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DIY: How to Test a Solenoid 

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My MTD Gold riding mower would not start. After going through testing the safety switches, I ended up on the solenoid as the likely cause of my problem. I removed the solenoid and this video was recorded as part of a series. The full diagnostics video for my testing process is available on my channel as well.

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@DXT61
@DXT61 Год назад
7 years later and helped me diagnose one today. Thanks
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
Glad I could help
@ericargento4429
@ericargento4429 4 месяца назад
Thank you for being direct to the point and solving the problem 👍👍👍
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 4 месяца назад
Happy to help
@PRMan1936
@PRMan1936 4 года назад
I tested the solenoid on my boat with a Ford engine and it did exactly what you described on the video. Well I should say it didn't because the solenoid was bad. Thank you for your help.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 4 года назад
PRMan 0611 I’m glad you were able to diagnose your issue.
@davidruiz5383
@davidruiz5383 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the informative video; you simplify the method of testing. Best of Luck and God Bless
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 5 месяцев назад
You’re welcome. I’m glad you found a helpful.
@janetblaylock7960
@janetblaylock7960 8 лет назад
Thanks for this video.. Your instructions were very clear and easy to understand.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 8 лет назад
Thank you for your kind words. I am a teacher by trade so I hope that is evident in my videos.
@derksen_deeds_done_dirt_ch4750
@derksen_deeds_done_dirt_ch4750 2 года назад
Thank you. Did this, and determined my solenoid was good.
@leblancch
@leblancch Год назад
I have what I think is the same solenoid on an old lawn tractor i'm working on. I was actually able to rebuild it. One of the screw connectors was corroded. I cleaned that up. I thought it was ok but still not working right. I was testing like you are with a multimeter set to ohms. I had continuity most of the time. I didn't realize at first my measurement wasn't near 0 ohms.. I ended up drilling out the rivets and took it apart.. there is a copper plate at the top that was corroded. I sanded that and the spot it connected to. When I had it back together and riveted again, I did the same test. The ohms were now near 0. I still have to try it back in the lawn tractor. I can post an update for everyone.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
Glad it worked for you!
@deborahcuster8142
@deborahcuster8142 2 года назад
i had an MTD Gold mower exactly like that one. had to replace the head on it the first time. . . the valve seat for the intake worked itself out. the head that arrived through the mail , was put on, then 2 seasons later it just zood over then backfired and it all went up in flames. kohler engines self destruct. good thing it was in an open field and not near the house.
@aaaaandstilllll_____9855
@aaaaandstilllll_____9855 2 года назад
Wow, dangerous!
@bslcouple
@bslcouple 2 года назад
Ok, but that has nothing to do with this video.
@billwilliams6338
@billwilliams6338 4 года назад
TIGHTWADDIY, 1.) solenoid coils uses a different type of wire that has "insulation" resistance on the coil wire or something so it doesn't get burned up when left turned on held on for a period of time? 2.) How do you measure the solenoid "Torque" to know how much the power of the solenoids release pushing out strokes to know how strong it releases the solenoids plunger?
@deborahcuster8142
@deborahcuster8142 2 года назад
if the battery is less than 9 volts then you will hear nothing from the solenoid . if the battery is 10 volts or just higher than 9 volts , then all you will hear is clicking. because that low of voltage will not turn the starter. it must be 11.5 or higher [ 12 volts ] for the solenoid to work properly for the starter to do its job. your welcome.
@Makaveli_AZ
@Makaveli_AZ Год назад
@@deborahcuster8142 on mine it’s clicking but no start. Battery volts is 12.3 volts Replace ignition switch and still no start but noticed after I tried after replacing ignition switch the solenoid was warm.
@jedediahbc
@jedediahbc 6 лет назад
Your video was very easy to understand and duplicate method, thank you for your help.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 6 лет назад
jedediahbc Great! Thank you for the kind compliment. Be sure to subscribe.
@osvaldobadillo3601
@osvaldobadillo3601 4 года назад
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@jimmartinez8977
@jimmartinez8977 4 года назад
Worked Great to test the solenoid. $12 later it was all set. Prior to replacement my Tractor suddenly didn't start one week after working fine. When i turned the key there was no sound. Apparently thats the clunk of the solenoid you hear.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 4 года назад
Jim Martinez That’s great! I’m glad the video helped you out. Be sure to subscribe!
@sharon314
@sharon314 4 месяца назад
May I ask you? I can hear a clunk when I turn my Starter key. So did you hear the clunk before or after you replaced the Solenoid! ? I Just am not CLEAR on your comment ?? I have a 3032E J.D with 144 hrs. ? Well anyway , it will not start ?? So the battery charger says it's at 12.1? Don't know for sure but I think that's okay?? So I turn on my key, lights on dash come on then after about 5 seconds I hear this big Clunk and the lights shut off !! ?? Would you have any idea if that means the Solenoid is good or Bad ?? I am not a Man! I t seems to me that all Men are born with "Mechanical Smarts" !! If you could give me some advice? Thank you ! Sherry
@richardcyr9728
@richardcyr9728 6 месяцев назад
Well Done! Easy to understand.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 6 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@job38four10
@job38four10 Месяц назад
Good info video and straight to the point thanks for sharing..........
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Месяц назад
My pleasure!
@jamescraig8601
@jamescraig8601 Год назад
Hi its july 23 of 2023 thank you. I'm going to go test my solenoids.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
My pleasure.
@jamescraig8601
@jamescraig8601 Год назад
All three of my solenoids test good. I have 12v. Going to my solenoid. It won't crank. If I jump a hot wire to the grounded post. It cranks over. Any suggestions?
@jdprice3043
@jdprice3043 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your help
@brockhinson6685
@brockhinson6685 10 месяцев назад
Thank you this video really helped
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 10 месяцев назад
Glad it helped
@riderr2035
@riderr2035 3 года назад
How can find the problem on my artic cat i put the switch on and the dash board not showing nothing battery is OK fuses they ok i guees .. But have a short then i replaced the bad fuses but screen not work is a 2007 artic cat 400
@Hosstyle.
@Hosstyle. Месяц назад
Well done
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Месяц назад
Thanks!
@Smalltechguy
@Smalltechguy Год назад
Good video. Too the point and explained what should be happening. i'm at that point now tying to figure out why this troy Bilt Pony isn't clicking or bumping the starter. It might be a safety switch also...just don't know yet.
@douglaswilson3653
@douglaswilson3653 2 года назад
My solenoid checked out as you said. Got it to click with the ohms meter but when wiered up it doesn't click ? All wires are working when key is on and peddle depressed transferring voltz to low voltage but no click??
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Did you try jumping across the solenoid with a screw driver to see if it starts?
@douglaswilson3653
@douglaswilson3653 2 года назад
It's on a 48v club car golf cart. No click 48 voltz comes from key switch to speed controller goes to 1rst micro switch then shoots 48v to the low amp _on the solanoid. Yellow wire to other low voltage Yellow large wire to big post Red big to the +.post.. No click
@rayranger8249
@rayranger8249 Год назад
Good video. I've just tested my 4 post solenoid and I get the clunk and contact but no continuity which I find odd. Any idea's please.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
It’s possible there is a crack in it and you need a new one.
@521farmer
@521farmer 3 года назад
thank you good goin keep it up Awesome work Been trying long time nobody wood explain so thats why Joined You
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 3 года назад
Welcome to Tightwad Nation!
@JOHNMINKA
@JOHNMINKA 3 года назад
when i couple up batter on pigtails it clicks then measure across the terminal poles i get .004 then it goes back to 0 is this dud then needs replacement?
@mrzif0013
@mrzif0013 4 месяца назад
OK, my 2021 onan generator has 12v power at the solenoid and no click, no fault light at the switch, just salience. Would be a bad solenoid on my 12hr run generator. Beats taking the thing out of the rv for repairs.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 3 месяца назад
That sounds about right. Tried jumping across the terminals to see if it turns over. If it does and you have 12 V at the solenoid and it’s definitely bad.
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 3 года назад
My multimeter has 6 settings in the ohms section, 200 to 2000k, and one with an arrow/plus symbol. Where do I set it for that particular solenoid, to test continuity ?
@deborahcuster8142
@deborahcuster8142 2 года назад
on most multimeters the section for continuity [ alarm ] is beside the 1.5 volt battery section. test it on yours to hear the alarm when you touch the tester terminals together, i believe you will find it.
@aaaaandstilllll_____9855
@aaaaandstilllll_____9855 2 года назад
Mine has a small bell with ))) after it
@465painkiller465
@465painkiller465 Год назад
What’s the point of having a 4 post as opposed to a 3 post?
@jamiesawyer5102
@jamiesawyer5102 2 месяца назад
4 post you hook a negative to one of the small posts, 3 post it pull negative from body of machine. 4 post can be mounted anywhere, because it is wired to negative, 3 post has to be on metal of frame.
@briandecker65
@briandecker65 3 года назад
Does the solenoid need to be completely removed from the mower to test it?
@damondiehl5637
@damondiehl5637 3 года назад
No, if you can access it on your machine, that is fine. It is just easier to do it on a bench.
@brucer1220
@brucer1220 2 года назад
there is not voltage to the top post because the bottom two connectors are not passing current to them.
@jerrydowell1660
@jerrydowell1660 3 года назад
on my mower i can jump the solenoid across and my mower starts it wont start by the key switch considering in 2020 i had the same problem replace my key switch and it worked
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 3 года назад
The key switch or the safety switches are the most likely issues. I’m glad you got yours fixed.
@lynnlard5531
@lynnlard5531 3 года назад
Where you getting the "click" when it failed to start? I'm guessing not, if a new switch fixed the problem. Although maybe an intermittent or weak switch circuit could still permit the "click."
@davehimlin2374
@davehimlin2374 8 месяцев назад
What if you hear the starter spinning, but its not engaging with the flywheel ? Would this be a bad solonoid ? Ty
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 8 месяцев назад
No. If the solenoid is bad you won’t get power to the starter.
@MJ-pb4eu
@MJ-pb4eu 2 года назад
I have the same solenoid but can't remember to which way the small terminal wires go on?
@frankdavidson9675
@frankdavidson9675 2 года назад
it does not matter if you have a 4 wire two large and two small rev two small wires -- no problem also rev two large wires no problem
@mikelingefelter863
@mikelingefelter863 9 месяцев назад
What would the fourwheeler do if the solenoid was bad and you tried starting it?
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 9 месяцев назад
It wouldn’t turn over, not even a click.
@MikeOrazzi
@MikeOrazzi 2 года назад
Thanks for the tip.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
You’re welcome!
@scottbyers1910
@scottbyers1910 Год назад
I took my solenoid off and now I can’t remember which wire goes to which post on the bottom. I have one white and one black :-(
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
Oh no! Face it towards you with the big posts in the back. The battery line typically goes on the left and the right goes to the starter. On the front two, the line from the parking brake goes front left usually. Mine are typically orange or yellow though.
@chasebaromeo1959
@chasebaromeo1959 3 года назад
I can't find solenoid on a 2003 ford expedition .its not on the inside fender well. Tell me where to look
@johncollins8304
@johncollins8304 3 года назад
Ha! I couldn't find the one on my mower. It was way at the back next to the battery and was a xxx to remove. But yours is a car and I thought they have a cylindrical solenoid piggy-backing the starter. Good hunting but presume you've found it now.
@davidtravis1367
@davidtravis1367 2 года назад
What dose it mean if u hook up your postistive and the positive one sparks
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Loose connection.
@davidtravis1367
@davidtravis1367 2 года назад
@@TightWadDIY yeah it sparked on me and messed up the battery termal
@tattedvet8355
@tattedvet8355 2 года назад
Would a bad solenoid drain my battery.... What would constantly drain my battery?
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
A solenoid doesn’t consume power so it wouldn’t drain it. Your lights would.
@dutchleussink156
@dutchleussink156 Год назад
Thank you
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
My pleasure.
@nolanritchie9761
@nolanritchie9761 Год назад
How do i know how many volts to give my solenoid. Its for a fridge water valve
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
Sorry I’m not really sure what type of regulator it might have.
@jwaynecarroll1436
@jwaynecarroll1436 6 лет назад
GRREEAAT VIDEO!! as I'm about to go try this now, my issue or question Is how much trouble did you have getting the old one out and the new one in? its really in a tight spot on my craftsman made by mtd
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 6 лет назад
J WAYNE CARROLL I won't sugar coat it. Removing this thing was a pain in the butt on my MTD. On my Cub Cadet it was easy though.
@bslcouple
@bslcouple 2 года назад
@@TightWadDIY On my cub cadet, it doesn't look easy, any suggestions!
@derekobidowski3301
@derekobidowski3301 3 года назад
it be for any external starter solenoid lawn tractor, some tractors and all Ford vehicles the best solenoid to use if it goes bad be a good quality Cole Hersee 3 or 4 post solenoid depending on the application of the lawn tractor as this Cole Hersee metal body solenoids will replace these plastic Trombetta solenoids in these lawn tractors and riding mowers and zero turns. Some engines the solenoid is mounted on the starter motor. which that in addition to closing the contacts it moves the pinion gear to mesh with the flywheel ring gear.
@johncollins8304
@johncollins8304 3 года назад
What I don't understand is how these wee small ones lever up the bendix pinion; well they obviously don't so what sort of starters are on such motors and what pushes up the bendix?
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 3 года назад
Mine clicks but no power is going from one side to the other when activated. Strange but something failed.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 3 года назад
That is very odd. Fortunately, they aren’t too expensive.
@1959in
@1959in 6 лет назад
I'm sure that a 4 post solenoid doe's not ground to the frame or body, at least my simplicity does not.
@91GT347
@91GT347 Год назад
Old comment but for future readers. It does use the mounting points as a ground. There is no negative post. You have 2 large posts. One directly from the battery. The other to the starter. Two small posts. One from the ignition switch. The other sometimes goes to a coil or ballast resistor or Its usually not used. A four pole thats mounted directly on the starter, may have a ground wire.
@danno5805
@danno5805 2 года назад
Thanks 👍
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
You’re welcome!
@graemewood1216
@graemewood1216 Год назад
Perfect thanks 👍
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
You’re welcome!
@normanbfifteen3468
@normanbfifteen3468 2 месяца назад
could you use a 9 volt battery instead?
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 месяца назад
I don’t think that will work.
@Z-Ack
@Z-Ack 2 года назад
But if the connection internally is not 100% than you wont be getting 100% of the charge to the starter so could still be bad if its engaging..
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Are you sure about that?
@hanscloss4063
@hanscloss4063 3 года назад
short and clear
@465painkiller465
@465painkiller465 Год назад
Thank you!
@willf5768
@willf5768 Месяц назад
How about checking one on the tractor?
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Месяц назад
Same concepts apply.
@nonaubiz8939
@nonaubiz8939 6 лет назад
Very helpful, thanks.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 6 лет назад
Nona Ubiz You are welcome. Thank you for taking the time to comment. Be sure to subscribe.
@fritzj6803
@fritzj6803 4 года назад
Great video, but having continuity doesn't necessarily mean the solenoid is good. You also have to check the resistance
@frankdavidson9675
@frankdavidson9675 Год назад
read my comment above
@jtp1389
@jtp1389 Год назад
​@@frankdavidson9675 shut up
@felonebike9859
@felonebike9859 Год назад
What happens when you get the click but no continuity?
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY Год назад
I’d replace it. Not sure how that is happening though.
@felonebike9859
@felonebike9859 Год назад
@@TightWadDIY I ordered it today.
@bomark2002
@bomark2002 6 лет назад
just listen to it to see if it clunks when yu put the battery to it
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 6 лет назад
bomark 2002 You are correct. The multimeter was more for visual representation. The click or clunk let’s you know the magnets are connecting the two posts.
@PedroPerez-vn3xd
@PedroPerez-vn3xd 4 месяца назад
👍👍👍👍👍
@ghulabkhan762
@ghulabkhan762 2 года назад
Good morning
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Good morning to you.
@carlthornton3076
@carlthornton3076 3 года назад
Very Good!..
@09fatbobmike
@09fatbobmike 3 года назад
Should the 2 small posts have continuity between the 2 of them?
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 3 года назад
no, one is negative. one is positive. They cannot both be the same . Other wize fire works!
@lynnlard5531
@lynnlard5531 3 года назад
I think you're wrong there, RC Hobbyist. The two small posts represent the two ends of one continuous coil wire. When the switch (i.e. start switch) is turned/pushed (whatever) then one end of that coil wire becomes positive relatively to the other end and a current flows through, creating an electro-magnet. But they're essentially just the two ends of ONE wire/coil. The two big posts have no continuity UNTIL that electro-magnet is energized by turning the start switch, at which time they now have continuity. I'm no professional, but that's how I understand solenoids function. If I'm wrong, somebody correct me.
@misterbulger
@misterbulger 10 месяцев назад
Will it click if its bad?
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 10 месяцев назад
Not typically.
@g.alistar7798
@g.alistar7798 3 года назад
My local electrical shop will test solenoids, starters, generators and most electrical components for free. 24 hour turn around.
@coreywallace3239
@coreywallace3239 2 года назад
My tractor has a 15 hourse kohler engine n won't charge battery
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
The alternator charges the battery.
@jefegarpez6505
@jefegarpez6505 6 лет назад
Does this apply to a 48volt solenoid? Can I use a 8volt battery to test it?
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 6 лет назад
mario garcia I would assume the same concept would apply but you would need something with 48volts to test it.
@jefegarpez6505
@jefegarpez6505 6 лет назад
TightWadRepairs thanks.. Great video! Straight to the point, very helpful.
@heribertoalicea4733
@heribertoalicea4733 4 года назад
@@TightWadDIY espanol
@heribertoalicea4733
@heribertoalicea4733 4 года назад
Espanol
@1959in
@1959in 6 лет назад
send volts through the alternator? wtf
@robertcharlesworth1987
@robertcharlesworth1987 4 года назад
sends volts thru the starter.
@frankdavidson9675
@frankdavidson9675 2 года назад
let me tell you how to test solenoid on the mower turn key to start if you only get a click stop use a pr. of pliers short 2 big bolts on slenoid if starter spins replace solennoid this test tell you battery is good but solenoid is bad take solenoid with get same type so mounting holes and wire will fit if you rev. small leads no problem
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Yep.
@csnocke5
@csnocke5 3 года назад
Can’t see
@noahway13
@noahway13 2 года назад
I guess multi-meter was just for looks
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Nope. It was proving continuity.
@inquisitive980
@inquisitive980 11 месяцев назад
Just use a non contact magnetic field tester.
@carlolouisetti3204
@carlolouisetti3204 11 месяцев назад
Italiano no ?
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud 2 года назад
Can't be shocked from 12V lmao
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
You can but it’s unlikely.
@thatmanchan2414
@thatmanchan2414 9 лет назад
its called skillful dude
@21dolphin123
@21dolphin123 Год назад
U can’t get shocked from a 12 v battery
@daveward1484
@daveward1484 2 года назад
It's a sOlenoid, not a sIlenoid.
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Haha. You are correct.
@TheBenzer9
@TheBenzer9 2 года назад
Not helpfull all because I was drunk
@TightWadDIY
@TightWadDIY 2 года назад
Your loss.
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