Discord Makes itself Worse! 

To be fair, you did still have to add some shit to the end, it was just a # followed by 4 numbers

I struggle to understand this. To me it just seems like you can still have the name you want with a # and four numbers at the end but people can have their tag without numbers if it's unique. Seems like a lot of people agree with you so im interested to know why that is not a good option for you.

@@simmojosh71 The problem is that with the numbers system, you can have any name you want whether it's actually unique or not and not have to worry about it beyond that since discord adds the numbers automatically. With the @ system, even though the end result is the same in that your display name doesn't need to be unique, you need to put in the time and effort to make your username unique which is completely pointless when we already have a system that works.

or you can add the same four numbers

@@cartamarpharious 3 blog posts in the past year, lol. Not gonna happen buddy if the developer(s) don't even seem to give a shit about their own app.

yeah its so stupid

I mean, they could do something about that if it's a backend problem. But it's quite strange that they didn't went deep into solving the actual system

I really didn't get their argument there either, since now "john" or whatever would have to be "_-__john12_2--22345_%_-5"

@@ooliver You left the XXXJohnXXXyourMomXXX

It could have been so easy, they could have allowed 5 digits in the discriminator instead of 4. But no, let's rather implement the same bullshit as everyone else.

Can't wait that to happen

I really hope Element does it.

@@yuvalne I was already considering Element or some other Matrix-based client. This just pushed me more towards it

@@XiqZo I really just want more people there

a vicious cycle

if you want you can still just put 4 numbers at the end of your username, and change those whenever you want, without changing your nickname

Which, to quote Luke from the clip, "WHY?!?!" Most people really don't want that because they already have a Twitter/Facebook account and they like that Discord does none of that. And just like Linus said, a lot of users don't want to be easily searched on the platform

@@Gameover38444 because they were bought out by Microsoft and the investors demand growth and a revenue stream over user experience or support

​@@Gameover38444 investors demand growth

@@jst_TV Maybe I missed it but I thought that deal didn't actually go through...?

@@jst_TV They were not bought by Microsoft AND they're not publicly traded. So no

It's funnier that it is just literally one click in the app on all platforms to copy your username with the discriminators too.

@@touma-san91 I mean, theoretically discord can be your first way of communication through internet so I can understand if the copy itself does not help (of course it wont be in 99.9%), but the fact that you can just open the app and see it means you really dont need to remember it.

I had to conciously look at the number like.. 3 times? I usually just share an invite link to a server, very rarely my username.

@@Garagantua Yeah, the proper solution to the direct friend adding would honestly be to be able to generate a similar kind of link to your profile, if it has some fancy characters in the username. Then you can also generate a QR code and be able to scan it on another phone irl. Some platforms do this and it works out just fine.

This is what I was thinking. It's not too often that I need to share my username and tag with someone. Usually people just connect through servers or friends of friends, in my experience at least.

Probably some moron high up in the company thinking this makes Discord appeal to a wider audience. I can't see them making too many more decisions like this before people decide to jump ship.

@@Maytemberr The exact same logic you are using works in reverse: "As long as the people you want to interact with can find you, the string they use to do it holds no intrinsic value.". So what's the actual advantage? Discord argues that it's easier to remember, but I am not "@a0e5345db" is easier to remember than @Furiends6969.

this is for sure a change just to change somethink

​@BoundlessNotch not sure if you are trolling or not. You can more easily identify an @ name than a name with a discriminator. Simply because you can search for partial @ name. You were not responsible for the discriminator. Now you have to design your whole @. Making you much more identifyable. Especially if you are one of those who do not want to look like a bot with a weird @ name

@BoundlessNotch you said it's better for the platform. Yet you also mention in a positive way that it's a string that ID you. So you are saying it's better for the platform to force used to self assign their string and be way, way more identifyable, instead of having a string that is assign to you, and everyone is treated the same. It's not better. It's what make twitter so shit. It's a pointless change at best, and a change that will make user way more identifyable across platform.

And press on the username to copy it to clipboard for easy sharing

​@BoundlessNotch Doesn't it also generate a QR Code that you can share?

@@Spiker985Studios how do you do that QR thing? I only see a reader which is used to log on to a browser without typing.

​​@@Maytemberr that sure won't be incovenient when people try to name themselves "dillion" and then they have to follow it with a massive string of numbers because of how common the name dillion is.

@@Maytemberr Thats on the user, they made their name difficult and so they should be the one who deals with the aftermath. You're going to have to remember/enter those in properly anyways undoubtedly because 'hey, only one user can have this username ever', and you think Discord is going to make it easier to add people yet?

Yes, they are just copying each other. Similar to YT and Instagram stealing shorts shit from TikTok

Curious what's wrong with the app

@@coolestto no you're not, you're just waiting for someone to tell you something so you can reply "well I don't have that problem :)"

Their old android app is still good, I am on version 126, the version before they switched to the bad ReactJS framework

@@coolestto problems with video embed on twitter links lag when gif appears on screen disappearing bar when replying to message getting link to an image needs jumping through a hoop (compare with video link sharing in youtube app, with copy link button) search doesn't work in muted channels blocking people doesn't work for several seconds on app load message links (that go to a specific message) lag haaard when clicked oh yeah, also it's extremely hard to report bugs as well, nice combo

Discord execs really trying to copy advanced manipulation tactics

Literally who cares what they were called lol. Realistically, you could probably figure it out from context if the term was brought up even if you didn't know beforehand.

so pretty much they were going to do this anyway and tried to use that thread as a scape-goat

​@@Junebug89 This is exactly what I did when watching this segment.

​@@saturn5mtw567 Furries

Preech

You can still put numbers though no?

You can just add stuff to the end of your username if you want privacy.

@@simmojosh71 tags will disappear

@@TheUnlocked nobody will do that though

You could do that a time ago

Everyone would have #0001

@@parados5736 no they wouldnt because most are just taken

@@parados5736 Nope, I would have #0420

​@@parados5736 no mine is 6969

And the way Xbox didn't force you to change. Legacy users didn't need to update to the new system. Similarly, LoL did something similar where when they added discriminators, legacy users had their region attached.

when did xbox change?

​@@scy10 ohmygod I never realized that that was the reason why it always said EUW on my server, I'm an idiot

I think iirc they said that after the migration, the old name+digits that you used to have would still make you reachable by them (though that begs the question about what if you don't want to be searchable by them anymore at some point...)

Can't wait to update my handle on all my public/open source projects

legacy 4 digits reminds me of legacy check marks

@@joshallen128 the things we took for granted on these platforms on the Internet in the past are being killed by out of touch execs. I hope regular users get more of a say in these changes one day

@@arbaran01 Let's hope one of the many open source projects take off.

A friend of mine (who uses Discord more than I do) brought this up, and I tend to agree. The discriminated username system is a wonderful privacy tool to ensure you can somewhat moderate who adds you.

This, but also way more than the "traditional" special system, and let use use the whole Unicode space. Not every previous usernames are ASCII-compliant

you can change who is allowed to send friend requests to you in the settings but i like the discriminators better

You're referring to one of the most popular platforms on the planet right

@@pacmanrespector9552 Popular =/= good. Appeal to popularity fallacy. National Socialism was popular in the late 30s, doesn't mean it's good.

@Friend of P. wow dude you totally owned me with your knowledge of fallacies. Better go tell all the twitter advertisers they're engaging in a fallacy because the multi-million dollar platform with tens of millions of daily users isn't necessarily good, just incredibly popular

@@pacmanrespector9552 this is also a logical fallacy, in fact its partially a doubling-down of the original one. LMAO

@@pacmanrespector9552 Hi elon, love the burner acc

Fellow G+ user +1

@@case_sensitive Dang right

@@Maytemberr finally someone who gets it. Thank you.

@BoundlessNotch So then what's the point of unnecessarily wasting time and resources on moving from a system where this functionality is baked into the platform, to a system where this functionality is expected from the users? That's my entire problem with this change, it makes zero sense unless you look at it through a "change for the sake of change" lens. The old system is a strictly better version of the natural outcome of the new system, because that functionality is baked into the platform (positive for users) and can be readily monetised by the platform through selling the ability to choose the discriminator to the user (positive for the platform). It's not going to be easier for users to remember or share either, since users will need to remember the pseudo-discriminator or an alternative name. So what's the point?

Even better, change the discriminator to base 64 digits, and increase it to 5 digits. thats enough to allow every single user to have the same name.

which makes it not great but flipping stupid, we dont wanna reminded of the crap the goverments force us to have.. social security number is nothing but a identity to keep you like a cow in the shed.. it means less anonymity, its soo annoyning everytime to having to ask someone the last few digits to get them added, its more becoming a social platform instead of a gamers platform, i remember the days of xfire, better then that it cant get, it died as they didnt choose to become soo commercial that everybody needs a goddam number.. discord is digging its grave update by update.

Execs be like, hey there's some overlap with some twitter users, let's copy it to steal that base. Don't ask what will happen to our current user base that VASTLY out numbers the gain and let's ignore the fact that said overlapping twitter base probably already has discord and will probably hate this change too

>dying platform Since when is twitter dying?

@@LC-mq8iq This is clearly bait but I'll bite. Fuck Elon Musk and you're weird for suggesting the platform is headed in a different direction. Just wait until Bluesky is out :^)

Microsoft is going in the killer, Twitter is a meme "social media platform" and discord has way more of an impact in comparison. It's a good idea

@@LC-mq8iq twitter has been having stagnant user growth for YEARS now, Don't let the 100k like tweets fool you, twitter is basically a self contained system at this point

​@BoundlessNotch if you get a name before someone else now it'll be a lot more trustworthy, especially if you get someone's actual twitter handle

@@nintySW Best example other than like famous streamers/youtubers. Already saw quite a few people losing their minds knowing that they would more than likely get their names stolen since they joined like 2+ years in

Battle of Joshes will probably happen again too

If a group is perseverant enough, even 2FA isn't enough, happened to my old account that uad the old classic nitro cost and features...

Everyone switched to Discord from Skype because it was so much better than Skype, but now Discord has become the Skype of its time

@@jst_TV It's still miles better than Skype ever was. And at the moment there also is no good alternative to discord anyway, so it's not "the Skype of its time". They should just cut down the bs and stop doing random things like this username swap bs

Guilded is a half decent alternative to discord from a quick glance. I like it's calander feature, but it's noise cancelation isn't as good.

​@@joshuamidgette4846 same as me haha

@@pyramear5414 oh dang ill be keeping an eye on this one

No they are your friends lmao. Microsoft should've bought this shithole and just pushed the founders who keep making these stupid changes forcefully out

its not the accountant's fault though, its the people who make the decisions for the company.

@@LeviathanProbably it's actually the vp. That's what I was talking about. Not the accountants

@@TurtleSauceGaming oh alright, sorry.

@@Maytemberr because everyone have a discriminator which makes it fair. simply removing it doesn't mean everyone can be called john now, no in fact its worse its one @john and a alot of @john1231237827345678279 which just makes it worse. Unique strings will just get swept up instantly by bots and auctioned off and most of us will have to now live with crappy hard to remember usernames that will probably need number strings at the end anyways. This does not fix the issue of "not enough discriminators" like discord said its just offloading the problem to the end user which is the absolute worst way to handle the situation.

@BoundlessNotch it's a good standard already. That treats everyone equally as everyone gets the 4 digit code, helps keep privacy as everyone gets the 4 digit code, you not competing against others for getting an account without numbers especially posers, everyone can still have their name without issues, this standard is proven to work well on discord and other gaming platforms, this makes it that only one name is listed. So from all of these arguments take your pick which you find best. Also.. what is your best argument that the change is needed and that it makes it better than the current system?

It’s especially ironic because Microsoft switched over their gamer tag naming scheme to the discord style “Name#1234” 😂

I change my Discord username all the time. Quite a shame they’re making this change - I hope that the backlash, like the backlash with them almost adding the NFT wallet integration, convinces them to backtrack.

@@Ali-Aslam Seriously, this is actually the solution to stupid online identifiers and they are reversing it for some reason.

@BoundlessNotch If your issue is letter casing then that's a far easier fix.

@BoundlessNotch TL;DR: I keep my PFP the same, and my usernames are the same few ones, just because I feel like doing it no other reason pretty much. My preferred nickname tends to change every once in a while

Add a zero width space in the middle of it, ez

@@My_Old_YT_Account Tried that, no luck. Tried numericals in place of letters, even non-numericals lol. Discord really wanted to keep that name koscher

@@ryanignites5923 is clyde a swear word in some language or what?

@@anima94 It's the name of their little robot logo

what i don't understand is why you cannot do this from the start when making an account, a free ticket to change it to something more of your liking, then nitro if you wanna change it in the future, or like, no nitro required at all to change it

imagine having issues remembering a 4 digit number, which here in the netherlands is literally a pincode so you can pay with a bank card now imagine struggling to remember your own phone number

Or add letters so after it hits like 9999 next could just be 999A for example

@@touma-san91 Hexadecimal was my go-to answer, actually. Might be harder to store due to the larger range of values hexadecimal supports, but moving to hexadecimal while keeping the 4-digit limit we have now would already increase the number of users under the same name by 6.5x. Adding 5th digit onto that increases that 6.5x figure to 105x, and a 6th to 1678x.

@@jcm2606 True. Keeping the 4-digit limit though, it would still massively increase how many same names people can have and it would require less change to the system.

As a developer I'm somewhat hoping for backwards compatibility, the API will just return the discriminator 0000, though discord isn't the best at business decisions so they likely will not

Bots suck after the slash command update

why is it going to break any of that? most bots use the internal user id instead of the actual username. it would be stupid for any bot to be using someone's username to identify them because you could just change your name and break it

I'm extremely curious on what part of your bot will break due to this change. Everything I can think of has a 3 minute solution, especially if your bot follows basic practices.

@@nmills3 The discriminator is going away. For some users it may be painless, for most it will be a rename or search for a new name. Until that happens my bot permissions and scripts will be broken. Some bots won't work because they require to attach to an account with a #000. Discord said they'll be making a bot role or something like that to take over. I'll have to see what happens with that and how our Discord bots can work with that or not.

Feels more like upper management (who haven't been involved in anything and know nothing about who uses their platform) just wanted to make it as close to other social media as possible to try to draw in users. They were already rapidly losing nitro subscribers due to bad decisions, so I can't imagine why they think taking away things for users would encourage people to buy.

Probably because to them, nobody outside of the good ol' USA matters :P

i actually love this. it's genuinely easier to tell who's japanese on account of their usernames being something like "iy7j732177e" and not whatever hiragana only weebs use

@@sjuvanet have you never been to a server that's in Japanese? this change will be fucking horrible for them

discord #s are all lowercase tho, and i cant think of a single platform where case sensitivity matters outside of passwords

@@Maytemberr Indeed, Discord is the ONLY platform I couldn't get my common username on.

I have been, although they didn't seem to care

​@@touma-san91 are you a big name?

Ah yes, this is what @everyone wanted

@BoundlessNotch That is an interesting thought. The main thing I don’t like about it is that people might not be able to get their original name. e.g. “Notch#1001” and “Notch#1000” might be different people, but after the change, only one will get the name “Notch”. At least that is how I understand it.

@BoundlessNotch fair enough

push to talk is default and you need nitro for voice activity 💀

@@Zerge6095 can't wait to hardware hack a voice-activated PTT with a single PCB and a dozen components from a chinese soldering practice kit...

nah i need it

Sadly the Nitro subscription is the only thing keeping me on. The 500MB file uploads with a robust CDN are nice to have.

Old nitro accounts do get priority on choosing handles.

@@Jason9637 No, according to the announcement it's just old accounts chronologically. So you need some source to back that up

@@p0358 Recent update as of the 5th of May. If you go back to the announcement on Discord, it now mentions that if you paid for a Nitro that let you change your discriminator before March 1st, 2023 you will get early access to the changes. "In terms of rollout, we’re starting with access to owners of partner and verified servers, then to all users based on the age of their account in the coming months, starting with 2015. Current Nitro subscribers paying for the ability to customize their discriminator that registered for Nitro on or before March 1, 2023 will also be given early access."

@@VinylDashMusic Ofc owners of partner/verified servers first... screw the people that made you apparently

Teams did this. And I fucking hate it. I don't want a personal teams and a business teams

i honestly doubt it, or have you forgotten their android app and how that all became a dumpster fire in july/august 2022? i haven't updated since june's version and i don't intend to, new phone? i will just try my luck with some website for the older APK of june's release cuz screw the latest one it's a thorn in my eye already that the mobile version lacks basic features and has a cluttered ass screen now with / commands

@@CodeBroRob is that why u cant swap accs anymore on mobile or am I dumb?

@@misutsuki it might honestly be the reason yeah. but even when using the search bar in DM or in a server to look up somehing you posted in a specific month, you can't, only is a thing on the desktop version for me. wanna know you had a DM while having an active convo in a server? ppl getting pissed at you because they think u ignore their DM? well too bad, swipe right to find out if anyone tried to dm you wanna copy a username because they use non latin chars? too bad, good luck moderating this user! wanna use / command to ban someone? but u cannot remember their name and have to check? too bad the screen is filled with / commands of the 10+ bots so gamble if you ban the right user or backspace it and check who it was.

@@CodeBroRob And I thought I didn't have the latest ver or something. Jesus, discord triggers me in so many ways. Never ever will support nitro and their disgusting paywall features. Never ever had nitro since day 1, even tho I crave it every time I hit the server limit or wanna upload more than 0.01KB of data.

@@misutsuki i just get it gifted sometimes, but the 8mb limit is sooooo 2010 4k pics straight up wont send at times, let alone videos shot at 1080p, genuinely can only send 3 second vids cuz of it

Only problem my group has with Guilded is that their mobile app has performance issues on some Android phones for seemingly no reason, and the iOS app doesn't properly hook the mic. I've got no qualms beyond the basis being Chromium through Electron so the audio hooking for screen sharing on Linux doesn't happen :/ Beyond that, people are going to stick with Discord for as long as possible like they stuck with Skype. Not because it's good, but because it requires effort and time to switch and learn the new system.

That is precisely the problem, those best suited to enacting change and managing resources don't do it because what sociopath would want to be in charge of an entire country. Well, that pos sociopath def wants that.

He'd already have been assassinated by the CIA

That went well for them, considering they basically pissed off majority of their platform with this

But Discord and Twitter serve totally different purposes... How is anyone switching over from one to the other? It doesn't make sense, unless they're also going to try and become Twitter... Which would be even more stupid.

Why on earth would someone switch to discord from Twitter, this is like picking up piano instead of subscribing to Spotify premium

spacebarchat!

tell me more, @louiecamilleripreziosi

@BoundlessNotch Mentioning it alone wouldn't change anything, the point is that discords onboarding doesn't attempt to explain it, so u kinda just have to figure it out, like Linus explained about his own experience

@@touma-san91 True yeah. I was more so comparing the usernames to Twitter. On that note, I swear Facebook search is practically useless now. You see something from a group or whatever once only to never find it again no matter how hard you look. Or at least that's my experience, I'm sure someone will disagree. Anyway, so long as Discord doesn't become a social media platform and stays a messaging service it'll probably be fine. Unfortunately I feel like that's a goal of theirs for sometime down the line.

@@touma-san91 I started noticing it go downhill after the "blurple update". The forums feature is alright, but they don't really make sense unless it's a large public server. Which is fine, I mean it's literally just a single topic forum inside of a server, nothing too crazy.

@@bentracy7463 Still odd decision to have for messaging platform to add something that was last popular in like 2005

@@touma-san91 I suppose? I still use forums frequently myself so perhaps that's tainted my opinion. Personally I find that they're still one of the best ways to field ongoing questions from a large user base.

no, they are not going to unsubscribe _(well, still some might, but not that many)_ because they made it so ppl with nitro have higher priority picking their new @

@ they'll just unsubscribe after they get their username

I would encourage them to continue down this path. The Discord leadership team is rotten to the core and irredeemable, we need a competitor to take over.

i rememeber irc did something like that

Yes while writing a message it makes sense because you want to ping that person. Anywhere else it'll just confuse the hell out of people who don't use twitter.

It's not that people can remember it, it's that people ignore it.

@@Jason9637 because you don't really need it anyway you either are joining Groups & talking with people there, or you send a DM that lets you add that person

Everyone had that one friend with the needlessly strict parents they resented for giving them little to no freedom. Parents need to understand that controlling every aspect of their child's life will only ever be detrimental to their relationship with them.