Just a pinned comment to say a big thank you to everyone who's shared our channel, liked a video, bought something on our shop, commented or otherwise generally come along with us on this crazy and fun ride working on nuggets of various quality and style. You guys rock.
I love the real time, take us with you, hanging with the boys for the day kind of videos. The banter and reality is refreshing compared to the cutting and editing on every single channel on youtube these days. It's nice to spend time with the channels you love.
@@driveshift plz don't disrespect me,this disrespected nose thing started fairly recently, I was around since mom's driveway . Teaching us how to install boost gauges n spray rims with rattle cans. I was just overjoyed to see SUPERGRAMPS after so long n didn't want them talking as much in this specific video. I apologize for being so aggressive though.....but it's SUPERGRAMPS man!!
Yeah me too, but Moogs bullshit and continual interruption's on Marty when he's speaking, especially to try being funny, just annoys the absolute s#!t out of me. Example on this vid, the thumbs up crap with the BMW manual, so incredibly annoying Moog, seriously check yourself dude and stop it. Go read some of the comments on TSF's latest upload.
@@benjiman46 Your probably right Ben, and I've tried hard for a while now, but I can't help it mate, I'll try harder. 👍BMW 👍I have to admit that's the only annoying thing about him, he is super talented, especially musically and also producing this show.
@@jamesblanton9364 I appreciate the mature reply mate, he's just being entertaining though. I think that's just what he's like though, he just wants to entertain people and make them happy, which is why he makes music and RU-vid videos. He does interrupt Marty quite a lot though, I'll give you that, but they're best mates and you can really see that on camera. I'm sure Marty doesn't find him as annoying 😂
since i'm paralyzed of my right arm, i like to have studs on my subaru because it makes it easier when i have to change my tires winter/summer. And yes i still work on cars with one hand!
@@ningen1980 Excuse you? What's wrong with the VW bolts? I much prefer them over shoddy, rust attracting aftermarket bolts or those idiotic chrome ford bolts.
My thoughts on the Euro lugstud bolt thing is as such: I worked in an all makes all models car shop for about 3 years and serviced an average of 8 or so cars a day. I was advised to buy Matco brand threaded pins. They insert into the hole that the lug nut uses, you install 1 on a wheel after removing the first lug stud and then it holds it up, and you can slide the wheel off whenever youd like. It works to align the wheel on the hub and prevent the wheel from dropping. Also, I had a common problem with traditional style lug nuts. What would happen is, as you tighten and loosen a lug nut many times, the stud will stretch and get thinner, and the threads will distort over time causing thread alignment issues. So as I removed the lug nuts they sometimes would have boogered threads and the resistance would rip the stud in half, nuggeting the stud and the lug nut. This then required a new lug nut and stud. The replacement process isn't that bad most of the time, it takes about 10 minutes on most cars if you are skilled and have tools at the ready. This is a kinda normal problem to have. HOWEVER, in all this time working on cars, I never had a single Euro style lugstud break or strip on me. Even on 20 year old Jettas with 247,000 miles on them. So my conclusion is: The Euro style lugnut bolt things are a pain for basic tire and wheel service because the wheels can drop, but they break less often and with an extra tool, they are not too difficult to use. Thank you for reading and learning some of the info i gathered over the last few years
I have the same understanding, wheel bolts are more reliable. There is only one thread contact, bolt to the wheel hub. The stud connection adds complexity, to the wheel hub and then the nut connection to the stud. The nut is therefore a weaker system to keep your wheels on. The stud threads also take a bit of beating every time you take the wheel off. I suppose however it's just a matter of dimensioning the studs to add enough safety factor. The only real advantage of studs is easy positioning of the wheel, but you usually have a lip the wheel sits on even with bolt design, at least on my cars.
SmallTownMadness I also work in multicultural shop. From BMW to Lexus and I have never had a problem with boogered up studs or lug nuts when torqued correctly. With that being said. I have never had a problem with a lugstud either and they do have more thread contact so theoretically they should be stronger. I myself prefer the stud and lug nut as I have never had a problem with them on any of my own personal vehicles 🤷♂️
Pro Tip: if you get roof drippings on your paint from parking garages - it's mostly calcium from the concrete (think limestone). Vinegar and a rub with a cloth will take it off. no need to use sandpaper at all.
The guy I bought my BMW off of over torqued the bolts and I snapped one trying to take my tire off to replace my rotors. Now I have to replace the hub assembly... I prefer studs!
I am not an repair shop worker, but for Germany´s winters (Salt on the streets to fight ice) bolts are easier to handle. The Wheel tend to rust not so tight as on studs. I had both sorts and the honda wheels got pretty much every season stuck and needed some love with a sand filled plastic hammer. My Renault bolted wheels were easyer to change.
Double wishbone/multi-link suspension has the advantage of being able to change the camber as the wheel goes up to keep the wheel contact flat as the body rolls around a corner. Struts have a fixed camber.
That's not totally true, the camber changes in McPherson suspensions too (struts is not a thing, is a generic name), it's just that the kinematic of a double wishbone offers a greater range of variation during the suspension travel and is much easier for an engineer to tune the right behaviour in (I'm a chassis engineer and I was able to get a double wishbone front and rear car right at my first experience, that's how free to adjust you are). However the main difference is not the camber, toe etc curves, is that McPherson suspensions need a precise geometry to avoid friction in the shock absorber (it can get transversely loaded) and that friction wears the shock absorber and reduces the control of the wheel during the travel. Moreover any coilover on any McPherson suspension that has shocks and coil springs coaxial worsen the friction in the shock absorber, however the benefits outpace the negatives.
@@libertyts sorry, sometimes I forget that "car enthusiasts" don't care about "technical car stuff". Be assured it's rare that I try with comments and thanks to you it will be even rarer
@@DarkMat90 fascinating.. great explanation, thanks for sharing the knowledge! Technical stuff has always been my passion and this was also helpful for me because in the future I want to build race cars and parts for them.. :)
@@DarkMat90 Could you explain why Rally/RallyX cars have McPherson struts all around? They drive fast bumpy corners all the time, specially sideways. Is it budget thing or do they excel in these particular instances?
I have a 2000 Forester and it has really impressed me over the last 3 years with towing trailers up to 1.5 ton all over tassie and the places it can go off road with trailer in tow. It only has the 2.0l engine, but with regular maintenance, it's a vehicle that's done 80k kilometres reliably and is a heap of fun to drive on the windy roads we have here. If the aftermarket was bigger for these in terms of bullbars, lift kits etc they would be one heck of a capable vehicle on and off road.
I put wheel studs on my e36 years ago and loved having them since then. I wrench on it pretty often, so I take the wheels off frequently enough to justify it. Only downside I've come across is now I have to take one of the studs off in the rear to adjust my parking brake shoes.
Unless you've already converted to studs, you can pickup a pretty cheap aluminum wheel hanger that threads in place of the first bolt you remove. Holds the wheel in place, makes aligning hub/rotor/and wheel easier, and it doesn't have threads on the whole shaft like lug stud that can bugger up your wheels. Lots of VAG cars come with a plastic version in your tool kit, but the aluminum ones are real cheap online and plenty strong
It takes a little to get used to bolts, but I really prefer them now. I've had a wheel but back off and on me before, and that stud got wrecked. Much faster and lower hassle to replace a bolt than a stud. Honestly though, I can't say either is a big enough deal to warrant a strong opinion
I'm with you Marty. Automatics, paddle shift, (auto) sequential shift, DSG and CVT I find totally uninspiring and boring to drive, regardless of how fast the car is. I'd rather have a 'slower' manual version every day.
scootbmx01 -i reckon a rally car sequential would be almost as fun as a manual just because its a big clunky lever, But an f1 paddle shift thats less fun cause you only use one finger. If i had a real race car though flappy paddle sequential all the way because you will have huge power, turbo, 100+mph, other drivers, a race track, and racing line to worry about other than shifting.
Love to see how different countries have adopted different types of fastfood. Here in Denmark there are kebab shops on every corner, but they are quite different to yours. Ours are just a soft tortilla like bread, salad, some use tomatos and onions, and then creme fraiche dressing with i think chives, which is delicious! My girl is from Turkey, and she hates the kebabs here, because its ALL wrong.lol
I own a 09 Audi S4 Avant, and the way Marty described what he wanted with super gramps, is the same reason I love my S4. The awesome thing is, I bought it like this, you guys created it yourself and that is some inspiration. Love you guts!
Press...? Ive always just used a sledge and impact. I will say as a mechanic ive never had to replace a lug bolt, ever, but ive had to replace several lug studs. /shrug
The SPecB GT has got to be one of my most favourite Subaru's ever. I've owned a 3.0R and that was fun. Now I got a Diamond grey SPecB fully built by me and it never disspoints at 300KW atw on 98 pump....I know im pushing it a bit but hey, where can anyone get a e85 tune here in Melbourne lmao keep up the great work guys
Just FYI, wheel studs are only better for convenience. Wheel bolts allow for a greater torque capacity, which is why European car manufacturers generally go with wheel bolts over studs. Most wheel bolts torque up with 3-4 times the amount of foot pounds, or newton meters, in relation to comparable size/type vehicles. I hope this helps guys... Keep up the great content!
just a quick comment, I'm sure somebody has already mentioned this, but the biggest advantage of a double wishbone suspension vs a MacPherson suspension, is that with a double wishbone setup the wheel isn't tilted when it goes up and down, but remains more or less perpendicular to the ground rather than changing it's angle, and thus theoreticly allow for better contact with the ground when going over rough track or whatever:)
Talking about kebabs. Here in the Netherlands we have kapsalon which basically translates to barbershop. It is this ungodly amalgamation of fries, cheese, kebab, lettuce, tomatoes, unions, and garlic and sambal sauce. You should try it you guys ever find yourself hungry in the Netherlands! Great vid!
Moog: "Alright Martin... feed the beast!" Martin: "In the back! Moog: "What?" Martin: "Ummm..." Also... this Mighty Car Mods is BEST Mighty Car Mods. Moar "Dudes doing car stuff to Cars...Mods"!
Can I just say I love hearing you guys talk about music stuff while working on cars? Like I'm not a musician or a sound engineer, but it's cool to hear you guys share your opinions about other things you're passionate about. Plus it helps that I love listening to music and understanding why some bands struggle to continue making good music was really interesting. edit: It's also funny hearing you guys talk about suspension design because it's something I DO know a decent amount about, but seeing Marty get excited about learning new things all these years later is still cool even if I already know them.
In the UK, the kebabs (in terms of dirty takeaway stylee) are either lamb or chicken (not seen falafel very often), with pitta bread, lettuce, tomato, onion, whole chilli's, chilli sauce and garlic sauce (although burger sauce is a good stand by for garlic sauce). The large ones are sold in a polystyrene container with two pitta breads and a fork! But if you ever goto Greece, ask a local to take you somewhere for souvlaki. It is the BEST food in the world. Bar none. We have no souvlaki in the UK (not takeaway style) and I miss it like crazy. Damn, I need to order a kebab now! Keep up the good work guys, love your channel and look forward to seeing some more crazy kebab antics!
Whenever this car gets sold... I NEED IT! I fell in love with it since the first videos and you barely see them in Europe. I would literally take a loan to be able to afford SuperGramps. The love that went into this adds to the price for sure!
Sad day Marty, I bought an Outback XT last April and it's developed a ringland failure. Mostly my fault for not buying smart, but I think I'm going to have to let it go for a more reliable daily driver. XT/GTs are awesome 2nd cars, but they eat up weekends like it's no one's business. Really glad to see all the progress youve made, it's been an inspiring series.
Marty when the first chunk fell, was panicked, then the piece falls between Moogs legs and he's heartbroken. Right in the feels with that. And it's incredibly trippy to think that the company that made the Silvia, the 240z and the skyline now makes the leaf. And the company that made the Supra, and the AE-86 and the MR2 now make the Prius. How could things have gone so wrong? We have to go back.
Wheel bolts make fitment so much easier you just get longer bolts when needed that’s why most VAGs have some wild wheel setups where others have to use spacers and adapters to make things fit
Just wanted to say that I appreciated the conversations you guys had while doing the installation. I found the discussion about the AUS tuner market interesting in particular.
@@keithavian8129 A comment from Al in one of his vids is what made me find Binky and the BOM boys in the first place. Now a year-ish later I've re-watched the entire series 4 or 5 times. Bad obsession for ME!
I was literally thinking to myself yesterday that an aftermarket coilover company should make motorized adjusters for the damping. Well would you look at that, Cusco already did it! The Japanese just think of everything.
Tein has been doing that for years Tein EDFC is what it is called super handy in my daily as I can keep it nice and bouncy for daily driving and firm it up for more aggresive driving with the press of a button
Seriously, you have to do more vids like this boys! I loved the long format because watching you guys work, eat and chat is just a treat. Been watching for years, and will keep watching for a ton more if you keep dropping great stuff like this.
kababs i get are garlic paste, hot paste, a small tong of leatus, 3 huge scoops of fried onions, 6 pickles a huge scoop of tabooli, 3-4 scoop of chicken, small scoop of that rice and tonns of house garlic and taziki. with 5 good squirts of hot sauce. omg you guys made me want to go to my kabab shop thats an hour away
Putting wheels on studs can be hard enough to line up I cant imagine using wheel bolts and liking it. Unless I have that long wheel stud tool that german mechanics use (you thread it in to line the wheel up and take it out after a few bolts are in) but that german tool just proves that studs are better
there are alignment pegs that permanently stay on the rotor hats and align with holes in the back of the wheel - these are my preferred setup as if you live in the salt belt everything fuses to the wheel studs
Huh alright depends on the car I guess, and the wheels but that doesnt sound bad to work with Here in CA, the rust benifit doesnt apply, but makes sense.
the hub is what holds the wheel and then you can just rotate the wheel while its sitting on the hub. at least it was like that for my beetle/mini/jetta. If they are aftermarket, then hopefully they have hubcentric rings to line up the wheels on the hub
Tip for those with wheel bolts instead of studs - you can get bars on the internet with a thread at one end which matches the thread size and pitch of your wheel bolts. You wind it in to one of the wheel bolt threads on the hub before putting the wheel on, then slide the wheel over it through a bolt hole. It makes it so much easier to line the holes in the wheels up with the threads in the hub, and it will hold the wheel up while you grab the bolts. You just have to press the wheel against the hub as you fit the bolts. Obviously remove it and replace with the final bolt once you are done. I prefer stud and nut setups as I find them easier to use if you frequently have the wheels off your car, and studs give a more accurate and consistent torque reading than bolts.
You guys are ace, down to the ground, decent people. Massive fan and only wish there were more videos, but I appreciate that every video you do is QUALITY!. Thanks guys you cheer me up after a tough day at work.
After seeing the ........shall i say "The Kebab incident" in the Mira, I would love to see you two with a hamburger with the lot and a chiko roll in the Mira next! Cheers guys, great content, Paul
