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DIY Carbon Fiber Intake Manifold: Part 2 Making the carbon fiber plenum. 

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@SupercarSeany
@SupercarSeany 4 года назад
"just a guy in a garage" - certainly respect the humility here. Well done!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks!
@iantomlinson2254
@iantomlinson2254 3 года назад
Absolutley, its funny how the best workmen on youtube are always the first to point out they dont know it all.
@JamesBiggar
@JamesBiggar 4 года назад
You do phenomenal work. I started working with fiberglass and resin a few years ago. Lots of mistakes made at the beginning, but I've been quietly following your videos this past year or so and they've been helpful. I've built a few custom electric motorcycles during that time and have been casting the fiberglass fairing parts by hand. It's a lot of work, and waste as you probably know. You'd probably cringe watching it LOL. I hope to work up the nerve to try vacuum bagging someday. I use vac injection to encapsulate axial flux turbine stators, but that's relatively simple. Just a flat circle. Complex parts with compound curves and flanges to deal with is a completely different story. Anyway, just wanted to say that I appreciate the content. Your channel deserves far more attention.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks James. Give infusion a try. I find it a very reliable and simple process.
@sorenlandon7165
@sorenlandon7165 3 года назад
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@sonnydaniel9934
@sonnydaniel9934 3 года назад
@Soren Landon instablaster :)
@sorenlandon7165
@sorenlandon7165 3 года назад
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@sorenlandon7165
@sorenlandon7165 3 года назад
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@carchaeology8260
@carchaeology8260 4 года назад
I know im not the only one that gets excited when the parts pop out of the moulds, btw that manifold is a work of art even the parts that wont be visible
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
It never get's old! I love seeing the result of the labour.
@siem8160
@siem8160 4 года назад
This Volvo will be closer to a Koenigsegg than to any other car. I love it!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks - not even going to try to match that level of insanity!
@siem8160
@siem8160 4 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarageYou're very close and it's very exciting
@The-truth-is-valuable.
@The-truth-is-valuable. 2 месяца назад
​@ThrottleStopGarage Insanity? No. It's just done to a high standard. In my opinion, your work is very much the same as when they started out.
@jdcustomz
@jdcustomz 2 года назад
install a cathode grounded or can purchase a pulse device they use in Hawaii to keep cars rust free. seen it on a few customers cars usually Military as free to Fairy over. some kind of PWM frequency modulation thru the chassis.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
I'll try something when the time comes. At least this car will never see winter again.
@SillySalmon94
@SillySalmon94 2 года назад
Just learned that carbon and aluminum together with cause electroless. Have you experienced that?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
No issues as the adhesive has micro balloons that prevent contact.
@justintaylor99
@justintaylor99 4 года назад
I love how thoroughly you explain everything
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks
@perfectworldpat7053
@perfectworldpat7053 Год назад
How many layers of carbon do you think would be the minimum for strength?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage Год назад
That would depend on if your running boost or not. I did a little guessing with what I did and at around 3 mm thick - I think this could hold a bus.
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 4 года назад
So honestly, how much have all your composites cost so far? Under 5k?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
I have to make that video yet...I'll work it all out.
@MrFuguDataScience
@MrFuguDataScience 4 года назад
The joint for the two parts can be filled with a black carbon paste that has chopped strands. Ii adds strength also. Look at the Street Bandito youtube page it was about 2-3 weeks ago.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
That's what I was referring to - though I used the high temp epoxy and the chopped fibers as my filler.
@pocket5s1
@pocket5s1 4 года назад
as you were moving the camera around the part I kept saying "let's see that curve on the back side with the cuts.. come on... come one..." then you did and damn did it turn out nice! That's the kind of area that has always made me wonder how to make it look good. That adhesive you have coming is commonly used in diy plane builds for bonding parts together, namely in the wing ribs and wing strut, so it should be quite fine for yours. I'm sure someone might ask about the galvanic corrosion, but if you think about it, this isn't a structural part and second, by time any corrosion happens to the extent that it would cause an issue will be so far into the future as to not be a concern. Too many people make out corrosion concerns like that as if it happens and fails overnight, or even within a couple years. If I hadn't been through corrosion training (aircraft related) I might have wondered myself. The adhesive will also act as a layer between the parts for the vast majority of the surface area as well.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
It was nerve wracking to lay the first layer. The subsequent layers were easier to lay as I was gaining confidence and skill in placing the fabric. It sure was tricky to do.
@johnmckissick5038
@johnmckissick5038 2 года назад
Did you take any extra steps besides fillet wax to seal the mold flange, so it will hold vacuum?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
Nope. I'd use a little silicone sealant if I was doing it again.
@sigifredorestrepo1413
@sigifredorestrepo1413 3 года назад
Great ,amazing work. Please i need a catch can similar how the unit of your work . Where can I purchase
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
I built the catch can. I have to get a little time to get a video out on how to make one.
@Thee_Sinner
@Thee_Sinner 4 года назад
I have a question about the autoclave bit. To my understanding, it is simply a pressurized oven. If the pressure can be achieved by pulling a sufficient vaccum, would putting the part into a simple oven be anywhere as effective as using a purpose-built autoclave? I remember seeing something from the channel Technology Ingredients about making heating chamber/oven from just insulation foam sheets, aluminum tape, and a heat lamp (I cant find the video now, i think it might have been a tangent within a video titles something else). Would something like that be useful at all for curing parts?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Sure if you can keep the vacuum under the heat required for the epoxy to cure.
@rickjames8510
@rickjames8510 4 года назад
some autoclaves evacuate the air then pressurize with nitrogen. A they also run pre designated recipes to cook the parts at varying degrees per specific times. Your simplified explanation isn’t wrong, but some autoclaves are highly complex.
@iliketorockrock
@iliketorockrock 4 года назад
Holey crap that plenum turned out perfect!
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
PPL GLORIFIED by GOD7 thru SON & Me hve greatest laditude reasonable working run rate room, not baby sitting any more. Those still here working it out owed, near as I can tell no1 but Me more time will b under diff terms & run room just like life 10yr old has diff rules than 15/16, or 18yr old or 30 yrs old kick in the pants needed.
@toadjones79
@toadjones79 3 года назад
Not sure which is better: watching the evolution of this project car; or watching the evolution of your beard.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
LOL - I just had to get the hedge trimmers out. My COVID mask wasn't fitting very well.
@toadjones79
@toadjones79 2 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage car confirm. Mask-beard is not a good thing.
@ToolsOutsideTheBox
@ToolsOutsideTheBox 2 года назад
In high school wood shop we glued something like 4 sheets of 80 grit to a piece of smooth plywood. That way you can flat sand large projects. I know that some 2 part epoxies you can cut with denatured alcohol for few benefits. It extends the off time, removes moisture from the mix, allows you to apply thinner coats and virtually eliminates the risk of air bubbles (because it’s thinner and the moisture has been removed). Also it’s absorbed into wood easier
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
this is better cool neat tech I'm impressed w/it. This hobbie modeling thing could turn into real buss, ppl employed taxes paid but youtube whoring for beast corp & fictional beast pay & non employee of beast corp sale force & hving everything locked into 1 supplier shipper channel is ungodly evil, 1000x worse than hitler & ss. We r not down here to b slaves or whores for beast corp, or play things for elites or your fetch it burger work force. Empowering tech, I would never do it too tooo many steps but glad some ppl like this type of work same w/programmers. WILL B flattening youtube & your followers & videos & all of it wicked fiction, digital bs, so if still breathing U will want to hve copies of your videos. If u r still prt of humanity & content not deemed satanist filth u can reloaded on new pppl form platform. Deal will b radically diff than devil smack false elite rigged wicked shit like youtube. This is what I had for lunch pay Me & elite pay Me for script reading & we will bs it all to keep it going.
@PropellerPixMN
@PropellerPixMN 4 года назад
I have learned more from you regarding carbon fiber applications than any other channel. I love your freeform way of presenting the content, you include a lot of little tips that the other (overproduced) video leave out. Those tips are where the gold is. Thank you and keep up the good work!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Glad to help - a lot of tips are being passed along by me from a few very helpful experts I try them and pass them along. We're all learning.
@georgel5308
@georgel5308 3 года назад
Hysol 9462
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
most construction & weaker type prts has ribs or banding or stiffeners not smooth finish all the way around but carbon is strong. We don't want stuff in the environment made to forever last unless basic reuseable building block or only thing we can use rare case carbon needed, or it will hold up enough so that prts in junk yard won't stay there but b reused long lasting ti life of 2 cars ,30yrs sun baked apart.
@samuelmdouglas
@samuelmdouglas 2 года назад
Could you fill the void with water to help get the bag to push right into the mold when pulling a vacuum?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
You could, but it's not necessary. Once the air is gone from inside it conforms perfectly to the mold as it has nowhere else to go.
@samuelmdouglas
@samuelmdouglas 2 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage thanks for the reply mate
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
carbon smack has its place same as foam insulation grand won't mold or wear out or sag, but not much else foam bad carbon expensive & bad unless saving lives & building planes strong.
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
If the carbon fiber came in tape rolls w/just enough glue to place hold till u laminated it would b way easier to use. Diff width tape roll, or big sheets.
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
If they made PVC paint u could add to prts so they glue weld up prts quick & easy.
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
The whole u lose a day & peel off & seal up time deal is mega suck prt of equation. A box chamber vacuum vs bags
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
Some kind of quick clay or some such thing mold whack w/hammer out of mold & clay not able to really stick to it well.
@user-pd9vm9ts1o
@user-pd9vm9ts1o 3 года назад
MAn i wish i could make one for Toyota 2rZ motor !! help !!
@havasss
@havasss 4 года назад
Awesome job! The question is how much boost? Will you gonna pressure test before installing?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks. I'll test it to around 4 bar. Not planning on needing more than 2 bar.
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
some kind of universal shape like a puzzle piece for butt edges is a good idea, slide tap easy add after the fact to both butt pieces. U tape & weld seams & add slide tabs to b double sure won't tear at butt edges.
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
old plastic gutter pvc type material for repeated molds same prt, bc it flexes but don't break to easy.
@mmavcanuck
@mmavcanuck 4 года назад
Geez that came out nice. Time to start the project all over and do it in raw carbon! ;)
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
LOL - no thanks!
@hfranke07
@hfranke07 2 года назад
Wow, great video.... I can use all of your work in my project. That is awesome.... I am working on building a carbon fiber flight case. Thanks mate.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
Cool project - have fun.
@echobasedarksideplaystatio3162
@echobasedarksideplaystatio3162 4 года назад
I've had peel ply release issues using the cheaper kind, doesn't seem to happen with the peel ply that has the red lines through it
@Slayerplayer05
@Slayerplayer05 2 года назад
Did you post the Catch Can Video ?? With your new learned expertise of vacuum bagging, will a pump capable of pulling 22Hg be enough to do a fender ??
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
I have not finished that catch can video...moving on with the rest of the build. I'll get back to it - that was supposed to be something for a channel sponsor - then they pulled out. Now I don't bother with that nonsense. Maybe - I don't think that's going to be enough vacuum to get the job done. I live at a high altitude and can only get about 27". So there are some variables in play. The more vacuum, the greater the compression and that's what you want.
@themechanic6117
@themechanic6117 4 года назад
Amazing work. The manifold looks perfect
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 3 года назад
meagain....... the back face of the trumpets is really important, your face plate illuminates them.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Yes, and they were properly designed and shaped for flow.
@daviddetweiler7658
@daviddetweiler7658 4 года назад
How could I build a more basic mold that would be for NA use only? I have a 3 rotor RX7 that I would to build ITBs for and then do a nice big carbon air box. Im struggling figuring out how to build flanges without an aluminum base like that.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Just make a mold of the base part and make it in carbon. I'm not sure "more basic" is going to work for a part like this.
@zze86
@zze86 2 года назад
@18:19 that look when you made something way better than you thought could. That's real, non-scripted stuff right there or else you sir deserve an Oscar. I was always under the impression that carbon fiber needed to be cured regardless of whether an epoxy was used or not which is why I never worked with it. This was many, many years ago. Is this no longer the case and modern epoxies can cure just under vacuum?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
I'd like to thank the academy - LOL - it's just me in my garage as you suspect. The epoxies I've used are room temperature cure products but do gain significant strength properties when you post cure them at higher temperatures. I made a tent from wood and foil insulation and with a space heater was able to get the recommended post cure temperature of 80 ºC for 12 hours. All of my parts have been post-cured. I've also experienced no issue with curing outside of the molds but some viewers suggested that this could cause problems.
@michaelsteyn5325
@michaelsteyn5325 3 года назад
Wow, nail biting moments. Dramatic music didn't help either. On to part 3...
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
LOL - there is always unintended drama.
@oldschoolcars3318
@oldschoolcars3318 8 месяцев назад
Beautiful work. Commitment to work. Cant imagine the cost of all of the tools and chemicals to get yourself situated enough to be comfortable doing this.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 8 месяцев назад
It wasn't cheap, but I did commit to doing it and I'm glad that I did.
@R0yL33
@R0yL33 4 года назад
Great job. Pretty ballsy to mould the outside of the plenum, and hope the inside fits the aluminum flanges. I think most would've just wrapped a destroyable plug to make sure the i.d's were bang on.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
ID or OD - either way, you have to hit a dimension. The plug had a total deviation of 0.009" or less than 0.25 mm. Measuring is important.
@need_for_swede5612
@need_for_swede5612 4 года назад
This video played randomly, and I told my wife, that looks like a T5 plenum. This is to be the next upgrade to my t5, I assume this is for the Amazon?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
It is for my Amazon.
@The-truth-is-valuable.
@The-truth-is-valuable. 2 месяца назад
This is really beautiful. You can be very proud of the result. I hope to be as good as you when I eventually get the guts to make the parts that I'm going to need. Thank you for sharing.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 месяца назад
Thanks - I hope your parts turn out.
@Oratazana
@Oratazana 3 года назад
Dont use PeelPly, use perfurated film
@cmosDTG
@cmosDTG 4 года назад
From my little research that i did a couple of months ago i found that Sikaflex 292 is good for carbon to aluminum bonding
@kylechapman502
@kylechapman502 3 года назад
I'm late to the party here, but I have some experience in this area. First of all you have GOT to separate the aluminum and carbon. If you don't the aluminum will corrode something fierce. Second of all permanently bonding aluminum is somewhat of a black art. There are really only two ways to do it. The first way, which is how all of your aluminum aircraft are bonded together in the factory is phosphoric anodizing the aluminum - not something you are going to do in the home shop. The second is to buy a surface prep treatment that goes by the name of AC 130 from 3M. So for Mr. Throttle Stop Garage, this is absolutely beautiful work, but keep a VERY close eye on that bond, and don't be surprised if it separates in the future, especially after it gets wet.
@mndlessdrwer
@mndlessdrwer 2 года назад
Every carbon fiber project needs to have at least one carbon finish part, just for the shock and awe effect. It does look really cool, and if you put it in the engine bay, then it doesn't mess up your exterior aesthetics.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
That's my vision for the car. It's going to be a very nice addition to the engine bay...and I love engine bays.
@SLR-hn5yy
@SLR-hn5yy 3 года назад
I just subscribed the part you made looks like it was manufactured buy a complete professional
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Thanks - it was a stressful part to make (they all were) - happy with the result.
@gombogombosvren3629
@gombogombosvren3629 3 года назад
drop your all of using materilas pks
@ryno9732
@ryno9732 4 года назад
So a couple of holes or pockets where the carbin glues to the aluminium? not all the way through but as like something for the epoxy to grab on? That might prevent the carbon blowing apart from the machined piece ?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
The double walled nature of the glue flange should prevent any issues. Many epoxies don't have great peel strength but are fantastic in shear. So I've eliminated the ability of the joint to fail in "peel". It shouldn't require further modification.
@janatlmb2770
@janatlmb2770 4 года назад
Hey, BINGE WATCHED YOUR VIDEOS, THIS IS ABSOLUTE STUNNER. The skill you have acquired, incredible. When do you expect to ignite the engine?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
It better be next year!
@janatlmb2770
@janatlmb2770 4 года назад
Btw your videos are amazing, I admire your dedication Moreover the craftsmenship. Keep up the good work.
@pippadhiety228
@pippadhiety228 3 года назад
I swear I could hear the looney toons theme the whole time this guy was working... would you turn this guy loose in your garage with a gallon of epoxy and dye? hahahaha... it actually turned out nice though so what do I know. im finding out myself the more times I do this kind of thing the better it turns out
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Well - thanks...I think.
@MrBiddo
@MrBiddo 4 года назад
I suggest you drill recess holes through both carbon and metal parts where the epoxy can fill those holes and will be a mechanical locking mechanism also.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
I really don't think that will be required. Working with the various strengths of the structural epoxy and the flange design I came up with should not require further fasteners to work properly.
@AndyFromm
@AndyFromm 4 года назад
One day I hope to try some of what you've taught me...
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Cool - I'm sure it will turn out great.
@AndyFromm
@AndyFromm 4 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage i would like to do a bunch of panels on my thunderbird. How would you go about making a hood with cowl from a stock hood?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
@@AndyFromm Work out where you want to add the new part and make it out of foam (urethane spray foam works fine). Carve it to the shape you want and then build the mold from there.
@AndyFromm
@AndyFromm 4 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage sounds good. How about the under side because it won't be for looks?
@zachheindl8619
@zachheindl8619 4 года назад
I dont want to speak for him but you'll probably have to make it in two parts, make a plug/mould from the underside of the hood around the area of the cowl, and if you want to strengthen the cowl, make some struts or something to epoxy into the cowl. So in other words I'd make a whole underside then cut for where the cowl is and go from there.
@jonsmiff2964
@jonsmiff2964 3 года назад
Is Throttle Stop Garage situated near or does it have any association be it direct or indirect with that very clever mechanic at Ichiban Moto ? :-)
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
None at all.
@larrya.4647
@larrya.4647 3 года назад
25:13 that’s what she said lol couldn’t help it
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 3 года назад
the over lapping is important and i guess you have 10 times more surface area. Still
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Hoping it all works out.
@AntiVaganza
@AntiVaganza 3 года назад
Wait, you're not bagging the whole mold? Are the flanges really airtight? I could certainly be wrong but ideally wouln't you wanna bag the whole mold? Did you do a leak-down test before infusing? [EDIT] Ah, you're using the wax as a sealant. I'm honestly amazed with how well it worked. Great looking parts.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
I'd seal it next time with some caulk instead of the wax. I always do a leak-down on my molds. This one held full vac for days.
@AntiVaganza
@AntiVaganza 3 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage Gotcha, thanks for elaborating and as long as it works. I think I only seen people use full bags before but knowing you can get around that is always good.
@ttsupra87
@ttsupra87 2 года назад
So slick man. Did you cnc that plenum flange? Or send the file off
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
It was sent off for machining.
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 3 года назад
The whole mold deal is crazy, aluminum foil release dirty & fast & recyclable not foam bad for earthly- heavenly work in progress home.
@exiledguardian5862
@exiledguardian5862 4 года назад
Can a carbon fiber withstand the heat if its turbo manifold lets say like if its for T66 turbos?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Sure - I see no reason that this won't work. Plastic intakes are everywhere.
@ErikvonStahl
@ErikvonStahl 4 года назад
I have a CF intake on my 1989 M3. It looks like they airbrushed the seams with black paint before applying the clear coat. It hides them well enough. Maybe give that a try. Your parts do look great and since you have put in so much work already... I have been enjoying watching for awhile and I finally subscribed. Thank You!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
I think once I've sanded the chopped carbon and resin I used to fill the small gaps that I won't have to do much more to "hide" the seam.
@caveone-365
@caveone-365 Год назад
Can I have your S14 plz? K thx 😂
@trenchtown69
@trenchtown69 3 года назад
I can't help thinking that you're leaving money on the table. The Amazon is a loved car, and there are more people wanting those carbon parts. Shipping's a bitch, but set up a simple website, do the SEO and wait for those longail orders coming in.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
I'd sell fewer than 5...I know this because I've been involved in the community for a long time. Sweden has them if people want stock parts.
@trenchtown69
@trenchtown69 3 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage Ahhh - of course. Those Swedes...
@chrispickard3337
@chrispickard3337 4 года назад
I don't really think you need it in your current application, bonding the aluminum flanges to the carbon manifold but just for future reference.. In aviation we place scrim cloth between the two surfaces when bonding metal to composite or metal to metal to prevent to much squeeze out. Love your channel!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
This has been a source of concern Chris. I've tried to talk to Henkle-Loctite Aviation and I can't get them to pick up the phone. I tried for a week and just gave up. My local rep (they don't sell the aviation adhesive) explained that his engineer didn't think it would be a problem as their "consumer" grade adhesive with similar chemical properties would be fine without a fiberglass veil application. A viewer sent me the Hysol 9493 - he's in the composite repair business and was not concerned. So any information you have - please feel free (I'm on instagram - DM me there).
@chrispickard3337
@chrispickard3337 4 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage i sent you some information via your Instagram!
@fajarfjr1726
@fajarfjr1726 4 года назад
why not using unidirectional carbon inside twill carbon ?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Because it's hard to lay in compound curve.
@Micah_Makes
@Micah_Makes 4 года назад
3D print yourself a bellmouth nozzle for the shop vacuum. It'll due much better than that narrow nozzle. Aside from that, the parts look absolutely killer! Nice work.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Why do I never come up with these solutions? Brilliant. Now that I'm basically done with making CF parts for the car!
@Micah_Makes
@Micah_Makes 4 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage hahaha well I guess a found the channel a little too late. My apologies. Still could be a decent video/shop tip to demonstrate for the guys following the build.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
@@Micah_Makes I was thinking I have a lot of bodywork to do and will design a vacuum attachment for when I do that sanding.
@benheynen2705
@benheynen2705 3 года назад
Awesome parts. Can you put the whole thing in a big bag and not have to worry about pleats?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Nope...the bag isn't going to stretch without the extra material. You could envelope bag it for sure, but the bag will still be very big.
@cyberblade6669
@cyberblade6669 4 года назад
Why i use silicone bags
@tonyharris3205
@tonyharris3205 3 года назад
Totally blown away at your end results! Kudohs!!!!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Thanks - it did turn out well.
@peterwooldridge7285
@peterwooldridge7285 4 года назад
Luv it.....Think Wagner was a good choice for the epic unwrapping
@luxurygeneration407
@luxurygeneration407 3 года назад
Do you make custom air intake manifold. For any car.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
No sorry - I'm just a guy working on my car.
@soyo
@soyo 11 месяцев назад
Compressed air helps to remove the Peel ply, great work!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 11 месяцев назад
Great tip!
@joell439
@joell439 4 года назад
👍👍😊👍👍
@storm4710
@storm4710 4 года назад
Well done Would have done a 3 piece mold though (with the front being a separate piece)
@TheBigbadwhitey
@TheBigbadwhitey 5 месяцев назад
As a fellow Canuck, where the hell did you manage to find the fileting wax?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 5 месяцев назад
I imported it from the UK. I haven't found a Canadian source for most of these things.
@TheBigbadwhitey
@TheBigbadwhitey 5 месяцев назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage I can find it on Amazon for 50CAD or order from the UK for about 5$ Feelsbad
@terrycarter8929
@terrycarter8929 4 года назад
Are you gonna make the complete car out of carbon fiber?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Nope, not the entire car.
@daviddickmeyer5231
@daviddickmeyer5231 4 года назад
Many years ago I worked with Dr. Windecker the designer and builder of the Windecker Eagle airplane. I was working on the experimental International Harvester plastic Scout SSV. We found through testing that when you have to fasten to aluminum using epoxy that it helps to sand the wet epoxy into the aluminum using 80 to 100 grit cloth backed sandpaper. A much tighter bond is achieved when doing this. We were using that process to adhere the aluminum grommets to the epoxy/glass body. We found that when doing our crash tests we had a much higher success rate of not pulling the mounts out of the body. You may want to try this on your plenum. I’m really enjoying the series and your build. Great work! Thanks!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Very interesting David. I've got the cloth backed 80 grit. I may try that.
@cantgoslow
@cantgoslow 3 года назад
Nice video, I'm about to do a manifold myself for the first time so looking for any tips and tricks. To be fair to easy composites though-- they don't have an autoclave and have never used one in any of their videos. They just do vacuum bagging and an oven
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
I wasn't criticizing them or anyone specifically. There are prepreg methods that would make this part easier to do for sure.
@cantgoslow
@cantgoslow 3 года назад
Well, I've done a 180° on easy composites. I contacted their tech dept for advice on a good strong material for my plenum and they came back with ill informed rubbish. According to them carbon manifolds don't exist! Fuel and heat will damage the carbon, nothing exists that can be used for engine components etc etc. I had to point out that they were talking nonsense and included a link to the rather good Koenigsegg video showing their carbon prepreg engine parts and a photo of the BMW OEM carbon rocker cover. They came back with more nonsense about highly specialised materials that only OEMs can buy. Shame really as I was about to spend a ton of money with then, but I can't buy from someone that clueless.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Sorry to hear this...I'm not sure my manifold will work, but it's been done many times. I used a high temperature epoxy resin and I will add a thermal barrier between the head and the manifold. Fingers crossed it works.
@jeremiecountryman5165
@jeremiecountryman5165 4 года назад
Haven't seen a post from you in awhile, I hope everything is all right.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
I'll have an update this week. Work is insane and...well, it's an interesting episode coming.
@jeremiecountryman5165
@jeremiecountryman5165 4 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage I figured it was something like that. With this COVID going around these days you never really know.
@tuoppi42
@tuoppi42 4 года назад
Wondering about the aluminum/fiber connection - will fully hardening epoxy be in joint of dissimilar materials as reliable as rubberizing polyurethane glue? (Edit: subscribed. Excellent work!)
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
I'm not sure - but the product is an aerospace structural adhesive - so I'm guessing it should be fine.
@marcjordan29
@marcjordan29 4 года назад
So completely AWESOME.... you are making me think about doing my 04 v70R hood in carbon. Excellent work!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
That a big hood! Simple enough shape though.
@davidsean7043
@davidsean7043 3 года назад
Hi there, i have a few questions for you buddy. Awesome work btw! What program/software are you using to draw up the 3D prototype?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
I use Fusion 360 for my CAD work.
@huizdeeze1075
@huizdeeze1075 2 года назад
what glue do you use to keep fibers together
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
3M Super 77 works fine.
@peterjohansson7235
@peterjohansson7235 4 года назад
Thats One beatiful piece!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks.
@298CRE8
@298CRE8 3 года назад
This guy phenomenal I've contracted at Aston Martin and Bentley working on supercars and this guy is such a craftsman not alot out there doing this sort of thing themselves "properly or adequately" enough at least to call the car "customised" not like the usual hothatch sports model with different alloys exhaust and a racing stripe etc this guy legitimately makes everything he touches better. I mainly like how you reverse engineer everything you've done back to us not guessing at the time then saying afterwards "don't do this" you explain everything In full detail some of us technical people adore no extremely simplified "everybody cando this" type of project. Hands in the air and pray more are like you in the future from a mechanical engineer and keen garage diy'er 👍😉🤫 might be slightly medicated much love 🤨😁
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Thanks for the kind words - it means a lot.
@robertrishel3685
@robertrishel3685 3 года назад
So nicely done!! Terrific work! It must be so satisfying to produce such a quality part yourself. It certainly speaks to why carbon parts are so expensive. Beauty👍
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Thanks - it did turn out better than expected.
@ronplucksstrings7112
@ronplucksstrings7112 4 года назад
I may have also broken a sweat when you were wrestling with that bagging material, but your efforts and attention to detail payed off in a very pro final part! High compliments once again! I just recently spoke to a carbon fibre user who told me about a resin impregnated product (NOT auto-clave cured prepreg!) but room/elevated-temp cured prepreg, which is (must be) kept refrigerated and cures without an autoclave. Handling is otherwise similar with vacbagging required to form it tightly to mold, but the resin measuring and infusing steps fall away. Resin amount and saturation are always perfect because it is preapplied perfectly!... the material is more expensive (no surprise there!), but he tells me it forms and holds its shape into the molds very nicely with plenty of "working time", so is a pleasure to work with, and the upcost is totally worth it for the messy resin steps that simply fall away, plus ease of handling. ...just thought I'd mention it if you weren't aware of it...I can get manufacturer and further info if you're interested (I am NOT their salesman!...just interested in a simpler, cleaner way of getting into, and working with CF). Cheers
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks Ron. I have heard of these products but can't get them shipped to Canada until fall/winter as I can't guarantee that they'd make it without being shipped in a refrigerated truck.
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 3 года назад
stunning final project
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
Thanks - it turned out very nicely.
@RiazRJ
@RiazRJ 2 года назад
Love this, looks awesome 👍🏼
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 2 года назад
Thanks
@MrFuguDataScience
@MrFuguDataScience 4 года назад
This is legit! wow, great job
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Glad you like it!
@davidwinterbottom1942
@davidwinterbottom1942 3 года назад
Where are you getting the filler wax. I have searched with no luck. Awesome looking part you make!!!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
I got it from Easy Composites in the UK - shipping was silly.
@davidwinterbottom1942
@davidwinterbottom1942 3 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage How silly was it?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
@@davidwinterbottom1942 About the same price as the wax! It also took about 6 weeks to get to me.
@davidwinterbottom1942
@davidwinterbottom1942 3 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarageThank you for the info. Have a great day!!!
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu 4 года назад
For patterning complex parts, what also works pretty well, is directly applying (masking) tape onto your positive, finding your cut lines, cutting it of along those and then sticking it e.g. on aluminum foil. Pretty quick and you get very accurate patterns.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
That's a great tip...I hope I remember it when I have to make the seats!
@richm7936
@richm7936 4 года назад
Being that this part is going to be exposed to elevated temperatures, what are your plans for post-curing?
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Hi Rich - it's going in my oven for a bake cycle when done.
@richm7936
@richm7936 4 года назад
@@ThrottleStopGarage Are you concerned about print through or warpage due to curing out of mold? Must be a really slow cure cycle.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
@@richm7936 It's never been a problem before.
@fredygump5578
@fredygump5578 4 года назад
I just made patterns using cheap peel ply (white w/ red stripes). It will move/ conform to a curve a little. Once I had it where I wanted, I marked the edges with a sharpie. Then I flattened/ straightened it out, trimmed the edges, and spray glued it to some heavy paper to stabilize it. Also, end cutters/ nippers are great for getting that stuck peel ply off.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks Fred - I'm out of the cheap white peel ply, but that's an excellent tip. Makes complete sense.
@MegaCountach
@MegaCountach 4 года назад
Wicked job! Very impressive, thanks for your videos! Cheers, Doug
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Many thanks!
@gayshelley2677
@gayshelley2677 4 года назад
Excellent work again Craig. We use a perforated film between the peel ply and the infusion mesh. Much easier to remove, especially for me as im in my sixties and not as fit as i use to be. We sand our parts with 800 grade wet and dry paper and then spray three coats of clear to give good u.v protection. Ian in G.B
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Thanks Ian - I've got some Duratec Sun Shield Clear that will give it UV protection.
@zeroswings2
@zeroswings2 4 года назад
looks awesome... however easy composites didn't use an autoclave for theirs, just a curing oven for out of autoclave prepreg... I plan to get one of those ovens soon myself... other than that, awesome results!
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 4 года назад
Meh - either way, I don't have that tech and most other people in their garage doing one part don't either.
@magnusdanielsson2749
@magnusdanielsson2749 3 года назад
Really nice work! Looks amazing 👍 May I ask why you didnt use a ”inside plug” and laid the carbon on the outside? I didnt see episode one so maybe I missed that info.
@ThrottleStopGarage
@ThrottleStopGarage 3 года назад
It seemed like a lot more work than was required for this part.
@ajhartmanaero
@ajhartmanaero 4 года назад
Looking good!
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