Discussing Porsche VS Ferrari with Carl Hartley | Supercar Driver 

Porsche. I'm probably about the age of your Dad, Carl & have driven nearly every brand of car made & there's just NOTHING like the drive & feeling of connectedness of any 911. Plus 911's are the "everyday supercar". They're massively reliable & less expensive to maintain, while Ferrari's are "art cars". Leave them in the garage & look at them, because they brake down easily & every mile they're driven, they lose value. My favorite Ferrari memory though is, flying in a Testarossa & listening to that fabulous Flat 12. With that car, I didn't need a stereo. All things considered, if I could afford it, I'd like to have a 488 Spyder as my "special occasion" car.

TheSUPERCARDRIVER Porsche... shoddy build quality of Ferrari put me off for a lifetime.

I truly don’t find them comparable. Hand built exotic vs. German mass produced vehicle. No comparison.

DOWORK EXOTICS fair point, although if you call Porsche mass produced what does that say about BMW/Mercedes/Audi. Give me a Lamborghini over a Ferrari any day

DLH I mean Porsches are mass produced. My wife daily’s one. GT Porsche sell almost more than Carreras and S models. They are a dime a dozen anymore. Lamborghinis are still more exclusive than a Porsche. I’d take an Aventador but not the R8, I mean Huracan. Nothing “special” about it sadly. It’s an Audi.

Couldn’t agree more 🏁

Sounds like you’re in love mate.

HA Gayyyyyyyyyyyy!

xD

@@CheersDits2979 wow the internet never fails to give...CLOWN

Yes Ferrari is The KING 💪

@@hilmanfirgiansyah9728 Was*. They don't make real Ferraris anymore. Just boring hybrids and turbos and now 🤮 SUV's. But man that V12 can sing

Porsche if you really want to use it😊

Why then is every sports car measured against the 911

Why thank you Tim! High praise

Stop being pessimistic and dismissive Tim. No need. Nothing positive to say than say nothing. Rude.

They really are! Thanks for watching

We actually cut it down quite a bit! The full version will be a podcast

hopefully you've driven one before commenting...I've driven 3 gens of GT3RS and 2 of the Turbo S and they've all taken my breathe away...but I would agree it's nothing like the Italians, but different

He’s a great guy and knows the market inside out 🏁

Didn't he recently get a criminal conviction and suspended sentence for fleeing the scene of an accident caused by him road racing someone else (presumably because he was boozed up)?

Bahahahaha. Really? I take it back.

Never a truer word said

The carrera gt is Walter rohr least favorite Porsche ever built but you could say he's partial to rear-engined carreras

steven king King buy it

I think the colour is called Grigio Squalo.

@@Dhhcnkk I wish

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Thanks for watching

Well said Andrew!

Good question! Thousands

TheSUPERCARDRIVER two or ten? 🤔

Very interested in this also

@@ashs1670 a recent story has stated "these are offical aswell" london 2021 is having a massive restriction put inplace covering 8-18miles wide from the current congestion zone their banning cars older then 2016, a daily charge of £12.50 is going to be charged every day covering 24hrs a day. this doesn't cover electric/green cars, cars over 40yrs old are also not effected. by 2030-2035 the UK is going to be fossil fuel free so no petrol/diesel fuel will be sold, I cant remember if hybrid vehicles will also be banned for full GREEN vehicles.. So ppl with petrol/diesel engined cars are buggered & those spending millions on supercars.. well they'll be worthless as there's going to be no fuel to power them. the only option would be converting to full electric power OR doing a hydrogen conversion, of which theirs no private nationwide company doing such conversions.. only newly build vehicles such as buses & some trial vehicles are currently under development.. however such production numbers are increasing as is production of hydrogen fuels... now ppl have a £20M Mclaren F1 what's it worth when its fuel less & requires modification's to operate, even older-classic vehicles would require massive engine work OR replacement to run in the future so their driving characteristics will change & such mods would ultimately effect the values... dealers & manufacturers arent really speaking much about official government plans. I'm pretty sure Europe have also similar plans for similar periods as originally plans we're for 2050 however with current global warming events.. plans have been moved forward. "this can be search & verified as its REALLY going to occur"

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Very! He’s rarely wrong

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Thanks Mr Right 🏁

I wouldn't describe someone who has been convicted for racing on a public road and endangering lives a 'legend'. He has enough money to go to a racetrack if he wants to race.

@@markwood7045 Envy isn’t good 😌

@@SuperLaviathon you have got to be kidding me?! I don't envy anything about his life. I have made my money the way I have made it, he has made his. I drive things that make me happy, as does he. The difference is I don't recklessly endanger people. I don't have to be 'envious' to point out facts. I didn't take the risks. He did.

This is very true. Manufacturers have been doing this for years. Rumours ferrari did it with the laferrari and especially the tdf. Special production for special clients etc etc.

Ermmmm

Thought he'd have said 993 GT2. Now they are the daddy.

@@leonmagee3516 agreed...but imo the 993 is timeless. I'd have a 993 Turbo S over at GT2 any day of the week

Where are you getting your information from? Most places state that only 1000 GT2 RS were built. Do a Google search and the 1000 figure comes up do not sure where you got 3000 from. They do hold there value well in most markets. Perhaps USA is different but in the UK where this guy is based residual values are strong.

@@almac9203 pors9.com 1300 in NA alone. Also look at recent auction results. In comparison there's 142 997gt2rs

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@@dashcam2417 yes some very few cars do, but then owners arw afraid of driving them as an extra mile = more depreciation..

We can’t kid ourselves cars are investments as majority of modern cars aren’t, but there are still some that are an

The “electric car” craze is a phase that WILL die a FAD, once the ‘GLOBAL WARMING’ scam/grift is exposed for the lie/hysterics that it is. The ONLY idiots falling for the global warming LIE are, as usual, the dumb/gullible Western (white) countries. All the other countries are not concerned with the global warming grift and could not care less about all the PC nonsense Western Leftists are WHINING about this week… The Environmental movement is the latest new home of the Communist Party. Once all the dummies wake up to the lies the PAID OFF “Scientists” are scaring school children with, there WILL be a return to COMMON SENSE, and this idiotic Environmental GRIFT will be history.

100% agree with you, the SF90 should have been a NA V12 instead of twin turbo V8 hybrid!! Edit: They'll probably have a V6 hybrid in the F8 replacement.

He did say he’d probably get it wrong

Yeah but in many countries and areas there are smooth roads. I could daily an F50 or Carrera GT or 993 Turbo S, I wouldn't go on roadtrips with it but if you own either of these cars then you have enough money for another luxury car that you can take out on roadtrips. I think both making cars to stiff to pretend they are sporty is bad but also since they started turning sportscars into luxury boats I stopped caring about new cars. We're at a point where horsepower is not that important anymore, so I really couldn't care less about the next million dollar hypercar, the next slightly facelifted Porsche or Ferrari, or the next Bmw and Mercedes entry model cars becoming more boaty, flashy and getting more gadgets. The car you consider "ultimate" is only going to become more wannabe-futuristic, boaty, flashy, and get more electronics in the future. An F50 or Carrera GT is a much more pure car. It doesn't have to be usable but it must be purpose built, the Turbo S models are no longer purpose built that's why they come up with so many special limited editions.

Just what I was thinking! only Americans should mis-pronounce car brand names.

he also just mis-pronounced weissach! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hm0S4CdymaE.html

not only that, but; www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/burton/supercar-businessman-carl-hartley-ferrari-3748323

It's because the market is bigger for the 'cheaper' versions.

@@davem7798 it’s not that. The front engine v12s just don’t have the same demand as the mid engine v8s.

He’s aware sadly 😂

What are you waiting for? 😂

@Amarjit Singh but it’s the least special out of the three. Performance isn’t everything. Plus ur mclaren would break down before you even take it to the track.

@Amarjit Singh it isn’t special when there are so many special editions mclarens coming out. Mclarens depreciate the most compared to ferrari, lambo, or porsche. It’s just a fact.

You dont have to hit the lotto to get it. Work smart and discipline thats all you need bro. Bless

Nope.Too big and clunky...

Noted, thanks for heads up