I’ve never seen a 4 year old that good at talking and expressing herself. She was so calm, patient and reasonable when speaking with Jo. She’s probably in her mid 20s or 30s now? And I have no doubt that her life is successful and amazing.
@@devanireneeortman it was cute of her lying to get attention that’s the big problem for her The parents can’t read her mind she needs to speak up until her mother was going on with her I was feeling bad for Kate but she not needed to lie
I've seen so many "medical miracle" kids grow up entitled little monsters whom no one can stand because their parents won't say no to their fragile little miracle kid.
I think some of the “medical miracle” kids have some brain injury too. Makes harder to concentrate, learn, understand consequences, etc. The parents need extra “parenting classes” with Jo Frost. Week 22 is very early and traumatic for parents. 🌹
I doubt it's really *never,* but at the same time, I'm glad she behaves well AND knows it and will tell you so. She's so sweet. It really bothers me that she was so sad, I hope things got better.
It may just be "oldest sibling syndrome" but when Kate gets reprimanded for her reactions to what the twins do, it makes my blood boil. She's only four, and she went from it being just her, mom, and dad to her, mom, dad, and the twins. She doesn't know how to regulate her emotions about it all. Honestly I'm surprised her behavior isn't worse. I mean all she really did was lie about being in pain just so her parents would give her even the smallest crumb of attention, and have fairly mild reactions to the twins misbehaving.
Agreed. Such classich bad parenting. The "miracle babies" are healthy and able to learn discipline. Kate is very smart. She needs to be read to and have attention paid to her.
older daughters tend to be parentified and learn that the only time they're given attention is when they are fulfilling that role and become "mature for their age". its not until later they start to realize how harmful that was
@@Rawia_Flop She was 4!!! A child doesn't reach the age of reason until they're 7! She wasn't lying!!! She eas coping in the only way she could figure out to address the problem at that time on her life!
2022 update on family. Mom and dad still married. Kate is playing volleyball at University of Evansville Nick and Teddy both graduated high school in 2021 and Nick joined the Marines shortly after oorah!! Beautiful family everyone looks well! ❤️
Kate broke my heart, she's so mature for her age and because of that she gets ignored. I'm so glad that for probably the first time ever she had someone to listen to her. Mum, you have 3 kids, love them equally!!
@@graceharrison1991 this will play out in the future as her finding other ways to get other people’s attention. sometimes it converts itself to histrionic personality disorder or other personality disorders. I worry about Kate
Honestly regardless if they are Miracle children or not, they are STILL children that look to you to teach them right from wrong. Of course you’re happy to have them with you, but they still need your guidance to learn right from wrong.
Totally. Those boys don't remember their birth trauma. It's time for the parents to get some separate therapy for that experience and get down to business with their family of five.
Poor Kate just sitting in the background omg. I know it's hard on mom. I'm a young mom and I struggle to spread my attention to my three. This literally made me cry. She loves her mommy so much and she understands it is the boys but she still needs mommy. I'm so happy jo helped this family.
Why reproduce so much so little in between tho if you struggle 😬😬 whenever i watch these i always wonder why they pop out more kids when they can barely handle the ones they have.
@@mariepayannt's not in the least funny. Having children so close together is definitely bad for the kids themselves. Kate was only 1 when her parents' attention suddenly and all but exclusively turned to their extremely fragile new born sons. She can't but feel of secondary importance and secondary value. We should teach kids in high school how important it is to space one's children in age. The ideal gap is about 4 years. Kate should have had her mom's and dad's undivided attention until now, in fact. Instead, she's been emotionally neglected in her toddlerhood. 😢
I like when the children, all grown up, make comments on Supernanny channels concerning their own episodes. Some have recalled Jo and film crew, silly incidents and how they’re doing now.
The mom says it so well at the end. Jo is not judgmental and that gives the parents space to grow and do better. It is truly amazing to see those two sweet parents do better and learn. Very inspiring!
The mother asks, How do we discipline them? The same way you would discipline any other child! They’re strong and healthy. How can parents be so clueless?
Well because they were still caught up with the traumatic birth experience, they had translucent skin, they had heart surgery etc...but Jo made them see that they were living in the past and they worked through that.
@@nicolelipscombe6335 the parents admitted they were healthy now and that’s why they were avoiding punishing them since they’re so lucky. OP didn’t pull healthy from nowhere. The parents know already they just are dumb
I felt sorry for Kate. She shouldn't have to lie to get attention. I'm glad the parents were willing to learn to pay attention to all the kids, not just the twins.
Yes your absolutely right! Kates mother should give them all equal attention no kid should have to lie for there mom’s affection or love it is not right kates mom has to realize she’s not giving Kate as much as attention as teddy or nic
Yea , it’s heart breaking to see & hear that Kate had to make up foot cramps just to get her mothers attention and love 😢 . She is so sweet and intelligent. Hope she gets the love she deserves
2:57 I think it’s interesting that the nicer parents talk about Jo’s warming presents when the misdirected parents always feel threatened. The difference is, they’re willingness to take the responsibility for their kids actions.
I feel so much like this girl I don't get any attention from my parents because my one of my brother's has adhd and couldn't talk until he was 4 and my other brother was suicidal and had to go to the hospital. But they always forget me even though I have issues they don't help. I'm glad her parents payed more attention to her
Father always asking permission. Yikes! “I’m going to take the car away, ok?” Don’t ask - he’s a kid! Just take the car away and tell him he will get it back after he eats. It’s not hard.
I can see your point about the amount of attention Teddy gets while Kate seems to be by herself. I suspect that Teddy is behind developmentally, especially in his language and communication skills. I am happy to see that years later, the kids were thriving.
Robert Tsironis: 56 years old Elizabeth Tsironis: 54 years old Kate Tsironis: 22 years old Theodore Tsironis: 20 years old Nicholas Tsironis: 20 years old
True, but maybe our comments can help other parents. And I hope these adult kids can now look back and realize how inept their parents were and what monsters they were.
I understand that it's difficult when you're in it but how did the parents not realise what was really the purpose of their daughters foot cramps? It seemed obvious
I just love this family. They were really struggling, but they were so open and ready for change. Instead of fighting against Nanny Jo, they embraced her wisdom and advise and couldn't wait to become better parents and spouses to one another. This episode was so inspiring and delightful.
The mom was just the cutest person and she really did her very best to get her children on track I'm glad Dad started to step up and as usual JoJo got the children to comply great job once again JoJo to the rescue! ❤️
Does anyone watch these episodes and look at the parents faces and ages? Idk why, but I’m almost their age and they look so much older than people their age are nowadays.
What’s so sad is the mom can register the pain in Kate’s cries and that’s what genuinely makes her believe the cramps hurt, but all of the pain in her cries were just from heartbreak at not getting attention 😢
Parents PLAY with your children. Listen to your children. They need to feel what they are saying is important and their frustrations and feelings matter. Time with each child seperately is equally important. I hope the best for this family.
This episode is very interesting to me. My sister and I were premature twins, but also our parents first kids. We didn’t get away with things like these boys though. As we got older I've come to realize that between my siblings I am the child that gets forgotten. So very interesting to see my experiences spread across this family.
My heart broke when Jo said "Do your feet really hurt or is it something you say so Mummy gives you cuddles?" and Kate said "It's when Mummy gives me cuddles".
Letting your kids behave like assholes because they lived, but not enjoying the kids that you let behave like assholes. But not being exhausted enough to change. Like what???
I love this family! Both parents love their kids & I believe that the traumatic birth just scarred the parents & all these could see were the sick, almost dying babies. I love the parents & they just want the best for Kate & the twins
Kate is one of my favorite kids from Supernanny. She is very well behaved, mature, and articulate for her age. It’s a pity that her goodness went unnoticed by her parents and that Kate had to feign foot cramps to get her parents’ attention. My blood boiled when Kate’s mother told Kate to rub her own feet. Kate is going to do good things in life. She knows her facts. Kate for President.
Boy, if mommy can’t say lies (non-truths) are not okay, or I know you’re lying (“she’s 4”), well, honey, do it now or forever hold your peace because they are going to eat you alive, mommy.
I’m watching you. I’m a live in carer for mainly dementia obviously my older clients. Your varied approach has helped me so much. I’m learning from you in ideas, challenges and activities. Thank you.
