like qualities and doesn't that qualify for a primary psychopath? If that's true, by season 3 ending, what's her deal with Eve? Because, it seemed like they are both going to bring real changes in their lives, especially Villanale. And that is something really unusual, if she wants to change for "love" (or obsession?) in case she's a psychopath.

eyeswatermaker I lovvee her smile !

It was the only time I hated her in thr series.

To be fair Bill made a stupid mistake. I think that's why that scene was so intense. It's like he triggered her killer shark instinct.

A Clockwork Orange look. She was amazing in that scene... and the rest of all her scenes....

Her smile in that scene was wow creepy and haunting

Who the hell wrote that article?

Natalia grow up lol it’s a show

She's too good - they thought she was a Russian actress.

She has actually won one in 2019

MrFuthisshit watch Jane the virgin

and especially crazy ex girlfriend. Trust me (and a lot of other fans / check out their reddit sub, also ideas at play have a vid about it too: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LDjdBjLYj74.html ). songs you might like (waaay) more or less, but the characters....! Trust me.

The Fall

Povera vittima (si diverte anche molto nel suo lavoro) aspetto la quarta serie, è solo TV da psicopatici. I sani di mente prendono il distacco

cause pheobe left and money hungry people continued :(

Correct. Psycho/Sociopathy are often mistakenly measured by the scale of their violent atrocities and their indifference towards them. Villanelle is a gifted, well paid Assassin and natural predator who worships the act of killing. Plus there's no smouldering rage driving her bloodlust. She lacks the discipline that comes with the job and has no respect for authority, much to the chargrin of her handler who must be wondering "When does she turn her murderous eye on me?". It became basically the Hitwoman shits and her employers wipe. That being said the Hairpin injection eye stabbing, the poisoned perfume and the carbon monoxide murder were extremely calculated assassinations with little or not a drop of blood spilt.

@Victor Mace well that's cause it's a British show lmao American shows have like 28 episodes per season it's a drag

This is what a lot of crime shows are missing. So many crime shows are so serious and dark that you end up taking the show 2 seriously. TV should be anything you could imagine, not some dark world that'll make you feel depressed after you watch it

Same person, dozens of channels with varying gimmicks and themes. As their initial channel had poor traction for viewers and subs, they decided to corner the market by creating so many channels, the sheer volume of videos would corner the market and fool the algorithm, ensuring DONE videos would not only be recommended, but also monetized.

@@volatilesky I like the theory that one person has like forty+ YT accounts and will never believe otherwise again. Even though I don't know how in the fuck this person would be able to upload multiple videos (depending on the day) like literally every day. (They must be a fucking millionaire wtf) Edit: Just changed some stuff.

I see it as more Hannibal and Clarice.

@@moonlily1 I can see that as well, it's just because in the TV Show Bryan had more time to develop the relationship between Hannibal and Will - which is quite different than the one brought in Red Dragon and it ends up bringing some of the traits of ClaricexHannibal relationshop