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Disney Just Had the Worst Summer Ever! 

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Summer 2023 was one nightmare after another for Disney. I recap an entire season's worth of strikes, poor box office performances, hotel closures and lawsuits.
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@blackmanwithcomputer
@blackmanwithcomputer Год назад
It's good that the guy in charge of all these decisions came back just in time to deal with the consequences. Came back thinking he was the conquering hero, only to turn out to be Disney's biggest villain.
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
He is a total villain. Jesus Christ he's something... The fact that the two CEOs, Iger and Chapek were getting paid 24 and 32 million dollars respectfully while treating talent like ... dispensable objects is just disgusting.
@Ronariverah
@Ronariverah Год назад
Other Bob did this right? but then it takes time to see the result in time for the original Bob to deal with the mess from person HE Picked to replace him. Doh!
@blackmanwithcomputer
@blackmanwithcomputer Год назад
@@Ronariverah Iger was the architect for D+, he's the one that pushed for these acquisitions that put them in debt, he's the one that pushed for remakes and the over reliance on prior IP, he has yet to replace Kennedy, he refuses to NOT place it safe and, yes, he's the one that pushed Chapek in all these these positions which laid the slow demise of the theme parks and resulted in a fission with the creative elements of the company. Iger gets to fuck up and still get paid millions, while denying others liveable wages. So yeah, fuck him.
@xger21
@xger21 Год назад
Some of the issues are definitely have Iger's fingerprints, but Chapek also made his own costly mistakes
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
​@@RonariverahIger? The guy perpetuating the strikes? That guy? 😂
@AlMoSiCe210
@AlMoSiCe210 Год назад
This whole video can be summed by a quote that Dan himself once said, "You're invincible until you're not."
@jjstarrprod
@jjstarrprod Год назад
Ha, that's a good one
@timpage9424
@timpage9424 Год назад
Haunted Mansion should be releasing in theaters some time later this month or early October. What awful planning.
@samanthanorton4538
@samanthanorton4538 Год назад
Moving the date up almost feels to me like they were hoping they'd get the marketing in before the actor strike. I am very curious how they are going to handle The Marvels if the strike isn't over.
@tiffanysandmeier4753
@tiffanysandmeier4753 Год назад
@@samanthanorton4538 it doesn't hurt them too much to delay. There are going to be so many weekends empty soon because the projects aren't finished in time to make the original release date. They can move it back to after the strike ends, so the actors can do promotional appearances, etc. This will hurt theaters, but it may be a boon for smaller films. If theater's are looking for anything to fill the screens, then independent films might get more screen than in the past. Or maybe the big studios will spread out the finished projects to have more space between them.
@egoborder3203
@egoborder3203 Год назад
it should be releasing into a toilet. Soulless and unnecessary and low-quality
@mccallosone4903
@mccallosone4903 Год назад
they did it early so they couldput it on disney+ in in time or halloween
@GusArango
@GusArango Год назад
Plainly stupid.
@LebahG4nteng
@LebahG4nteng Год назад
The fact that The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (yes trilogy, not one movie only) cost less than Indiana Jones and The Dial of Destiny is actually insane to think about it. I wonder why 🤔
@stormtraitor6545
@stormtraitor6545 Год назад
Disney needs to understand that tentpole blockbuster movies can be made for less than $200million.
@DazzaS83
@DazzaS83 Год назад
Inflation, extra cost of CGI, Harrison Ford's salary, Covid adding to costs due to shut downs and start ups. Quite a few reasons.
@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom
@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Год назад
​@@stormtraitor6545 The Creator looks great for $80 million and it's Disney.
@elijaharroyo4846
@elijaharroyo4846 Год назад
They overcompensated, and it clearly failed lmao.
@MichaelWutsch
@MichaelWutsch Год назад
A $200 million movie should be the best movie ever. I think you could do 8-10 spiderverse movies for the same cost
@Shalalacls
@Shalalacls Год назад
As a big fan of Marvel, Star Wars, and an even bigger fan of Disney, this has been oddly satisfying. It's weird that you can love something so much and at the same time be so happy to watch it burn.
@slin2678
@slin2678 Год назад
It's because you love it that it's satisfying when all their bad decisions come to a head. Hopefully, they learn their lesson and can emerge with another Renaissance
@Shelter71
@Shelter71 Год назад
Because they're being poor stewards.
@LexisReadz
@LexisReadz Год назад
THIS!
@dorianr4770
@dorianr4770 11 месяцев назад
same
@tiffanymorrell7583
@tiffanymorrell7583 11 месяцев назад
I so agree I love Disney movies, parks, and stuff but I feel they are only catering to a single crowd that cares less for Disney and how much they can make off of us.
@BillNyeGuy
@BillNyeGuy Год назад
Bob Iger really entering the villain arc after everyone was so certain he was going to come back and save Disney. All the dude was good at was buying massive companies and overexposing them. Remember he was the one who wanted a Star Wars movie a year. He was also the one behind Disney Plus and having every division release stuff on it every year.
@garrettcarter5622
@garrettcarter5622 Год назад
People still have fond memories of Eisner because he's brave enough to takes his lumps, I'm not sure if that's gonna be the case with Iger. He seems to proud of himself to admit his mistakes.
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm 11 месяцев назад
​@@ChienaAvtzon I'll say that l Marvel acquisition and the development of the MCU up until Endgame was one of the most brilliant decisions in the entertainment industry in history. Lucas Films acquisition COULD have been just as profitable, if it wouldn't have been so badly mismanaged, specially with the dumpster fire that were TLJ and TRotS. Fox... that was just stupid, there is not way around it. The real problem is that they got greedy and thought they were to big to fail: the parks were catering to rich people... only in price, because the experience, the amenities, the atractions, the food, the services etc, were ok, but definitely not worth the praise, specially when go to Europe started to be cheaper than going to Disney. And there is not enough rich people, lets be real The MCU made the same mistakes as Marvel comics: they over extended themselves, put out too many low quality series in a short time, to the point it stopped to be entertainment and became a shore.
@InsertCleverNameHere0
@InsertCleverNameHere0 11 месяцев назад
The nice thing is that, when Dan makes a video like this, its not mindless shouting about Disney being "woke" or whatever, it's actual reporting and analysis. Keep up the good work, Dan.
@DanMurrellMovies
@DanMurrellMovies 11 месяцев назад
5x the work, 1/5 the audience!
@FortKnoxMovies
@FortKnoxMovies 11 месяцев назад
@@DanMurrellMovies Quality over quantity Dan! I know some industry insiders (writers mostly) who reference your videos! People in the know recognize your hard work!
@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419
@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419 11 месяцев назад
If you want your points to be respected, and your work valued, put out a measured and balanced video, screaming about woke is clickbait for the intellectually brain dead.
@One.Zero.One101
@One.Zero.One101 11 месяцев назад
@@DanMurrellMoviesRage-bait is a path to the dark side. You have a loyal community because of your quality content.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob Год назад
Disney's issues seem so obvious: insanely over-inflated budgets, poor release dates, a lack of creativity and quality control and too much content....and also sheer greed from it's CEOs and execs.
@christscrackers647
@christscrackers647 11 месяцев назад
Bob Iger's philosophy regarding buying every single company he could in order to make more money is the prime example of "Quantity can truly never defeat Quality". He bought way too much of several good things, and now those good things have turned against him and are either being used against him, or being taken away from him. That's what happens when you want to take everything from the world like a spoiled child.
@ellicel
@ellicel Год назад
The Disney corporation definitely deserves to struggle for the way they treat their talent, employees, VFX artists, and even competitors. Unfortunately, I think the top echelon will continue raking in the millions and all this bad news will be the excuse they'll use to be even more evil to those they were already shortchanging.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 11 месяцев назад
You forgot to add unwoke viewers and buyers of their tourist crap.
@One.Zero.One101
@One.Zero.One101 11 месяцев назад
Yeah the sad thing is the executives won’t feel the effects of this meltdown. They will still give themselves multi-million dollar bonuses. This happened before when bank executives gave themselves bonuses after the 2008 recession.
@baltimorefilmmaker
@baltimorefilmmaker 11 месяцев назад
These execs need to cut their pay, not make us pay increased costs.
@Misfitstein
@Misfitstein Год назад
I'm so glad that the Star Wars Hotel is closing. I was always wanted to go but omg those prices are just insanely stupid. They deserve this.
@guydammit3287
@guydammit3287 11 месяцев назад
Pay all that money and it didn't even have original fan favorite characters. It was all about the Disney movies. (Yeah man. "WHO WANTS TO BE POE,GUYS!! COME ON! IT'LL BE FUN!!"😂)
@ChibiShi
@ChibiShi 11 месяцев назад
I went, and honestly, it was a blast and a half. But I'm also a big fan of cosplay and improv, so it was right up my alley. They probably would've been better off for long term viability of the concept if they made it a regular hotel most of the time, and just had the performance theater concept have a couple of "sailings" a month with an evolving story so people had a reason to go back. But I'm not sure how well it'd work as a regular hotel, tbh. When immersed in universe where you have to take a "shuttle" wherever you get on or off, not having a pool or access to an outdoor space or windows (there are "windows" that are viewports into space and are pretty awedome tbh) or a fancy entrance/parking lot (it felt very much like a cruise terminal or airport parking) makes sense. But for a hotel where you can just walk out and get in your car wherever you want, maybe not so much.
@ChibiShi
@ChibiShi 11 месяцев назад
Most of the characters involved in the Starcruiser were entirely original to the Starcruiser. There were only 2 characters from the movies you could interact with (Rey and Chewie) and Kylo Ren makes an appearance for a fight scene with Rey, and that was it as far as physically there.
@Janootz
@Janootz Год назад
I saw problems coming for The Little Mermaid and Elemental coming from a mile away. Without significantly strong word of mouth, audiences are comfortable waiting for Disney's movies to hit streaming. They're a victim of Disney+'s success, and they're still losing billions on it
@damonlam9145
@damonlam9145 Год назад
The Live Action Little Mermaid's word of mouth felt more like it hindered its growth in the long run.
@FromDaShaolinSlums
@FromDaShaolinSlums Год назад
I'm sure adults weren't gonna watch TLM and just have their toddlers watch it when it drops on D+
@Janootz
@Janootz Год назад
@@FromDaShaolinSlums I'm not sure that's really the case. The target audience for these live action remakes aren't kids but their millennial parents who have nostalgia for the original movie and will drag their kids to the movies so they can see it. There's no need to pay for those extra tickets for kids who will be bored by the movie if mom and dad can now just watch the movie at their own leisure on a night in.
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm
@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm 11 месяцев назад
They are also victims of the low salaries they want to pay. Less people wants to go to the theaters because it is too expensive. Unless it is something truly special, there is not reason to drop over 40 dolars to see a bad movie
@CalebSpears1
@CalebSpears1 11 месяцев назад
I’m shocked someone green lighted that scuttlebut song, it is so far below the Disney bar for music I was in shock. It sounded like a poorly written parody
@motherplayer
@motherplayer Год назад
It's one thing to be unsuccessful with new ideas or old/obscure properties. It's another thing to be playing with so many safe bets and having none of them pan out.
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
Their safe bets are lackluster. They never truly are "woke" (Except Black Panther), and they have a huge following of alt right fanatics and bullies. Who wants to be a fan of this brand? Nobody with money... just MAGA internet bots. Those guys will go buy guns with their money anyway. They have catered to and enabled those people, and they sank the brand. Congrats 👏🎉 Now WB and Paramount are laughing in Barbie and Oppenheimer money.
@egoborder3203
@egoborder3203 Год назад
they turned them into unsafe bets because no one there undestands the properties they're dealing with and hired the complete wrong people to develop them. It's like taking a bet between the Packers and a junior high football team but before the game you break the legs of all the Packers
@jessrl8025
@jessrl8025 Год назад
About 5 years ago, I read James B. Stewart's Disney War (a great read if you are interested in Disney history), and the impression I got after reading was Bob Iger was nothing more than a sad copy of Michael Eisner. Everything that man has done since I've read that book has not changed my mind. Iger has ripped off Eisner's ideas without really understanding why those ideas worked for Eisner at that time. Iger has yet to do anything but fail his way to the top, and now he is making many of the same mistakes Eisner made that ended up ousting him as the CEO. I feel for the Disney employees whose jobs are on the line because these massive corporations keep promoting their buddies.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Год назад
Why did Iger install Cheap-pack into CEO role in the first place?
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob Год назад
The thing is Iger made the studio billions upon billions and Eisner didn't. I feel like Iger did a good job up until the point where he left and tanked the company with his terrible exit strategy.
@ericepperson8409
@ericepperson8409 11 месяцев назад
Eisner had a great start at Disney expanding the Parks and overseeing their animated Renaissance, but he was also responsible for the mediocre box office performance of the early 2000s and disputes with Pixar and the executives that would eventually become Dreamworks.
@Arobert1673
@Arobert1673 11 месяцев назад
@@ericepperson8409 I agree, I think Eisner was C-tier overall.
@Arobert1673
@Arobert1673 11 месяцев назад
His work on expanding the parks internationally is still paying off for them. On the film side though, just so many misses. While they have a solid amount of cult-classic type support, he oversaw nearly a decade straight (1995-2005) of huge commercial failures. Iger on the other hand is arguably on the Mount Rushmore of media executives. The insane amounts of money that Disney raked in from franchises he oversaw is unmatched in media history. Walt himself is the Steve Jobs type, built the foundation, huge personality that is generally well respected. However, it was Tim Cook at apple and Iger at Disney that truly built their respective empires.
@christianogden2825
@christianogden2825 Год назад
After 10 years of this studio trying to act like the evil empire and buy all of Hollywood, I think I speak for everyone on the planet when I say “Disney, no one feels bad for you. In fact, watching you fall as flat on your face as you have has been ungodly cathartic.”
@michaelnally2841
@michaelnally2841 Год назад
Only thing that sucks about this is the people at Pixar suffering as well. Especially since they probably suffered the most throughout the pandemic and the one movie s they had afterwards were mostly flops. I’m happy elemental has made a bit of a 180. But I hope they can recover
@ivanvoronov3871
@ivanvoronov3871 Год назад
​@@michaelnally2841well they haven't made a good film since encanto or even arguably coco
@michaelnally2841
@michaelnally2841 Год назад
@@ivanvoronov3871 Pixar didn’t make Encanto that was Disney’s animation studio. Pixar released soul, Luca, and Turning red which all of them I have enjoyed and I wish I got to see soul and turning red in theaters but hey it wasn’t meant to be. And hey say what you will about the quality of some at least they were Original films unlike Disney’s live action division
@ivanvoronov3871
@ivanvoronov3871 Год назад
@@michaelnally2841 yes I forgot about encanto. I really didn't like turning red. I Luca is underrated but know one went to see it. Soul I wish was more like ratatouille about a man and his love for Jazz based in the real world without any of the supernatural crap. Still I think the last truly great film they made is coco
@michaelnally2841
@michaelnally2841 Год назад
@@ivanvoronov3871 i personally disagree for what Soul is I thought it was great especially it’s message of “don’t spend your entire life solely focused (no pun intended) chasing your dreams”. Spend a little time to smell the flowers, enjoy a slice of pizza, and enjoy the company of people you may not know as well as you think. That spoke to me especially because I had just graduated from college at that point and had recently gotten a job in my field and I even had that “so what now” moment in the movie. Before lightyear there wasn’t a real Pixar film I untterly disliked or thought was terrible besides cars 2. So if a Pixar film comes out I’ll still give it a chance but I won’t say it’s terrible because it’s not “great” because imo even a mid tier Pixar film is still better than a lot of the schlock Hollywood produces.
@BDWANNEMACHER
@BDWANNEMACHER Год назад
I'm a bit worried that the lessons that the studios are going to learn from this is that they need to diversify their studios into other countries so they can ignore unions easier.
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
Hope that other countries have their workers unionize too! 😊
@ralfrudi3963
@ralfrudi3963 Год назад
This might be a good idea in general, because the quality of their movies was low. All their bad decisions and bad PR would be of little importance if their movies were successful. Especially the writing has been poor for a while now. Their only successful summer movie was written by Gun, who they tried to cancel and who is also about to spearhead their competitor. Either they need to change the process of choosing their writers, or they need to find writers who are less influenced by Hollywood in general. This summer has shown that people are willing to go to the cinema if you can offer them a movie with an unique idea, but won't for you run-of-the-mill Hollywood movie.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Год назад
@@samf.s.7731Korea’s and India’s entertainment industries are mostly unionized already, same with France too. The American studios will have to look towards countries with lost worker rights however.
@brianng8350
@brianng8350 11 месяцев назад
Sadly, Netflix has good ground on this. They got Korean and Indian movies and TV shows…
@Nomadic813
@Nomadic813 11 месяцев назад
Not as simple as that. Writers, actors, and VFX are all specialized skills that depend on decades of tradition and industry to develop. You can't just go to a country with no union and expect them to be able to produce world class VFX artists, studios, or even access to tech which is often proprietary to individual studios out of thin air.
@stevenrosenhaus4571
@stevenrosenhaus4571 Год назад
I got your Columbo reference, Dan. 😊
@soerenbode
@soerenbode Год назад
Here in Germany Disney is aggresivelly advertising to sign up for Disney+. Offering 6 EUR for three months (so 2 EUR / month). Now I understand.
@punnia123
@punnia123 11 месяцев назад
Bob Iger is like the dog calmly sitting in the room on fire with the tagline "this is fine"
@renskedunnewold1995
@renskedunnewold1995 Год назад
I had forgotten or not heard about half of these things. Put together like this, it's astonishing how many bad decisions one company can make in such a short timespan
@briarrose8154
@briarrose8154 Год назад
Listening to all this back to back to back to back really shoves Home how absolutely catastrophic some of these high-level decisions have been over the past couple of years and it’s just finally now all hitting at the same time
@Sasu123456789x1
@Sasu123456789x1 11 месяцев назад
Exactly
@ChrisEdwards7910
@ChrisEdwards7910 Год назад
The CNBC article the other day was illuminating. Most of these issues are on Iger, who never really stepped away.
@vincentwood3450
@vincentwood3450 Год назад
I could listen to how much money Disney is losing all day. Music to my ears
@RB01.10
@RB01.10 11 месяцев назад
Oh they’re not even close to going bankrupt. Their current net worth is over $140 billion
@Alejandroigarabide
@Alejandroigarabide 11 месяцев назад
No clickbait, no weird thumbnails, no exagerations, just pure objective numbers. That's true journalism, and that's why we love your channel, Dan. EDIT: A Columbo reference?????
@dorianr4770
@dorianr4770 11 месяцев назад
I thought it was Monk, oh but that's "here's the thing..."
@Alejandroigarabide
@Alejandroigarabide 11 месяцев назад
@@dorianr4770 "Here's what happened"
@TheBobbyBrown22
@TheBobbyBrown22 Год назад
In the long run- I think Disney is too big to fail with valuable IP and tons of physical assets in the parks division. That said it’s wild to see the string of bad luck/decisions made this past year. I’ll be very curious to see their end of year financial statement and how all these events impact the bottom line.
@tiffanysandmeier4753
@tiffanysandmeier4753 Год назад
Some of the decisions aren't even from the last year. We are seeing things that started years ago.
@user-nw7cf4yg7d
@user-nw7cf4yg7d Год назад
No company is "So big" that they can't fail. Every one has to pay the price. They r burning from everywhere. It's just a matter of time unless they will change.
@Arobert1673
@Arobert1673 Год назад
As long as they don’t panic sell rights to these valuable properties, they are definitely in great position.
@tiffanysandmeier4753
@tiffanysandmeier4753 Год назад
I think someone commented elsewhere that Disney has had boom and bust cycles many times in its history. We just might be seeing a bust. We never know the future, but as long as they don't do many majorly stupid things, they will still be around for years to come. And it would take many bad decisions to bring them down. They are trying to course correct currently, but we will see how it goes.
@JohnSmith-tl8pq
@JohnSmith-tl8pq Год назад
@@tiffanysandmeier4753 The Disney brand may still exist in the future, the question is will Disney remain its own independent company or be gobbled up by a massive multinational corporation?
@acejumper1681
@acejumper1681 Год назад
The past few years have definitely been rough for Disney to say the least. I am predicting that the SAGAFTRA strike might result in a similar outcome as the strike that the Newsies musical was based off of, because of how the Pulitzer severely underestimated how important the newsboys were to the success of newspaper sales, similar to how movie studio executives such as Bob Iger are underestimating how important writers and actors are to their businesses as well.
@chadchadly3564
@chadchadly3564 Год назад
You won’t ever see John Campea make a video like this
@FameyFamous
@FameyFamous Год назад
It’s hard to believe that the producers have decided to let the strikes keep going. How much would it cost them to pay the workers what they are demanding?
@123Yellowberry123
@123Yellowberry123 Год назад
Agreed, but based on Dan’s other videos, it looks like there are other things at play with the strikes, like the ability to use AI. Writers and actors seem to want AI banned while the producers are reluctant to give into that request.
@twincast2005
@twincast2005 Год назад
It would cost them less than 2% of their profits. And for what it's worth, there has been ample movement on this regular wage negotiations front. What the conglomerates aren't budging on are the use of AI and related issues, obviously salivating over the prospect of cutting down production expenses for literally all types of creatives down to near-zero in the near future.
@joneau261
@joneau261 Год назад
There’s also belief that Netflix is the big player dragging out the strikes. As they’re the one dedicated specifically to streaming, they have the most to lose accepting the deals.
@FameyFamous
@FameyFamous Год назад
@@joneau261 Is the union insisting on a deal with all or none of the major studios? If Disney and the unions want to make a deal and leave Netflix behind, I bet they can do it.
@ChicCanyon
@ChicCanyon Год назад
Hmm, release films and lose money or pay people more so you can get back to releasing films that lose money...difficult choice
@wizzzer1337
@wizzzer1337 11 месяцев назад
I wonder though, how much Disney+ affected their box office, I know personally people at my workplace who decided to skip Little Mermaid simply because they knew they would see it on Disney+.
@ianlister7333
@ianlister7333 Год назад
Its so hard to "support" any big company these days, but the strikes have made it all but impossible for me to do so.
@josefsilvia5360
@josefsilvia5360 Год назад
I think my favorite thing this summer was when Haunted Mansion flopped, because who decided to release a Halloween movie in summer? I feel like Walt's ghost is laughing at the company he once loved.
@MrRapmaster19
@MrRapmaster19 Год назад
Buying 21st Century Fox is going to go down as debatably the worst corporate purchase decisions in entertainment history. Taking on all that debt to buy Fox has led to most of these problems they face now, plus the overinvestment in Disney+
@garrettcarter5622
@garrettcarter5622 Год назад
The biggest reason why Disney bought Fox was so they could finally use Fantastic Four and X-Men in the MCU. So it's really funny that they haven't even been able to get to that point yet in all this time.
@egoborder3203
@egoborder3203 Год назад
it wasn't the purchase, it was the lack of any creative vision for what they purchased. It's because there isn't anyone in a leadership position anywhere at Disney who understands what fans want. Iger bought Fox the way people collect coins: they've been doing it for years, so why stop now? I doubt he could even articulate what the X-Men are
@Spoogebro
@Spoogebro 11 месяцев назад
I don’t understand why these companies rushed to make streaming services when they could have made way more money leasing ip out to other services. Disney already had majority shares of Hulu. Why make another service when you already have a profitable one?
@MrRapmaster19
@MrRapmaster19 11 месяцев назад
@@Spoogebro it's very stupid, so many of these companies were so obsessed with whether they could they never stopped to think if they should. Now, they're pretty much reverting to the cable model with ads again except a far worse customer experience due to how disjointed it all is. Disney needs to first merge D+ with Hulu and ESPN+ to create a unified service, then make the whole watching process easier.
@ianwestc
@ianwestc 11 месяцев назад
@@Spoogebro There is something to be said with your name being a "brand." IE, everything on Disney+ should be something you think you can safely park your 10-year-old in front of. That's the Disney brand. That's why Disney released a number of movies under the Touchstone label, because they were inherently more adult and they didn't want the Disney name to change. Hulu fulfills the same role here -- releasing stuff that they own but they don't want to call it Disney.
@freemantle85
@freemantle85 11 месяцев назад
The one thing that was missing in the video was how Disney treated physical media. They have ended physical media releases in Australia and tried to do it quietly. It has been seen as a testing ground to see how it would work in a fairly small market before doing a similar move in North America and Europe. Physical media collectors were horrified when they thought Disney was going to release a discless steelbook of WandaVision. Now they are releasing some of the Disney+ shows on physical media. I think Disney+ has ruined Disney since it isn't the money maker that it thought it was going to be. Disney, along with the other studios thought the streaming boom was going to continue because of Covid and they ended up shooting themselves in the foot since audiences are now thinking why bother going to the cinema when the film could be released on Disney+ in a few weeks or months. Studios pushed for reducing the theatrical window and they are paying the price. I am sickened by the idea of content purges since it's treating films and TV shows as disposable. I know it's wishful thinking but I feel that if a company pulls contact off for tax reason then their rights to film or show should be forfeited.
@RB01.10
@RB01.10 11 месяцев назад
Less people are buying DVDs, Blu Ray, CDs, etc anymore though. Best Buy already discontinued CDs in early 2018, and Netflix will no longer ship DVDs in the mail by this months end.
@ianwestc
@ianwestc 11 месяцев назад
Look, it's consumers that have ended physical media, not the media companies. The media companies would love to sell you a blue-ray for $20-$30 a pop, that's a hell of a lot more than they get through streaming services. But consumers decided they were over it.
@Phelie315
@Phelie315 Год назад
Seeing it all laid out like this in a row sure is something...
@jtp22090
@jtp22090 Год назад
The heads at Disney seem to be very bad with money and they do not seem to know the audiences they are aiming for when they green light a project. Why the hell would spend 300 million on indiana jones when audiences hated the 4th movie and were very skeptical about seeing another film in the franchise. They seem to greenlight all these tv shows and movies that no one was asking for, then sit there and wonder why no one paid to see it.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus Год назад
But dude the previous four movies were big hits! And by that logic Disney shouldn’t have spent so much money on Star Wars movies because people hated the prequels! And I mean, people used to wonder who was asking for a sequel to Avatar but that was still a monster hit. Sometimes you just never know.
@Qwazin
@Qwazin Год назад
As a famous rebel once said to the leader of an evil empire: "Your overconfidence is your weakness".
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
Or maybe, just maybe, they're an evil corporation because they're run by bad people 😂 The same people actually don't care for the company or the brand, and especially not the workers
@TrekBeatTK
@TrekBeatTK Год назад
Your faith in your [union] friends is yours!
@terrybradford3727
@terrybradford3727 Год назад
I'm over 50.... I know Columbo, lol. Love all the research and reporting you do. Thank you.
@WolfRamAndHart
@WolfRamAndHart Год назад
Dan, based on his "Timeline" Closing arguments, would have made an excellent attorney. Seriously, when you have a day-by-day, step by step, recollection, it can be extremely helpful for both organization and objectivity. (I suppose those matches at Screen Junkies also helped in his Moot Court abilities.)
@ShaneyBright
@ShaneyBright Год назад
Always thoughtful and concise reporting, Dan. I clicked on the video immediately.
@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl
@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl Год назад
Same
@Pythagoras_was_right
@Pythagoras_was_right Год назад
Same. I heard the same things on other channels, but regretted clicking them: they were all raging anti-woke polemics. Dan brings sanity.
@jimmyboy7817
@jimmyboy7817 Год назад
Better writers and restrained budgets would help. And why not take inspiration from some of the gems of the past like Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, The Parent Trap and Freaky Friday where some family fun could make a good original movie. Also, the Parent Trap and Freaky Friday are examples of remakes done right. They were appropriately updated in style for modern audiences while still remaining faithful to the original story.
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
Bob should take a pay cut to pay the writers. Just saying!
@heatheraggus7501
@heatheraggus7501 Год назад
I actually rewatched HiStK last night with my parents (I'm almost 43) and it holds up!
@dorianr4770
@dorianr4770 11 месяцев назад
agreed!
@MrEffectfilms
@MrEffectfilms 11 месяцев назад
And also both happen to Star Lindsey Lohan, not saying that's connected but it's a strange coincidence at least.
@lamecasuelas2
@lamecasuelas2 11 месяцев назад
It also hielps when you have a god tier performance by Jamie Lee Curtis
@punxsydawn
@punxsydawn Год назад
I actually think the roleplaying of the star wars hotel sounds super fun. For substantially less money. I love immersive experiences like that.
@rubydown3329
@rubydown3329 Год назад
Right!! There's an allegedly haunted hotel in a tiny town I've been to, that does murder mystery weekends and gets local businesses involved. They get the local theater troupe involved to play all the characters and it's SO FUN. I'm not really a Star wars fan, but I totally would have done an immersive experience thing like that, if it wasn't so **** expensive
@tiffanymorrell7583
@tiffanymorrell7583 11 месяцев назад
I agree it was the price that sank it. If it was more like $100 it would have been booked all the time.
@chowt002
@chowt002 11 месяцев назад
I just have no idea why they released Haunted Mansion in the summer, in the middle of Barbie and Oppenheimer. Around haloween, I would've absolutely been up to going to see it with some friends, but in the summer people just don't care about the concept enough to go. Only thing I can take from it is they just have no belief or interest in theatrical releases, so they got it out now so they can put it on plus in time for Halloween
@stormtraitor6545
@stormtraitor6545 Год назад
Disney has had the worst summer ever! Me: “Oh no! (long pause) Anyway…”
@DazzaS83
@DazzaS83 Год назад
Is that you, Jezza?
@stormtraitor6545
@stormtraitor6545 Год назад
@@DazzaS83 If you’re May, then yes!
@KeithBelow
@KeithBelow Год назад
If Barbie never released or wasn’t as good as it was, I would say David Zaslav and Warner Discovery would be up there as worst summer.
@timothymarr2267
@timothymarr2267 Год назад
Agreed, but then they had a unicorn
@jjstarrprod
@jjstarrprod Год назад
@@timothymarr2267 Yeah, but for one Barbie, they had a Shazam 2, a Flash, and a Blue Beetle, all 3 of them bombing hard, on top of Dune 2 being reported to next year, and Zaslav being one of the most reviled figureheads of all of Hollywood now, so I'd say they're having quite a nightmarish year so far too.
@MoramothHauntz
@MoramothHauntz Год назад
They're probably miffed the pissed off Nolan
@WolfRamAndHart
@WolfRamAndHart Год назад
@@MoramothHauntz Karma, mate.
@victornewmanforever
@victornewmanforever Год назад
Fortunately, there is the acclaimed Snow White reboot coming up. 😏
@cinne2135
@cinne2135 11 месяцев назад
Is that sarcasm? Genuine question. The remakes are a huge part of the problem imho.
@ZUIKMedia
@ZUIKMedia 11 месяцев назад
​@@cinne2135yes the emoji he used definitely implied sarcasm
@robinkomin
@robinkomin 11 месяцев назад
It hurts man. They make joyous stuff, but in the end it's just another company at the top level. I just know that there are passionate people working there. Elemental had heart, so did Haunted Mansion. Still have my hopes up for Wish. Just sad to see that so many projects got absorbed by the Disney+ machine.
@EmeraldUltima713
@EmeraldUltima713 11 месяцев назад
What a fantastic way to celebrate 100 years of the Walt Disney Company! God, what a disaster.
@Maitch3000
@Maitch3000 Год назад
I remember in the 90's, Disney would dilute their brand by making cheap direct to video sequels to animated classics. This was stopped by John Lasseter when they bought Pixar and made him head of both. Now they are doing the same. Diluting all their brands, by making rushed sequels or remakes and doing it in such a tempo that people can't keep up and remain excited. This time however, the projects are not cheap. They can't keep this up. Iger needs to go and a new course should be set. Iger is all about the rushed sequels, even in his firm term as CEO of Disney.
@luismedrano6680
@luismedrano6680 11 месяцев назад
And yet bob iger reign at disney from 2005 to 2019 is where the disney media empire reached its peak quality and commercial outlook. Just track its stock price during bob bob Iger's reign til now. Iger has been correctly chapek mistake in prioritizing subscription numbers, price gauging theme park tickets offset their losses due to the pandemic
@Maitch3000
@Maitch3000 11 месяцев назад
@@luismedrano6680 Iger is all about fast tracking sequels and reboots. He did that in his first term and carries on doing it now. The difference is now that people are tired of the franchises.
@Trumani
@Trumani Год назад
This analysis is next level. You rock!
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
Dan is the man! 😊
@McNaireXstream
@McNaireXstream Год назад
Bob Iger impressionist : "eh hem, well, um, you didn't have to like put it all together like this..."
@Welles009
@Welles009 11 месяцев назад
Don't worry, Dan. Not only do I remember Columbo, I have the DVD box set.
@omrmajeed
@omrmajeed Год назад
I welcome Disney being knocked down a peg or two and competitiveness brought back into the industry.
@Shelter71
@Shelter71 Год назад
Excellent video and if this were a film it would be tempting to watch it unfold through my fingers while cringing in my seat. That things would ultimately blow up was apparent when they became a monopoly and weren't checked. This over the course of several months is just wild, and I feel bad for all of the creatives caught in this. I'd completely forgotten about the Hulu issue and actually laughed out loud when you Columbo'd into the topic because holy cow. What a ride.
@shiftymcgee9359
@shiftymcgee9359 Год назад
Wonder how much Disney’s bad summer has on the Disney+ price increase notification I just received.
@theitaIianstallion
@theitaIianstallion 11 месяцев назад
Dan, glad you include stuff like financials bc that stuff factors into entertainment decisions in the end regardless if fans like it or not
@CountOrlok22
@CountOrlok22 Год назад
That's without even getting into numerous MCU delays and controversies/legal problems surrounding Jonathan Majors and Tenoch Huerta Meija.
@michaelrichardi6047
@michaelrichardi6047 Год назад
Universal...sony...paramount sipping tea watching Disney and WB be such massive messes
@Shak2k11
@Shak2k11 11 месяцев назад
Good, I'm glad the reception and box office reflects their bad decisions and quality. They deserve nothing less if not worse
@DanielSolis
@DanielSolis Год назад
21:37 You'd be surprised how much low key meme buzz Colombo has.
@Tomhyde098
@Tomhyde098 Год назад
Disney has become so sanitized and clean cut and safe that the movies are all just boring and predictable.
@frogeater8659
@frogeater8659 Год назад
Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 wasn’t that though.
@ricobuttonpusher7061
@ricobuttonpusher7061 Год назад
Yup. Disney wants to appeal to a global audience
@MuhammadAhmad-oj6mf
@MuhammadAhmad-oj6mf Год назад
Frankly, they just don't want to loose their conservative audience.
@chadchadly3564
@chadchadly3564 Год назад
@@MuhammadAhmad-oj6mfthey don’t want to lose their conservative audience? Uhh buddy, have you been paying attention to anything lately? They’ve lost that audience and made it really clear they don’t care 😂
@TrekBeatTK
@TrekBeatTK Год назад
Except where it comes to forcing antiracism and LGBTQ stuff into everything, which is also costing them subscribers. Even their frigging preschool Star Wars show has lesbian moms in it. At the very least they could include content warnings for those concerned about it same as they do for swearing or smoking.
@seankale5116
@seankale5116 Год назад
thank you for making this video. as to the VFX CGI artist, im a 3D artist but I work in video games and ive been asked why i never went into film. Well, im from L.A and i grew up seeing how poorly people in the industry are treated and worked and paid. like why on earth would i want to do that? work my ass off for ungodly hours, to be underpaid and work on something for months to have it in a film or TV show for 7 seconds. Nah, im good. ( but also dont get me wrong, Games has issues too ).
@CalebSpears1
@CalebSpears1 11 месяцев назад
It’s nice to get info without being shouted at😂 thank you! Hope your channel grows quickly 🙌🏼
@goatcheese4me
@goatcheese4me Год назад
I remember a friend of mine telling me after Disney bought Star Wars that this wasn't a good thing. I said it was good because they are taking the keys away from the 90 year old driver that keeps hitting mailboxes. His point was Disney would milk the crap out of the franchise to the point that Star Wars would become watered down, less appealing, would lose its luster, etc. Turns out we were both right.
@MisterAlex86
@MisterAlex86 Год назад
Genuine question: are these Bob Iger / Disney failures reaching the depths required to feature in business college? I cant imagine how a company could be run more poorly?
@Spoogebro
@Spoogebro 11 месяцев назад
Yeah in like 10 years
@jasonnelson5251
@jasonnelson5251 11 месяцев назад
On the Star Wars hotel, you omitted that it's theme wasn't based on the original trilogy characters/locales
@tambarskelfir
@tambarskelfir Год назад
Turns out Bob Iger is the core problem with Disney. Was that not always obvious?
@gantz0949
@gantz0949 11 месяцев назад
Not at all. Everyone was hating Chapek and thought Iger was the savior
@Spoogebro
@Spoogebro 11 месяцев назад
@@gantz0949stupid people maybe
@user-gx7vx4rf3n
@user-gx7vx4rf3n Год назад
I haven't gone through all the comments, so someone has probably mentioned this already... The most significant issue facing Disney, and ultimately the whole steaming industry, is the lawsuit against them regarding over-evaluation of Disney+. I expect to see more investor lawsuits against the other media companies regarding this same issue. (The only big ones that may be safe are Sony, Amazon and Apple... I fully expect Netflix to eventually get swallowed up in a lawsuit regarding future growth as well.)
@ianwestc
@ianwestc 11 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if the lawsuit will go anywhere because they didn't really promise huge Disney+ profits. Profits were even entirely beside the point. All the streaming companies were doing the same thing -- low prices, expensive content, try to get as many subscriber numbers, and it's for one reason: Wall Street didn't care about streaming company profits. That's right, for this one, strange, short period of time, profit was no longer king, and profit for this specific sector was not rewarded with increased stock prices, nor was lack of profit punished through low stock prices. We might think there was this great plan, and it seems like there SHOULD have been a great plan on the part of these millionaire CEOs of giant companies, but they looked at what Netflix was doing, saw that no one cared Netflix wasn't giving shareholders its high profits, and it was basically getting away with it. So they said "huh, I guess that's what it takes to make a successful streaming company. We're just going to do that until it doesn't work anymore." That's it. That was the plan. There was no coherent route to profitability, just a vague hope that once Wall Street started to care about profit again and they had to make cuts, that their subscribers would just stick with the service and keep paying, probably with a higher per-monthly fee.
@gjchawks17
@gjchawks17 Год назад
In terms of worse summer for a corporation, BP's 2010 summer was pretty bad. Stock went down 51%, lost $105B
@mat3714
@mat3714 Год назад
You only loose money if you sell. Stock going down doesn't mean you loose money.
@gjchawks17
@gjchawks17 Год назад
@@mat3714 The company lost billions in value/reputation and spent hundreds of millions for cleaning up their oil spill. I'm fairly certain it was a bad summer for them
@mat3714
@mat3714 Год назад
@@gjchawks17 Absolutely but I'm simply pointing out that shares losing value doesn't equal hard cash losses. Stocks goes up and down but your checking account doesn't move. They didn't lose a 105b of real money, they've momentarily loss trading value and it went back up.
@Mallus01
@Mallus01 11 месяцев назад
This should be a wake up call for Disney
@branagain
@branagain Год назад
I’ve only seen one movie this summer and it’s Indiana Jones. Disney should thank me.
@egoborder3203
@egoborder3203 Год назад
and you should induce vomiting
@lukesmale24
@lukesmale24 Год назад
Me too. Indy was the only thing I cared about seeing. I liked it...sue me
@eglantinepapeau1582
@eglantinepapeau1582 Год назад
17:57 this here is why Iger hired Chapek . For him to take the fall for this .
@TheJediKenneth
@TheJediKenneth Год назад
I was excited when Iger returned as CEO of Disney. Man, was I wrong!
@paulmaloney4387
@paulmaloney4387 Год назад
"Disney just had the worst summer ever!" *Good.*
@GUARDIANActual89
@GUARDIANActual89 11 месяцев назад
A well-thought out and comprehensive analysis.. except one thing: no mention whatsoever of the reason WHY people aren’t watching Disney content anymore.
@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419
@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419 11 месяцев назад
Personal choice, too many streaming options, burnout or bigotry. You can’t pin it down to a definitive answer
@bzporto
@bzporto 11 месяцев назад
Why is Succession's opening theme stuck in my head while I watch this?
@SecondTake123
@SecondTake123 11 месяцев назад
Bob Iger doesn't want to give up his CEO of Disney title! I hope they are working on an actual succession plan now.
@notchuckproductions5029
@notchuckproductions5029 Год назад
As I said in a previous video of yours , I’d argue this is normal for Disney in the grand 100 years of the company. Through out its history they have a pendulum swing of cultural dominance and Economic prosperity(30s,50s, late 80s-90s,2010s) to Being out of Touch Has beens and Losing money left and right(40s, 60s-mid 80s, 2000s) the 2020s seem like another dark period, and if history repeats its self by the 2030s or so they will be there the top of there game agin
@UsiQuotidiani.18
@UsiQuotidiani.18 Год назад
I hope so 🤞
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 Год назад
They're so out of touch... And you know what? The worst part is that they still cater to the worst type of people ever... The type that would declare war against their brand for having one gay character exist in something for like 3 seconds. Those people... It's impossible to even support a "progressive" product they release without butting heads with these morons. Hey Disney! Congrats, you've cultivated a toxic following for yourselves, now you deal with the consequences. You catered to them, you kicked out people who would take issues with their rhetoric. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Plus the treatment of talent is despicable, they treat the people who work on their films, on their actual products,.like garbage. The park is in DeSantis land, I am never going there. So maybe they will have to survive on the charity of neon@z1s in Florida. 😒
@funkymonk255
@funkymonk255 Год назад
perfect time for don bluth to come back and show them how to make an animated movie
@tiffanysandmeier4753
@tiffanysandmeier4753 Год назад
​@funkymonk255 I had to look up if Don Bluth was still alive. He is and is 86.
@notchuckproductions5029
@notchuckproductions5029 Год назад
@@funkymonk255 He tired with The Dragons Lair Movie Pitch , but no studio seemed interested
@davidfeltheim2501
@davidfeltheim2501 11 месяцев назад
This is the change the industry has been needing for a while now. The strike and the failures of all these corporate projects while actual quality films like Spiderverse, Oppenheimer and Barbie have made bank is really indicative of all the changes in the industry, when given a genuinely good product consumers will pick it over hollow nostalgia-based shlock that companies like Disney could make easy money from.
@terrelloglesby1481
@terrelloglesby1481 Год назад
Sheesh! The mouse def had a bad summer!
@juice6521
@juice6521 11 месяцев назад
I thought it would have happened maybe 5-6 years ago, but I think the Super Hero bubble has well and teuly burst now. People are finally bored of these movies.
@samuelteyssier9198
@samuelteyssier9198 Год назад
Dan should do one of these videos for each of the studios.
@mediaboxc600
@mediaboxc600 Год назад
"Just one more thing." -- Said Columbo as Bob Iger grew more nervous.
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 11 месяцев назад
PAY several thousand dollars for a stay in jail? The Galactic Starcruiser confined the "guests" and there were features reminiscent of going to boot camp. Did they have lights out? Kick the customer out of bed if the customer didn't answer Reveille and sleep in? Some vacation!
@hallopino
@hallopino Год назад
I heard the worst mistake they did with Galactic Starcruiser was to call it a "hotel" and not an "experience" or "immersive over-night experience". Calling it a hotel set up all the complaints you mentioned which the project was never going to solve.
@Flashfm3000
@Flashfm3000 Год назад
They could've called it whatever they wanted and people still would've expected the hotel experience, as one should when staying at a Disney resort. The public does not abide by corporate nomenclature. That's why everyone refers to Galaxy's Edge and The Wizarding World of Harry Potter as "Star Wars Land" and "Harry Potter World."
@PhilDonaldson
@PhilDonaldson Год назад
Great take (as usual), Dan. 😁
@teddyfail
@teddyfail Год назад
wild seeing Disney had some of the best years in the history of company, then just flush it all down the toilet after a few years. This is the company best known for having a stronghold on its brand image, just keep taking PR Ls during one summer. It’s kinda impressive actually.
@kraszoski
@kraszoski Год назад
Quoting George Carlin "good! F*ck em!" Disney totally worked for it for few years.
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater Год назад
I am taking entirely too much delight in all of this.
@sebagonzalezmusic
@sebagonzalezmusic 11 месяцев назад
The room of that Galactic Starcruiser hotel looked more like the cells in that ocean prison in Andor😳. Especially with "no window."👀
@didier9947
@didier9947 Год назад
As bad as it is right now, with Snow White and The Marvels coming up, it's going to get worse before it gets better
@HooverTuber
@HooverTuber 11 месяцев назад
To be fair, a lot of Disney’s woes related to streaming and the strikes is shared across all the big studios, with Disney probably doing better in streaming than some others such as Paramount. Nonetheless, a very bad year with lots of work to do to turn the studio around, particularly with streaming and the theatrical business. These challenges are not unlike the troubles Disney faced in the 70s, with virtually no box office hits, fledgling TV business and creative brain drain as longtime animators retired from the studio. The only bright spot then, like now, were the parks. It took a true visionary, like Eisner, to navigate the company out of that 70s malaise and into the studio renaissance of the late 80s and 90s. But that was then… The path to success was a bit clearer with linear TV and home video a big part of that equation. Today? Streaming has mucked it all up. It’s clearly too expensive given the revenue and finite number of subscribers. The model has to shift in a significant way, likely with an ad component and increased consumer prices for both premium and ad supported tiers. We ain’t gonna like it as consumers…
@jbuford04
@jbuford04 Год назад
Can I think of anyone having a worse summer? ...yea, all the writers and actors and everyone else providing the labor for those 7 figure salaries. Break the system!
@KadeemG61
@KadeemG61 Год назад
I think Disney bungled both Indy 5 and Haunted Mansion release dates and that’s why they both flopped. Indy 5 should’ve moved to August so that they don’t compete with Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning (Pt. 1) and Barbenheimer. Haunted Mansion should’ve been a Halloween movie. They haven’t learned anything from Hocus Pocus 30 years ago and released the film from July 93 instead of Halloween. That ended up becoming a flop but has since become a cult classic on Home Video and on Freeform where they aired the movie every Halloween.
@tiffanysandmeier4753
@tiffanysandmeier4753 Год назад
It is hard to say if different release dates would have helped with these movies, but it couldn't have hurt. Indy 5 and Elemental shouldn't have screened at Cannes. It only hurt them. For Indy, I feel like the Last Crusade was the perfect end to the trilogy. Crystal Skull sucked and seemed unnecessary. I haven't watched Indy 5. I haven't seen anything to make me want to watch it. I feel the opposite of nostalgia for this movie, repugnant maybe. Maybe Haunted Mansion would have done better closer to Halloween. It likely would have had fewer expectations at the box office, and maybe that is what it needed to leg out a month or so at the box office. What people forget when they suggest Hocus Pocus should have been released in October is that another Disney movie was released in October of that same year and did really well, Nightmare Before Christmas.
@egoborder3203
@egoborder3203 Год назад
bad movies are bad movies. Spring, summer, fall... it doesn't matter when you make soulless garbage
@tiffanysandmeier4753
@tiffanysandmeier4753 Год назад
@@egoborder3203 that may be, but with the right timing, it can make the difference from losing a ton and breaking even.
@KadeemG61
@KadeemG61 11 месяцев назад
@@egoborder3203that’s what toxic Disney haters have to say.
@Luv2Dnce4
@Luv2Dnce4 11 месяцев назад
The game of Monopoly played out in real life. Buy up everything until there’s nowhere to go but down…amongst the angry people you slighted on your way up.
@Bananahammock681
@Bananahammock681 Год назад
It's never right to laugh at misfortune that could cost a lot of people a job, but one has to think... Nelson Laugh "Ha haaaaa!"
@shahin-177
@shahin-177 11 месяцев назад
Watching this after having an awful time at DisneyLand yesterday. First time too.
@travisgilbert1716
@travisgilbert1716 9 месяцев назад
Ok so I'm late to the video, but I love Columbo, and I use the "Just one more thing" all the time when leaving peoples office. Watched alot of Columbo as a kid with dad.
@mediawarrior5957
@mediawarrior5957 11 месяцев назад
WB had the FLASH become the biggest super hero flop ever and Blue Beetle released DOA.
@MichaelWutsch
@MichaelWutsch Год назад
I had no idea that the avengers movies were moved a year. In the last 3 or 4 years i just dont trust release dates until you can actually buy the tickets
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