DiRT Rally 2.0 vs Richard Burns Rally 

Without any doubt.

Unfortunately?

​@@paracetamol9312 the game is amazing but the fact no other company managed to make a decent rally game closer to it or even beat it for almost 2 decades is the unfortunate part.

​@@paracetamol9312definitely unfortunate. As good as rbr is, there are major downsides as well. Lets say user interface and graphics for example. Would be awesome to have moddable rally game with rbr physicks but with modern graphic motor.

I wonder if I am the only one who play DR2.0 just to enjoy running on stage. I have played the carrer maybe 2 hours…

Carrer in Dirt Rally? Oh really?

@@MrCharlou92 I only play the daily, weekly and monthly online challenges. No redo's, just balancing risk and reward to get the best times possible without wrecking your car and getting massive penalties. Just a lot of fun seeing how you compare to others.

For Dirt Rally 2.0 I'd say it just depends on how you setup the assists Full Assists = Arcade Mid-set assists = Simcade No Assists = Simulation I set all my assists to 3 and it pretty much plays like the OG WRC games developed by Evolution Studios

​@@P_D-px6ivehhh, it's a simcade at it's best

Well said!

@@imagineracer LOl both beautiful exept the driving model of Dirt.Fake,tasteless,boring, driving model.Especially in try wth vr is more ridiculus.

Nothing compares))) OMG how lousy physics in RBR. Driving physics in RBR is complete nonsense. Fans of this game, have you lost your mind? Cars slip excessively on any surface. Try driving a real car, it's nothing like it. RBR looks ugly, it's old, the menu is hideous. Yikes.

@@tonypapado have u ever tried to stop the car sideways on loose gravel from 150+km/h? Before simracing i was doing local rally events. Rbr was only game that let me feel the way as being in a real car

DR2 too easy? DR2 is way harder than rbr imo, especially RWD, ESPECIALLY MR/RR

@@semiijs If you want a real experience, then get in a real car. I tried this game and my disappointment knows no bounds.

@@tonypapado done it. As i said i drove irl before tried simracing. Unfortunate irl is too damn expensive these days, thats why switched to sim

Is this on gamepad? I find the controls on WRC Generations unbearable on a full simrig sadly. And sadly it doesn't look like they'll fix it anymore But you're right, it's certainly a cool niche title - much like the Loeb Rally one

@@kontoname I'm using a Logitech 920, it took some tweaking to get FFB good but it's mostly the different handling that made the game weird at first. You really need to keep the right foot down to get traction and control, coasting often means sliding out, but the right amount of wheel spin (using left foot braking while staying on the gas) can really claw the car through the stage. It's so much more satisfying than the coasting cornering in Code master games.

The Sweden and Croatia stages in WRCG are my favourite locations in any rally game.

​@@handuke have you tried playing WRCG with Riky_Sim's physics mod?

@@thehwguy4293 no, but I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip!

I'm interested in getting a gaming pc for rbr and beam ng. Can you have online races and challenges with friends on beam ng? Or is it a single player game?

​@@andyb311 Sorry man I have no idea, I would probably ask on BeamNG forums (RBR will practically run on anything)...but beamNG is very high demand, it merely runs 'okay' on my PC ... t I kinda want to upgrade my VidCard for this and iRacing but probly not till I get some cash saved.....

​@@andyb311 its single player only for now, buut there is a mod for it

This comment is the truth. I started with DR and the WRC games, then got into RBR and now I can't go back. RBR isn't for everybody and it's usually not a starting point for people getting into rally games, but it's there for those that want the most realistic rally game available.

You're probably right, I'm focusing too much on how things look. Well, when I buy a DD steering wheel, such comparisons will acquire an additional dimension. I sincerely hope RBR is as good with steering wheel as people say it is.

Tbf, good sound design and graphics that don't look like they're from a PS2 game are just as important in creating a good and immersive driving experience.

The sense of speed in RBR is absolute crazy. I test now with Meta Quest 3 and is MIND BLOWING. You get feel all the physics(NGP 7), how the car is working to road, the FMOD sound is crazy, you hear the engine like the real car from real samples, this is a Huge sound step to the RBR. After i try Dirt 1-2 in vr and is absolute GARBAGE. Yes ok nice graphics and sound, but the driving model is absolute NOTHING and BORING... If you want a driving pleasure experience, only RBR can give you that feeling PERIOD.

Yep, variety of stages is an important aspect. New stages from Codemasters would significantly improve this situation.

In my opinion, no other option compares to the view from the cockpit in RBR. The gameplay from the cockpit view in this game is incomparable. A sense of the dimensions of the car, a view of the road, etc. If only the sound here would be Codemasters level... but many cars have quite decent sound. This is more of a nitpick than an aspect that has a significant impact.

Agree, i have a virtual 5.1 headset and use spatial sound/Windows sonic for headphones, the sound in DR2.0 is fantastic for immersion. ​@@imagineracer

@@imagineracer I agree 10000% !!!The sense of speed in RBR is absolute crazy.I test now with Meta Quest 3 and is MIND BLOW.You get feel all the psyshics(NGP 7),how the car is working to road, the FMOD sound is crazy,you hear the engine like the real car from real samples,this is a Huge sound step to the RBR. After i try Dirt 1-2 in vr and is absolute GARBAGE.Yes ok nice graphics and sound,but the driving model is absolute NOTHING and BORING... If you want a driving pleasure experince only RBR can give you that feeling PERIOD.

Yep, stages and the physics make this game amazing! After I assemble my first cockpit, I will definitely get a VR.

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!

It's 100% myth

Speak for yourself, I find it just as immersive if not more

When I have some time I'll finish the wheels and add a link to the description.

@@imagineracer Thank you

1. I don't consider this game an arcade game. 2. There is not a single game that can be qualified as a real simulator. People with real racing experience talk about this. And this applies not only to rallying. It's the same in circuit racing. 3. The physics of the cars in RBR feels more realistic, yes. But if you really want you can also call RBR an arcade as well. I use controller and enjoy the process. The line between an arcade, simcade and a simulator game is in the realm of your own feelings. There is no measurement system in which such concepts can be objectively classified.

​@@imagineracerIn Dirts you steer with rear wheels... RBR literally simulates what is going inside real car...

@@Hulek69 what the fuck do you mean by in dirt you steer with your rear wheels? or are you just making a stupidly over exagherated point about DR2 not being as realistic as RBR?

Thanks!

82 for RBR and 92 points for DR2.0

@@imagineracer Yes, 82/92, sorry and thanks.

It sounds like you're comparing these games to women. Well, the best woman is the one who makes you happy. Returning to the games, I will say that you, like many others, evaluate RBR from the point of view of physics realism. Well, no one argues here, RBR feels more realistic. But it's still a game. And there cannot be complete realism while sitting in front of a monitor screen. There are different rules of the game here and you strive to achieve success in accordance with these rules of the game.

@@imagineracer - no, you got it wrong, I've compered it to an opinion of an expert vs. of someone, who just looks handsome. For example, you need to fix your roof and two contractors arrive. Dirt Rally 2.0 is an attractive well-dressed person, who speaks well, but knows very little about the subject, will employ low-paid workers from 3rd world countries to actually do the job and that will cost you more and the quality will not be adequate. RBR, on the other hand, is an experienced roofer, who arrived in his working gear and an old van, who is man of few words, will tell you his honest opinion and will work on your roof along with his crew himself. But he will do the job properly and honestly. And regarding to realism, sure, RBR is not 100% accurate, but it was intended to do that and is developed to this day by the community, comparing to real cars via telemetry, etc. Dirt 2.0 simply can't do that. Its purpose is to sell more copies by giving emotion of success, not realism as lots of people don't have talent to drive on competitive level, so they'll hate rally sims. Also, generally people don't like sims, because they're too hard and rallying is more niche sport than circuit racing, where there are plenty of great products (then again - not Gran Turismo or Forza, they're also dirt rallies 2.0 in their own worlds). That's why we needed a man like late Richard Burns to get involved to create an investment that will never pays off. Nowadays I doubt many developers want to get involved since all of the ones, who created RBR, went bankrupt. The new proper sim has to get a big investment from either another rally superstar, FIA, teams (they have their own sims btw) or expand an existing platform like iRacing rallycross mode or, I dare to say - Beam NG. Sadly, none of the first options are likely to happen and the only hope is that Beam NG continues to develop towards realism (they're doing great, btw) and it being an open source game, the developers will then take on to create special stages like they do in RBR plugins. All we need is separate physics engine, the graphics can be updated any time and such sim can outlive even the RBR.

I got your point. But don’t you think that you get a little carried away when you write "(Codemasters) will employ low-paid workers from 3rd world countries to actually do the job and that will cost you more and the quality will not be adequate"? I see that this game was made by professionals and people passionate about their work. Yes, Dirt Rally 2.0 is more commercially attractive and the physics in it are less realistic, but this doesn't make it some kind of ridiculous fake, poorly made by third world workers. I've been playing RBR for several months now and making videos about it, but I still don't understand why fans of this game are so aggressive towards other games and anyone who talks about any shortcomings in this game. In every video I say thanks to the modders and admire their work. I dream of making my own stage of good quality. And I envy people who have already developed these skills. Can you explain to me the psychology of RBR fans? This game already has legendary status and many fans. By making videos about this game I draw even more attention (even if it's just a little) to this game, why do I still feel like an enemy of the state in this territory?

Oh, the RBR fanboys never disappoint. Your arguments boil down to gatekeeping by using extremely stupid and over the top analogies or convenient double standards like: "RBR has bad graphics and audio (which are a core part of immersion) but the devs made it like this so it's actually completely fine."

Dirt Rally 2.0 is a big hit with a huge fan base. But you're right, Dirt Rally has much more of a reputation for trying to be a rally simulator.

@@imagineracer I agree with you, as for DR, it seems to me that this is RBR 2)))), this is purely my subjective opinion

RBR is an abandonware now and you can legally play it for free. Full legit

it’s abandonware so it is completely legal to download for free

I will definitely test this game soon. As I understand it, there is no rally in this game? But you can add rally car and stage mods, right?

If the wheel itself is the problem, temporarily set the degrees of rotation of the wheel very low (like 180 degrees) in Ghub, bind the steering, then return the rotation to the value you normally use. Make sure to do the controls binding in the main menu, not when paused on stage, otherwise it will not save them.

Skill issue

Who said that? At least I don't think so. Here is my video where I compare these games - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--t9aIybWJIc.html

Imo yes it's better but I won't play it ever again because of what EA did to Linux users

Why be rude? There's a cultural comparison here. Give arguments to support your opinion, it will be much more useful.

@@thebeatbud Of course IS A JOKE. Dirt is good for kids to play with gamepads.

Its good for both not everyone is straight up hardcore for RBR ​@@lambrosh4072

As far as I can tell, you only see. Try playing this game, man... before you throw words around. And you won't get anything back. Why did you even watch this video in first place? Sit and play one game all your life.

Imma guess you play on controller. Never tried VR?

@@quistador7 With a wheel. Without VR.

You can setting the angle since it has the plugin. Double click your mouse

How funny you guys are. If my opinion doesn't coincide with yours I had to delete this video... Your opinion doesn't coincide with mine, so delete your account from RU-vid mate, is not good.

Have you tried the view from the cockpit in RBR? If you played with a chase camera, then such a reaction is possible, I won’t argue. But if you played with a camera from the cockpit and you rate the car physics as 1-2 out of 10... then I have no more words. For anyone who has a similar reaction after their first experience in RBR, I have one piece of advice: choose a cockpit view and give this game a chance. At least a couple of hours. And choose a good quality stage, for example one of these: - Woliborz-Jodlownik (8,2km Tarmac) - SS Berica (14,8km Gravel) - Vargassence (14,9km Snow) - Ui. Rajdova (1,6 Tarmac) - Stryckovy-Zadni Porici (6,9km Tarmac) - Rosciszow-Walim (8,5km Tarmac) - Huppyjulma Gravel (6,2km Gravel) - Huppyjulma Tarmac (6,2km Tarmac) - Hassi (7,8km Gravel) - Elmenteita (3,6km Gravel)

@@imagineracer I already gave this game a chance. Sorry man, I just don't understand why you all turn a blind eye to how ugly and old this game is. And the physics in this game are not worth ignoring all the other squalor. I'd rather pay money than play this game for free. By comparing this game to Dirt Rally 2.0 you are doing this old crap a big favor. RBR doesn't deserve that kind of attention. EA Sports sucks too compared to DR 2.0. I have spoken.

>The sounds in the game make me sick So you found a vanilla version somewhere and thought this was the thing everyone is playing 20 years later. Poor lad will never experience Subaru FMOD engine sounds.

​@@TheIRAmikethis

Skill issue on installing i guess

no, using RBR RSF...