THis is the only video that explains the Volume Calibration page. I've seen so many guides and videos and none of them properly explain this setting. I thought you didn't quite understand either, but you explained that it's to ensure your mic can get a good reading. Wow!
Hi Phil & Cam. Such a great video. There's the balance of asking the questions even if you know them, it makes the video much better to follow for simply anyone. Thanks.
Good tutorial. I recently went from a older Marantz 8802 to another brand that was equipped with Dirac. The set up was almost identical to this, except I had another option for a " Harman" curve built into my unit I am very sold on the fact that Dirac is better than Audyssey I use the wide seating position and I am getting better channel separation and better nuance of sound in that I hear tiny details that I did not hear before
Most people seem to agree that Dirac sounds a lot better than Audyssey --- I wouldn't be surprised if Denon cancels their partnership with Audyssey and uses Dirac as their default room correction for their consumer grade AVRs in the next few years
@@df5485 Yes, because yes, the Pioneer has full-band Dirac and the Denon, you have to purchase a license for it. Why? Because you can add the bass module to Dirac with DLBC with the Denon, the Pioneer you cannot. The Denon was individual crossover settings for each speaker group, all Pioneers have a master crossover that applies to all speakers.
So if I understood correctly, I can have one audyssey calibration on preset 1, and 3 Dirac calibrations with different levels, distances, curve eq, etc…, on preset 2? After selecting one of my Dirac filters can I go back to Speakers Manual Setup on the menu and adjusts the settings like leves and distances for each of my Dirac calibrations? I like the new function on the speaker menu that duplicate the LFE from the subwoofer and sent it to my front towers, can I set this manually to each of my 3 Dirac calibrations too?
Is the license transferrable? With Audyssey MultEQ-X, it is not. If I sell my Cinema 50, I want to be able to remove the license and transfer it to the new unit.
Multi EQ X lives with the unit for life. If you sell your AVR/AVP it is transferred to the new owner. I have recently sold my AVP and Audyssey organised the transfer of the license to the new owner once I contacted them to confirm I sold my unit . Ideally it would be nice if he license stayed with me.
Great video. I've found a bug with the MultEQ Editor app on my denon 3800h when using multiple subs. When using the OSD audysee setup through the receiver, Audysee correctly measures my subwoofer distances at 3 separate distances. However, when using the MultEQ Editor app, audysee measures the response of all 3 subs, but instead set the subwoofer distance of all three subs at the same distance as my sub that's located the farthest away. For example, directly through the receiver, sub 1 is 15.6 ft, sub 2 is 15.9 ft, and sub 3 is 23.8 ft. Through the Editor app, all subs are set to 23.8 ft which skews the subwoofer response prior to EQ being applied. The only way to change the distances to the correct distance is AFTER EQ has been applied, which is not ideal as the frequency response is drastically changed by setting the distance of subs to their correct delays. Hopefully this issue can be corrected, as the benefits of using the Editor app for the rest of the speakers made a huge difference! Live the sound, but I know my sub eq is "off" after changing the distances post EQ being applied. Thanks again for the great video.
This is Excellent, superb. It is the best description I’ve seen about setting up Dirac. I have the Monolith htp1 with 3 subs and it recently lost use of 2 subs after the latest firmware update,though the subs are working. I believe that I can confidently do the setup based on your description. My head will not be above the back of my chair. Will the microphone pick up my back speakers(2)and the sub behind me correctly? Thanks.You are Great.
I guess the obvious question is --- does Dirac sound better on a Denon X3800H, Pioneer LX-505, or Onkyo RZ50? All these AVR's are priced roughly about the same.
Amazing vid! Thank you for those very clear explanations about Dirac. I have a question. What about the distances? Do we have to measure them manually before beginning with the calibration or does Dirac self measure the distances? If we have to take the measurements manually first, how can we take into acount the delay caused by the DSP of many subwoofers? Thank you.
You don't have to measure any distances with Dirac calibration --- the only thing that is important is to make sure all speakers are properly wired (polarity) and in correct positions (ie, front speakers are not wired up as rear surrounds, etc)
Question about the Dirac license, I currently have a Marantz Cinema 40, but may return it for the Marantz AV10. If I purchase a license for the Cinema 40 and exchange for the AV10, will the license swap over?
Why three slots and not 8 or 16? I had a salesman almost bragging it had three slots. The HTP-1 has 5. It seems like for the cost of a $5 thumb drive you could give the users enough storage space to do as many as they want.
Hello everyone, I recently purchased a Dirac Live license for the AVR DENON 3800h but I didn't see any advantage in having paid $350, so I would like to know if Direct will provide refunds? I really appreciate for your help, have great day 😄
I cannot adjust the Master Volume via Dirac Live (Denon X3800H). I dont know why. And I can also play just one Front Speaker, if i select at first the right speaker, i can only play the test tone from right speaker and other way round. I use 5.1 Bi Amp, i did every setup... I just use the normal 5.1 Setup. Switching to 7.1 and other stuff didnt help. What should i do? How to configure the windows 11 right for dirac?
Silly question, do you recommend performing the Audyssey setup prior to DIRAC? Confused about sequence. Or does it matter and can I go directly to DIRAC out of the box...sorry
Thanks for the comprehensive walkthrough, very interesting stuff :-) I have the Audyssey MultiqX for my Marantz 8805. While the interfaces differ, it looks as if the 2 programs are doing the excact same thing. So how are they different? I was under the impression that Dirac was better than Audyssey. Judging from this presentation they appear to be very identical
The main difference is that Dirac adjust the phase and Audessy does not. I have tested both on my Denon AVR 4800, and because the Dirac can adjust the phase, I get almost perfect integration between my two subs and my main speakers. With Audessy , the two subs and the main speakers, cancel each other out at certain frequencies, causing a major decrease in overall bass. Yes, I can adjust the phase on my subs, but this applies to all frequencies the sub plays, so while I can get decent integration at some frequencies, I am not getting good integration at all frequencies. With Dirac, the overall sound of my bass is now way better and my sub amps are putting out way less power as the speakers are properly in phase and not fighting one another. That being said, very frustrating that Dirac does not have any type of loudness compensation or night mode like Audessy.
@@bobbyDig Have You compared Dirac to the Audyssey MulteQ-X or just the in-amp Audyssey? The 200 dollar Audyssey app has far more options than the preinstalled version.
@@WillyLax24 You shouldn´t let your main speakers and subs overlap. The mains should be cut off at 80hz and the subs handle all of the bass. Being set up that way, the main speakers wont be fighting the subs.
I would leave the level set by Dirac. However, it is based on personal taste. if you desire more bass, you can increase the output in several ways. #1 Using the knob on the back of the sub. #2 increase sub-level via the AVRs option menu, #3 Build a target curve with the bass elevated.
That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much. Just like in the classroom 👍🏻 The first calibration worked perfectly. Great sound. But I can't find any answers to one question. I also have 2 speakers on my Denon for stereo (music) only. Layout: 7.1 channel + front B. These are connected to the Height 2. But the speakers are not taken into account by Dirac. What can I do to calibrate these speakers as well?
What exactly does the middle signify and what its importance? I tried using a level audio meter as you would normally for volume levels per speaker but not sure wth I'm looking for on or targeting on the volume section in dirac
@@UnitedRedDevil13 I really can't remember exactly. A new firmware came out and I did new calibratiion at it solved the problem. Make sure your sub is on all the time, not auto.
Dirac does not offer a feature similar to Dynamic Volume. We suggest doing an Audyssey Cal with Dynamic Volume engaged and saving it under Speaker Preset #1. Then you can quickly switch between Preset #1 (Audyssey) and Preset #2 (Dirac)
@@SoundUnitedTraining of corse I meant dynamic EQ. That is too Bad. Without something similar to dynamic EQ this makes Dirac basically unusable for many people.
@@michaelmock4894 some people use a night and day setting on Dirac. 1 with their preferred settings for regular views/listening and 1 for quiet listening at night. not ideal but for me it will be enough. I never use the Dynamic volume/EQ from Audyssey so I don't loose anything.
@@SoundUnitedTrainingso we don’t have to manually enter distances or level match all speakers before running Dirac? I ran for the first time today and i got red exclamation points on quite a few speaker measures. Distances & levels all read 0 after importing to Denon. Thanks in advance.
When is an update available for the found issues in last update with Dirac Live ?? Like the 20ms maximum delay which is unusable for a lot of people with (multiple) subs around the room.
think that problem is only when ppl are using wireless adapter for one sub.. had the same problem.. ran RCA for my rear sub.. an the 20ms delay problem gone
@@StealthBlazer true. had that also and solved it in the same way. but the 20ms delta means no sub/speaker can be further away then 6 meters. there are people I know who have bigger distances or don't want to use cables. both situations need more then 20ms. so it's a serious issue as that means Dirac is not usable 😮
any tip on getting the enough and tight bass from my svs sb3000 pro. I have marantz cinema 50 with Focal 900 series 5.1 and SVS sb 3000 pro but not getting enough bass even after following all the steps mentioned by you. Thanks
So... i was ready to buy, but... my computer is in the otherroom, and the cable of the mic is only 6 foot so it wont reach from the avr to the main seating position . So I'm stuck with audyssey...
Hello sirs have you any idea where i can get my marantz sr 7013 repaired I live in Ireland and my Dina say is there no one left in sound United either support or repairs so can you help or anyone that is looking Would anyone have an idea where I can get my repairs done there is no support from sound United and I'm sure the repairs for Europe are gone as well anyone that can help
As much as i love all of this, i think its too much for the same, and knowing a bit too much of this, and the calibrated methods used in the mics, i have to say that IF you hear differences between them, you will be hearing this differences between the Calibrated Mic and the other Mic.. The logic behind all of this, is to sound same at exact same Place, so how would one sound different than the other? Im sorry for the ones who buy this only for the sound, Me i buy them , because i LOVE seeing Sweeps draw in my pc :)
Onkyo have Dirac live built in licence included in price! Did you have idea how many people would take Onkyo or Pionir and not Marantz/Denon only because of Dirac? Its only yours money hunger!
I agree that Onkyo not charging for a Dirac license is nice, but I think market competition is good --- for example, many consumers want more than three Dirac filter slots in their AVR, so now Denon, Onkyo, and Pioneer can all compete with each other to expand the slot count
Audyssey fits the needs of most of our customers looking for a simple setup solution. Adding both licenses would have increased the price for everyone., but we wanted to give users the option to choose Dirac.
@@SoundUnitedTraining I know, I just thought it was a bad analogy 😉 I just received my X3800H today 😁 great machine! Even without Dirac, just would have liked to know that the Audyssey app was paid as well, but I don't think I'm missing out on much
@@SoundUnitedTraining One mayor annoyance; controlling the volume with the remote is either too slow when you go step by step, or waaay too fast when you hold the volume up/down button, volume down would be fine too have go fast, but volume up should never go that fast!!! My cat could literally walk on the remote and blow my eardrums if I don't put the remote away safely and I'm not near the receiver (and yes it'll overpower my speakers and might damage them, I can easily hear them clipping at high volumes even with the volume limiter, and I'd not say they're bad speakers (Teufel ultima 40 5.1)
D&M needs the through the extra mic in the box for good measure, after spending over £1k on the AVR and then have to shell out £300 for Dirac and an other £100 for a mic. If Pioneer/Onkyo, Arcam can do it you can too....stop being cheap gits.
@@boterhammetpindakaashagelslag you're damn right I am a cheap git, bang for buck I say. The Onkyo RZ50 is cheaper, sounds better, have Dirac in the box and a mic. If you want to spend more money and get now't for it, you go on brother. again, this is why D&M makes cheap shite and changes so much, cause you lot let them get away with it. My money is better in my pocket fella.
