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Disaster on the Vistula | Alternate Soviet victory at Warsaw 1920 

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Now it is 100 years since the Wonder at Vistula.
But what if it was a disaster?
There has been a lot of speculations of what could have had happen if the Bolsheviks won the battle of Warsaw. Some say that the Bolsheviks could have had conquer all of Europe, some even the whole World.
But I decided to make a "pseudo-realistic" video that will show the wars in a map format.
Realisticly, the war would have become a trench one, and the Bolshevik forces wouldn't have had the possibility to invade all of Europe.
The Rhine river would have had protect Western Europe.
Russia was already ruined by a bloody World War and a Civil War, and the Euro-Bolshevik war would have not escalated for too long. The war will turn into a Cold one, as the geopolitical situation is very similar to the one after WW2.
Instead of a open war, the war will continue in economical sabotage and helping of resistance movements.
The video represents "ALTERNATIVE" history, which means it is history in an different timeline, or universe. Different from our reality

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@josephmaher4276
@josephmaher4276 4 года назад
Not gonna lie, the music made this scenario quite unnerving, seeing the Soviets just blitz across Europe like that was insane.
@tern7913
@tern7913 4 года назад
What the music is?
@sylvali1046
@sylvali1046 4 года назад
@@tern7913 Тачанка (Tachanka)
@FranciTheGamer
@FranciTheGamer 3 года назад
Remember that Spartacist Germany had millions of men and tons of resources ready to be mobilized.
@nizam5568
@nizam5568 4 года назад
An interesting side effect would be that ww1 would probably be seen as lasting from 1914-1921 instead
@pcgaming7680
@pcgaming7680 3 года назад
this scenario happened during the interwar period
@simpolomeo
@simpolomeo Год назад
I see it like that even in our timeline :P
@boozashakes4254
@boozashakes4254 Год назад
It would be seen as from 1945-1948 in our own timeline were the soviets established satellite states
@nazalostizsrbije
@nazalostizsrbije Месяц назад
​@@pcgaming7680 our concept of interwar would be diffirent
@deadchannel1880
@deadchannel1880 4 года назад
Entente: survive and win ww1 Comintern:Ima about to end their whole career
@jurygalati5732
@jurygalati5732 3 года назад
I'd like to say that the Soviets may probably have done to Italy the same thing they did with Germany, because after WW1 Italy's conditions were those of a defeated country rather than a victorious one. In Italy there was a period called "Red Two Years" right when you put the bolshevik border on the italo-austrian frontier. They surely would have help the italian socialists to overthrow the government and establish a people's republic. I personally read of italian soldiers by the time saying things like "we should do like in Russia, the revolution, and kill the king"
@brooklybeli6970
@brooklybeli6970 3 года назад
I'm Albanian and my great-great-grandfather fought against the Italians in the Vlora War of 1920. Italy lost that war in OTL so I do not know how they would win here unless there was a massive build up. The Italians losing made the soldiers more communist which helped the Bienno Rosso. Something like that would probably happen even if the Bolsheviks won at Warsaw
@Mr_Fancy_Hatt
@Mr_Fancy_Hatt 10 месяцев назад
This was always an interesting idea to me, seeing you portray it in this way along with this banger tune was masterful, excellent work.
@swift1014
@swift1014 4 года назад
When Lenin activates his Stands ability
@chsgrate5362
@chsgrate5362 4 года назад
@Samuel Neal many things made him die. Most of all being an assasination attemp which ultimately failed but did a fatal blow to Lenin's Health. Plus he had sypchilisis.
@ellamaybalatan-sarmiento3203
@ellamaybalatan-sarmiento3203 3 года назад
@@chsgrate5362 umm should i whoosh this person or ignore this person because i dunno if he got the jokeor not
@chsgrate5362
@chsgrate5362 3 года назад
@@ellamaybalatan-sarmiento3203 ?
@eduardmemester2706
@eduardmemester2706 2 года назад
I wanted to see Italy too Bolscevik, between 1919 and 1920 there was in Italy "Biennio rosso", a period in which workers occupied factories and the Socialist Party was almost to win the elections
@spartathemapper
@spartathemapper 2 года назад
Craxi era nero
@BartlomiejDmowski
@BartlomiejDmowski Год назад
And that's what made Mussolini win
@dr_Matt-nc3ne
@dr_Matt-nc3ne 4 года назад
I dig the new Globe Map and the Pop-Up Events in the Bottom Left. Great work
@arsha1434
@arsha1434 4 года назад
Some criticisim, the text for events felt too large compared to the factions text. Other than that, a good Entente bruh moment.
@manifest5768
@manifest5768 4 года назад
Agreed, it's slightly obnoxious at times.
@manifest5768
@manifest5768 4 года назад
While this unrealistic, it's still very much a joy to watch and theorize about via the WTF CD standard. Great video, keep it up!
@Nekroleinchen
@Nekroleinchen 3 года назад
@Baniškian Cartography there is no way the russians could have just rolled into germany at that time.
@commandercody6937
@commandercody6937 3 года назад
@@Nekroleinchen It didn't inherently have to be the Soviets invading, it could have been a soviet-backed coup in Germany that tbh would likely start a civil war considering not much of germany (13%) actually supported the ideology. That being said, it would still be possible as a result of the coup.
@flame9826
@flame9826 11 месяцев назад
​@@commandercody6937keep in mind that the Weimar Republic was a rump state. It couldn't resist an invasion and mutinies would be strong
@Light-dg4jw
@Light-dg4jw 4 года назад
yay another fresh video!
@BalkanBallMapping69
@BalkanBallMapping69 4 года назад
Finally i have been waiting for a long time for this video!
@williandarosa5485
@williandarosa5485 4 года назад
I made 2 timelines for a soviet victory scenario: FIRST SCENARIO: STALEMATE 1 - russia waits until october or november to invade germany, in order to better their supply lines and redeploy troops. Homever this gives germany the time to send some troops to the border cause they are scared of communism after the german revolution 2 - yet, they are not enough to stop the massive soviet attack with at least 500 thousand troops, the main soviet attack is in a direct line to Berlin, which will likely fall in some weeks. Also for prussia. 3 - despite the fall of Berlin germany doesn´t surrender, dozens of thousands of war veterans and citizens mobilize to fight the communist invasion, and with support of the allies they fight and slow a bit the soviets near the borders of our timeline´s east germany 4 - Nobody expects germany to survive. france, expecting a communist germany to ignore the treaty of verssalhes, intervenes together with the allies to make peace, which is made in the sprin of that year 5 - If that doesn´t happen. Then after some months of fighting in a stalemate, both sides come to a peace agreement, borders are similar to OTM east germany 6 - the soviet invasion, combined with humilhation of the great war, economic chaos, and after that a 1922 allied occupation of the ruhr brings the nazis to power in 1922/1923, what will happen after? l don´t know *SECOND SCENARIO: SOVIET VICTORY* 1 - the only thing that changes here is that the allied support and german army aren´t enough to stop the soviets and the intervention don´t stop the soviets or never happens, and germany will fall in the summer or by the winter of 1921. 2 - the anti-communists might run to the rhineland, where they will be protected by the allied occupation, lf this happens, the rhineland will become a independent nation. Austria and czechoslovakia might become communists in the 20´s 3 - With the revolution spreading to europe, socialism in one country basically never exist. And USSR and germany will send a lot of support to republican spain, lf that is significant enough, italy might leave the conflict by 1941 - 42 due to the costs or something, which will cause the nationalists to lose the war. 4 - the soviets will supply the japanese in order to weaken the americans in the pacific war, this together with the fact that the manhatan project won´t happen will cause the war to extent to 1947 or even cause the invasion to fail. 5 - To 1945 the soviets will be ready for war, and they might try to invade eurasia, and will conquer turkey, the balkans, most of china, scandinavia, korea and iran. And l don´t know how long the war will last, maybe 1 or 3 years. 6 - In the cold war the soviets will have a stronger economy and leadership, possibily with more competent leaders that will reform the nation and save it. But lf that doesn´t happen, then germany will invade the now non-communist countries, and march to moscow to take down gorbrachev, so USSR might survive. And the cold war continues to this day.
@comissar8953
@comissar8953 4 года назад
Have some criticisms but overall cool scenarios
@gulbogiii
@gulbogiii 4 года назад
Idk about the nazis thingy, Hitler was too much of a beta male until the late 20's when he began involving in politics, also he liked being in the army so it's likely for him to die during the bolshevik invasion
@williandarosa5485
@williandarosa5485 4 года назад
@@gulbogiii not really sure, hitler rose quickly to the top in his party since 1919. And in 1920 the germans worker´s party was renamed into nazi party by hitkler himself. I´m not sure lf he would want to leave the party after everything to fight in the war.
@northernitalianmapper6327
@northernitalianmapper6327 4 года назад
Great video! Are you gonna make a series out of this? I hope so!
@徐翊桓
@徐翊桓 2 года назад
我非常希望能够做成系列
@korkorkorkorkor
@korkorkorkorkor 4 года назад
the music just feels like im having a spasm
@uspeschnyichelovek4809
@uspeschnyichelovek4809 4 года назад
When German victory in Weltreich WWII?
@nOtstrO
@nOtstrO 4 года назад
Never, Foxy is a communist
@slimeguy3437
@slimeguy3437 4 года назад
There is a fan made video (I think) and a ton of maps (also made by fans)
@Airborne675
@Airborne675 4 года назад
@@nOtstrO No! He is Socalist
@nOtstrO
@nOtstrO 4 года назад
@@Airborne675 almost same thing
@comissar8953
@comissar8953 4 года назад
@@Airborne675 communism is the end goal , socialism is the means
@ronanmahaffey2996
@ronanmahaffey2996 4 года назад
Love to see a sequel
@samtorian8753
@samtorian8753 4 года назад
As a Pole, I am glad that the Soviets never won on Warsaw. And about realistic scenario, if Bolsheviks REALLY conquered Poland, I personally think that the Revolution in Germany end as failure (suppressed by the Freikorps and reorganized with the consent of the Entente German army). This would also have led to a faster arrival to power of ultra-nationalistic forces in Germany, like DNVP or NSDAP... Poland would also become a new SRR, because 1920's Polish communist movement don't want Polish independence and probably Bolsheviks also. Great movie as always!
@ivanthegreat2.070
@ivanthegreat2.070 4 года назад
Which wing takes over the DNVP? The fascist wing or monarchist wing?
@olegsavinkov7950
@olegsavinkov7950 4 года назад
And now lets figure out details,I am myself a communist and Ukrainian and I dont want to bring this dialogue to mutual threats and pointless insults,however 1-Whites De-facto did the same with Bolshevik movement,however,it failed to contain it in all forms,I dont think that KDP(Considering that this is an alternate history,the KDP could have more power) seeing the victories of Red Army would simply sit and wait. 2-Felix Dzherzhinskij,the Head of PolRevCom(Polish Revolutionary Committee) as well as many of its members wanted the Poland to be independent from Russia,as separate SSR,the info that they "Wanted to be the part of USSR" is mostly connected to the fact that they received 2 million rubles from Moscow.(which was mostly targeted for rebuilding). 3-I dont think that with the famine,unemployment and other things could play nice for ultranationalists forces,or,at least it wouldnt give them any advancements in propaganda over the communist party. And considering USSR now has a direct border with the country they have a large friendly party. 4-Alright,lets take the consideration possible war with the Freikorps.But on the other side,the Bolsheviks defeated the Tsarist Generals,the Interventionists,and Poles,besides,with the KPD aiding from behind,I dont think the Freikorps will hold out everywhere and for a long time. Entente had its own problems,like the Soldiers mutinies and none of them,in fact saw the Soviets as a some mythical threat,like they did closer to 30s.
@samtorian8753
@samtorian8753 4 года назад
​@@ivanthegreat2.070 I think that DNVP will be dominated by fascists, with monarchist sympathies (because ideology of fascism was based on the threat of Bolshevism). And as the Bolsheviks entered these lands and occupied Poland, so more and more will begin to believe that Germany can only be saved by a strong leader.
@ivanthegreat2.070
@ivanthegreat2.070 4 года назад
@@samtorian8753 Big sad.
@samtorian8753
@samtorian8753 4 года назад
​@@olegsavinkov7950​ 1-Okay, but the KPD itself would not have in a society that was humiliated by defeat (the authorities claimed almost until the end of the war that Germany was close to victory and that it was only a matter of time. This was the main reason why many of them endured burdens such as rationing of goods). Despite the defeat of the war and the revolutions, many did not support communism, and the failed revolution in Bavaria even led to a new rise in conservatism and nationalism among the Germans of the time.(KPD never had the greatest support in the country, the Zentrum and SPD enjoyed more support, and already then some people believed stab-in-the-back myth). 2-Dzierzyński/Dzherzhinskij also was in KPRP (and the members of the KPRP mainly were members of Polrewkom), which came from the former SDKPIL. KPP and many of its members believed that idea of Polish suverenity is harmful to world revolution, since creation of this party and they supported the annexation of these territories by the USSR. Also, they don't recognize Polish western and eastern borders. So, they do not wanted Polish independence because of internationalism, and it's not connected to 2 million rubles. ,,The KPP was guided by Marxist ideology under a strictly orthodox interpretation. It opposed the establishment of a politically independent Poland. Its activists functioned as party members and government officials in Soviet Russia. The KPP was against land reform (distribution of property to landless peasants). It aimed to organize the working class and to unify the trade union movement. It adhered to policies established by the Comintern in Moscow." 3-NSDAP won parlamentary elections in 1932, because of unemployment and Great Depression, maybe famine. Many Germans voted, because Hitler promised to solve these problems by drastic measures. 4-I was just describing what in my opinion would happen in the first years of 20s. Maybe the Soviets would conquer the Germany after some time, I don't know that. But Soviets couldn't win in Germany in 1920 , because of Red Army's supply problems and ruinous Civil War.
@Scenariania
@Scenariania 4 года назад
Also Foxy, this is totally unrelated to the video but why does China own Mongolia and Tuva? Shouldn't they have been separated in 1912?
@stoopkiiid
@stoopkiiid 4 года назад
And i find you again. Guten tag mein fruend, we already know what our conversation is going to be.
@Scenariania
@Scenariania 4 года назад
@@stoopkiiid guten tag and how do you do
@darthplagueis3488
@darthplagueis3488 3 месяца назад
I imagine this was the scenario Lenin had in mind, but it never came to fruition.
@alexanderdemoniac8107
@alexanderdemoniac8107 4 года назад
Ah, another great video about the revolution being the victors.
@Scenariania
@Scenariania 4 года назад
Yes and another great video of seeing the world being plagued by this ideology.
@9_9876
@9_9876 4 года назад
@@Scenariania exactly
@Scenariania
@Scenariania 4 года назад
@@9_9876 so happy it failed bro. I have been waiting for the Chinese collapse but that won't happen soon.
@9_9876
@9_9876 4 года назад
@@Scenariania one day it will. By the way idk if i asked you before but where are you from?
@Scenariania
@Scenariania 4 года назад
@@9_9876 Czechia, an immigrant from it.
@dr_Matt-nc3ne
@dr_Matt-nc3ne 4 года назад
This is kinda scary ngl. As an American its hard to imagine a completely Red World. Great Video nonetheless!
@blagoevski336
@blagoevski336 4 года назад
Unless it's Titoism
@LeCommieBoi
@LeCommieBoi Год назад
Based
@ceother1024
@ceother1024 3 года назад
Music?
@jamiemcintosh3030
@jamiemcintosh3030 11 месяцев назад
In this Timeline, the Thirty-One Years' War may be shorter and the Second Time of Troubles may be shorter too.
@tatarkhan33
@tatarkhan33 3 года назад
What is the song?
@shadowstorm4722
@shadowstorm4722 3 года назад
Tachanka
@rim6695
@rim6695 4 года назад
I have a few ideas for more alt history scenarios my first idea is an alternate history of Norway or one of the Scandinavian countries (perhaps a remake of your old Sweden one) my second idea is an alternate world where America was a colonial empire like most European nations (ie what if America participated in the scramble for Africa) my last idea is an alternate history of South Africa video. That’s all I’ve got tbh (also the scenario you made here is pretty cool keep up the good work)
@tatarkhan33
@tatarkhan33 3 года назад
So how do you call this redreich
@t-brick538
@t-brick538 4 года назад
amazing video! like always....
@cristianlupetto9563
@cristianlupetto9563 Месяц назад
Thank you Poland
@royaltek
@royaltek 4 года назад
Wasn’t the annexation of Austria forbidden by the treaty of Versailles?
@liker-qd4fz
@liker-qd4fz 4 года назад
Wasnt going sicko mode annexing or puppeting 60 % of europe and mamy lands in aisa forbotten either?
@soldier-01der
@soldier-01der 4 года назад
That was in WW2 Treaty.
@9_9876
@9_9876 4 года назад
@@soldier-01der no, it was in Versailles too
@liker-qd4fz
@liker-qd4fz 4 года назад
@@soldier-01der IT was in both.
@mauricionaves2449
@mauricionaves2449 4 года назад
nice man, good video!
@BartlomiejDmowski
@BartlomiejDmowski 2 года назад
Scary scenario... Especially when you live near Warsaw
@EgorKour
@EgorKour Год назад
what if the Soviets had won?
@BartlomiejDmowski
@BartlomiejDmowski Год назад
@@EgorKour yes Instead of a nice state developing after the lack of independence, we would have faced total destruction, bloody repressions and probably russification. God bless the fact that we won
@EgorKour
@EgorKour Год назад
@@BartlomiejDmowski you're not telling the truth... all Soviet republics within the USSR developed, factories, schools, universities and so on were built.. repression would definitely be stupid to deny it... but against the political prisoners, not the nation.. and about Russification in general nonsense... The Bolsheviks turned to the benefit of national minorities... if there was Russification, there would be no Ukrainian SSR, Belarusian SSR, Kazakh SSR And even more so the Yakut ASSR, Buryat ASSR, Tatar ASSR and so on... the main policy of the USSR is internationalism, where all peoples are equal!
@BartlomiejDmowski
@BartlomiejDmowski Год назад
@@EgorKour there was development, yes, but honestly, a lot was done with bad quality. Or maybe I'm wrong, I'm speaking only for Poland after WW2. Maybe USSR was different Glad that you don't deny repressions. But I have few questions, namely regarding Great Purge Why Jukums Vacietis, Vasily Blyukher, Tukhachevsky, Gienrich Jagoda or Kamenev were executed? Or Vsevolod Mayerhold or Isaak Babel? These are just few who were unfairly executed during that time, and the list is much longer. Or, what I truly despise, why were national minorities suppressed? Poles, Volga Germans, Koreans, Chinese, Finns, Greeks and many more. During Great Purge And um, no, sadly there was rusification. There was a period when Ukraine for instance enjoyed huge autonomy and Ukrainian culture flourished, but Stalin ended this. And one example of rusification is that when Ukrainians asked if an Ukrainian could become the head of their SSR, Moscow denied. I agree that rusification surely wasn't very harsh, but it still existed. An example is that Russian language was introduced and Cyrilic alphabet as well So, sadly despite really great ideas of USSR, reality was pretty scary and sad. But that's my opinion and I want to say one more thing. Honestly, I don't mind much if USSR exists or not. So long as it stays away from Poland and lets us live in our own way
@EgorKour
@EgorKour Год назад
@@BartlomiejDmowski I do not deny that there was something bad in the USSR... It seems to me that we should build a new communism taking into account the mistakes of the past but liberals and capitalists are afraid of this and with the help of propaganda they are trying to equate communism with Nazism, taking into account its mistakes and not its good features... and about russification the fact that Moscow refused to accept Ukrainians into the party looks like nonsense how then do you think Khrushchev joined the party if he was a Ukrainian... and about the language, Russian was chosen as the main state language because half the country spoke it, but no one forbade Ukrainian, Kazakh, Armenian and so on
@turcanadian
@turcanadian 4 года назад
I remember this video. Did you reuploaded?
@connerfrench9724
@connerfrench9724 4 года назад
How many frames is this ?
@user-im5zr8kp8o
@user-im5zr8kp8o 4 года назад
Nice video! Do you want to continue this new "red" universe?
@BartlomiejDmowski
@BartlomiejDmowski 9 месяцев назад
Seeing Greeks and Armenians losing against the Turkey is always painful to watch
@SacredPie
@SacredPie 4 года назад
What is the music
@andreimapper5841
@andreimapper5841 4 года назад
TACHANKA.
@SacredPie
@SacredPie 4 года назад
@@andreimapper5841 thanks
@andreimapper5841
@andreimapper5841 4 года назад
@@SacredPie no problem.have a nice day
@imperialmappercorporation2540
@imperialmappercorporation2540 4 года назад
WTF cd foxy, where you find this map you use ?
@maciejkamil
@maciejkamil 4 года назад
I watched this just to see the Entente-Soviet war and I didn't get it.
@mihailaromanianguy3
@mihailaromanianguy3 4 года назад
The tachanka goes click click pewpewpew
@dmitrygerasimov7869
@dmitrygerasimov7869 4 года назад
Лайк за "песни огненных лет"
@lorenensemapping2215
@lorenensemapping2215 4 года назад
part 2 when?
@dragonsiniestro1786
@dragonsiniestro1786 4 года назад
Thanks you is awesome! ::)
@Slayer_UK
@Slayer_UK 2 года назад
Thanks god Poland won in Warsaw!
@EgorKour
@EgorKour Год назад
Thank God? that is, the faith and patriotism of the country is better than the happiness and equality of the people?
@stoopkiiid
@stoopkiiid 4 года назад
So basically, everyone is just tryna rush for land? Also good video
@brooklybeli6970
@brooklybeli6970 Год назад
Why would Italy take Albania? They failed irl and it almost led to a Revolution. Italy might well have gone Red in this timeline
@shkrwsh207
@shkrwsh207 3 года назад
2:39 Ear rape whistle ç_ç
@oceanweatherandmapping9414
@oceanweatherandmapping9414 4 года назад
Why didn't the Entate and Comintern fight in Germany
@pcgaming7680
@pcgaming7680 3 года назад
because of the rhine
@oceanweatherandmapping9414
@oceanweatherandmapping9414 3 года назад
I know
@oceanweatherandmapping9414
@oceanweatherandmapping9414 2 года назад
@@pcgaming7680 Couldnt they have crossed it
@jakubzagraniczny733
@jakubzagraniczny733 3 года назад
Make future of this scenario!
@khato111
@khato111 Месяц назад
Some two cents from a Communist: I think this scenario is unlikely. Even if the Bolsheviks won the war with Poland, I doubt they would have actually marched all the way to Germany and the rest of Eastern Europe. Think about it. The Bolsheviks were in the middle of a civil war, also fighting a number of nations by 1920, and the Revolution in Germany had failed a year earlier. I doubt Lenin would have risked war with the Western powers over a failed revolution in Germany. Perhaps when the revolution was still going on they would have lent some military support, but certainly not in 1920. The only reason the Bolsheviks entered into a war with Poland was because Poland essentially struck first - seizing the opportunity of a vulnerable Russia to take its lands. There was never any intention of spreading the revolution Westward by means of bayonet.
@MOCCMapping
@MOCCMapping 4 года назад
Good video!!😁
@blackleaguemapping434
@blackleaguemapping434 4 года назад
Finally!!! I love it
@jamiemcintosh3030
@jamiemcintosh3030 7 месяцев назад
With the Rhineland and the German industrial Ruhr areas occupied, could the Germans build more factories east of the Rhine? Of course, they have the coal-rich Silesia area in Czechoslovakia.
@andreydubovitskiy6056
@andreydubovitskiy6056 2 года назад
Countryballs Alternate History Of Europe Disaster On The Vistula Soviet Victory To Warsaw 1920-1921 Year Euro-Bolshevik War 1920-1921 Year 15 August 1920 Year, 20 October 1921 Year Team Entente And Allies VS Team Comintern And Allies
@andreydubovitskiy6056
@andreydubovitskiy6056 2 года назад
Józef Pilsudski Flees Into Exile In Paris 1920 Year 23 August 1920 Year
@andreydubovitskiy6056
@andreydubovitskiy6056 2 года назад
Second Revolution In Germany 1920 Year 3-4 October 1920 Year
@andreydubovitskiy6056
@andreydubovitskiy6056 2 года назад
Makhno-Soviet War 1920 Year 20-29 October 1920 Year
@andreydubovitskiy6056
@andreydubovitskiy6056 2 года назад
Anschluss With Austria 1920 Year 9-11 November 1920 Year
@andreydubovitskiy6056
@andreydubovitskiy6056 2 года назад
Greek Operation To Occupy Ankara 1921 Year 15 January 1921 Year
@josephbuzar5171
@josephbuzar5171 4 года назад
Yes finally!
@flame9826
@flame9826 11 месяцев назад
Man, I think it's impossible for such a proxy war in Yugoslavia and Greece to be so fast. I think Greece would more probably have something like the Korean war, happening, with lots of Entente troops coming from south and the rough terrain. About Yugoslavia, I think there would be Entente reinforcements coming into the Montenegro and Herzegovina regions, elongating the war there too. And also, I think, Romanian and Austrian reactionaries would wage an insurgency in Alpine and Carpathian mountains.
@perunproductions9126
@perunproductions9126 4 года назад
Thats a lot of war for being an interwar period..
@perunproductions9126
@perunproductions9126 4 года назад
Noice vid : )
@perunproductions9126
@perunproductions9126 3 года назад
@Baniškian Cartography Ik, but the interwar means between wars, meaning world war 1 and world war 2, but it really should be multiple like dozens of interwar periods
@cipher1579
@cipher1579 4 года назад
pretty epic
@baluumccarron4735
@baluumccarron4735 3 года назад
I think the Soviet victory is being way to over exemplified, First off Germany had millions of veterans from WWI, second the Soviet army by the time they had reached Poland was overstretched, so even with a Soviet victory Invasion of Germany would fail and they would lose their holdings in Poland, possibly resulting in the fall of the young USSR. Because the German army could crush whatever elite units the Soviets could call up, because keep in mind even with Russian veterans the German army was still better trained and better equipped, also with the potential Britain and France could side with Germany in this conflict, already guarantees no communist intervention in Europe.
@WTFCDFoxy
@WTFCDFoxy 3 года назад
I agree. This is a unrealistic video
@bf.5016
@bf.5016 3 года назад
@@WTFCDFoxy but a great one.
@obamagaming-zv4vy
@obamagaming-zv4vy 2 года назад
@@WTFCDFoxy hey foxy what was the song in this video
@dthedddtheddd803
@dthedddtheddd803 Год назад
Where is Irish independence?
@9_9876
@9_9876 4 года назад
By the way the song is amazing... What is its name?
@manifest5768
@manifest5768 4 года назад
First one or second one? For the first one I believe it's Tachanka ( Тачанка), but I'm not sure about the second one.
@9_9876
@9_9876 4 года назад
@@manifest5768 ty
@thanasisvoutsas461
@thanasisvoutsas461 4 года назад
part 2?
@Thegreenmapper
@Thegreenmapper 4 года назад
Its finaly here
@fleshtearer4399
@fleshtearer4399 3 месяца назад
Blessed reality.
@Scenariania
@Scenariania 4 года назад
Lenin's wet dream.
@stoopkiiid
@stoopkiiid 4 года назад
yes
@RedStarMapping
@RedStarMapping 4 года назад
That music lmao xd
@captainstryker2326
@captainstryker2326 3 года назад
Tachanka - Red Army Good music in my opinion
@avarmapping3662
@avarmapping3662 4 года назад
Interesting
@Metonoktaexe
@Metonoktaexe 3 года назад
Hmm... Turkish Inderpent War ends with Turkey joins to Cominitern.
@yazovgaming
@yazovgaming 2 года назад
Beyond Cursed
@Metonoktaexe
@Metonoktaexe 2 года назад
@@yazovgaming And Ataturk does that. Far, far beyond cursed Mr. Yazov
@blagoevski336
@blagoevski336 4 года назад
Epic
@stofikmapping1733
@stofikmapping1733 Год назад
That reminds me Mongolian invasion of the central Europe in 13. century, but there was one difference. In 1241-1242, Wenceslas I. the One-Eyed, the King of Bohemia was the only ruler that was able to defeat the invaders, but in 1921, Masaryk's nearly 1000 km long Czechoslovakia was conquered by barbarians in five days. The sudeten-germans, Rusins and Hungarians had to help the invaders. And I also don't take how was Romanian army able to liberate complete eastern Hungaria from the whole german-bolshevik army but when it was attacked from Ukraine it was defeated too fast. And how was Russia able to defeat Finns and Whites in freezing february (you know that the red army couldn't do it in 1939) but after the victory they stopped their advance (maybe because of the spring mud, but they didn't renew their advance in summer). And how was the Greek army able to face the combined forces of the barbarian alliance and KKE (and in the early phase also Turkey) only with small support of Entente (their bigger operations begun in the summer). And why the Yugoslavia wasn't destroyed, but only lost poor North Macedonia and small part of Vojvodina.
@Stanfoullah
@Stanfoullah 4 года назад
I love the first song
@kanazamkniety8790
@kanazamkniety8790 4 года назад
I'm watching foreign mapping and lipa Polish mapping is much better but yours is the best abroad but I will give you to e.g. slava A and balle are tragic sorry for mistakes, i'm from poland
@dismantledhenry5006
@dismantledhenry5006 3 года назад
Ay cool
@sgp7931
@sgp7931 2 года назад
i love u
@hastnicke_
@hastnicke_ 4 года назад
Thicc belarus
@knightofliberty9297
@knightofliberty9297 4 года назад
No one won this war. Only Poland and USSR won. Their allies did not.
@davideamato1007
@davideamato1007 4 года назад
YEEEEEAH
@franzsohn7676
@franzsohn7676 3 года назад
This is the good ending
@dylan_not_dillon
@dylan_not_dillon 3 года назад
indeed especially if you like a ,longer, bloodier war, as well as authoritarian governments I guess it wasn’t real communism then? 🤔
@lordpolish2727
@lordpolish2727 3 года назад
I hear the communists still weap over the Polish victory at Warsaw
@MrBloxy-wz1zb
@MrBloxy-wz1zb 4 года назад
Seems a little unrealistic and very biased :/
@National-Democrat.Ukrainian
@National-Democrat.Ukrainian 4 года назад
Poor Europe gonna end up in ecnomic ruin...
@blagoevski336
@blagoevski336 4 года назад
Yeah
@olegsavinkov7950
@olegsavinkov7950 4 года назад
опять ты бл*? Okay,lets just assume this happens,lets assume Stalin as in our timeline also rose to power. However 1-With the economic,scientific and industrial powerpoints of Austria,Czechoslovakia,Poland and Germany(yes,a lot of it will be still in the Ruhr,but its not the single center of economy),Soviet Union: 1a-Wont need to go for neckbreaking industrialization in 10 years,yes it will have to rebuild Europe,but still. 2a-Wont need to suffer the "golden blockade" to buy machines for grain,therefore,the collectivization pressure might be lower than in our timeline. 3a-Without the intense collectivization,famine will still occur,it occured even in major countries like America and Germany in 30s. But far less devastating. 2-Without NSDAP,sure,the Spanish Civil War will still erupt,however it will simply end after a year.With Germany on Red Side. And without NSDAP,and only Comintern,the French Communists will have more possibilities to be elected. 1b-Therefore,the Decolonization will happen way earlier. No Indochinese,Algerian war and no Cambodia and Pol Pot 2b-The War will happen with the Japanese and the Brits,they were de-facto allies. Perhaps Italy might join,but do you think that Japan,Brittain and Italy could beat USSR,Germany,France and China?Yes,China as well,without German Attack,and far less threat internationally(Dont forget about US being isolationist). Soviets would definetly be more concerned about issues in the East,and therefore-Mao,or Wang Ming,the moderate wing of the party Stalin personally preffered over Mao(and Wang Ming wasnt an idiot to do the Great Leap Forward) 3-We sure might have a war with Brits and Italy,the Soviet Union after a war is secured,it has no reason to ruin Europe. It will have only Reason to develop it further,dont you think that with Communist Groups in Europe they wont favour someone more progressive after Stalin passing away?
@National-Democrat.Ukrainian
@National-Democrat.Ukrainian 4 года назад
@@olegsavinkov7950 So you bassicaly say that USSR and Germany will loot eatern europe to collectiveze themselfs, okay. Franco still going to win, France and Britain will have no communist Spain at their backdoor, plus Mussolini is still a factor, no France and Britain will hold their territory as dearly as ever, because its only thing they got aganist USSR,Brits& Americans could give Japan what they wanted(oil) if those would focus on USSR, also why you are saying no Pol Pot is a good thing? Also Mussolini isnt that dumb, he would ally Brits&French, google "Stressa Front".
@olegsavinkov7950
@olegsavinkov7950 4 года назад
1-Why looting Eastern Europe,if both Germany and USSR already had everything 1.1-Are you blind?When I wrote about looting all of Europe? 2-A lot of the Internationalists Brigades were still from America.Even Mexico supported the Republicans. The fascist Italy will simply loose,as this is wont be the same as Ethiopian Conflict. 2.1-I doubt Britain will directly intervene,they had their own problems. Considering that many of the Brits(even the famous George Orwell),and the French,with far more influence of the Communist Party now will risk doing that. 2.3-Like Italy didnt had communists themselves. I doubt that in this scenario with direct border(and therefore,more ways of supply) Mussolini rise for power will be that fast,if not fascists left syndicalist wing will convince him to change his ideals and turn to them,instead of the Right Wing of the Party. 3-and US was isolationists and with FDR didnt even cared about USSR as a threat,in fact quite opposite-a trade partner. And you really think the Soviets will just not throw everything at Japanese after Khalkin Gol and Khasan?They have the cause for war,and superior army,I dont need to remind that in both conflicts,the Red Army won. 4-Saying no Pol Pot is a good thing,like,yes. Google Khmer Rogue. А так-извините,но вы мудак.
@National-Democrat.Ukrainian
@National-Democrat.Ukrainian 4 года назад
@@olegsavinkov7950 I didnt say pol pot was good, i said he created true communism. War-torn Ussr and Germany in middle of gigantic inflation had everything? Oh please. Couldn't Brits with French blockade passages for soviet and other Comintern volunteers. Good point about USA tho. No left-wing syndicalist wouldn't convince Mussolini because by the end of the video fascist were already winning power struggle in Italy, even Lenin admited that italian com.party didn't had needed men for revolution, a.k.a they are f#cked.
@Airborne675
@Airborne675 4 года назад
I Will Seen Alternate WW2 Soviets Vs Allies.
@NicholasEzclapz
@NicholasEzclapz 4 года назад
Worst timeline
@EgorKour
@EgorKour Год назад
why?
@lunawoody
@lunawoody 4 года назад
Oooooh
@mertguler9340
@mertguler9340 4 года назад
ı am stalin brother
@markoman19
@markoman19 4 года назад
Did you hear the good news, after 30 years they overthrew the dictator from Montenegro and finally became a democratic country 🇲🇪🇷🇸
@fellerme1
@fellerme1 3 года назад
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere yeah youre right
@Albulandii
@Albulandii Год назад
Nightmare
@EgorKour
@EgorKour Год назад
why?
@radopon
@radopon 4 года назад
First
@danyele107
@danyele107 4 года назад
Also Italy want to become red 😢
@nationalrevolutionary9572
@nationalrevolutionary9572 4 года назад
Second
@kingdomoffreshlandgov7315
@kingdomoffreshlandgov7315 4 года назад
1st!!!!!!!!
@nationalrevolutionary9572
@nationalrevolutionary9572 4 года назад
Nope.
@nationalrevolutionary9572
@nationalrevolutionary9572 4 года назад
Dispenser was first
@Gamer-is6ew
@Gamer-is6ew 4 года назад
Ah yes, a better world indeed
@BartlomiejDmowski
@BartlomiejDmowski 2 года назад
I recommend you to read about Polish-Bolshevik War. After getting known much about it I'm sure that the good side won
@AinKrab
@AinKrab 2 года назад
A much much worse world
@pep-qew
@pep-qew Год назад
Kid in middle class family in west that never had any problem with money. If USSR won you will starve at street.
@williandarosa5485
@williandarosa5485 4 года назад
I made 2 timelines for a soviet victory scenario: *FIRST SCENARIO: STALEMATE* 1 - russia waits until january 1921 to invade germany, in order to better their supply lines and redeploy troops. Homever this gives germany the time to send troops to the birder since they were scared of the soviets after the german revolution 2 - yet, they are not enough to stop the massive soviet attack with at least 500 thousand troops, the main soviet attack is in a direct line to Berlin, which will likely fall in some weeks. Also for prussia. 3 - despite the fall of Berlin germany doesn´t surrender, dozens of thousands of war veterans and citizens mobilize to fight the communist invasion, and with support of the allies they fight and slow a bit the soviets near the borders of our timeline´s east germany 4 - Nobody expects germany to survive. france, expecting a communist germany to ignore the treaty of verssalhes, intervenes together with the allies to make peace, which is made in the sprin of that year 5 - If that doesn´t happen. Then after some months of fighting in a stalemate, both sides come to a peace agreement, borders are similar to OTM east germany 6 - the soviet invasion, combined with humilhation of the great war, economic chaos, and after that a 1922 allied occupation of the ruhr brings the nazis to power in 1922/1923, what will happen after? l don´t know *SECOND SCENARIO: SOVIET VICTORY * 1 - the only thing that changes here is that the allied support and german army aren´t enough to stop the soviets and the intervention don´t stop the soviets or never happens, and germany will fall in the summer or by the winter of 1921. 2 - the anti-communists might run to the rhineland, where they will be protected by the allied occupation, lf this happens, the rhineland will become a independent nation. Austria and czechoslovakia might become communists in the 20´s 3 - With the revolution spreading to europe, socialism in one country basically never exist. And USSR and germany will send a lot of support to republican spain, lf that is significant enough, italy might leave the conflict by 1941 - 42 due to the costs or something, which will cause the nationalists to lose the war. 4 - the soviets will supply the japanese in order to weaken the americans in the pacific war, this together with the fact that the manhatan project won´t happen will cause the war to extent to 1947. 5 - To 1947 the soviets will be ready for war, and they might try to invade eurasia, and will conquer turkey, the balkans, most of china, scandinavia, korea and iran. And l don´t know how long the war will last, maybe 1 or 3 years. 6 - In the cold war the soviets will have a stronger economy and leadership, possibily with more competent leaders that will reform the nation and save it. But lf that doesn´t happen, then germany will invade the now non-communist countries, and march to moscow to take down gorbrachev, so USSR might survive. And the cold war continues to this day.
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