In this episode of Madic Film Society we test and compare the X100V digital Pro Neg film simulation to its film counterpart Kodak Pro Image 100 Thank you & Please Subscribe
Great work. One thing to say is that If you've got the scanned images from a lab, then the colours and hues of that scans ARE edited by the lab although you did not make any tweaks on them. So, this is not really a fair comparison for the film shots. Film scans can turn out very differently depending on the scanning instrument, the settings of the instrument, and the personal preferences of the technician at the lab; the warm and yellowish tone in the scanned image may not truly represent the colour of the original negative as it could be an artefact of the scanning and editing setting. Thererfore, the true comparison can only be made if you scan the film yourself and don't make any further colour correction.
You're absolutely right on this point. I did speak with the lab scanners for this roll of film and asked them the make the scans as neutral as possible in the hopes of getting the closest representation of the film as possible. By the way i really appreciate your thoughts on this. Most people don't know how drastically different scans of film can be from lab to lab. Thanks a bunch.
Haha yup. That’s what found out. I decided to use Kodak Pro image 100 because when I was at the film shop talking to the team that is what they recommended for using as a comparison. Looking back it probably would have been better to use Fujifilm Superia or Pro400H if I could get my hands on 400H. My next comparison is going to be much better. Shooting the Provia simulation against… well fujifilm Provia 100.
It would be neat if you got another roll of this same film, then used these photos to adjust your X100v to look more like the film photos from this video (especially adjusting the white balance) and do another comparison.
Looking at my own files and scans, I think the ProNeg simulation is closest to Fuji 400H or Superia 200. It has the same cooler white balance as those two. I don't see any similarity at all to Pro Image 100 or any Kodak films because Kodak leans warm. Nonetheless, I really enjoyed this comparison! Cute Canon.
I completely agree. How I wish I had some Pro400H to shoot. It’s a shame it’s discontinued. And superia is one of my favorites of all time. Thanks for the comment happy you liked the video.
Seems like the film is daylight balanced shot on a cloudy day, so it’s going to skew color. This sort of thing would be corrected in print processing. The lens also had a strong vignette, which caused the greater contrast difference (and perhaps an overly relaxed tone curve for the digital emulation). Chance the lens also added some color.
This is a really well thought out idea. You’re probably right on all accounts. Thanks for the information that’s all super helpful. Seriously thanks a bunch I really appreciate it.
You say the film images are ‘unedited in post’ but this isn’t accurate; depending on which scanner, which software, and even who the editor/uploader is will make a difference to the look of a digital scan of a negative - therefore this is really a comparison of Pro Image 100 *as scanned by your lab and the Fuji simulation
You know I can't disagree with you. You're completely right, every lab is going to be a little different with their scanning process. I can say though that I work closely with the team at Essential Photo Supply and when we were developing these images we used the most neutral scanning we could in order to get them as close to "natural" as possible. And then of course i didn't do any color adjustments or manipulations in lightroom afterwards. By the way i really appreciate your thoughts on this. Most people don't know how drastically different scans of film can be from lab to lab.
@@kevikronicles I understand what you’re saying and what your intention is, but I just think it would have been essential to state that in the video as you may influence people to use or not use an emulation where they might get very different results. I work in a professional lab and we have a number of different scanning machines that will give pretty different results at their base ‘neutral’ settings….
Another point would be that a lot of vintage lenses give a colouration to the images that are different depending on your equipment. It’s one of the things that modern manufacturers (e.g. Sony) have worked so hard on with their new glass, is no colourcast compared to ‘real life’
And lastly, hopefully the wider public understand that over or under exposing your film (which it is very easy to do especially with analogue inbuilt light meters where there are dramatic differences in the scene) will also give colour casts to the image; there was definitely one image you showed above where you drew comparisons in colour between the film and digital where a simple lowering of exposure and/or white balance shift (which I know you deliberately weren’t doing) would have yielded much more similar results
Of all the many criminally underrated photography channels on RU-vid, this one is easily the most criminally underrated. I loved this comparison and would happily watch you do more of them. Keep up the great work!
I seriously can't tell you how much i appreciate this comment. People like you are the reason that i keep making these videos. So for real, thank you. Im currently working one a new comparison for Fujifilm Provia100 compared to the X100V's Provia simulation. Should have it finished in a week or so.
