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Digimon VS Pokémon: Then and Now 

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Spoiler Alert for 4 movies, one of which is actually worth watching. Comparing these childhood classics to their modern day counterparts to see which series is better over a 20 year span.
Pokemon 2000: The Power of One
Digimon: the Movie
Pokemon: Secrets of the Jungle
Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna
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@FateViews
@FateViews 2 года назад
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@razkable
@razkable 2 года назад
ash is still in the movies despite no reason given because hes based off the creator so without him the series does not exist so his similarly named character satoshi is the main focus ...live with it.....he knows nothing so exposition can be shouted at him or learned through him...you need a character like him for the audience to understand things through his inclusion not being used to the story going on...cause otherwise you have to do a lot of worldbuilding early on and thats not fun for kids so instead we just get thrusted into it through ash...and learn on the way..its fine...thats why many stories have the fish out of water narrative where a normal kid gets put into a power fantasy and learns the way of the area and saves the day
@fandenovelas777
@fandenovelas777 Год назад
To be honest "having the balls to kill" Pikachu wouldn't be that good since Pokémon has an own universe and rules, and Digimon has anothers, well if u don't like to see good endings might be affected by the part that u only watched good endings films/series or at least i can tell you that after seeing bad ending series... and i can tell you bad endings are very overrated, hell even they tend to be so predictable more than the good ones. I think the most important part of a story never was about if this has a good/bad ending, is about how well written it is.
@GamingintheAM0801
@GamingintheAM0801 Год назад
As Pokemon fans grow, they have to realize that their franchise isn't for them anymore. As Digimon fans grow, they realize that their franchise never forgot them.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
This is even more true in the games. The excuses made for ORAS angered me so much. Like, come on. You _can_ appeal to new fans without pretending the older fans don't exist. A remake is supposed to appeal to both, but because of how they handled ORAS, I can't recommend it to newer fans. The manga and arguably the spinoff games handled it much better.
@LMGamerz40
@LMGamerz40 Год назад
Pokemon in the Philippines GMA Network and GTV (Formerly QTV, Q, GMA News TV, GNTV) Digimon in the Philippines ABS-CBN and Studio 23 (Later S+A) also on All YeY Anime! Before the Franchise renewal.
@rpgfanatic9719
@rpgfanatic9719 Год назад
@@TheAbsol7448 Old features were upgraded so that is appealing to old fans as well as new ones by modernizing those features, the entire purpose of ORAS is in fact to appeal to older fans anyway, not pretending they don't exist. What is digimon's excuse for making featureless bland mediocrity in their games? And what is ORAS's so called bad excuse here, again? the battle frontier, right? When did Digimon ever have even 1 record based survival battle mode let alone a frontier? Also Pokemon always appealed to older fans, doesn't matter what game it was, every past Pokemon has always been programmed into every future gen up to 7. The absolute god of all rpgs vs its coat tailing manga counterpart, even comparing it as apples to oranges, Pokemon mainline is a paragon of a game series than Adventures is as a manga. What spinoffs are you even talking about? Pokken tournament's roster was a joke and the rerelease and the DLC didn't help it at all, and that's the digimon devs' fault no less, the mystery dungeon series is just absolutely bland and repetitive compared to main series which is why it isn't as popular. What's next? Pokemon rumble? Bad. Trozei? generic. Hey you pikachu? Awful. Snap? It's okay but only 2 games in the franchise and the sequel was tedious. Unite? heavily monetized. Pokemon GO was terribly one note but free, so I give it kind of a pass even though they could have just ripped the battle system like MD did.
@rpgfanatic9719
@rpgfanatic9719 Год назад
In what sense is Pokemon not for you anymore or that the franchise forgets older players? A franchise that forgot older players wouldn't release remakes or allow Pokemon from older generations in their new games, but Pokemon took the smash ultimate route for old fans before smash ultimate ever existed.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
@@rpgfanatic9719 "The absolute god of all RPGs" Anyone who's played any RPG outside of Pokémon would strongly disagree with that. Even most Pokémon fans consider it worse than HGSS, FRLG, Emerald, BW, B2W2, and Platinum. The newer remakes don't really do much to appeal to those older players. Sinnoh fans were a lot happier with PLA than BDSP. Sinnoh fans hated BDSP, and I as a huge Hoenn fan despised ORAS for things I've tried endlessly to get you to understand already.
@gordon.sarratt
@gordon.sarratt 2 года назад
I think it’s a totally accurate assessment that digimon chose to grow with its audience, while Pokémon chose to gain a new audience every year or few years. As a fan of both, I don’t dislike either franchise for the decision, but I’m a lot happier with the way digimon ended.
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 2 года назад
@Regulus A move which caused them to stagnant and fell to irrelevance. It's no coincidence that they became a topic nowadays AFTER they announced Tri and multiple merchandising based on taichi's crew.
@stevensiegert
@stevensiegert 2 года назад
@@zebimicio5204 It's not irrelevant when it's above some very known media franchises in terms of revenue.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. C.S. Lewis
@a_cynical_mad_man_vods
@a_cynical_mad_man_vods Год назад
Eh not really ended, just the end of a saga and a way for the series to evolve into something more. We now have a definitive end to the original Digidestineds and the series no longer needs to worry about loose ends with them. Now it's onto new tamers and digidestineds alike with new partners to go through this crazy journey which is life.
@digitized_soul
@digitized_soul 2 года назад
I feel like Digimon was really meant for children and grew for a mature audience while still throwing out seasons in alternative universes for the kids. It really keeps to all audiences. I liked Pokémon when I was a kid but Digimon was all my hyperfixation, FOR YEARS, and even now I rewatch the first three seasons often. It still has that mature quality while also being nostalgic. Pokémon, at least for me, doesn't give off that nostalgia because it was always a constant while Digimon was always changing. I'll always love Digimon. Always ❤
@jean-pierrebenzenique
@jean-pierrebenzenique Год назад
ironically, the same goes with their respective game Pokémon games, at least the mainline ones, tends to repeat its formula again and again with newer generation, new location, new characters and new Pokémon however, Bandai Namco keep changing how Digimon games were preserved, from a farming tamagochi style, to RPG, to card game, battle game, visual novel, et cetera, which is cool, but also the reason why they are failed to contain as much audiences as how Pokémon successfully accomplish I like both franchise, but I feel more attached to Digimon than Pokémon due to their changing nature which keep in check with my growth as a human being as well
@Omenvreer
@Omenvreer Год назад
Pokemon with guns
@rpgfanatic9719
@rpgfanatic9719 Год назад
@@jean-pierrebenzenique Why is Pokemon put on the spot for being a formula that works? Literally every mainline Nintendo game has a formula that they live and die by. "at least the mainline ones" that was a terrible disclaimer because you're continuing to ignore other games and pretend that Pokemon doesn't have a "changing nature" whatever that means. Even mainline games offer more changes than any deviating digimon game.
@inkchariot6147
@inkchariot6147 Год назад
@@Omenvreer Pokemon with actual plot character development
@overanalyzingavatar
@overanalyzingavatar 2 года назад
Holy fuck the end of Last Evolution was a bummer
@thedragonage3033
@thedragonage3033 2 месяца назад
How did you get here and how are there no replies on this
@grapeman807
@grapeman807 16 дней назад
I dont cry easily but holy shit, I could not hold back.
@johnmanahan3463
@johnmanahan3463 2 года назад
Yup. Digimon grew with me in all aspects. Both the games and the anime matured over time to a point where I don't have to tap into my inner child to enjoy them. Had a chuuni phase where I pretended I was Taichi with my Digimon, and fast forward to now, I'm drinking a beer, watching the movie, and seeing Taichi and Yamato drinking made me feel nice. Meanwhile, Pokemon just keeps resetting the premise to attract more audiences, and shows little effort to keep the legacy fans. Every once in a while they do very out of place callbacks in an attempt to pull back long-term fans, but to me, it just feels forced.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
No it really doesn’t I’ve seen every episode ur making assumptions about the anime from an outside perspective Yet tons of legacy fans never left
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
If that’s true why does it have a loyal legacy fanbase I see more fans who are legacy who still watch than I see new fans
@prism8278
@prism8278 Год назад
@@madnessarcade7447 Yo dude relax, this guy just stated their opinion and you're all like "no you're wrong".
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 5 месяцев назад
@@madnessarcade7447Yeah, but it took him over a thousand episodes to do so. Digimon does the same thing in 50 to 60 episodes.
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Год назад
Pokémon has become a nice throwback to your childhood, while Digimon has steadily been about maturing while cherishing that youth.
@SnowCabbageGamer
@SnowCabbageGamer 2 года назад
Another GREAT video! I was able to talk my wife into watching the first Digimon movie a few years ago and she said it's where all of my humor comes from.
@FateViews
@FateViews 2 года назад
It's honestly a classic and I can go back to it at any time and enjoy it a ton!
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
I honestly always had a problem with how Ash never aged, and is only _JUST NOW_ actually growing. If each episode were a day, then he should at _LEAST_ be 13. I hated how each series ended with Ash gaining nothing. It's way too late for development to feel impactful.
@Mogushima
@Mogushima Год назад
To make things even worse, Ash himself stated that becoming a champion trainer is only a single step in reaching his Pokemon master goal which we have no clear information about nor even motivation from Ash anyway but that's beyond the point. What's important is that before it involves 1000+ episodes of just him undergoing this process of a repeating character arc of him failing and trying again and again and that's just at that ONE STEP of his character arc. I don't mind the news spoiling to everyone that Ash became world champion because the Pokemon anime is hard to watch through in a story perspective. And I question the sanity of someone who wants to rewatch that show from square one.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
@@Mogushima I honestly really don't think the show is worth watching past Johto, apart from some movies since those are actually pretty good. It just got _so slow_ that I just didn't bother watching it anymore.
@krisjolt
@krisjolt Год назад
​@@TheAbsol7448 you should definitely watch SM and Journeys. Ash was at his peak in Journeys, and SM is just great
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
@@krisjolt I have zero interest in anything after Johto. It takes almost 1000 episodes after that for the anime to even get anywhere, and by the time it _does_ get somewhere, it's hard to actually care about it. Oh, and the pacing and writing is all over the place, especially when it comes to characters. The 3 characters that were pretty consistent throughout were Jessie, James, and Meowth.
@krisjolt
@krisjolt Год назад
@@TheAbsol7448 *Jessie, and I assure you that you will enjoy SM if you're not malding about art direction
@TheEcoolarg
@TheEcoolarg 2 года назад
Hey man, nice channel. I sorta feel like Digimon finally starting Ghost game kinda proves they still can try new things and not to milk agumon infinitely(I really dont care for Tri, but Kizuna was cool)
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 2 года назад
At least ghost came didn't deviate too much from the original concept of digimon though. Ever since Frontiers came in with the the whole hybrid digivolution thing, digimon ( the anime) has been losing viewer base on a constant basis around the world. They tried to back to basics with savers, but yeah its already too late by that point. Xros wars is all over the palce (which funnily enough, my favourite digimon season other than 01 was young hunters lmao)
@icarue993
@icarue993 Год назад
@@zebimicio5204 The thing is, what is "the original concept" and is it bad that it deviates? Digimon started as a Tamagochi ripoff, so is it taking care of your mons and seeing them die (and turn to poop more often than not)? I dont feel any digimon anime does that. Is the original concept that of Adventures, where they go into the digimon world to save both (real and digital)? In that case, Frontiers is closer than Ghost game... But at the same time, Ghost Games feel closer to Tamers and Data Squad, whose main focus is more the real world and interactions with the digital one. In essense, my point it, Digimon doesnt NEED to stick to something to make it interesting. They could focus on teh relations with the mons and screw the digital part (Like Survive). They could go as if they were Navis from Megaman (Like Cybersleuth), or the interactions between both the digimon and humans (Ghost Games). Compare that to pokemon, where ALL the mainline games are about gyms, exploring the world and capturing mons. (I say mainline because Pokemon SNap, Conquest and Coloseum exist).
@thomasedgar8612
@thomasedgar8612 Год назад
ghost game has been very good in my opinion so far, they take... ALOT of very radical moves for entertainment geared towards children or a good number of anime. i wont spoil what they do with some of the digimon, but its... pretty severe at times
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 5 месяцев назад
Its bad to deviate when you literally dont have a solid base for your franchise. There's a reason why ever since duel masters became an official card game, they stayed a card game, there's a reason why dragon ball stayed as "martial arts" shounen manga. Only digimon apologists uses this excuse of "well its not bad" as a coping mechanism. Its bad regardless if it turned off fans to that extent. Just because they didnt show your digimon turned into sukamon doesn't mean they didnt acknowledge that concept. Your statement about frontiers is literally just the theme of the show. I'm talking about the principle of the franchise itself. How is ghostgame closer to savers and tamers when literally the central plot of ghostgame has nothing close to both? If anything savers is the closest adventures esque digimon you can get after 02. Also how digimon a tamagotchi rip off when its literally a tamagotchi for boys. what's next, you're gonna say witchelny a tamagotchi rip off too? You point is the exact same reason why digimon fell off lmao. Digimon game sales didnt start to have decent footing until they streamlined the turn based rpg into digimon story (yes, CS isn't the first digimon game to do that, its the reason why cs is called digimon story cs) and streamlined digimon world to be an action rpg tamagotchi since redigitize. Have you been a digimon FRANCHISE fan (not the anime) around the early 2000s? I have, its a nightmare in the games department, and when you want to enjoy the anime, they took that away too when they started "experimenting" with frontiers (theres a reason why digimon fell off after frontiers my guy) You try to compare pokemon's mainline game to digimon's whatever mainline is, non of em came close in sales or popularity even go against pokemon's spin off titles. This is why coping about how digimon is innovative without having a core concept is bad since its the main reason why digimon almost went off into obscurity like monster ranchers @@icarue993
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
@@zebimicio5204Frontier’s biggest problem isn’t the lack of partners but how the second half became the Takuya and Kouji show.
@Godzilla-tu2cd
@Godzilla-tu2cd 2 года назад
Digimon for me is a best. The characters change and grew up in front of our eyes and it's sad too see them go. Ash will never hit puberty
@leonardofarias8843
@leonardofarias8843 2 года назад
Maybe after Journeys he will
@Godzilla-tu2cd
@Godzilla-tu2cd 2 года назад
@@leonardofarias8843 I doubt it
@yrlo6308
@yrlo6308 2 года назад
He kinda hit puberty in kalos but they made him a kid again in alola and journeys
@miwestraveler3986
@miwestraveler3986 2 года назад
To me it looks like Ash gets younger every season.
@yarc9
@yarc9 2 года назад
@@miwestraveler3986 he doesn't look younger
@jorgborb
@jorgborb 2 года назад
I'm still drying my tears from the end of Kizuna
@pete4416
@pete4416 2 года назад
for digimon there are a lot of ideas they can still go with, it's like another world with multiple stories so they can really create whatever story they might wish I also love and hate the ending of the kizuna movie at the same time
@hellion0591
@hellion0591 Год назад
Same here, mainly because the current writers are choosing to retcon the happy ending of Adventure 02 and are taking it in a sad direction
@ZephyrOkotsu
@ZephyrOkotsu 10 месяцев назад
​@@hellion0591i feel like they'll add on to the 02 ending
@hellion0591
@hellion0591 10 месяцев назад
@@ZephyrOkotsu From the looks of things, all of the Adventure digidestined will eventually lose their digimon for good because of this stupid time limit their digimon now have. The digidestined could still have a happy ending, but their digimon should be there with them.
@ZephyrOkotsu
@ZephyrOkotsu 10 месяцев назад
@@hellion0591 due to the whole, growing up thing of Digimon causing them to lose their partners,I'm pretty sure they get them back some way or another, not forgetting that the 02 ending is still very much canon and not retconned until further notice
@hellion0591
@hellion0591 10 месяцев назад
​@@ZephyrOkotsu That could be possible, but I still don't like where they seem to be taking the story of Adventure
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 2 года назад
Honestly, digimon is better in so many ways
@The_MEMEphis
@The_MEMEphis 2 года назад
the main adventure series is but the spin off series are pretty weak and the reboot is hot garbage
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 2 года назад
@@The_MEMEphis the world games are great. They are basically the keychains brought into video game form. Personally I think that's awesome
@The_MEMEphis
@The_MEMEphis 2 года назад
@@sonic-bb I was talking about the spin off tv shows mainly not the video games
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 2 года назад
@@The_MEMEphis ohhh but most people agree that the shows are better than Pokemons anime. I haven't seen too many skin offs tho. Only ghost game. But I thought that was pretty good
@The_MEMEphis
@The_MEMEphis 2 года назад
@@sonic-bb adventure 1,2 and tri are all really good but past that most of the shows are pretty weak tamers is the only one worth watching, frontier, data squad, and fusion are all really hard to watch and completely ruin the original concept
@nintendolife25
@nintendolife25 Год назад
As someone who is a fan of both Pokémon and Digimon, I have to agree with you. It’s the reason why I never cared about any of the newer movies Pokemon created anymore. It just feels like the same inconsequential status quo. Digimon Kizuna single-handedly caught my attention and have a far more interesting premise. To this day, I still find it not just a great Digimon film but a great film in general.
@JoeyBoey-rl3uj
@JoeyBoey-rl3uj Год назад
The sad truth is that Pokémon ironically never evolved, just as it refuses to let ash grow up or age, it has failed to change what so ever since it’s inception. However Digimon has always been something that was comfortable with change, regardless of its popularity it has grown, it’s matured, it’s grows and can appeal to fans new and old.
@norrisjohnson6032
@norrisjohnson6032 Год назад
The minute grows up the anime is finished
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
@@norrisjohnson6032 They could just write a new character. Or... You know... Animate the manga that's existed since 1997. And is _still_ getting new volumes.
@babyseal8822
@babyseal8822 4 месяца назад
I'm glad they evolve now
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
@@TheAbsol7448 Exactly. Give someone else a chance in the spotlight.
@crowdust61
@crowdust61 2 года назад
I was never actually into digimon, but I did own that movie you mentioned. I remember watching it over and over because I was so weirdly mesmerised by it.
@radioactivebirdj.1845
@radioactivebirdj.1845 2 года назад
Digimon anime feel a lot more like actual anime. Pokemon is too faithful to the games. I think if it ended at like Ruby & Sapphire I wouldn't mind, but this show (technically multiple shows) has been the same shit for twenty years. Also the Last Evolution Kizuna ending is a bit misleading. The writers have confirmed that 02's epilogue is canon so Agumon and Gabumon will be revived at some point down the road.
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 2 года назад
Pokemon isn't really faithful to the games at all lol
@Red.Decimo
@Red.Decimo 2 года назад
Since when was the Pokemon anime too faithful to the games? LMAO
@therighteousshinobi2785
@therighteousshinobi2785 2 года назад
I think it was too lose and too faithful at the same time. The problem is that the Pokemon anime doesn't take much advantage of its less grounded battle system. We could have had more moments where Ash and co win their battles with actual tactics than some fairy tail style plot armor to the point where type matchups and levels are thrown out the window. And it didn't try to be its own thing either. It's 90% faithful to the plot formula of the game. I don't mind focusing on the adventure aspect but it would be cool to have character centric episodes that flesh them out without having to shoehorn Ash and team rocket in than seeing them remain as one dimensional characters doing random shenanigans. Why do the villainous team or legendary subplots do little to nothing for the characters' development? Instead we only got a mindless uninspired glorified toy commercial aimed for 5 year olds.
@lyteabhishek
@lyteabhishek 2 года назад
Why won't it be. That's why it's still relevant. Anime's purpose is make games and merch popular among children and that's it's highest grossing media franchise with more than 100B while Digimon struggling for 5 billion.
@therighteousshinobi2785
@therighteousshinobi2785 2 года назад
@@lyteabhishek So in other words, Pokemon is like the fast food of anime. Low quality but managed to sell like hotcakes.
@itachi65ful
@itachi65ful Год назад
Digimon also made spinoffs for new fans while continuing the original. Digimon always had more mature themes than pokemon unless you want to go into the pokemon manga.
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 5 месяцев назад
what spin off? They never had a "mainline" anything other than the tamagotchi.
@itachi65ful
@itachi65ful 5 месяцев назад
@@zebimicio5204 I'm not sure what that has to do with anything...
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 5 месяцев назад
You said digimon made spin offs. How do they even made spin off when they have no "mainline" of anything other than the tamagotchi. You can literally consider any season of the anime or any series of the games as spin offs because there is no such thing as "core" digimon. Simple statement my guy @@itachi65ful
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
@@zebimicio5204 Each season outside of the first two take place in completely different universes.
@mupasaex
@mupasaex Год назад
The main difference between Digimon and Pokémon is that the latter is still appeals to young viewers, while Digimon does not. For this reason Pokémon can continue with the same tricks, while Digimon has to find a way to attract its older fans who are now an adults. You can see them trying different strategies, like using nostalgia with the movies "Tri" and "Kizuna" which continue the original story, "Digimon Adventure 2020" which reboots the original series, or in going for more mature content (as much as you can with a kids oriented show) like with the new season "Ghost Game" which puts more emphasis on horror stories with quite a bit of fan service for old fans. But rest assured that if Digimon were to achieve the same popularity as Pokemon did, then we could have only dream of content like Kizuna or Ghost Game.
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
I agree. It would be great if Digimon was more popular that they are able to keep the quality up.
@baahbyjoe4850
@baahbyjoe4850 2 года назад
I've never been able to get into Pokemon. It's always been digimon for me.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
I'd recommend the Mystery Dungeon games, the manga, some of the older games, and Legends: Arceus over whatever shit they were putting out between XY and PLA. Pokémon has a lot of genuinely great stuff that I could recommend to people who aren't already into it.
@karufon96
@karufon96 2 года назад
Digimon > Pokemon anytime
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 2 года назад
Pokémon is more popular though.
@M87.683
@M87.683 Год назад
@@KyleEvra so? A more popular series does not make the show any better? That's basically saying demon slayer is better than berserk because it's more popular.
@Justice4397
@Justice4397 2 года назад
Digimon: has a story ,evolves their characters (not just genetically) and keeps deep messages with no memory wipes. Pokemon: has advertisement, has reds weaker and stagnate counterpart and forces him into a movie
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 2 года назад
I used to think like you until I see the bigger picture. Digimon had better story....until tamers that is. The fanbase fell off ever since frontiers, and came back after towei/bamco decided to pull a pokemon move and bait fans with nostalgia bait with releaseing tri. Even then, the movie/anime has overwhelmingly split opinion on how good/bad it was. Now as much as people love to shit on pokemon anime (me still being one of them), we have to realize that ash being the face of pokemon for over 20+ years is what kept pokemon being one of the largest brands in history that competes with the likes of doraemon and marvel. This was a design choice rather than them not capable of doing so ( i mean just look at how compelling and gorgeous the multiple pokemon anime shorts were). And funnily enough, ever since frontiers and prior to ghost game (I'm not acknowledging appmon as digimon no matter how many people try to say it is), pokemon (the anime) had wayyy higher views and ratings than digimon (the anime) ever wished for. People made the arguament that change characters=better is mostly in spite towards ash than criticism towards the actual plot and story structure itself. At least ghost game is somewhat competing with ratings with pokemon nowadays.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Ash is stronger than red tho lmao
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Red won one league of five trainers If you count all the leagues ash participated in and number of participants ash has beaten like 600 trainers Top 10 each league of 100+ trainers plus 50 gym badges Defeated the battle frontier Like 20 clubsplosion tournaments Defeated all the evil teams The loss of 6 leagues is nothing compared to how many people he’s beaten in the the entire history of the anime And he’s the champion of alola and now the 4th strongest trainer in the entire Pokémon world I know you have a hard on for red but you don’t have to be stupid too Ash has accomplished way more than red has Yea he beat the kanto league but that’s a measly 5 trainers plus the eight gyms and Giovanni that’s 14 trainers In 20 seasons of the anime ash has beaten hundreds/thousands
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Not to mention ash can control aura and has access to every game mechanic
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
@@zebimicio5204 Funny, because Tamers is actually highly regarded in the community. Also just because it’s more popular doesn’t mean that Pokémon is the better anime.
@inmybestdaysidontdocrack
@inmybestdaysidontdocrack 2 года назад
I had the same problem with Pokémon. But I would super recommend reading the Pokémon Adventure/Special (the name depends on the translation) would be an amazing read. Like it’s more mature, and kinda fits like us as adults now but also has the nostalgia of the old Pokémon anime and games
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@mattiasolsson1523
@mattiasolsson1523 Год назад
Digimon and Pokémon has both pros and cons But i like them both.
@albertusanghartono4346
@albertusanghartono4346 2 года назад
I like Digimon's storyline more than Pokemon. But I enjoy last arc of Pokemon's XYZ and Sword Shield's arc on Pokemon Journeys
@nschannel826
@nschannel826 Год назад
I will never forgive the first Digimon movie for what it did to Hurricane Touchdown. It's seriously one of the darkest and most unsettling Digimon movies and they ruined it by trying to pass it off as a sequel to another movie that it had ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION TO
@kleberson777
@kleberson777 9 месяцев назад
When Pikachu refuse to evolve since season 1. It's been clear that Pokemon theme revolve around "never changing/stay the same". That include the series and video game. While Digimon is about growing up and learn to live with it
@anabear9485
@anabear9485 Год назад
Funniest thing being, I also recently stopped enjoying Pokemon content. Sure, I was hyped when I found out Ash used a move he had created in Dp series and enjoyed the games until Swsh. Digimon has always tried new things and even in their stories, though problematic, still resonate with me. I cried watching Kizuna because much like everyone else I don't want to grow up, but the world moves around us and no one is going to wait for us to catch up with reality.
@luckypickl3817
@luckypickl3817 2 года назад
Man I used to follow digimon and pokemon great video
@realcookiemon
@realcookiemon 2 года назад
the thing is the reason pokemon is popular is because as you said it aims at the young demographic but it will make those kids leave that demographic when they grow up except for the adults that choose to stay with the franchise (which is ok) meanwhile digimon chooses to go for all ages and still be friendly enough for kids take 2020 and ghost game for example especially ghost game even tho it has 6 episodes released atm and its kind of a horror show THEY STILL MADE IT APPEAL TO KIDS somehow i don't hate pokemon but while watching the old anime and stuff (i never grew up with it) i just kinda notice how there is just no writing and no story just shove ash here and there and woohoo pikachu is there too and hey pikachu is shocking team rocket and there they go its always that scenario meanwhile digimon has a completely different story every episode/every anime yes you can argue that oh they are fighting a bad guy and they need to stop him and stuff but its how the characters grow and what happens during that fight that determines how good that anime is (btw i never finished all the old animes of pokemon i only finished the oldest one that is the first season and watched a few episodes of the indigo league the english dub is fucking awful)
@zeanzern4396
@zeanzern4396 2 года назад
I agree, Ghost Game is another great series in the Digimon Franchise! #Digimonarethechampion
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
They have had a bigger focus on story since those old seasons so ur knowledge is outdated So ur making ignorant nonsensical assumptions about shit you know barely anything about
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
I didn't really mind the anime's format, but after Johto, it started to get really stale since they didn't really seem to have any ideas for what to do with Ash. I kinda wish they listened to that one writer for Pokémon Heroes and had Ash take Latias with him to Hoenn. That might have encouraged the writers to actually make him grow.
@vgarzareyna
@vgarzareyna 2 года назад
This video could perfectly have been 30mins to an hour, but well... Also "like an evil Peter Pan" Kind assumes Peter Pan wasn't evil lol
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 Год назад
Menoa might actually be LESS evil than Peter Pan if you read the original novel....
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
@@DrawciaGleam02I know she is the main villain but like with Maki, I couldn’t help but feel a bit bad for her. It doesn’t excuse her behavior of course but like Oikawa, she is a tragic character.
@ironbaysqiureg4827
@ironbaysqiureg4827 2 года назад
This also reflects in the games as well because while pokemon has have stagnated in the current year to appoint where it's self destructing into itself. Digimon Has inbraced multiple different things. where mostly the core formula of the World Series is touched upon every couple years that's making them better and different every time except of nauseating repetition. Yes pokemon has had spin on us but if it isn't something we call the rescue team most of them just usually fall on the wayside as a gimmick. Also helps that the games also have tackled harder stuff The most pokemon even dream of even from the very beginning where it happens the very beginning where it has the concept of literal your pet dies.
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 2 года назад
Pokemon hasn't self disturct though. The game where people were being all doom and gloom and claimed that the franchise loose their fanbse (swsh) is ironically the best selling and high rated pokemon game in the 21st century. Digimon on the other literally only have 1 (2 if you count HM as a seperate entry on itself) that can be considered decent at best (I love CS btw, I'm one of the few people that joined Haseo's project redigitize petition to localize cs and redigitze back in 2014). it took another miracle for bamco to reach that standards again, considering how poorly next order did in both sales and game quality. As for embracing change, that was literally the cause of digimon's branding downfall. The anime triued to change way too much from tamers to xros wars that people lose interest. The games barely had any presence due to bamco can't decide what world is gonna be about until redigitize came in and made the gameplay of 3d vpet a standard. And it is also no coincidence that people started to get into digimon again BECAUSE of tri (as much as people try to hate on that show). Digimon literally did a pokemon move in doing nostalgia bate with the adventures reboot, and it worked! Also, in terms of themes, Digimon can get away with vpets dying because...well they're digital pets,they can also revive afterwards. Pokemon on the other hand is portrayed as "organic beings", and they already had flack for the entire cock fighting concept, it would be way more of an issue with parents when you literally can see your pokemon die from battle!
@lyteabhishek
@lyteabhishek 2 года назад
Wtf is this post. Pokemon is biggest media franchise and earning billions with its games and merch while Digimon just trying to be alive.
@Logank192
@Logank192 2 года назад
@@zebimicio5204, I hope you're aware that lots of sales doesn't mean something is better. A single entry of CoD can outsell entire game franchises, but it's just copy/paste mediocrity. People hate SwSh because of the stripped features, lack of content, lies and 50% price bump for a worse product than the 3DS games.
@Logank192
@Logank192 2 года назад
@@lyteabhishek because lots of sales means something is good, right?
@lyteabhishek
@lyteabhishek 2 года назад
@@Logank192 yes obviously. If millions of people buying there game every year, there has to be something good that pokemon is doing. It's not possible for 10s millions of people to spend $60 on a game which they are not enjoying. It's nice to make joke about how pokemon fans hate Pokemon but from outside you don't know crazily same fans are into pokemon. Everything minor/major things in Pokemon is followed.
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 Год назад
…its funny. In the series where the digital monsters die but can be reborn, the stakes feel so much higher. In a series where most of the monsters are fully flesh and blood, where human-pokemon interactions happen every day (and people know how dangerous these creatures can be), where there are countless Villain organizations….it just doesn’t hit quite as hard. Good thing Pokémon Adventures Manga picks up some of that slack.
@beautifulsoul9477
@beautifulsoul9477 2 года назад
Just thought I'd stop and give this a watch. Never knew they made another and FINAL addition to the Digimon movie, never watched it..but I lost it at Agumon and Gabumon actually leaving. Like wow that's how you know that Digimon was soo impressionable and even without me watching, I would say that is how you end something.
@kodakazu8
@kodakazu8 2 года назад
What do you think of Digimon Ghost Game so far?
@danielmedela8725
@danielmedela8725 Год назад
Everyone that watched the ending to Adventure 02 knows they won´t stay dead... every other plot point of Tri and Last Evolution Kizuna points to that time-skip ending to be canon.
@bayraktarx1386
@bayraktarx1386 Год назад
Pokémon games are exactly like movies.. same story repeating every year.
@highwan9513
@highwan9513 Год назад
The digimon move was originally 3 separate movie im from germany and we only got the american version that made one movie out of them but i still like to rewatch it from time to time Digimon will always be special to me and i get that people feel the same for pokemon but tbh i really only liked the games as a kid
@dereklyma6310
@dereklyma6310 Год назад
I love both franchises, but.. I absolutely love Digimon :) and I cried a lot watching Last Kizuna lol
@AnomalySource
@AnomalySource 2 года назад
Holy shit you hit 1k subs I remember when you had 10 subs
@FateViews
@FateViews 2 года назад
My guy! You're back!
@AnomalySource
@AnomalySource 2 года назад
@@FateViews glad to be back
@avrinrose5457
@avrinrose5457 2 года назад
Can you talk about Kaitou Joker?
@SaitenX
@SaitenX Месяц назад
"So there's this giant enemy crab"
@TheKarlinus
@TheKarlinus 2 года назад
hello mr fateviews do u smoke irl or is ti just ur pfp? :) good video (y)
@FateViews
@FateViews 2 года назад
I do, but I don't recommend anyone who doesn't to!
@ThatDepressedFiyosh
@ThatDepressedFiyosh Год назад
this video perfectly summed up why I don't watch pokemon anymore but still watch digimon
@bartimaeusn7863
@bartimaeusn7863 Год назад
Well to be fair, both francise are huge part of my life but none of pokemon movie ever hits the spot like last evolution kizuna did. It is officially digimons way to say sayonara & thankyou to us who grow up with them.
@icemanfreezezing
@icemanfreezezing Год назад
Digimon has the story and love, Pokémon has the games. That’s it.
@Ezrathescribe27
@Ezrathescribe27 Год назад
Not correct, Digimon last evolution is in fact a direct sequel to Digimon Tri, it's set 5 years after Digimon tri, it's not a reboot or spin off by any means
@Accelerated-Velocity
@Accelerated-Velocity Год назад
Yes but you don’t really need to know a lot abt tri to understand last evo because it barely brings up tris events
@iman-2880
@iman-2880 2 года назад
great video. this is exactly how i feel about the two series. its really sad how the pokemon anime keeps dumbing down for kids and not equally catering it with long time fans of the show. it shouldve ended after master quest. digimon on the other hand keeps getting better and better becuase it acknowledges its long time fans. thats why i like digimon anime and movies better than pokemon.
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 2 года назад
i'd agree with the dumbing down part, but that's mostly because the ywant to cater to new audiences, hence adults watching the anime and questioning why the plot stagnats is weird. Now for the digimon anime "quality" arguament, that onlly worked for the adventure's series. After that, their quality has been all over the place. There's a reason why people fell off from the digimon anime until tri came in, and that's because of lack of continuty that lead most people feeling detached from digimon. The only digimon anime i can think of that has as high of a review other than the adventures universe were tamers. And we haven't had any digimon movies since kizuna, even then, the ratings aren't any better. In fact, most pokemon movies were reviewed higher than digimon.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
They didn’t dumb anything down something tells me u didn’t watch the new seasons
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
@@zebimicio5204 Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
I don't think it really needed to end after Master Quest. It would've been fine if they took the anime in a more interested direction instead of just doing "more of what we did before." Did you know that one of the writers for Pokémon Heroes wanted Ash to take Latias with him? They could've done something very interesting with that.
@zelz3011
@zelz3011 Год назад
Digimon SLAPS! Pokémon has games. Also mad respect for you actually putting the é in the Pok.
@doctorbillsans9492
@doctorbillsans9492 2 года назад
Hold up, don’t diss the Lugia movie! That’s the movie I grew up with. On a side note, I will always prefer Digimon, but still. Leave the Lugia movie alone.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
The Pokémon movies were generally better than the anime as a whole, though I've heard that the movies that came out after XY weren't that good.
@p3mcthedoor32
@p3mcthedoor32 Год назад
Though you gotta admit he has a point. Remove nostalgia and looking at it critically the movie is nothing more than a legendary Pokemon commercial with not much substance to it. Just like every other Pokemon movie. Painfully mid stories, plot holes, Ash is always shoehorned in not because he's essential to the story but because he's the main character.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
@@p3mcthedoor32 I thought Heroes had a genuinely engaging story. The one movie that I felt was a totally blatant commercial was the XY one with a bunch of legendaries.
@endeavor3406
@endeavor3406 9 месяцев назад
We don't talk about the Angela Anaconda part...
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny Год назад
I LOVE BOTH SERIES..but gotta be honest..its understandable how they PROLONG THEIR franchises
@jamcatplexer5825
@jamcatplexer5825 Год назад
im at least glad that the digimon aren't actually "dead" due to 02's ending still being canon.
@blazeburner4832
@blazeburner4832 2 года назад
I'm your 200th liked
@TurKlack
@TurKlack Год назад
Now all Digimon has to do is to leave the "With the Power of Love and Friendship" Trope. Honestly some kind evolution would be nice. Adding some natural rules to their world. Or hell make the Digital world something like God that on an instinctive level tries to be more like the "real" world. Well. Honestly I'm just daydreaming here. But since Pokemon refuses to change I think Digimon would be perfect to gather a new audience. Especially when it's more mature themed movies and few games seem to resonate with a lot of the older Fans.
@Hyperneosonic97
@Hyperneosonic97 Год назад
"Now all Digimon has to do is to leave the "With the Power of Love and Friendship" Trope. " Such a thing is quite literally impossible because it's literally hard baked into Digimon's very core. Even as early as the series' inception as a virtual pet, *before the Digimon anime was even a thing,* the theme of 'treat your Digimon well and you will be rewarded with strength' was always there since the beginning. It's well-established Digimon lore that a strong bond with a Digimon can induce evolutions. Most Digimon games even use this as a game mechanic! It's so hard baked into the series that removing it would fundamentally make it not a Digimon work.
@svin7987
@svin7987 9 месяцев назад
I can't live without the Pokemon anime.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Pokémon is a unique one of a kind franchise it has its own approach on things it does it’s own style
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 Год назад
True that
@cherryraid1129
@cherryraid1129 Год назад
digimon has always been a story of kids growing up in a fantastical world so I think last evolution kizuna was the perfect cap to their story
@Shootingfoul
@Shootingfoul Год назад
Why was Tai trying to hide his porn from Agumon? I think it is better to be honest and explain to Agumon the nature of humans. You eventually realize, trying to be embarrassed about being attracted to the female body is like trying to apologize for human nature. Everyone will be asexual if humans were not meant to be attracted to each other and the specie would go extinct.
@DnDStroytime
@DnDStroytime Год назад
Digimon is better in every single way it just failed to gain traction among the degenerates, this is exactly why One Piece is more successful than other much better shounen like Bleach, Dragonball, etc
@geofflao5321
@geofflao5321 2 года назад
gonna go watch kizuna now tbh
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
My problem with Last Evolution is that the epilogue is still canon and while Agumon and Gabumon are gone for now they will return.
@endeavor3406
@endeavor3406 9 месяцев назад
Umm Tai... What were those magazines Tai? Tai, what the fuck were those magazines?
@yrlo6308
@yrlo6308 2 года назад
Avatar The Legend Of Korra episodes ranked when?
@zeanzern4396
@zeanzern4396 2 года назад
Both are good Digimon 💙 Pokemon 💛
@Masonicon
@Masonicon Год назад
Digimon 02's failures was blueprint for current Pokemon anime's stale formula
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 Год назад
...you have a point. seeing a competitor fail when they constantly change things up encentivizes you to change as litle as possible
@straightbusta257
@straightbusta257 Год назад
You pointed out the reason why I don't like 95% of the Pokemon movies. They're like extended versions of a typical Pokemon anime episode but even more pointless. Ash and co meet some random people with a problem. Exposition. Generic filler baddies appear. Legendary/Mythical Pokemon save the day. Ash and movie characters we'll never see again part ways. After that they acted like nothing happened. Rinse and repeat. And I hate how they always shove Ash and his companions in just to contribute almost nothing or even worse made him a mary sue chosen one character and rob a movie characters' potential. They all made Detective Pikachu look like Forrest Gump lol.
@zylynlamis9285
@zylynlamis9285 Год назад
As pokemon progress the graphics gets crappier. I love digimon because of the attention to detail. While pokemon on the other hand they do lazy drawings now. I hate the new pokemons. Gets more childish and nonsense
@LMGamerz40
@LMGamerz40 7 месяцев назад
Italians and Filipinos we remember that Digimon and pokemon aired in 2 completely different channels that competes each other As where Italians Digimon airs on RAI at Rai 2 (4th of Sep. 2000) and Rai Gulp (Fusion) [maybe simulcast with Rai 2] Pokemon airs on Mediaset at Italia 1 (2000-2006) Boing (Pokemon DP) K2 (BW and XY) Ended when digimon fusion ended As where Filipinos Digimon airs on ABS-CBN and Studio 23 in 2nd of June 2000 Pokemon airs on GMA Network in Oct 1 1999 and GNTV now GTV in 2019 Ended when ABS-CBN lost it's franchise in courtesy of the congressman deleting and denying it.
@adamcunningham9947
@adamcunningham9947 2 года назад
Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory are far better than any Pokémon game, in fact the Cyber Sleuth games are my favourite turn based RPGs
@yarc9
@yarc9 2 года назад
it only one rpg
@adamcunningham9947
@adamcunningham9947 2 года назад
@@yarc9 Two RPGs actually, they are different games and what's your point?
@yarc9
@yarc9 2 года назад
@@adamcunningham9947 pokemon is only interested in trying to sell you the video game digimon only interested in trying to sell you the story
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 2 года назад
@@adamcunningham9947 HM is a "expansion" of CS. It's literally like the third version of a pokemon game. And I know it's your opinion and all...but most digimon games (CS included) have mediocre to bad reviews. Let's not get into how bad teh game design CS has with how a grindfest it is (that's just the surface of my criticism) And this is coming from a guy who literally bugged his close friends to sign a petition to localize redigitize and cs to the west back in 2014...
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
@@adamcunningham9947 if they are different games then you can’t compare them they do their own thing
@rawkth5996
@rawkth5996 Год назад
Shit man I haven't watch any of the new digimon or the old sereis in ages.
@chimuoma390
@chimuoma390 Год назад
Chronomon HM Solos The Pokeverse!Chrono DSR!Holy Flare!Corona!
@kaneko.ayano.20X
@kaneko.ayano.20X 2 года назад
Bakugan
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 Год назад
Alas
@syxpcotic9452
@syxpcotic9452 2 года назад
I think Ash will grow up when people stop giving pokemon attention, as long as they keep making money using the same formula nothing is gonna change, I believe that if they take a more mature approach to pokemon in general more people who gravitate towards it old and young, if they made it more mature, more serious, more violent more romance etc just turn ash 16 or something
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@syxpcotic9452
@syxpcotic9452 Год назад
@@madnessarcade7447 dude almost no adult is watching that anime and if the oh audience isn't watching it, it means they aren't doing a good job keeping people around
@paquitalopez3846
@paquitalopez3846 2 года назад
Well
@justadude274
@justadude274 2 года назад
Yugioh
@LMGamerz40
@LMGamerz40 Год назад
IN THE PHILIPPINES POKEMON- GMA 7, QTV 11, GNTV 27, GTV 27 DIGIMON- ABS-CBN 2, STUDIO 23, ALL YEY! ANIME MARATHON (SKY CABLE CHANNEL 1)
@yrlo6308
@yrlo6308 2 года назад
It’s been over ten years and I’m still made that they reset ash in Unova… sinnoh itself could’ve been and should’ve been the end of pokémon
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
They didn’t reset him you just misinterpreted it No it wasn’t his time and still isn’t Ash should go out on his own terms If they ended in sinnoh he wouldn’t be the second strongest trainer in the world Beating Cynthia on the first try Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@rayplaysgamesrpg7233
@rayplaysgamesrpg7233 Год назад
Actually, Sinnoh WAS gonna be the end. End of Pokémon. Though I guess Nintendo, or The Pokémon Company, had other plans
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
@@madnessarcade7447 He lost to an untrained Snivy. What are you talking about?
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
@@rayplaysgamesrpg7233 I'm kinda glad it wasn't because we got the Gen 5 games, but I wish they pushed ORAS back by a year and made Pokémon Z to actually finish Kalos. I can at least forgive them for XY being unfinished since it was ever first big 3D game(Game Freak had no involvement in the spin-offs), but they had no such excuse for everything after that.
@davless152000
@davless152000 2 года назад
I remember in 99 everyone thought digimon would get popular yeahhhhh right lol but tbh pokemon anmie needs to end it's been 23 years
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 5 месяцев назад
Or at least change its protagonist every few seasons.
@R0m0n3
@R0m0n3 2 года назад
I keep saying pokemon needs a/some mature spinoff series.
@leonardofarias8843
@leonardofarias8843 2 года назад
And it makes digimon Tri hide itself in shame
@entity5x4w-official42
@entity5x4w-official42 2 года назад
actually, there are waayy more mature stuff in the Pokémon anime and especially in side pokemon anime.
@RivanEXT99
@RivanEXT99 2 года назад
I wish they'd stop with the "Pokemon aren't inherently evil they're are just misunderstood and it's humans who are evil" thing.
@entity5x4w-official42
@entity5x4w-official42 2 года назад
@@RivanEXT99 why are you living in the 1300's
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 2 года назад
Play fangames of Pokémon. There!, problem solved.
@iklantloin4593
@iklantloin4593 Год назад
A accurate assessment is that Digimon focuses more on the characters while Pokemon focuses more on the companions
@TheDigimonGuy
@TheDigimonGuy Год назад
Digimon>>>pokemon And yes i am bais
@mono_akumu
@mono_akumu Год назад
TLDR digimon is better and i stand by that. pokemon was good for a few years but I don't remember much as I only really say D&P, B&W and XYZ
@lonniethewaffle
@lonniethewaffle 2 года назад
Yea pokemon seems like it won't mature past the age of 11 or 12 audience. Digimon is willing to go back and forward in my opinion mature audience and younger audience. But japan pokemon is the same way but American pokemon just for younger audience like story and censorship wise.
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah 2 года назад
Censorship is more of a cultural thing, and not specifically an "American Pokemon" think. Digimon has gotten censored in the US as well, although one instance leading to something good was that is caused Sistermon Ciel to be an official digimon that was even in the newest anime. The US is more known for it's censorship (Like Fox Kids in general) but don't treat it as specifically an "American" thing. Beast Wars was "Beasties" in Canada because you can't have Wars in the title for a kids cartoon (although this is more of an un-censorship), Europe had "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles", and despite Soul Calibur being a weapons based fighter, a "samurai" is problematic for some countries, leading to Mitsurugi being " "replaced" " by Arthur.
@zebimicio5204
@zebimicio5204 2 года назад
Tbh, they had better chance of staying relevant if they actually stick to their original premise rather than tryint to experiment too much and end up falling from grace. Yugioh is still famous because of how familiar their card games are, even their anime taht has chaning characters often, still performs better than digimon. and that is mostly due to them keeping the familiarity of yugioh than trying to reinvent so much like digimon did (they were all over the place in both anime and games that people lose interest in the whole brand itself) It is not a coincidence that digimon became a topic nowadays AFTER they released tri... a sequel to adventures, not only that, we got nothing BUT adventures content (appmon doesnt count due to how different is, even by digimon standards). Ghost game was the first thing we get other than adventures series ever since 2015!
@stevensiegert
@stevensiegert 2 года назад
@@zebimicio5204 It's good to experiment from time to time. You can observe and analyze to make conclusions for future series and if a new concept fruits then you'll have a higher viewership than in previous series. Changes can be a nice refreshment in comparison to sticking with the same stuff which can easily get boring after the third or fourth time. Digimon is trying to be fluid instead of stagnant.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
Pokémon has its own way of growing with its audience they show that through ash’s progression as a trainer instead of his age Ash started as a rookie now he’s the second strongest trainer in the world He just beat Cynthia On his first try He gradually progressed throughout the years There’s no resetting nonsense
@dwainsimmons3447
@dwainsimmons3447 Год назад
@@RippahRooJizah you mean 4kids and I see that Saban didn’t heavily altered the anime as much.
@bacd-nn2lg
@bacd-nn2lg Год назад
Digimon always tries to innovate with everything from the scratch, and Pokemon is just stuck in its archaic corporate formula with boring now main cast.😵‍💫
@dwainsimmons3447
@dwainsimmons3447 Год назад
I think the real reason why people say that Digimon is better than Pokemon has to do with the dub.
@Me3v5god
@Me3v5god 2 года назад
Haha skull Greymon
@sirspookybones1118
@sirspookybones1118 Год назад
Digimon also has the better card game
@leont6813
@leont6813 Год назад
I do hate Pokemon, but only because I'm so dissappointed that the franchise became little more than a product made for the masses. A product that will never get out of it's status quo of dumbass, uncreative easy games for children and overpriced cards. At least Digimon has a narrative that matters, and shows the growth and change of their characters, and it matters, unlike Pokemon, in which every episode is a soft reset and everything goes back to normal.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
I hate what Pokémon is now(Legends: Arceus was pretty good, though), but I do have a very deep attachment to older Pokémon media. The anime was pretty good until after Johto(the movies were good until after XY), the games were good until after XY, and I hear that the manga and spin-offs are still going strong. I hope to every existing god that Scarlet and Violet will be at least as good as Legends: Arceus.
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
Same here and also fans who claim Digimon is a rip-off when it’s clearly it own thing. The Pokémon company can do so much better.
@julianstern8588
@julianstern8588 Год назад
Pokemon = 1 piz
@malbrojay4740
@malbrojay4740 Год назад
I'm afraid you may be suffering from a case of bad taste my friend because Pokemon 2000 was great lol
@lyteabhishek
@lyteabhishek 2 года назад
It's just funny how so many people criticize pokemon for being successful and highest grossing media franchise and praise Digimon who is trying to remain relevant. Pokemon must have taken correct to stand here but what can I say about pokemon haters.
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 Год назад
I think is people starting to notice the stagnation in mainline Pokemon anime, games , and movies. Yeah the formula is good, but its been repeated so much it just doesnt stick as well as it use to. And most people only know about the mainline stuff, not the spin-offs; Some of the spin-off games and anime look absolutely great and its a shame they dont get more love (alas conquest, you were too good for this world) Pokemon is successful because it hit several diffrent factors (good gameplay, simplicity, good/innoffensive creature designs, child friendly focus, brilliant marketting) and came out at the right time (Few monster catcher games/franchises, 90s coolness, Anime interest in the West). Pokemon rode the wave, but now things are different. The kids have grown up, the glasses are coming off, people want more bang for thier buck. Unfortunately, Pokemon isnt delivering like it was years ago. And now there are more monster catching options. People are more aware, and more willing to try out these options. And despite being in Pokemons shadow this whole time, Digimon has survived in its own little bubble with a wide variety of content for newcomers and returners to enjoy (is it all good? NO, but alot of it is still enjoyable). Heck, monster rancher made a bit of a comeback last year; of the 90's franchises, NOONE expected Monster Rancher to come back. As for the actually Haters.... I remember there were alot of child politics reguarding tv shows back in the day. Considering Pokemons dominance, expressing your love for any other monster catcher was heresy to some. So those kids kept quiet, and Pokemon fans continued to express thier love for the franchise they though was good. You know this isn't anything recent, this is over 2 decades long. While some of the haters are baseless and just wanna hate, others come from decades of Pokemon fandom abuse (which is more understandable). Not saying pokemon lovers dont get abused as well, thats just my thoughts from what ive seen and heard over the years. if you've read this far, thank you. just some final remarks: its okay to acknowlwdge the flaws in somethng you love, it doesnt make you any less of a fan if you seek more from something, try looking into similar niches/franchises to see if you find it there (this also doesnt make you any less of a fan) Fandom wars are largely dumb, ignore em if you can popularity and sales does not equal to quality (I wish it was, some things would be so much easier) just because something is seen as "bad" doesnt mean YOU wont enjoy it (bad movie connoisseurs, where you at)
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
I don't think anyone is criticizing Pokémon for being successful. People are criticizing it for how little effort is put into a lot of its media. Especially lately when that lack of effort has sapped directly into the core mainline games.
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 5 месяцев назад
@@TheAbsol7448Exactly, Pokémon being more successful then Digimon isn’t going to make me like Digimon less.
@feathersnovex3331
@feathersnovex3331 2 года назад
Anime sub users: EXCUSE ME OMNIMON?! English basically screwd with every single name they did Omegamon dirty
@dwainsimmons3447
@dwainsimmons3447 Год назад
Saban actual kept that
@aesuradracaheorte3585
@aesuradracaheorte3585 Год назад
speaking of that VS, for me it always depended if you were talking about the anime, or the games. the anime? digimon was my go to (i watched it as much as i could all the way through frontier) while pokemon was.... okay and then got too meh for me (stopped watching the show part way through johto, tho i continued to watch the movies up to jirachi wish maker). the games however? the opposite, i still play pokemon games and am looking forward to gen 9, but the digimon games? they had like, 1 good one that i played (and i played a few) and even a very *bad* one (looking at you, digimon world 4 for the ps2)
@oao7458
@oao7458 2 года назад
digimon is for teens and pokemon is for kids ... but kids with hairs on their bodies
@jorgeuribe1386
@jorgeuribe1386 2 года назад
Pokemon-Street Fighter Digimon-Mortal Kombat
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah 2 года назад
How so? Personally, given how SF and MK began I couldn't quite make a good comparison besides MK coming out after SF.
@JDReC100
@JDReC100 Год назад
@@RippahRooJizah thier talking about the general tone around when these creatures fight it seems pokemon fight to test each others strength/ or just to have some freindly sparring when digimon fight, its usually a brawl to maim or kill. more often than not, its a fight for your survival/life.
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah Год назад
@@JDReC100 I half get it, although it doesn't really make Digimon more like MK, I feel. You have digimon testing their strength and having friendly spars (and not so friendly spars) while you have Pokemon trying to maim or kill. Plus as a guy who actually is familiar with MK in general I might consider too much of what happens in MK to quite compare it to Digimon.
@MrZadenyuki
@MrZadenyuki 2 года назад
digimon mature with it's audience
@gentlemano6073
@gentlemano6073 Год назад
Lmao pokemon fans malding
@Zerato
@Zerato Год назад
Pretty much everything bad about Pokemon is because of Ash
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 Год назад
I think Ash is a great character. He isn't the problem. His writing for pretty much everything after Johto is.
@melissamurray8307
@melissamurray8307 3 месяца назад
@@TheAbsol7448Exactly. The fact that they refused to retire him is the problem.
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