Disrupting the 100 year old HVAC Industry | Blue Box 

I think he needs a sales / marketing guy that can explain it in 20 minutes in stead of an hour 20..

I sawed my boat in half and used a blue box as a life vest, it saved my life ! 😁

WOW... A foaming enzyme. Nothing unique about this product. Apparently Trever Milton's play book lives on.

An area in need of disruption!

I find the comments from professionals here to be very informative.

Needs a condensed version of his sales pitch.

Instead of selling off part of his company to raise money... He should probably sell franchises. Could raise capital, expand operations, increase sales and not have massively increase his staff.

You should have labeled this an Infomercial and a stock pumping con. I've operated an HVAC business for almost 40 years. I would NEVER do what he's doing. Guess where all the crud goes when his enzyme cleaner (in use for decades in the industry.) is used with the unit running? That's right, into the ductwork and ultimately into the air conditioned spaces. When we clean a large indoor air handling unit, we turn the unit off, then hang a tarp up just downstream of the coil using magnets. We buy the enzyme cleaner in bulk and apply it to the fan side of the evaporator using a 1.5 gallon garden sprayer, equipped with a Shraeder valve so it can be pumped up with an air compressor to about 60 PSI. This high pressure stream penetrates the evaporator very well. Then wash the gunk away with a 3 gallon garden sprayer full of water, again pressurized to 60 PSI while making sure the waste is going down the condensate drain. Or if a garden hose can be brought to the evaporator, rinse it that way. Finally, when possible, we blow out the coil with compressed air. Otherwise when the blower is started, all the water held in the coil by capillary attraction would be blown toward the conditioned spaces. If we can't get compressed air to the evaporator coil, we move the tarp to direct air from the evaporator out the access hatch. Running the fan for a few seconds will clean out all the water. We clean up our mess and if the client has elected the option, install germicidal lamps in front of the evaporator. My standard of clean is of one of my guys can shine a flashlight into one side and I can see light through the coil on the other.

As a layperson, my BSometer went off the charts. I also wonder why the hell the HVAC manufacturers don't treat their coils to prevent biofilm build-up in the first place. There are well-known methods to prevent this, i.e. plating the aluminum with copper, zinc, silver nanoparticles, boron, or other materials that inhibit microbial growth. A quick Google search shows that this has already been researched and shown to significantly reduce the buildup of biofilms on HVAC coils.

We've been using enzyme coil cleaners, and fully penetrating through the coils with foam in the HVAC industry for decades. You can buy enzyme coil cleaners at HVAC supply houses, or even off Amazon. I'll have to investigate this more, but this guy is setting off my BS alarms. I hope you have not given him any money yet.

Reduce the cleaning and filter migration by installing UV before the coils, micros are reduced 90%, efficiency is increased, same for chilled water systems and towers.

As a former HVAC tech, I've used enzyme coil cleaners for years. This guy is very evasive when it comes to direct questions. I think the only thing he can patent is the delivery system. He's taken a commercially available enzyme cleaner and patented a delivery system that nobody used before (i.e., send an employee into the air handler to manually pump enzyme solution when the system is running).

This guy has amazing ability to keep opening his mouth and create some pointless noise for a very long time while waving his hands...

Can someone please explain to me how this is any different from dozens of other “foaming enzymatic” HVAC coil cleaning products out there?

Operating Rooms are sanitized with UV type C light. You can install UVC LAMPS inside the air handler system also, very very cheaply and the bulbs cost a few bucks.

Zac & Jesse thanks for your good intentions with this guy idea or product..... After almost 1-1/2 hours of going around and around, the conclution is very simple.... What he might have is a foam enzime product that might be better than what is already in the market.... That's it! The blue box is a simple tank and a air compressor with an eductor that generates foam from his magic liquid enzimes.... Has some potential but be very careful..

GREAT PRODUCT. NOW IF HE COULD JUST COMPLETE A SENTENCE.

65% Introductory Talk, 12% Content, 23% Waste of time! A shorter version of this interview is definitely needed.

After watching the entire 1hr 20 minutes video I came to the conclusion that the secret sauce, if it’s a secret, is that enzyme cleaner. I am surprised that Jim didn’t describe more about the process to develop their cleaner, without giving any proprietary secrets, of course. It’s also best to get some data, for example the types of moulds the enzyme can clean, the safety of the product and the size of jobs they handle. The problem of contaminated HVAC in hospitals is real and very serious. I know of a hospital that had to shut down completely because of contamination in the HVAC.

Three minutes in, and he still has not answered the first question: _"What is Blue Box?"_ So I'm out.

The CEO can't even clearly articulate the elevator pitch w/o stumbling around. Inspires little confidence. No thanks. Wouldn't put a dime in Blue Box.

Over one hour of video and he just cannot get to the point, what is it so different, instead of telling his life story?

Geezus, get to the point! I could only take a couple of minutes of this wind bag. I use a Sanuvox UVC on my evaporator coil, and wash the condenser coil with Dawn dish detergent and soft water. Boom, done!

I'm old and a Blue Box was a box that produced 2600Hz to make FREE long distance phone calls! :)

This is where the idea of not bringing in HVAC people may be hurting him. Building engineers and building owners care IMMENSELY about energy efficiency. That electric bill they pay is likely the largest expense in a commercial office building and the building engineers answer directly for the electric cost. If you aren't selling them the energy savings, you are doing it WAY, WAY wrong. Coils have been schmooed up since the beginning of time. If you can get a 40% drop in dp across the coil on average, that is what you need to sell them. That is the language building engineers speak.

anyone that wears dress shoes without socks and meets you in a hotel room... sus af

Coil cleaners have been available for decades. Plus using good filters and replacing regularly prevents coils getting dirty. All commercial HVAC companies clean coils.

James M is asked, 'What is Blue Box?' and at 4:49 he still hasn't answered the question. I suggest that he gets an accomplished salesperson to help him develop an 'elevator pitch', a succinct way of showing how what he sells fixes a problem which is hurting his target market.

Trevor Milton but even less convincing. He keeps saying he has a great story but doesn't tell us the story. The reason he's raising money is not because the company needs money? OK HVAC systems need cleaning, but he has not told us how his system is better or quicker or cheaper or more environmentally friendly than current methods. Even if he does have something good he is not the person to run the company. Sounds harsh but you need someone who can communicate effectively. Most of these episodes have been excellent but this is a rambling dud. I'm shouting at Zac to tell the guy to shut up and tell us what his product is, what the USP is and what the available market is. And do that in no more than two minutes.

imagine talking to this guy for about 3hrs, he just keeps on baiting u and won't reveal his true intentions

I saw nothing new here. Coil cleaning is a very big part of HVAC&R service and maintenance and most all good companies do it almost daily. I have done it for 45 years. Yes it saves a lot of energy and can greatly lengthen the life of the system. The no rinse enzymatic evaporator coil cleaner has been on the market for many years and it works. And the statement that HVAC systems are oversized to make up for dirty evaporator coils is just not true.

The coils are only part of the indoor air quality problem in a building. This guy is really stretching the truth in this interview to sell a product.

I have a $15 box fan that I put in my window. It had a lot of dust-bunny-like buildup all over it. I cleaned it thorougly, and re-oiled it. It's not like I have numbers to back me up, but it sure feels like it blows twice as much air. Restriction means a lot.

The roasts from the peanut gallery here burn 🔥 the CEO said “Think of chillers, you know,” he said, waiving both hands in a huge arc, “like a massive V8 engine. It’s just a horse.” The investor thought to himself ‘this is the theranos of HVAC’

If all it takes to clean the filter is to leave the fans on to suck all the detergents thru the coils ? Why can’t everyone use a cleaner with a anti virus additive to clean the system ?

The takeaway is.... clean your HVAC system (and change your filters routinely, as well).

I'm not giving this guy any money and before it hits the 10 minute mark, I'm not going to give him any more of my time.

Wow, he lost me almost instantly explaining his product. This guy needs to work on his elevator pitch.

Seems to me that if this process is revolutionary, his business model should be as a distributor and not as the business doing the work. Licensing makes much more sense. Blue box could be a franchise.

Less than 30 seconds into the interview and I was thinking....."I'm pretty sure this is an infomercial." 10 seconds later I started fast forwarding to random parts to see if this guy ever gets to the point (he never really did.) A minute-ish into the interview and I was ready to find a new video, but decided to read comments on this one just for kicks. Glad I did so I never have to wonder if I missed something with the blue box. The only thing I missed out on was about 2 minutes of my time.

This what a man on methamphetamines sounds like in an interview. BTW, I use Dawn dish soap mixed with water in a spray bottle and I always. Oops what the hell was I talking about? Oh do you know that 1863% of man handlers have chillers in a subterranean room that we started calling basements. I had no clue about these filters or MERV Griffin ratings. Trust me. This is the greatest system upgrade in at least 600 years and black beans ur uh um uh and uh MOLD, that is the worst moldy Hawaiian I have ever seen.

Cleaning requires shutting down the whole plant, which results in millions of gallons of shortages (at least with refineries). This is a good argument for having 10x more refinery plants that can only produce 10% to 15% of one giant one. You can rotate the cleaning without crippling the supply chain. Bonus upside: MORE JOBS.

I have no idea what his patent is but hey, this is America you can patent any old tat if you have the cash. I did my home unit with an 'ordinary' coil cleaner foam, just seemed sensible to me to open an access panel so foam could travel in direction of airflow (I had to cut into panelling of air handler then fitted a stainless steel plate) There was immediate improvement. It's obviously working 'better' as wife hasn't noticed thermostat setting several degrees higher than it was a year ago and air is 'colder'

when people try to explain something but jump constantly away from that and even cant focus on one thing they are either on drugs or scammer.

Interesting product for building owners and managers, but as a potential investor... he didn't answer the question on how to invest. Just said they are looking for the right kind of people to take it forwards. So basically we got a sales pitch.

Haven't watched the entire interview but isn't their already coil foam cleaners on the market? I've used a can of it myself. What is different about this?

Never had a tech clean my coil while its installed and running/ This is something i could do myself if i had this system. He should sell the system and people would buy it up quick thats for sure.

This guy reeks of major con speech… He drops the ends of his words, does not ANSWER the questions, does not finish his sentences… Says “you know” like a hypnotist, AND will not direct tell “how to invest!” He just is an expert at creating DESIRE… A super con man salesman

In residential air conditioning systems HVAC guys remove the coil and acid wash to get completely clean.

Have you ever drank water from a soda dispenser at a ice maker in any restaurant??? Lol colonies...

One bio problem is legionnaires disease. It can kill. Also, the COVID-19 HVAC upgrades and ongoing maintenance which has been neglected for 100 years

My ac guy told me the new refrigerants are more damaging to ozone than the old one but no one is going to change them because everyone is heavily invested in these systems now.

Let's not create more bureaucracy in society it's not needed, companies can do all this on their own, we don't need more laws, This blue Box system sounds really good good, it doesn't need any help from government, Be careful what you wish for, Thanks for sharing

Initially I concluded this guy needs to hire a more articulate spokes person! After reading the comments here… I understand why he keeps talking in half sentences… repeating himself and waving his hands around! I would not be surprised if coils were not cleaned in major buildings, which are typically owned by investors, not the corporations that lease space in them… and most of these people hire low paid maintenance men, not HVAC Engineers! Now… the question we are led too… fairly pointedly, by a commenter here… is this channel going to follow the same prototype of the Tesla gang, for ARK Innovative stock?

How did I know there would be other angry HVAC professionals in the comments section ha!. This guy thinks he invented coil cleaning, how rich....or at best he thinks he's the first guy to ever try cleaning a coil with the blower or condenser fan running. There are a myriad of reasons why systems are oversized by 40% (in some applications). None of them are that "no one is able to clean the coils". The giant industry of HVAC maintenance contracts does not exist for no reason. Sounds to me like he ran across some facilities maintenance guys at gm that had been failing at maintaining their air handlers because they never used a competent HVAC company and they were probably trying to do it themselves with a shop vac or some other dumb idea. They let their coils get so bad over the years that he was able to make a 40% difference in airflow by actually cleaning the coils. He may succeed in selling his cleaning services, and possibly in selling the stupid kit (or whatever the pitch was going to be) to naive rubes. But you'll never see this stupid crap in an HVAC supply store or a service technician's van. We have heavy duty products and techniques that work already. This isn't innovation, it's someone discovering and solving a problem....that is discovered and solved every day of the week (without his little rolling suitcase of foam). I've invented a brand new way to clean floors...no one has ever cleaned a floor before now. I use a long stick with a bunch of cloth strands on one end....you dip in in a bucket of cleaner and then use my patented ringer outer to squeeze the water out. I call it a flop.... because of the sound it makes when it hits the floor. In ten years people will be flopping their floors all over the world! Also coming soon...ever get tired of cleaning your teeth with your fingernails? How about a small brush that you hold in your hand?....sick of wiping your butt with a handful of leaves like an ape? You'll never guess what I've invented...in comes in a roll....and the more layers I use the more I can claim that one roll is somehow worth six rolls....just so I can irritate people when they are shopping. Okay I'm going to stop now. But wait...you ever get tired of walking through puddles in your bare feet? Have I got a product for you....I call it a foot house...

I’ve been cleaning coils like this forever, because common sense 🤣

So he patented the MLM part of the enzyme foam because im in Hvac and its what we use but no one is going around doing it or doing it themselves cuz they are lazy and dont pay the power bills. Good idea 👍. Or just fire your maintenance man for slacking.

He's like my mother just keeps repeating himself

Its not to late to take this video down, only 67,000 people have seen this. I feel like i just watched a plague of stupidity spread. I had to keep fast forwarding because he was never getting to any points he was trying to make and I was really hoping he'd explain what blue box was...but he never completed any of his thoughts about anything. What was the innovation here? Enzyme coil cleaners have been around for at least 20 years. Is this one better in some way than the others that I missed? Is this something other than a foam lance in a pretty blue cooler? I was certified in HVAC then earned a degree in building construction technologies and worked in the residential and commercial industry. He had a few partial facts correct but I would have to disagree with most of what he said. Evaporator coils are most defiantly intended to be cleaned, it's part of the maintenance of all refrigeration systems that is supposed to occur on what ever schedule is applicable to it's "installed environment". Does it happen (?) NO! In residential applications it's another expense of an already costly system and the evaporator coil is often ignored because it is hidden. Even changing the air filters is to much of an inconvenience for many home owners to bother with on a regular schedule. In a commercial application... again regular maintenance but too many people feel that things don't require attention until something breaks. while bypassing lock-out/ tag-out safety precautions and applying while the unit is operating is probably a better application method. many coil cleaners are self foaming/ self rinsing that the upstream face of the coil is covered in a layer of foam (like shaving cream) the unit is closed up and energized that pulls the foam into the coil and the condensate water rinses it all away. The sizing of HVAC systems are based on "usually" on anticipated thermal loads, environmental influences and the buildings "insulation envelope". Do they oversize systems(?), of course! Are some some oversized incorrectly(?).. yes! But most commercial systems have some variable component that allows the system capacity to vary. If a system is sized to cool a building intended to have 10 people inside of it and 20 people come in than the system is undersized. If you just oversize a system and the same 10 people are there the unit will not run long enough for the humidity to come out of the air and it will feel clammy inside. Variable speed compressors and fans are used to drop the capacity of the system when less cooling or heating is required. To save the people who know know the field from feeling compelled to fill in gaps in what I've said here..... this was overly simplified and most commercial systems are fare more complicated than was necessary for trying to explain on this thread....

Such a great 💡. Can you disclose any VC fund or way to invest?

This guy has a SERIOUS problem getting to the point. I think he loves hearing himself speak, but he's also evasiv and tectically vague. It's a bit painful to listen to, allthough the content, reduced to its core, is interesting and the described issues around cleaning the fins in heat exchangers the world over are very valid.

Blue box in a refillable spray bottle.

This guy is probably the worst spokesperson for this company. He’s everywhere and nowhere; has too many thoughts in his head and keeps jumping from one looking to another. I tunned him off.

It sure looks like the only revolutionary thing he offers is customer awareness. HVAC systems are important, they need proper maintenance and cleaning. There are already many similar products. Plus a residential HVAC coil is small and not that difficult to clean.

There are many places it is obvious this guy doesn't get HVAC yet. Any centrifugal blower draws less amps, not more when a coil is dirty, or high static. Centrifugal pumps are the same, they are not moving any volume so less work is done, not more. Misinformation #1. The chiller, #2, that went off went off on High Head Pressure due to the greater load put on it due to the cleaner coils. He either misunderstood or doesn't understand. This has nothing to do with his product, only he is perpetuating misinformation.

This needs to be available to residential customers.

As an Hvac tech 😂😂😂😂😂. Dude trying to sell something that already exists. In more than one way. He’s legit just trying to sell his product like people do selling people a new ac.

We were cleaning air handler coils and condenser coils as far back as the 1970 in Miami... We used Shaklee Basic H (household cleaner) ... Do basically the same damn thing... Bare in mind, you have to be extremely careful with any bleach or ammonia because you will destroy the electric coils in the motors

Imagine if this was all true and no other way to clean climate control systems, submariners would have died of black lung and other respiratory disease by now!!!🤣 We smoked, ran all types of petroleum and cooking systems, not to mention radiation and other bio-hazards in an enclosed space for months on end.😎😉🥱

The cruise industry needs this badly!!

Handymen around the world have been doing similar processes since HCAV has existed. you cornering the market and your " sneeze on a coil and you have a case" is Garbage.... get the enzymes and a foaming degreaser at your local hardware store and do it yourself.... Sue us all if you can man

so much bs its unfathomable lmfao 😂 the guy isnt even hvac certified to even be messing with hvac systems of any kind!!!

This guy doesn't know anything about HVAC. What is the chemical? Is it acidic? I clean coils all the time and home and light commercial coil cleaning is no problem. If the system is running them the cleaning chemical particles will get in the air and into the conditioned space. Too much talk of what inspired the inventor and not about the product.

It'd be nice if there was chapter markers on the timeline for different discussion topics to make it easier to explore different topics quicker. Thanks for the interview

So the blue box is just that a blue box I think I’m going to get a red box and put a little pump in it . I’m coming out with it it’s called Redbox . As far as enzymes go I’m sure those are readily available everywhere .

I'm 5 minutes in and he hasn't even tried to explain what this actually is. Why do I feel like a human dream journal trynna guess what he's all about? Probably because HVAC coil cleaning is already a thing that doesn't need a brand name trying to cash in on the greenwashing spin... I'll edit this if I"m wrong.

scam . the office in Australia si actualy a Shell petrol station. but wat is the point? they might sell the box to you in USA and you after to clean hvac systems or to sell other blue box . a piramidal sale bussines.

He reminds me of my buddy who gets bombed out of his mind on oxys and never quits talking while not making any useful points. He also reminds me of Biden

Trenton Milton #2. He only became a HVAC company. I've been cleaning coils for years. And he is no Elon Musk, Sorry

Can we clean our Teslas HVAC with this? It would be awesome if they can do a DIY pack for Teslas

This is startup suicide we need to all black this video so that he doesn't lose his business, he's just been lucky because he doesn't use people in the HV AC industry so no one's told him that this is common practice and he's just been lucky and now he told the whole world 73000 views that he's been doing this and he thinks he's got a patent on it that won't hold up in court. What he's doing is great so let's help them out and flag this video so that they take it down before he loses his business

Damn he dragged out his responses.

The choppiness or the presentation and the putting out of words and then cutting them off makes it seem that this person is selling snake oil. However, cleaning coils makes a lot of sense. Some backup testing would be helpful. Getting the Senate building or the Supreme Court coils clean would make a lot of difference.

Great info and great company/product but dude can’t finish a sentence and was driving me crazy.

So he "invented" something that has been being used for decades. A lot of the stuff he says that no one does, does happen. He's basically a scammer.

80 employees and 9.2mil gross?! Is he paying them min wage?!

He talks too much! What is this box.. I am like... what feels like 20 minutes and I don't know anything about the product! I know a fair amount about his life.. he sells himself... but sell me the BOX!!!!!!

Pretty sure this guy has exceeded his maximum recommended inhalation of spores. Probably not a good idea to work in these lockout rooms with the system running without proper respiratory protection.

As an HVAC Design Engineer, this is not innovative. Search coil cleaning enzymes. HVAC Contractors use a simpler yet, hand pumped yard sprayer, with equal effectiveness.

TAKE MY MONEY!!

People that don't hardly finnish their sentances.. and starts off by it's interisting and it's not about the money..come on fella

Having worked in many refineries and an expert in distillation you are off base. Refiner's know all about heat transfer coefficient and cleaning heat exchangers. Yeah clean coils in condenser and evaporator are important. These photos are not typical of home design. systems that typically do have filters that can be cleaned or replaced and dust/leaves vacuumed (the typical issue for home systems - not slime)

Am I the only one who thinks this guy sounds like a male version of Elizabeth Holmes?

How are you extracting the “foam” once you spray it?

Dude they have had this out since the ac was invented just about You just put yours in a igloo cooler and stuck a sticker on it . 🤦🏾

I'm watching this at 2x speed and I'm getting impatient to know what the product is and what it does. I'm sure that there is a 3 minute way to tell this story.

Trying to follow this guy is insane!

Ultra violent in the ducts... this already exist

That interview sucked. I couldn't even watch it at 2x, it was waaaaay to long and tangential.

This video is what RU-vid is made for - what a totally enjoyable interview with a fired up founder. Would never be able to experience this conversation and insight at this phase of Blue Boxes life cycle, only in INC interview in 10 years when they sell for $500m. This is really cool.