Division Within Israel? & Rishi Sunak's AI Legacy 

I just saw Rory in his Populism, Aristotle and Hope lecture for Gresham College and am genuinely stupified by this gentleman. His range of knowledge and ability to articulate it with brilliant rhetorical skills and empathy has me looking up everything he puts out now. What a gem!

TRIP is by far the best current affairs/ politics programme on youtube. More power to these two.

Rory's breadth of knowledge is outstanding. I doubt anyone in Parliament can even remotely compete. The PM we should have had, but never will. Just a wonderfully level-headed and astute individual.

Alistair and Rory are absolutely brilliant and explain everything in depth it's a pity more politicians can't be like this

Once again, it's a reflection on the British that this man was never seriously considered for PM, but somehow Cameron and Boris were. Truly baffling.

Rory steward is one of the best Prime Ministers we never had … truly great loss because he is simply brilliantly smart and very decent guy

The hardest thing to understand in all of this is why the US and the UK haven’t linked past support for Israel to the cessation of new settlements. At this point the chances of a 2 state solution have been whittled away in broad daylight.

I cannot under empathise emphasize even how important a part of my life this show has become it has helped me enormously to find perspective and just about hold onto my sanity in an ever increasingly mad mad world I cannot thank you both and guests enough for restoring my faith in humanity

As an American, it is a real pleasure to hear such a reasoned discussion of these very complicated and difficult issues.

I listen to this podcast weekly. Mature, experienced, human…and they disagree! The childish media and the even more childish political leaders should take note, a longer format discussion is required as issues are so complicated today.

The Likud Party charter uses near identical language about the River and the Sea, but for complete Israeli control.

Thank you Rory and Alistair. I love to listen to you both.

I remember Robin Cook in a government opposing a ****ing stupid war, don't you Alistair?

I really liked this mix of topics. Keep up the good work!

Totally agree that the situation is becoming 'normalized' - in the end we become immune to the horror and have to get on with our lives

Alistair and Rory (and/or editors) please accept this feedback to include topic timestamps for future videos and podcasts.

This is the best subscription I've made in the last two years. Very very interesting.

Can you please describe what Islamophobia is? shouldn't be called anti-muslim bigotry and not Islamophobia? Islamophobia prevents the criticism of the religion itself (which is an ideology) and in a free society, criticism of anything should be allowed.

Loving the pod as a welcome addition to my balance and nuance news diet.

Essential viewing. A brilliant podcast channel.

Listening to Alisdair talk about "having a clear objective before invading" is laughable.

Excellent and respectful of each other. If all political thinking was like this may be, the country will be in a better position. As always very interesting and insightful. Well done gentleman keep it up

For me, being pro Israel and pro security means precisely to be sharply critical of the west bank settlements. It totally undermines the ethical and political position of Israel for the sake of fringe right wing hardliners.

Only way rishi becomes a national treasure is if he gets locked in a box and turns into gold

Thank you both for yet another enjoyable and enlightening podcast. As is always the case in politics and everything else, the “environment bit” found itself squeezed into the last five minutes. Given that the climate and biodiversity crises are existential threats to humanity, could we please give them the space they deserve and dedicate a pod to their exploration?

Very frustrating, though not entirely surprising, how this conversation proceeds. Israel again and again discussed as an essentially reasonable actor which must be held to account and kept to international law, whilst any and all independent watchdogs have chartered their continuous failure to do so for at least three decades. The ruthless killings and destruction of all civil infrastructure by Israel being discussed not primarily as in itself an unforgivable, historic misdeed, but primarily as a tactical error because, after all, it will foment anti-israeli sentiment in the region and to some extent the global community. What is the very worst thing that could happen to israel if it is successfully besieged by all its neighbors? Surely the very worst outcome would be for it to face what gaza is facing right now. With the caveat that, unlike gaza, israel has resources and defences like the iron dome and bomb shelters. And yet that improbable prospective seems to carry more weight in the discussion than the facts on the ground in gaza yesterday, today and tomorrow. Israeli lives are once again held in higher esteem than Palestinian ones. As for Campbell measuring the leadership potential of a politician not by their vision for a sovereign nation's stance but by their willingness to kowtow to U.S. interests, well, at least it's very on-brand, isn't it?

Love this channel. Rory 👍👍👍

Thanks for posting.

The amount of content these guys put out makes me appreciate people like them. Constantly thinking about this stuff is exhausting.

congrats on 100k subs team! PS. Can you do timestamps for the pod here?

I bet every room of Rory's house has at least three beautiful objects in it.

So, _we_ have to accept the 'distinction between Jihadism and Islam' argument while at the same time _we're_ told to disregard the 'distinction between Zionism and Judaism' argument?

Knowledgeable, thoughtful, sane & humane. Thanks, Guys. 🙏🖖🏻

great show intelligent

gotta love the calligraphy on the side wall of Rory's place.

Another podcast that is also a broad based view of this conflict and is very helpful is Pod save the world. This is a conversation between Ben Rhodes and Tommy Veitor

It's sad that Alistair can't seem to put aside his apologist cap when it comes to Labour positions, even when it's the right thing to do. Rory is able to speak for himself, whether ot not his views will be shared or popular with his former party or the mainstream. I listen to this podcast knowing in advance that this will be the case because I believe it's important to know what ideologues on the other side of the issues will be saying. I don't want to be found guilty of living in an echo chamber, refusing to listen to people with opposing opinions, but I find myself groaning with frustration at Alistair's invevitable towing of the line on the most important issues that require moral leadership. Demanding a ceasefire is almost always the right position to take when it comes to the Middle East, and the current incarnation of the conflict is no exception. The fact that your possible future relationship with the US might be at odds because you differ on this point is a feckless reason to abandon calls for peace.

Please put timelinks in

Rory needs to ask himself, what would he do if the UK was being occupied? And he was being forced to move to Ireland.

The abused becomes the abuser

Oh I love the Islamic calligraphy art behind you on the wall, it's very beautiful ❤️

Thank you both for your thoughtful and intelligent dialogue, always helpful and thought provoking. The term domicide is reflective of a biblical reference - noted on another channel - which Netanyahu has used openly: Amalak, the complete obliteration of man, woman, child and their animals. It’s time for this deep seated conflict to be transformed. Humanity has to rise above politics. Both Gabor Mate and Miriam Margolyes , as members of the Jewish community, have articulated this masterfully.

Criminally underrated

tHANK YOU.

@restispolitics Please could you invite professor Ilan Pappé on for a deep dive into the causes of the current violence, and the underlying long term interests shaping the current military and PR strategies of each side. You're a rare channel that allows your guests to speak at length before posing thoughtful questions. This long form structure is vital in this often infuriating age of bitesized, revenue driven, decontextualised media. I'd love to see the conversation unfold between the three of you.

Rory constantly shows how poor Alistair understands the real situation in the middle East..

Alistair I’m going to buy you a vase and maybe some flowers. How about a nice Bridget Riley print? Go for it. Be daring with home furnishings.

Listening to this podcast the phrase that keeps leaping to mind is “Mealy mouthed”

Campbell is still a fool then. There is no comparison between the targeting in Serbia and that in Gaza. The Israelis are in asymmetric warfare against terrorists embedded in a densely populated urban setting. In Serbia there were military targets of a large standing military to go after. Not that NATO didn’t bomb the holy crap out of the general infrastructure anyway, killing plenty of civilians in the process. Campbell would be well advised not to go to Belgrade and tell them how much more ethical was the NATO targeting of their country than that of the IDF in Gaza.

Genocide is happening yet we just ponder

The footage and clips I've seen will never be anything outside horrific.

Soon winter will come, with cold and rain in Gaza. Imagine the health consequences on those currently homeless.

The idea that no technology is regulated before it's developed is just untrue. Cloning and genetic modification was heavily regulated ahead of the technology being developed to make it practical.

Rory could you please become PM and lead us into a brighter future together, tolerating the temperate and not tolerating the intolerant extremes.

There is a way we can have a conversation about Israel-Gaza in a non-confrontational way - we blame Netanyahu for the mess, and rightly so.

I'm liking Rory lately. Nice gaff too.

Alistair said the quiet part out loud: why would governments want to control social media? to control free speech? to snuff the democratisation of information? and why exactly should the state want to control people's access to AI?

Whatever the position is... it should be a national level.

Interesting.

What was the total number of the population in the areas where hamas attacked? Thanks

Today. Sat. Nov. 4th. Boy you guys are out of touch with the “man on the street”. Which interesting to see behind the curtain.

It will be big mistake having netanyahu back....

Can’t get enough of these two🌈🦋🐝🙃🙃🙃🙃

The irony of Alastair Campbell discussing the legality or illegality of bombing an innocent civilian population is not lost on me. Absolutely no self awareness!

All these politicians are shameless

The main law of war always seems to be 'might is right'.

Kier Starmer is now unelectable, get rid of him quick.

Keir Starmer's speech said there shouldn't be a ceasefire, which is staggering And Rory sadly glossed completely over Andy MacDonald's actual quote, which was that "all Israelis and Palestinians should live in peaceful liberty, from the river to the sea".

Keir is going to loose out in this and it may cost him the election as a result.

Still no mention of the atrocities happening in Congo?

Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks!

This man should be in the Labour party

Why can Alistair never complete a thought train ? About two carriages in, he switches lines!

I so much trust these two than Osborne and Balls.

Did he Netanyahu apologise ? I thought his Tweet was deleted and there was an apology for _posting_ it. A classic non-apology apology.

Alistair doing backflips for Starmer - he’s demonstrated extreme incompetence and lack of vision.

An explanation of the Pakistan expulsion of Afgan refugees would be a useful discussion - so much seems to go unnoticed whilst the focus of the world is on Israel/Hamas

Incredible how Fishi is involved with this AI summit when he can't even open his What'sApps!!!!!

The next question is “Where should be bury the Conservative and Unionist National Treasure for Baldric and his Time Team to discover and dig up and go “Ooh Aah” at?”

Does Palestine have a rignt to security and self defense?

Israel have recreated the Warsaw ghetto in the Gaza strip

AI ability to do great things with NHS data is hampered by the abysmal quality of that NHS data - sure detecting cancers, or similar are ideal areas, but more general application will be hugely difficult because the lack of investment and standardisation of information (yes worked with NHS data), Police date by contrast would be interesting. The irony of the AI summit at Bletchley given the treatment of Alan Turing! Sunak's flirting with Musk at the AI summit seems to be all about what he will be doing after he leaves No.10. And as to the wider issue of controlling AI, what seems to be misunderstood by many is that AI is plural, and the AI horses have long since bolted, and what AI is and is not is blurred and will be very difficult to define from a legislative standpoint (yes, worked with AI - but it's nicer in the woods)

Alistair Campbell is so righteous these days...not so when he was spin doctor and supported the illegal invasion of Iraq....makes me laugh that he talks of a plan ...check your own actions Alistair

I'm starting to think Keir Starmer might be the right man. he is standing his ground and not giving in to pressure

@Rory Stewart i see you admire Quran/Arabic calligraphy, nice picture frame in the background 👌🏽

😰Crime doesn’t justify another Crime!

-„amazing tunnel network“ ?

Is he really describing Alistair Campbell as being on the left? 😂 ..He's centrist at best, and a warmonger.

In a future podcast, could you address Hamas’s 2017 charter? I didn’t understand it. It seems to say that it will respect the 1967 borders but also says from river to sea Palestine will be free, like the slogan that’s repeated so much in recent weeks. Either way it looks like Isrsel never accepted that update to the 1988 Charter. I would like to better understand what Hamas stands for and what their charter or goal is (prior to Oct 7th and now, if different). Is it the abolition of Israel? Is it against ALL Jews or just Jews in Palestine? Is it’s problem the Jewish faith or just the Israelis who are occupying Palestine (to whatever borders they regard Palestine to be)? The Israeli ambassador recently said at the UNSC that « Hamas Nazis » are trying to rid the world of all Jews, ie trying to implement a genocide of Jewish people like the Nazis did with their « final solution » and holocaust. While Hamas ‘s Oct 7 attack is a terrorist attack, I had understood Hamas intention is to reclaim Palestinian land (and that I understood to mean all UN recognized Israeli lands as well as occupied Palestinians lands and essentially a return to 1947 borders) and not to recognize at all the state of Israel, but that there was no intention to remove Jews from those lands, or any lands beyond what they view as Palestine. It would be good to understand better the ´official’ stance of Hamas and has it veered much from the 2017 charter and update to 1988 charter? Also, where can we refer to to understand the Zionist charter? Or the ´Zionist Project’ (as referenced in Hamas 2017 charter)? And where would we refer to for the written charter or intention of the state of Israel (prior to Oct 7th)? I really don’t think the Israeli Ambassador should be using the phrase « Hamas Nazis ». Because Hamas are not members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party and I also don’t believe they’re trying to enact a « final solution » to rid the world of Jews as the Nazis were, and I don’t believe Hamas are trying to take over other countries , but rather just trying to get back lands that were Palestinian prior to 1948. That said, the 1988 charter actually did target all of Judaism and called on arabs, Islamic people and Palestinians alike to join in Hamas’s cause, using jihad. 2017 charter didn’t have those radical elements. So, I’m just trying to better understand who is trying to achieve what, and what they think the other side is trying to achieve. And better understand the difference between Hamas and the Palestinian people, and difference between State of Israel and Zionists. It seems complicated because for each ´side’ there may be what was stated in the past, what they state now, what they actually think and act upon, and then what the other side think they actually want/act upon. From what I can tell, the Israeli Ambassador’s comments to the UNSC would indicate he believes Hamas are following their 1988 charter. Is Israel completely ignoring the 2017 updated charter so they can continue a narrative that Palestinians support Hamas who wants to rid the world of Jews? To justify their actions and oppression of the Palestinian people for decades? I just don’t understand how the Israeli ambassador can say the things he said in the UN in regards to « Hamas Nazis » wanting final solution for all Jews , cos they seem completely inaccurate based on the 2017 updated charter: is that what they really believe or just a narrative to spin? Most of all I’d really like to understsnd what the 2017 charter actually meant because I was confused by it. Sorry for the long question but I really hope you read this and talk about this subject on your podcast! I do think it’s very important especially with so much recent use of the slogan « from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free »….is that really indicating support for Hamas terrorist acts? I’m not sure that anyone even knows what that means to different people…like I’m not sure if people réalise why they can be seen to be so inflammatory to some people who might think it’s pro-Hamas and condoning the acts of Oct 7th. So clarity on that would be very useful I think. Thank you! I really appreciate your podcast and so glad I found it.

The British public deplore what Israel is doing. The least Starmer can do is start talking about a ceasefire. How did we ever let Israel start invading Palestine and just say nothing. It let them see how far they can push which is apparently as hard as they want.

You should get an Ex Israeli veteran on your show. Like Bennet or other. They can answer all questions. How buildings are chosen at war and much more. You provided a great questions now please give us some answers.

Listening to Alistair Campbell talk about potential war crimes is sickening. The levels of hypocrisy are astounding.

camera angles are criminal

Rory, I've got a lot of respect for you, but please don't misquote / misinterpret what Andy McDonald actually said.

Surely you saw this situation escalating when you were reiterating Israel's right to defend itself. What form did you think that would take, given there was a humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the West Bank before Hamas's devastating attack?!

I actually hear a lot of explanations of why targets are being hit. But remember, it's an ongoing conflict, many things are top secret.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Rory discuss please. KJT

Commenting on Rory's point made at 47:40 Re: Starmer being in trouble with Muslim voters. In my opinion the approach to foreign policy that the next PM of Britain takes cannot, and should not, be defined or swung or influenced by a minority of the membership who have extremely fixed and rigid views on the current issue, and that utterly misalign with the approach that our key allies take. I think a large proportion, not all, of Muslim Labour voters seem to demand a stance on this issue that is impossible for Starmer to take. And they will not be likely to change their view on that because the issue is so deeply emotive for a lot of Muslims. For Starmer to potentially alter Britain's entire stance and position in the region simply to appease a minority rump of voters would be a long term mistake.

It's more likely the Al-Ahli hospital was hit by a missile from a drone. It's disingenuous not to say downright misleading, that there wasn't a crater large enough to be from an Israeli rocket. The Hermes 900s, made in Leicester, can carry munitions smaller than Israeli rockets.and were in operation all the time. Also, there was a tweet from Israel, soon deleted, that claimed Hamas members had been killed, just after the attack.

They must hoping for Netanyahu to be back......... ???? Pls be cargful..... They r smooth talker..