Disney Is A Disgrace: Desperate Lies In The Marvels Marketing Was Pathetic

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@loganwithlightsabers3051 8 месяцев назад

That trailer that teased Valkyrie showing up was ridiculous cause it ended up being the most pointless shoehorned cameo ever in a comic book movie plus Tessa Thompson looked like she just filmed a MIB International sequel

@mansamusa3708 8 месяцев назад

It was to show they hooked up.

@maximusaurelius9906 8 месяцев назад

This may also have been to set something up for a future movie or show to show why there are Skrulls in New Asgard or to wherever Valkyrie has them transported.

@igneo8005 8 месяцев назад

John, no one mentioned this because all of us who have seen the trailer already knew that they were fooling us.

@MaxxRemKing1 8 месяцев назад

Haha

@randykrus9562 8 месяцев назад

I can't be outraged by a movie I never will watch.

@stanley13579 8 месяцев назад

Two reasons I don't think anyone else has called out Disney for the lies in the marketing: 1: I think most people are wise enough to not fall for ANY marketing for The Marvels which referenced the old (good) movies. 2: People didn't go see the movie, so they never found out if the marketing was telling the truth or not.

@vicmatthews7747 8 месяцев назад

Sounds like Scorsese has a point….

@const96b30 8 месяцев назад

I actually felt lied when I watched Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness. As someone who watched Spider-Man No Way Home and waited for the end credits scene I thought that the Doctor Strange movie would be somehow connected to Spider-Man. "Your desecration of reality will not go unpunished ", this line made me think that Doctor Strange was being held accountable for the events of No Way Home. Yet, that movie was nothing about it. It was barely about Doctor Strange too.

@ugochukwumgbemene3869 8 месяцев назад

I hated Dr Strange and the Multiverse of pandering so much. They made Dr Strange a side character in his own Fucking movie, don't even get me started on Thor Gay Love and Thunder🤦🏿

@ugochukwumgbemene3869 8 месяцев назад

I hated Dr Strange and the Multiverse of pandering so much. They made Dr Strange a side character in his own Fucking movie, don't even get me started on Thor Gay Love and Thunder🤦🏿

@lakedawg2462 8 месяцев назад

Imagine being so out of touch, that you give the metaphorical middle finger to the majority of your audience and then go on to say whoever doesn't like the movie is in the wrong.

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

Dude, when has somebody at Disney or Marvel has said "if you don’t like this movie you’re a terrible person"

@lakedawg2462 8 месяцев назад

@@benriley973 Literally the director from the Marvels

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

@@lakedawg2462 Really? Where? from what interview, what article has she said this please provide me a link, I want to know more of this

@benriley973 8 месяцев назад

@@lakedawg2462 I see you’re subscribed to Geeks & Gamers, see this is what happens when you watch too much of his content it messes your mind up

@lakedawg2462 8 месяцев назад

@@benriley973 I see you are someone who lives in a echo chamber, atleast i listen to all sides of the story and dont do mental gymnastics to avoid what I dont agree with.. "WhAt IntErViEw??? sHoW mE tHe LiNk.. lol im not doing your homework for you, Cope.

@danielbrown6742 8 месяцев назад

This just shows how weak, corrupt, and pathetic Disney has gotten post-endgame.

@DanielTorres-pw8il 8 месяцев назад

They have been like that long before endgame.

@user-qn8ne8lr2k 8 месяцев назад

Never seen John this passionate about a project. You can tell how much of a fanboy he is, and how much he desperately wants disney projects to succeed. Keep fighting the good fight. Hope someone in upper management at Disney sees this.

@BrothaGoodReps 8 месяцев назад

No one is talking about it because no one cares.

@KMReviews 8 месяцев назад

Was anyone tricked? Did anybody think thanos was in this? I never thought that for a second lol

@wlot28 8 месяцев назад

It's not that thanos was literally gonna be in it, it's that he had any connection to this movie

@KMReviews 8 месяцев назад

@@wlot28 he has a connection to every marvel movie.. he made Monica disappear and her mom died while she was gone which was a big aspect to her character in this movie.

@wlot28 8 месяцев назад

@@KMReviews The trailer made it seem like the villain was directly connected to Thanos which she wasn't, therefore it was misleading

@lewisgarrison860 8 месяцев назад

Haven't seen the movie and the trailer absolutely made me think that's what this movie was about till now. The marketing for this needs to be fired!

@4EverKitten 8 месяцев назад

I’m surprised Park Seo-joon was only in it for like 2 min. They made it seem like he had a bigger role but it was more of a cameo

@joedavis291 8 месяцев назад

That's what happens when you make a movie for a none existing audience you have to lie to your customers to try to get them to go buy tickets

@loganboettcher8314 8 месяцев назад

Captain Marvel: "We destroyed Thanos. But it isn't over." Thanos: "My work is inevitable. There will always be more to finish it." *Hard cut to image of Ana de Armas*

@myth3516 8 месяцев назад

Haha is this a reference to the movie “Yesterday”?

@breakfastclub4327 8 месяцев назад

LOL what a load of performative outrage

@LeMelleKH2 8 месяцев назад

They 100% knew what they were doing this. We have criticized Phase 4 and 5 for not really following up on the snap, and the deceptive ad was appealing in that regards. Horrible decision

@queenofnevers6990 8 месяцев назад

Marketing was pathetic for this movie, unfortunately. No matter how to look at it.

@stevenpuente8153 8 месяцев назад

Oh, so Thanos snapped away half the theater audience then?

@salexa171 8 месяцев назад

Marvel just needs to disappear for 5 years.

@lukediffer7367 8 месяцев назад

would not have needed to be that way if they made quality over quantity projects. and did what the audiences actually wanted - MCU - not M-SHE-U.

@m.a.sboxing268 8 месяцев назад

Or you can just not watch the MCU for five years

@salexa171 8 месяцев назад

@@m.a.sboxing268 I think I’m already there chief. Hasn’t been a movie really worth watching in that time.

@thedarkknight2221 8 месяцев назад

I liked the movie but sadly the marketing was terrible! Whoever ran that campaign needs to be fired.

@forcenationlll3 8 месяцев назад

John's rants are priceless 😂 and im here for it, the fact that they deceived us to get people in theaters is a low blow disney !!!

@voinbobar 8 месяцев назад

they should have included ana de armas in the trailer

@txsmiley1275 8 месяцев назад

Disney’s been disrespecting its fan base with the majority of its post-endgame projects. Not all, but most. This is just the most recent example of desperation.

@darthstryk7169 8 месяцев назад

It's ridiculous that with all the villains in the comic books, the myriad of villains, they chose a nobody. Probably so they could gender swap without much notice.

@Queue22 8 месяцев назад

never once thought thanos was gonna be in this or mentioned lol

@DavidGomez-sw5yb 8 месяцев назад

John campea the only one mad bout this 😂

@yourmotherheaux 8 месяцев назад

LMFAOOOO

@wlot28 8 месяцев назад

Yeah false advertising is a dime a dozen these days, surprised this is what he's raging about

@brandonrice1124 8 месяцев назад

84%said they liked it 😂😂🤣What kind of drinks were they serving in those theaters?

@nunouno001 8 месяцев назад

There was some woman who tried to sue Suicide Squad (2016) for false advertisement because Jared Leto wasn’t in it enough. You have a far more legitimate case against the Marvels for this blatant misuse of Thanos and Avengers.

@karagoddess3328 8 месяцев назад

This movie and Disney are a disgrace

@One.Zero.One101 8 месяцев назад

📌The USA has no laws for false advertising. This kind of crap would be illegal in my country. The USA is like the Wild Wild West in marketing, anything goes.

@Relt88 8 месяцев назад

Try asking one of your chinese friends what does “Dar-Benn“ mean. 🤣

@scottboundy1739 8 месяцев назад

Just googled it😂 fitting

@TheTenaciousDog 8 месяцев назад

It’s poop 😂😂😂

@dub88acc 8 месяцев назад

Are people still suing studio's for misleading trailers? This might be a good case

@moviebanta8113 8 месяцев назад

Way to disrespect the few remaining loyal fans.

@SathishKumar-vm1ge 8 месяцев назад

dont worry, nobody fell for it

@EmansReviews 8 месяцев назад

Hilarious. Marvel has a long history of the final trailer being far too spoilery. It's the main reason why I stopped watching their trailers after the first one drops. 😅

@MegaClank1 8 месяцев назад

This feels like another Morbius situation

@Ed_Scott 8 месяцев назад

Who tf thought Thanos had anything to do with the marvels????? Anybody who believed that should stop watching movies forever. There wasn’t any buzz, chat, conversations about Thanos being in or anything to do with the marvels. Thanos has been used as a v/o in 4 post endgame flicks in the commercials. This is a bit of a reach.

@5150Amrit 8 месяцев назад

There were literally articles from portals regarding Carol Denvers referring her defeating Thanos & brand new unused Thanos dialogues in trailers to hype up the movie. Other Phase 4 movies trailers did used the old Endgame footage of Thanos but it never marketed as brand new dialogues & the main hero referring him that weren't in the final cut of movies/shows.

@Ed_Scott 8 месяцев назад

@@5150Amrit I get all of that. But this is another case of people going in with preconceived notions of what they wanted to see. Most people can go IMDB the cast list to see if Brolin is credited with a voice over. Hell, if you don’t go to that site it would be been all over the net that he was back as Thanos. We’re all a little too savvy in the movie game to not get got like that. It sounds like a super duper far reach to blame Disney for someone else’s fan theories not panning out.

@5150Amrit 8 месяцев назад

@@Ed_Scott IMDB doesn't give credit to voice-over cameos more often, take example of Jeremy Renner's voice over cameo in Black Widow movie which was uncredited. People generally watch trailers & when they see Captain Marvel referring destroying Thanos & new unheard dialogues of Thanos himself quoting & hyping his unfinished work, it will create confusion that the movie might have something related to Thanos & that confusion won't be cleared until they see the movie themselves or follow spoilers review of someone else which many people avoid these days.

@Horus070 8 месяцев назад

Did even hear about it … John is overreacting 😂

@Ghost-27X 8 месяцев назад

Desperate Times Desperate Measures for Disney.... SMH

@gridlo 8 месяцев назад

The fact that they CREATED fake Thanos dialogue for the trailer is shocking. And best case scenario? You trick people into seeing the movie and now their pissed at the brand for blatantly lying to them.

@krisztianunpronounceable 8 месяцев назад

Dar-Benn's hammer had more of a connection to Thanos than she did

@nendoakuma7451 8 месяцев назад

LOL, I saw the same trailers and it never occurred to me that he might be in it, but in retrospect that seems like a legitimate interpretation.

@supertalkpodcast4612 8 месяцев назад

Unfortunately it came off as desperate and deceptive!

@conorhagen1124 8 месяцев назад

Literally not a mention of thanos 😂

@danehutchins3845 8 месяцев назад

The Panderverse is dying!

@lukesmale24 8 месяцев назад

You realise that episode was making fun of comments like this too? It wasn't just blasting Disney

@soyjeffe__ 8 месяцев назад

Never had the impression this movie had any thing to do with thanos not even the least. I saw those add campaigns as marketing to hype fans about the continuation of the mcu. We knew thanos had nothing to do with this come on 😂 that’s why no one has mentioned it or commented about it anywhere.

@colveraki 8 месяцев назад

Campea doing his best to convince you are seeing a mountain 🏔️ and not a mole hill

@badger3184 8 месяцев назад

Thanks, John, for speaking up on this issue. I appreciate it.

@reginaldanderson4464 8 месяцев назад

I'm not in the Marketing business, but I'll say this: Lie to your customers, fans who stood by through thick & thin, they'll let you know about it...bad job by Disney all around.

@MelloProto 8 месяцев назад

What happened to Disney? How can they ruin SO many established products? At some point, Universal, Warner Bros, and others are going to get the upper hand here. It's going to happen unless there's a big change soon. This is the first time in a LONG time that I didn't show up for the Thursday night premiere. I've seen all 33 films.

@matthewschneider3391 8 месяцев назад

This one might be an over reaction. Might be.

@ace2tone 8 месяцев назад

I never even paid any mind to the Thanos part, I knew it had nothing to do with the movie. I go into these movies not thinking about the trailers.

@samguapo4573 8 месяцев назад

What if Bob Iger WAS responsible for this?

@ashfaqkhan8570 8 месяцев назад

Liar Liar Box Office on Fire!

@BlackRobin71 8 месяцев назад

But everything did change. The MCU is in free fall and they have to rethink the direction they are heading.

@C.Dat.guyoverthere 8 месяцев назад

Didn't know about this at all since I don't watch trailers for franchises anymore.

@AnitaBlowie420 8 месяцев назад

Don't worry guys, Safe Space and Snow flake will finish Thanos job, right after Disney ruins Dr Doom🦸

@philipcohen7192 8 месяцев назад

Just wreaked of desperation

@antman0719 8 месяцев назад

Nah, the worst is them putting a piece of the mid-credit scene in the final trailer. They were desperate!

@JonnySuite13 8 месяцев назад

Can't go through a full year without a Campea rant!!

@mariodpgodoy 8 месяцев назад

This brings to mind the trailer for 'Predators'. I remember the shot from the trailer where Adrien Brody is targeted by multiple lasers, implying that there were way more than 3 predators in the movie. I ended up liking it, but I still felt cheated.

@maximusaurelius9906 8 месяцев назад

Interesting take. I didn't see it that way. I understood it to mean that Thanos understood that he was not the only one interested in death and devoted to killing on a massive scale. There are many characters in Marvel with similar or identical modus operandi. So while each antagonist may have a different name and costume, at the end of the day their motives all fall within a few categories.

@daniej125 8 месяцев назад

Same. I thought that was what we all thought. I don't know why people thought this was linked to Thanos.

@rupertbath2748 8 месяцев назад

Who would have signed off those trailers? I would have assumed Kevin Feige would have watched it before green lighting it which is that is case then the buck stops with him.

@user-om3xs9up7s 8 месяцев назад

People at the top don't micro manage , they just delegate . Even if he saw the trailer he would be like "wow you guys got Thanos in this one ? I gotta see this !" .

@edbaitedyou6955 8 месяцев назад

He doesn’t get to see the trailers before hand anymore

@rupertbath2748 8 месяцев назад

That doesn't bode well and suggests a studio in freefall without a creative directer overseeing what comes out.@@edbaitedyou6955

@VonMitchPro 8 месяцев назад

When Tony Stark died, so did Marvel...

@renesoto-pintor2916 8 месяцев назад

Screw Tony Stark/RDJ.

@VonMitchPro 8 месяцев назад

@@renesoto-pintor2916 uhm okay....🤦‍♂️

@VonMitchPro 8 месяцев назад

@@davidjames579 So what happened to tony/ironman after Endgame?he still alive right?.....🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️

@VonMitchPro 8 месяцев назад

@@davidjames579 What's key is i said Tony Stark, not Robert Downey Jr😂🤦‍♂️.....

@KMReviews 8 месяцев назад

I honestly don’t remember thanos in any of the marketing lol

@famousthaneus9810 8 месяцев назад

Final trailer had rerolls of Endgame footage & voicework

@KMReviews 8 месяцев назад

@@famousthaneus9810 I guess besides John I haven’t seen anyone upset about this.

@OrionInSpace 8 месяцев назад

As a marketing student who studies this stuff, I fully recognize that The Marvels suffered from a lot of things that prevented it from doing well at the box office. The marketing just happens to be one of them. It sucks the actors could not help with it due to the strikes because outside of the movie like inside of it they all seem to have a good time with each other. That being said, I at this point can't defend that last trailer they put out. It makes no sense, it didn't matter what movie or show this trailer was attached whether it was Falcon and Winter Solider or a movie like Ant Man 3. It makes no sense in context with the movie. It's nostalgia bait and the best way to do nostalgia is if it makes sense. It's a well made trailer, but again it makes no sense. At the same time none of the trailers did a good job to communicate what this story was about even without the actors talking about it. They also seemed to forget this movie had a director because I barely saw Nia DaCosta promote it. It just sucks all around and I hate that this is the movie that it all came to happen to...

@yeahornah7152 8 месяцев назад

Marvel did a very similar thing with Ant-Man this year, framing it as a Ant-Man bargaining with Kang to get time with his daughter back when that has no place in the plot.

@TheDbduece 8 месяцев назад

Disney marketing was set behind the 8-ball the minute Zawe Ashton was named as the baddie. She has zero "baddie" chops...

@plumpychunky 8 месяцев назад

Agreed. I was stunned that they chose her to be the villain.. but I later learned that the actress is Tom Hiddleson's wife lol. No wonder she got the gig. It was probably a clause in his contract for the Loki D+ show.

@pitchking5496 8 месяцев назад

So should Bob Igor stand in front of mirror and fire himself? That late tv spot was a national release, not regional. I’m sure he signed off on it regardless of the unintended outcome.

@Moskarth 8 месяцев назад

No you actually are kinda right about this one… her motivation of Bri basically being the villain in her perspective is a very interesting concept they could have tried to advertise… but this was just a very weird decision by marvel

@cliff5532 8 месяцев назад

I tapped out of the mcu a while ago 😢. Even the tv shows are disappointing 😞

@kwamephillips7392 8 месяцев назад

Again, me and John don’t agree on much but this is one of the few times he is spitting proper real facts here. Disney, like WB, lied to their audience and they should be punished 100%.

@DavidKirkman 8 месяцев назад

This was an actual topic?

@qhorton6743 8 месяцев назад

Give em a break man. The strike just ended lol

@TroyCollectsToys 8 месяцев назад

I think the anger about a trailer is a bit misdirected...

@Gwaly1 8 месяцев назад

The movie financially failed, so thier gimmick didn't work. I think that's why people aren't up and arms about how they lied.

@misterRoyknows 8 месяцев назад

Everybody knows why this is failing ( including Marvel ) and it has nothing to do with Marketing. Where was the Marketing for 5NightsatFreddy and it makes so much more

@MandyZor-El 8 месяцев назад

I was so bored and disinterested watching this movie, and that dancing planet 🤦🏻‍♀️.

@alappara_kelappurom778 7 месяцев назад

When john is criticizing marvel, You know you messed up 😂😂😂

@alfeocayabyab8233 8 месяцев назад

“Malice and intent”! This is criminal now

@vicmatthews7747 8 месяцев назад

You have to have this passion to get these folks to hear it. It’s not toxic. Nothing he’s said is a lie.

@yodieyuh 8 месяцев назад

They could have at least taken from BvS and had the opening scene show Carol wtecking the planet from Dar Benn's pov, and show Dar Benn trying to mitigate the destruction and death. You know, so she has a character.

@notanactualuser 8 месяцев назад

There definitely needs to be questions around what trailers can and can't do. This already happened with game trailers, namely around in the 2000s where trailers had to say what was and wasn't in game footage because otherwise they'd render beautiful animations and make it seem like that level of graphics is what you would get in game. The same needs to be said of movie trailers. That if a trailer does contains X% of footage from the movie, the trailer must be removed from all official social media, third party official media and broadcast before the release of a movie. I had to admit, the claims in those trailers did have me feeling like maybe I should go check out the Marvels, that maybe there was more to the movie than first thought. To find out that is not at all the case is odd and offensive. Makes you wonder as well, was that voice line even recorded by Josh Brolin even or did they use some kind of voice generator purely to fake out audiences further? I guess we won't know for sure but that is really underhanded if they went through that much effort.

@user-hp9tz2uq3g 8 месяцев назад

John, I love your honesty. and the content.

@Aquarat86 8 месяцев назад

Hey it’s okay to like and dislike a movie. Opinions don’t have to align in the world of art. But I agree with John that the marketing stank of desperation.

@lukesmale24 8 месяцев назад

I know how you feel. In Revenge of the Sith trailer they had Alec Guiness in an alternate angle from ANH discussing the Jedi knights...and to my UTTER SHOCK....the scene wasn't in the movie. Disrespect to Sir Alec

@archdogg879 8 месяцев назад

I also hated how they had Nick Fury say "we need Captain Marvel" in the trailer. Guarantee that wasn't actually in the movie.

@kgomotsoSeema 8 месяцев назад

They made it seem like there was another person coming through that bifrost but it was just valkerie which they already showed us her

@AlejandroAlonzo8 8 месяцев назад

It looks like the Variety article was the final green light for everyone to finally speak their mind without fear of being left out of Disney’s good graces.

@benm5970 8 месяцев назад

Yeah why exactly did they feel the need to make Dar-Benn look like a protege of Thanos? I mean that’s just desperate, it’s like they knew Dar-Benn was a garbage villain and so they were just grasping at straws to try and find some way to make her seem more important than she really was

@happybuttersblast8334 8 месяцев назад

a certain franchise was definitely introduced in Doctor Strange 2.... maybe they were talking about deadpool 3 when deadpool and wolverine are part of actually changing the mcu forever.

@BrowniethaDawg 8 месяцев назад

Yesss a John Campea rant I love it. I live for it😂.

@cesrom619 8 месяцев назад

John is back! 🔥🔥

@BitsOfBen 8 месяцев назад

Wow, John is really going to town with this!

@rachelgreenwood7047 8 месяцев назад

So Ana DeArmis isn't in it?? 🤯🤯🤯

@ethanrobinson3288 8 месяцев назад

Dark Helmet: Mega Maid might have been destroyed. But there will always be others to carry on my work.

@HairyMart 8 месяцев назад

An unexpected benefit of avoiding trailers - aside from the deception, showing the finale !

@thebigw1231 8 месяцев назад

Reminds me of what Naughty Dog did with TLOU P2 Trailer when they showed Joel in a place where he really wasnt and it was actually for a different character.

@scottking869 8 месяцев назад

Metal gear 2 was proberly the worst at it haha

@underradar9858 8 месяцев назад

Hey John, with the marvels deceiving their viewers with potential cameos of other characters, I thought there was talk about making companies do away with that type of marketing, like putting out trailers that show scenes that are never apart of the movie. Wasn’t there a suit against companies deceiving their viewers and making movie companies take out or just show a regular trailer that’s actually in the movie? Just a thought after hearing about the stuff the marvels did and the suit that was talked about with the misleading.