Digimon Adventure Reboot Season Review | Billiam 

There are plenty of good children’s anime *points to precure specifically heartcatch*

Really was an amazing series

Wasn't it from 2000

@@yemmohater2796 nope, i think it was 1999. I think the session finished in 2000 though

Iconic, Absolutely but I didn’t hate or very much dislike this 2020 one. I liked them sprinkling in digimon from all six previous main seasons. More than anything I consider this to be an homage of itself not something to please everyone.

Full speed to nowhere

Better than Tri at least. You had six movies and complete nothing for most of it culminating in a cliffhanger was the best you could come up with?

​@@mariokarter13 Eh, I prefer tri. The six OVAs (they weren't really movies) in total would only reach halfway (around 25 episodes) of a proper season (usually 50+ episodes). Adventure 2020 had way longer time (67 episodes) and also managed to complete nothing for most of it. In tri, at least each of the kids was given character development. The main focus was also clear - to save Meicoomon. But the context changed from literally saving it to metaphorically saving it from its suffering. What you called cliffhanger was not even one, but more like a sequel bait since that was not even what tri focused on. Adventure 2020 also had sequel bait in its last episode. Adventure 2020 didn't even develop the characters despite having 60+ episodes, remaining the same as the moment they were introduced. The kids just defeat stronger and stronger villains (who mostly were just feral, non-talking, no personality villains), but defeating them didn't advance the story. The kids didn't get anything out of it - no new information, no character development; those were pretty much context-less battles. The only way for the plot to "move" was once the kids reached info dump episodes, which was like only 3 episodes out of 67. It doesn't help the fact the story lost much of its focus once Milleniummon, the supposed big bad talked from the beginning of the season, was underwhelmingly defeated in just 1 episode (while the previous context-less villains were stretched to 3 episodes each). Then we got this new unknown villain while just by then the show started to focus on the things the kids have been using all this time but nobody ever questioned (the crests). It just became even more meaningless since they finally resorted to Omegamon anyway (who have been appearing multiple times earlier), undermining the 20+ episodes of unlocking the Ultimate/Mega evolution.

Maybe that’s a subtle way toei is sequel baiting us by showing that the story isn’t over yet since leomon still hasn’t sacrificed himself

Just Break The Chain!

Is this the first time a Leomeow survived?

@@austinfowler6700 V-tamer leomon lived Along with Kizuna Leomon

NOOOOOOO THE TRADITION OF MURDERINF LEOMON IS OVER

Like the ones in the filler episodes?

@@leonardofarias8843 There's no filler episodes in the original, considering there's no manga to base the animé on.

It's probably because most of the show's writing was happening when the pandemic first hit and I imagine it was a nightmare for writers to communicate between each other and production, so they settled to more inconsequential MotW episodes to get most of the work load done until they could sit together again. It's easy to see there really is a divide between the 'let's get evolution debuts out of the way' episodes and the actual character development episodes, and why there's so little breathing space during the first half of the show.

@@bluuangel004 They had V-Tamer, but sadly Toei is fricking dumb...

@@jironamos7650 That's a different story altogether. Kind of like how Pokemon was very different in the anime and manga.

Its kinda sad that Taichi becoming Naruto

@@wikansaktianto9215 I blame Toei for wanting to push Tai super hard.

@@wikansaktianto9215 At least Naruto was given backstory and character development. That made him a more interesting character. 2020 Taichi had none of that. He's just bland and the only characterization he had was the stock shonen phrase "I won't give up!"

I really hated the Tai pandering, but I think there's a fundamental missinterpretation going on in this show compared to the original. In the original, the group is all in all at once and them barely knowing each other while in a place they never even knew anything of was really something that created tension in the group. Not only they are lost, but their digimon are also pretty much useless guides. But that's not the dynamic in 2020. They came in a few a time, Izzy figured out bite sized goals very early on, they know where they are and they know it isn't impossible to go out, they kind of accept the things that they have to do a lot earlier. One show is imposed survival, the other is an accepted dangerous mission after like, episode 3. It makes sense there's less in fighting.

My way of looking at it is that Digimon follows more of a power rangers setup where every kid has their own arc and story and how they are equally important. 2020 tried to go classic shonenand lost the charm

He was drunk and drove his car off the road, and that's the last that we are going to say about it.

@@mkgibertjr Sounds like something someone would say to cover up a secret

@@OTOBIOhazord 👁️👄👁️

remember digimon is a kids show

@@damagedaether except for when it isn't.

I agree. It started out pretty good and then.... 😐

Same

@@zeanzern4396 where can you watch it

Ik right. When the digimon were tapping into the human worlds smartphone smart TV an anything tech that was that advanced an showed them all a countdown to the digimon trying to gather the necessary data to help free millenniummon it got the kids to realize if they don't stop it an defeat the digimon before the time runs out all of the screens with timers on them will all turn into a nuclear bomb an vaporize all live in the area an there family an friends were there but they weren't thinking about that the kids didn't want anyone to die so they were all assembled focused an determined to defeat that digimon an not holding back. They were kids an they were acting live veteran warriors that had real teamwork and taichi and Yamato were amazing strategists an leaders an they aren't even teenagers yet lol. This was a good series

An its not that they weren't people its that they have always focused on that in the first season they were assuming that fans or people that know what digimon was could just watch the original series to see all that. Why waste some good episode on that an bore these new generation kids. They get bored to easily to begin with.

Agreed

Except with Pokemon, the overarching narrative doesn't really matter that much, while with Digimon, it's kinda the whole point

Well that makes sense considering the hrad writer that was brought in gor Adventure 2020 wrote for the Pokemon anime.

@@justjulia1720 Not really. Even Pokemon has to follow a main narrative which even has an established end goal (ash becoming a pkmn master) despite its episodic nature. I mean that's basically the whole premise of the show so much that it is frequently brought up in the Japanese opening themes. Pokemon pretty much had it as bad, if not worse as it managed to focus more on being a glorified commercial to the games that not only applies to most of its episodes but also tends to hinder the show's overaching narrative.

While Pokemon is much more episodic than Digimon (mostly to the continuation vs. new story difference) Pokemon's arcs are usually much better than the standalones (hence why Journeys is a mixed bag due to being too few of them).

He never died but he also never really does anything worthwhile after his debut...meaning he was kind of half dead the entire reboot? Its a drag he never even met Ogermon.

I like the idea of having a show where Leomon doesn't die, but with how much of a mess DA2020 was I think they just forgot to kill him.

​@@RoboBlue2 I mean, with all the references to across the franchise including deep cuts like Minidekachimon (who previously only existed as an extension of Atamadekachimon in the Japanese-exclusive DigiWindow toy as a crossover present from the Japanese-exclusive cell phone game Digimon Pocket Wars in January 2007) and Reference Book profile references like when Ghoulmon changed from white to black while materializing as a "god of destruction" in the penultimate battle, I find it hard to buy that they would have left it out intentionally.

@@RoboBlue2 They're gonna go into Season 2 and have to say he died off-screen, just to make sure tradition is respected.

My biggest issue was how shilled taichi and agumon were

@@CrobatmanIamthenight Not to mention how in the last arc, where each of the characters try to uncover their crests, Taichi and Agumon always appear and they ask “why are you here?” We all know why.

Or at the very least, cut down some episodes since this didn't need to be a long season.

The writers constantly separated them, if anything. They never act like a team or have interesting interactions with one another, but just a bunch of people at the same place at the same time.

@@IgnitedQuils I haven't even seen the last half of the season and I'm already laughing because I _get_ it. I'll never forget Taichi and Agumon getting another ultimate evolution before anyone gets their last one...

Afterall Digimon is more like Persona or Stand User rather than Pokemon duel thingy..too bad this new series is like that Pokemon duel.

Whole heartedly disagree with you there. If you watch those shows again, the digimon are pretty much doing the same there as they are doing here, if not being treated ever worse as tools. Palmon, Tentomon and Gomamon are prime examples of the Digimon having personalities in this series and they are always cheering their kids up. Sora straight up has an episode about a fight with Piyomon. The digimon in all digimon shows very rarely feel complementary to their kids, they are always more or less the same personality of the kid. If you want a show where that is >very< bad, check savers. Gaomon's entire personality is just saying "yes master"

@@jpcsdutra Picking Gamon specifically is like taking things out of context, have you even watched savers? Gaomon is basically Touma's mother, but made a Digimon, its just an idealization to help Touma cope with his mother's traumatic death.

@@jironamos7650 I did actually, even though it was quite a while back. I'll be completely honest, I don't really remember the personality of any of the partner digimon in that show, they weren't memorable at all for me.

@@jpcsdutra Well, thats fine, it was a respectful point of view. I would say Agumon was by far the most developed because well, it was the main character 'mon.

The Digital World being a somewhat savage place is a new take, this would have worked in most other seasons. It's possible this one was as savage as it is because it's denizens have vanished.

If they caught on to or kept tracking down the Soundbirdmon, that would have prevented the last arc right there

That is the plot in Kamen rider.

Well, after they learn about digimon reincarnation it really is a moot point. The evil digimon are absorbing data and thus preventing digimon from being reborn. The chosen ones kill something and it gets to be reborn. There really isn't a comparison. If the evil guy kills there's less digimon in the world, if the chosen ones kill, the digimon count remains the same. There really is nothing to lose.

@@KenjuKizawa Not really, there's basically millions of them and only a handful at most acted at any given time until Ghoulmon.

It's almost as if the roles were reversed. The digimon went from being a 1-dimensional yes man to actually interesting characters and the main cast went from people with depth to a generic good guys heroes.

@@freddice8156 EXACTLY

Tailmon got more development in the original than all the digimon in 2020 combined.

@@freddice8156 Mimi may be the only one who's solid in both original and remake.

@@DrawciaGleam02 Nah I think Taichi and Yamato also is pretty solid on both too.

But he's a mad max motorbike cyborg demon with a cute bunny friend now, he's got his happy ending 😃

An Ogremon who went on a quest to be more powerful for his own and maybe his clan's survival. At the end, he'll digivolve to Titamon, becoming one of the strongest Digimon in the region, only to be seen as a threat and eliminated by the Olympos XII.

I'd still watch it 🤣 gotta support my favorite digimon

And Titamon is absolutely epic looking

"Garurumon is awesome! I wonder what he'll become next?" *Goes on Wiki* "Oh he's wearing pants, that totally killed my excitement"

I think we saw every evolution in the end credits. Atleast in the Finnish version, that more faitfully follows the Japanese dub.

"Leomon lives" what is this sacrilege?

I've said this on a few Digimon video before, but... "Great idea, lacking execution" is a microcosm of this entire franchise. Digimon World- an open world game (on the PS1 of all things) where you get a partner you care for and the way you raise it translates into what becomes of it. Great idea! Sadly the game is infamously obtuse and frustrating and it'd take well over a decade for a modernized version to be released.... in Japan only. Adventure 02- a sequel to the popular series with better animation, following a new set of kids with new, odd world mechanics and keeping tabs on the previous cast. Good idea, but 02 is also known for the absolute trainwreck its plot ended up as with things just being tossed in and forgotten, and the epilogue that, again, took decades to even try justifying in the end scenes of Last Evolution. Frontier- A series where they cut down the total cast number by a huge margin by making the kids themselves become Digimon. While controversial, this could actually work, as the lower cast number means you can now put more focus into the quality of each character. Didn't really happen, though, so now Frontier exists as the entirely mediocre black sheep of the family. Data Squad has a cast that's full of young adults working for an agency that handles Digimon-related incidents. This is actually a neat idea and could actually work for both an overarching plot and a few monster-of-the-week side plots. But the cast ended up being bland and the relationships not well developed. The Cyber Sleuth games were good, but still had issues regarding plot and, honestly, look low-budget even for Vita titles. Next Order was just as good but suffered from less-than-stellar writing and the same lack of budget- which is odd because it's the only recent Digimon game with an actual dub, and it's a fine dub too. And how about that new fitness watch? As you work out, your Digimon gets stronger too. That's AMAZING! Stupendous idea! The thing's strap is made out of flimsy plastic, is very small, and earlier versions had trouble reading the vitals of people with 'darker skin'. Oops.

@@mariofan1ish What about Fusion/Xros Wars? I haven’t heard ANYONE talking about it at all to the point where people seem to want to forget it.

@@ryanaing5302 Expanding on the time-honored tradition of fusion in Digimon isn't an inherently bad idea, but the series was created fairly cynically. The new monsters looking a lot like plastic toys and just getting rammed together to get stronger reminds me of the original Megazord from Power Rangers, and the forms look just as messy. I left Fusion out because I personally think it wasn't a good idea from the start. Xros Wars 2 was literally shat out just to fill a time slot Toei didn't want to lose and they had nothing better to use, and to push more toys. I think that says more about what Digimon means to it's owners than anything else. Also it wasn't especially good in either dub, so it was kinda a bad idea bad execution deal.

@@mariofan1ish How about the story, themes, and characters of Fusion/Xros Wars? Excluding Digimon Hunters. I’m sure it contributes to the series’ bad reputation.

That would be cool. I’ve always wanted to see more of the friends who got digimon near the end of the show.

the creator made one. its not good

Don't we all

Yeah given how the original creator has turned into a reactionary alt righter...I'm good with it as it is.

It could happen.

Let's not forget that Joe decided to spend his time in an alien world with monsters and unknown laws of physics, studying instead of surviving. In general Joe was such a caricature of his former self, that it hurt my soul

Not sure if this is bait or not, but it's also the same director.

Basically. And as a huge, longtime fan of both franchises... I hated both Adventure 2020 and Super. Complete bastardizations of once great tales, made only for soulless profit.

Slightly better in some areas, worse in others. At least some of the Super episodes were exciting, Digimon 2020 it's just all spectacles and no real substance, DBS too is like that but Digimon 2020 is worse in this aspect IMO.

Nah, even Super still had more effort in building its threats and some semblance of continuous arcs. The characters aren't super deep, but they still interact and express emotions more than in Adventure Reboot.

@@RPGNoZero wow that's rough for digimon considering the character interactions was a big part of its strengths

Just pretend Last Evolution doesn't exist. It was a bad movie anyway, considering it ended on the 'When you become an adult your stuck and done. No more room for growth or evolution there.' with no tie back to 02. To finish the old adventure series with a statement that is contrary to what the whole Digimon franchise stands for is just stupid and makes the movie bad, no matter how good everything else in it was. :/

You actually fell for Last Evolution's trite forced ending???

@@ripleyandweeds1288 I really wonder who's at fault for that stupid ending. Not expecting something revolutionary or so, but... Last Evolution's ending was bad on every level. Really wishing someone would make a better ending for it and post that with the rest of the movie so it's worth rewatching. It *could* have been a good way to put the old Adventure to rest... :/

@@GoldenEmotions I believe it was the director. He did an interview explaining the reason Last Evolution went the way it did and it's basically an old Digimon fan growing and saying "adults shouldn't enjoy childish shows, grow up" in a much nicer and PR way. I can find the link for you if you want to read it.

@@weridplusho That is such a pathetic way of thinking. Imagine letting someone tell you not to enjoy stuff! That guy must be someone with a sad and boring life if they don't know the value of having fun so that they prioritize fitting old social standards. (Also, who would want to reduce the amount of customers giving them money?) But I'd be interested in reading that interview, if it's not too much of a hassle for you to get me a link to it.

Just wanna mention that I prefer 99's Mimi waaay better than that businesswoman already fully in charge of everything Mimi from the reboot

Nah...still think digimon xros wars was the worst

No. Tri is the worst. Them is Digimon Universe, Xros wars hunters and 02. After all that adventure 2020.

It's easy to forget because they showed the real world so little, but they did imply from the beginning that kids were able to see the bigger digimon fights happening. It's how TK and Hikari get involved in the first place. I don't think the ending is about the whole world cheering for them, it's just the kids that have been watching all along.

You're all wrong. Frontier is still the worst. This coming in as a close second. Also, Mimi is best character in the show. Don't @ me.

@@miep3934 ¿Why?

Older digimon:We get stronger by fighting!! New digimon:Haha nom nom nom I’m now stronger!!

The Digivolution is up and running! DigiSee? DigiHear? DigiKnow? what's coming? Our DigiDestiny starts today! Let me hear you say...

@@Mr.Ian_20XX please go away with that devil song thanks

"Digimon, Digital Monsters, Digimon are... mutated computer viruses that escaped from a research facility and used by malicious hackers to do a myriad of tasks on the internet, such as forming a paramilitary organization named "Crack Team" to favor the armies of different nations in creating a program to incentivize children to join the army as if it were just a mere game so they could get profit by training child soldiers who wield Digimon to do dirty deeds". "Oh and by they way, they are champions too."

@@jironamos7650 what

do you guys watch the japanese version and not dubbed right?

Watching Millenniumon get decked by Godramon was the most beautiful thing ever. But more in a entertaining way rather than a "this was totally worth watching 50 episodes" way.

I mean, that shot does make sense though! They were fighting over the clouds, Millenniummon goes down, through the clouds and collides with the ground. It may have looked weird because of how HUGE it was, far bigger than the space between ground and clouds. A follow-up shot of the impact from the ground's perspective, like the back of its head piercing through the clouds and leveling a mountain would've helped a lot too. I personally think Millenniummon was done justice, even with the short screentime they made the best out of it and delivered one of the most intense fights in Digimon. I didn't love the reboot overall, but that episode really stood out. I'll happily take it over a stretched-out, lower quality fight.

Start by tamers, it's the best one.

Skip this one. And also consider this is a multiverse franchise with really convoluted and crazy stuff, probably one of the most ambitious out there. The anime is mostly spinoff content, so if you want an understanding of Digimon, Get Cyber Sleuth Complete edition and play both games on it. Then if you want to watch anime: Watch Tamers, Watch Adventure 1999, watch Savers.

@@jironamos7650 mimi~ mimi~😭😭😭

I think he streamed the first one

*Pride Wrath is the father with the eyepatch

I disagree, I felt like they had the whole plot outlined since the beginning.

Well ultimately matters little how things were planned. I felt unsatisfied either way.

@@truegamer_007 I kind of hope they didnt otherwise they outlined is very poorly.

This is such a good comment...except for the whole "Last Evolution generally did that so well" because Last Evolution was fucking awful and went against Adventure and 02 as a whole. Like that whole movie's conflict was so forced and insulting, like they were trying to retconn 02's epilogue but were too chickenshit to actually do it.

Meanwhile 1997 era fan in a corner: So are we gonna get anything related to crack team and the hacking crisis that ocurred in the original plotline? Bandai: Sure, here we have it!! *Puts yet another adventure thing on the table* 1997 era fan: I can't wait more decades for this... *commits aliven't*

I mean, this show did do some interesting things here and there. Devimon straight up tortured Angemon, Tailmon is kind of a downer because it knows it was bad for a while, for a brief second Tai is also affected by the miasma too and gets that dope wrong evolution even if they don't really explore the consequences of that as much; Yamato and TK still have the same relationship of being protective of one another because their parents are divorced, Joe is still a mess of a character because he still has the same pressure on him although it is only implied. I agree that this show really should have had a real world arc where they face their families, but it's not like Digimon completely dropped doing things like that. Heck, even Applimon had "my brother was kidnapped and now I'm edgy", "my family hates that I want to be a youtuber rather than have the family business" and even "I'm so lonely that an emotionless robot is my best friend" Over all I just think that in the 20 years in between adventure 01 and 2020, most writers really just grew up on generic shonen and don't really do much heartfelt anymore, also networks probably don't let you get away with as much for small kids, and there's also the factor that this has a budget and an audience, Adventure 01 was a shot in the dark that needed plot because it could barely pay for animation.

@@jpcsdutra The main issue is that this show is pure references, and you dont have to make a show like this... That shows the elitism the Adventure fans emanate, even in the Digimon fandom.

@@jironamos7650 I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd have taken an Adventure Prequel or an Adventure 03 over a reboot thing anytime if we aren't getting another anthology, but like, I feel like this show justifies itself enough. It references the video games too with Mugendramon and Milleniumon having as much focus as they did, which itself is already stepping away from 01 even if its to reference something else. It's the first show to give people branching evolutions, which is something I think was greatly needed for a while now. It bothered giving all characters their Megas, which 01 and 02 didn't bother with; they didn't go the Gennai route either, which was great because any good plot is brought down with prophecy mumbo jumbo. It feels more like a celebration of everything digimon, like a 20th anniversary special celebration (well, like 25 for the tamagotchi). I like that we see digimon from Frontier and Xross Wars and everything. I think it does a good enough job of being cool and entertaining enough to bring in new kids to the franchise, and gives the old fans enough to point at and be like "oh I get that". I don't think is as offensive as a lot of people have been making it to be. It surely feels a lot less forced than Xross Wars and Applimon to me.

This is a reboot of the original show, but yeah various incarnations of Digimon have been going on forever.