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DIY Poor Man's Fiberglass for Teardrop Camper (PMF) 

Antoine Quirion Couture
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Here's an overview how to do Poor man's Fiberglass (PMF) on a teardrop camper.
The way to do it is quite simple. Some fabric glued with Titebond II waterproof wood glue in that order :
Side - side - Roof with overhang - Trim and glue the roof overhang.
Then paint with 4 to 6 coats of exterior latex paint.

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@aquirion
@aquirion 3 года назад
Here are my answers to the FAQ: Fabric : Canvas cotton is usually used. I had acces to large pieces of polyester for free . The finish is better looking i think, maybe less durable. i'll see in the future Body is made of good plywood for the side walls, and for the roof and back galley door : sandwiched thin luan between 2x2 studs (with foam panel for isolation) Glue : Titebond 2 is used. Yeah it's known that Titebond 3 is waterproof while Titebond 2 is only water resistant, but Titebond 3 does'nt glue well to itself which is very important in PMF , and the worktime is shorter. The waterproofing is made by the 2 heavy coats of glue and the multiples coats of exterior latex paint. Keep in mind it's only my personnal experience, i suggest you do a small scale test with some scraps before doing the the big process !
3 года назад
May I ask? : About the cost, sans the trailer.
@mmac4047
@mmac4047 3 года назад
Do a real performance test not just a sample. You would have been better off using automotive enamel paint on the plywood to glue the polyester fabrics and coat it afterwards with the same paint. The acrylic hardeners would have helped it and provide resistance to water intrusion due to expansion and contraction, and provided UV protection.
@PeterJames143
@PeterJames143 2 года назад
I see many comments saying titebond 2 is wrong and titebond 3 is right but when i looked it up myself i found a website saying titebond 2 is exterior rated, not titebond 3.
@MrIgottap
@MrIgottap 11 месяцев назад
@@mmac4047I like the idea of using enamel paint to finish top coats. The local farmers’ implement sells some very affordable tractor enamel that applies easily(roll, brush, or sprayer)and holds up amazingly well to the elements. It’s also very forgiving finish wise, it’ll go on some rough surfaces and still look good. I’ve personally used it on trailer frames with pleasing results. As long as it would adhere to the fabric used, a couple coats should provide a perfect coating for a camper skin. I think I would still use the wood glue with temporary thumb tacks to initially attach the canvas to the plywood though given that it’s made to be an adhesive.
@bathsaltZ
@bathsaltZ 3 года назад
Thanks for having a cool ass song and not talking for 15 minutes like the first 3 videos I just watched
@aquirion
@aquirion 3 года назад
Hey i've learned most of my DIY skills on youtube , i know what's anoying in a DIY video !
@bathsaltZ
@bathsaltZ 3 года назад
@@aquirion hell ya
@SuperCyril2
@SuperCyril2 5 месяцев назад
My uncle built a camper trailer 10 years ago and used this method to seal roof and walls. He said to use cotton fabric. It seals better than polyester fabric. He also said the glue isn't a big deal. Any type of glue adhesive will work on the fabric. What makes it waterproof is the multiple coats of paint that is applied at the end. He used exterior latex paint. Gave it 6 or 7 coats. This trailer is still leak proof today and is exposed to all types of weather.
@jeeper426
@jeeper426 3 года назад
this looks like how they used to do old aircraft, paint and fabric with glue, pretty durable if you get good adhesion, and avoid hard impacts to the surfaces, but backing it with ply should make up for that, pretty interesting idea
@natepalmer2448
@natepalmer2448 2 года назад
I watched your video as my primary reference to the process. I recently finished the exterior of my 5x8 squaredrop camper and am very happy with the results. Thank you.
@aquirion
@aquirion 2 года назад
Glad to hear that !
@thebaldingbuilder8400
@thebaldingbuilder8400 4 года назад
I enjoyed the video. I have been tossing around the idea of doing this to the camper I'm building on my own channel.
@leem200
@leem200 3 года назад
Nicely done. Looks great.
@MikeAG333
@MikeAG333 2 года назад
This video makes it obvious that the quality of the finish is dependant on the quality of the preparation. Here, all the un-faired joints in the ply shone through the final paint job like beacons. Time spent filling, sanding and fairing will pay enormous dividends in the end result.
@stevekeserii3935
@stevekeserii3935 3 года назад
Great job, well explained, thanks for sharing! Merci!
@mlangfordcamper
@mlangfordcamper 3 года назад
I am gonna have to try this as I have been using regular fiberglass on my camper builds, and that looks nice to have help doing that too
@aquirion
@aquirion 3 года назад
Great , I suggest you do a small scale test on a scrap thin piece of Luan or thin plywood. It will help you see how much glue you need (it is a lot )
@OOICU812
@OOICU812 Год назад
Just from watching this video I'm getting good vibes. Subbed.
@NikiGaliano
@NikiGaliano Год назад
Thank you!!! Great, simple how to video.
@lisaph6010
@lisaph6010 Год назад
thanks for making it simple and doable
@Yahoomediaclub
@Yahoomediaclub 2 года назад
Awesomely done
@JonnyDIY
@JonnyDIY 2 года назад
Sweet! Great job! 👍🤙
@eileenmcloughlin4778
@eileenmcloughlin4778 Год назад
Ok, I read your comments after watching the video. I thought you would have included the fabric material at the beginning of the video. Looks great. Thanks
@PeterJames143
@PeterJames143 2 года назад
Good looking trailer
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 3 года назад
Very nice. I always use oil based paint for outdoor projects except for the house. It holds up forever and takes fewer coats to achieve waterproofing goals.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 3 года назад
@ Only until it dries I suppose. Never heard of any problems otherwise.
@sipp5575
@sipp5575 3 года назад
@@joewoodchuck3824 You can wrap brushes, rollers used with oil based paint in alum. foil ,without cleaning them and put into a food freezer. They will remain ready to be used again with the same color for months.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 3 года назад
@@sipp5575 I've done that many times. Sometimes I discover a brush in the freezer that I've even forgotten about!
@shawnhenderson1130
@shawnhenderson1130 Год назад
Oil based paints and titebond glue will not bond properly
@theejoeylee
@theejoeylee 3 года назад
Titebond 3 is outdoor rated. II is only water resistant. Tite bond II failed on my patio chair after 1 year outside. It was also painted
@erikkrumm1192
@erikkrumm1192 3 года назад
Somebody mentioned above that type bond 3 does not stick to itself as well as the tight bond to which is critical in poor man's Fibreglass, so 8 to 10 layers of exterior latex paint is what truly makes it waterproofed
@jonboyway
@jonboyway 4 года назад
I think it would help if you talked a little about what you were actually using.
@MillionaireMakersCo
@MillionaireMakersCo 4 месяца назад
Use titebond 3 since it’s rated for outdoor use and waterproof.
@lucasblizzard7261
@lucasblizzard7261 2 года назад
What would you guess the weight reduction is from the wet glue to dry glue? I'm in the process of modifying the design for a pico-light and trying to drop the weight by about 50lbs to get it closer to 200lbs and I'm trying to get an idea of what the reduction in weight from the wet application to the dried finished pmf would be. As of right now I've trimmed about as much weight from the design as I can before waterproofing, and I need a weight estimate for pmf
@danemmerich6775
@danemmerich6775 Год назад
Do know if anyone has ever thought of using or used the Red Gaurd waterproofing paint that is used in showers for waterproofing their DIY teardrop?? Did you use canvas at all on the build? Did you ever think of using ACM panels on the outside?? Very Curious.
@bossman6174
@bossman6174 Месяц назад
So , now it's May 2024. How is the camper holding up? Any leaks ? Did you sell it or did it get into an accident? Stolen? Or is it the best thing you ever build? I am curious.
@indigo196799
@indigo196799 Год назад
There are many weight of cotton canvas drop cloth available. from 8 to 12 oz. Which would you recommend? The thickest the better?
@runawayfinancialslave2668
@runawayfinancialslave2668 4 года назад
Totally done the hard way.
@shamanic1
@shamanic1 3 года назад
So, what is the easy way...?
@OOICU812
@OOICU812 Год назад
@@shamanic1thats a good question.
@Robert-bm5fz
@Robert-bm5fz 3 года назад
so like a boat? wood covered in fiberglass and resin?
@ruthdoyle9085
@ruthdoyle9085 3 года назад
Latex paint works as good or better than the glue.
@reidonoliver
@reidonoliver 5 месяцев назад
What if i used landscape fabric and boat paint?
@showspotter
@showspotter Год назад
would rolls of PVC be good to pair with this glue? i hear of poor mans fiberglass but not sure what material it refers to
@AndrewStokes1966
@AndrewStokes1966 4 года назад
Awesome. Any particular type of fabric?
@aquirion
@aquirion 4 года назад
The common way to do it is with thick cotton paint canvas. I had acces to some large free show backdrop. I think it was Polyester. Some say that it might be a problem. For me it was okay, but it was the first time i did it !
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 2 года назад
Why don't you use titebond 3? It is more water resistant than titebond 2 and is still pretty cheap.
@deanlabayen
@deanlabayen 2 года назад
And this is fully waterproof? Did you insulate it?
3 года назад
May I ask? : The cost, sans the trailer?
@stephenandloriyoung5716
@stephenandloriyoung5716 3 года назад
If I ever make another one, I think I'll take a hard look at using Smart Panel siding for the construction, and not need to coat with anything. (it comes "primed", and can be painted,) I have it on my garage, and it's really tough and durable. It costs more than plywood, but maybe not much more than plywood plus PMF or other coating, and would be less work. Plus, I really like the textured wood grain surface, and the fact that it overlaps the next piece. I'd use the 3/8" thick panels, for lightness. I used basic grade 1/2" plywood for my recent build, and that made for extra difficulty and work. Make sense?
@mindfulyogaandartstl4488
@mindfulyogaandartstl4488 3 года назад
I like this idea. Would you use foam with siding over it or wood with siding?
@stephenandloriyoung5716
@stephenandloriyoung5716 3 года назад
@@mindfulyogaandartstl4488 I think my approach would be to frame it up with 2 x 2, glue and screw the Smart Panels to the frame, and foam insulate against the inside of the panels between the posts. Then finish inside "to taste". I used meranti, aka luan, to finish inside our camper, and plans are to paint it white. No urgency, though - can't go camping. All the best with your project.
@ej9147
@ej9147 4 года назад
So how durable has this been? I have to echo other's in that Titebond III is more for exterior and is waterproof and has a longer working time....... How strong is the fabric?
@aquirion
@aquirion 4 года назад
I've done it last winter , and I haven't had a chance to really put it to the test !
@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793
@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 4 года назад
Titebond II? I'll look into this. Nice job.
@The_Heartless_Empath
@The_Heartless_Empath 4 года назад
Titebond II is water resistant. Titebond III is waterproof. Just sayin.
@erikkrumm1192
@erikkrumm1192 3 года назад
It's like he said though, Titebond 3 doesn't glue as well and stick to itself as well as the two does, which is very critical in poor man's fiberglass. It's the 8 to 10 layers of exterior latex paint that makes it really waterproof
@mark-anthonyjarboe
@mark-anthonyjarboe 4 года назад
Love the innovation but I am curious why you used Titebond II and not Titebond III. Is there an advantage?
@aquirion
@aquirion 4 года назад
The problem with Titebond III is that it does'nt glue to itself very well. In our case that a major problem
@The_Heartless_Empath
@The_Heartless_Empath 4 года назад
@@aquirion It does if you apply the following coat while the last is still a bit tacky.
@OOICU812
@OOICU812 Год назад
@@The_Heartless_Empaththe other thing that he mentioned previously is that you have a reduced working time with "3."
@hsandv70
@hsandv70 2 года назад
What is the advantage of doing this versus shellacking or just layers of clear resin?
@johnle231
@johnle231 2 года назад
Cost Pmf = poor mans fiberglass
@iambeeman1
@iambeeman1 3 года назад
I honestly question if that's any cheaper. How many gallons of product used and at what cost?
3 года назад
Def cheaper... But wonder about the cost too.💛
@lucasblizzard7261
@lucasblizzard7261 2 года назад
Price it out and it's cheaper than glass for materials and labour. Fiberglass needs to be sanded usually as you transition from the coarse base coat. He probably used 2-4 gallons of glue and fabric is near nothing. So that's a couple hundred maybe 300bucks and less than half the work
@jonathansimmonds5784
@jonathansimmonds5784 3 года назад
Sorry, I don't get it, what exactly does all that glue and material do that paint doesn't?
@reidonoliver
@reidonoliver 5 месяцев назад
2 words: Damn!
@eikodunn
@eikodunn 4 месяца назад
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@RobertHarrisMIB
@RobertHarrisMIB 4 года назад
What kind of fabric? Whats the body made of, what are you gluing to?
@aquirion
@aquirion 3 года назад
Fabric : Canvas cotton is usually used. I had acces to large pieces of polyester for free . The finish is better looking i think, maybe less durable. i'll see in the future Body is made of good plywood for the side walls, and for the roof and back galley door : sandwiched thin luan between 2x2 studs (with foam panel for isolation)
@petuniaromania6294
@petuniaromania6294 2 года назад
Please excuse my ignorance; does exterior latex paint waterproof the fabric?
@aquirion
@aquirion 2 года назад
it's really a combination of the paint with the glue . the glue does strengthening and some waterproofing , but it's really the multiples coats of paint that seals it
@MuskratOutdoors
@MuskratOutdoors 2 года назад
So this video seems to be 2 years old. How well did this hold up? Would you do it this way again?
@aquirion
@aquirion 2 года назад
Still all super good ! Nothing to say . (it's stored most of the time under a cover ,and underneath a carport in the winter )
@MuskratOutdoors
@MuskratOutdoors 2 года назад
@@aquirion Good to know. I tried some fiberglass on something I built once, but it cracked and pealed off.
@beccapartin1038
@beccapartin1038 3 года назад
Any fabric?
@TexasGarza
@TexasGarza Месяц назад
How is the tear drop doing now? Is it still water proof?
@aquirion
@aquirion Месяц назад
Yes ! No issue at all ! I did do a new coat of paint last summer
@chrisconnor7654
@chrisconnor7654 4 года назад
How much glue did it take overall
@aquirion
@aquirion 4 года назад
I think i've used 5 gallons in total for the build. I'd say around 3.5 gallons just for PMF. But my teardrop is on the large side
@chrisconnor7654
@chrisconnor7654 4 года назад
@@aquirion awesome thank you for the response
@blowme5150
@blowme5150 3 года назад
Why not use some truck bed coating or oppoxy?
@steadmanuhlich6734
@steadmanuhlich6734 2 года назад
Here is a video that shows some possible problems with using Raptor Liner on plywood (on a teardrop). This is not my video, so ask the producer more. I just saw this last night and saved the link. 6 Mistakes Building my Micro-Camper ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VU0YjQ5PDc8.html
@tomkelly3896
@tomkelly3896 Год назад
That would last about 2 seasons in az sun and heat.
@bens1019
@bens1019 3 года назад
That glues cheaper then resin??
@bryanhersman4037
@bryanhersman4037 3 года назад
a gallon is like $18 at Lowes. It's less expensive than paint. Edit, I'm talking the glue, not resin
@Alan-yd5pc
@Alan-yd5pc 3 года назад
Fiberglass resin is roughly $40-$50/gallon.
@irishclown66
@irishclown66 4 года назад
What is the fabric ......
@aquirion
@aquirion 4 года назад
I've used a large piece of Polyester because i had acces to a large piece for free. But the common way of doing it is to use thick cotton canvas. Usually painting sheets.
@jc136982
@jc136982 3 года назад
I don't see plumbers waterproofing bathrooms with Fibreglass and resin, If the structure is sound and you are simply looking for a waterproofing system this should be fine.
@Lindalkidd
@Lindalkidd 3 года назад
I don't know why anyone would use this technique when actual glass cloth and resin is lighter, stronger, more durable, better looking, and about the same price.
@patrickbodine1300
@patrickbodine1300 3 года назад
Expense.
@garymucher9590
@garymucher9590 3 года назад
Was watching thinking the exact same thing. Polyester resin and fiberglass material would have made it solid as a rock and waterproof all at the same time. Been there done that...
@walnutvalley636
@walnutvalley636 3 года назад
It’s literally called POOR mans fiberglass, self explanatory in that sense
@LuckyTown77
@LuckyTown77 3 года назад
Cotton sheets and titebond glue the same price ? Fictional story.
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 2 года назад
Don't be so negative with facts and everything. "Non-structural" polyester resin is like $40/gal vs $25 for glue. Save $15? Work one more hour at McDonalds and get camper that last 10 years, not 2 years. Fiberglass matt is also cheap as canvas. Would never build something like a camper externally from this material. However, inside cabinets might be ok. If you get free glue.
@feedfacedeadbeef
@feedfacedeadbeef 3 года назад
Looks like a DIY teardrop trailer. Great effort though!
@rrda5054
@rrda5054 3 года назад
Fiberglass takes any shapes. layng it on plywood angular shape... Why? You better use kevlar, may be it will be armor-camper;)
@simplyexisting1125
@simplyexisting1125 3 года назад
Kevlar loses its bullet resistant properties when you harden it in composite work. It loses its elasticity.
@rrda5054
@rrda5054 3 года назад
@@simplyexisting1125 The main message is "whay angular shape is using, if fiberglass takes any shapes?" About kevlar it was joke, but thanks for education.
@antennasbc
@antennasbc 4 года назад
WHy wouldn't you just use resin on this sides? It's way stronger and easier to apply. Plus Titebond II is only water resistant. Titebond III is water proof.
@kevinroberts5140
@kevinroberts5140 4 года назад
Your Standard fiberglass and resin will crack and start splitting.
@PeterJames143
@PeterJames143 2 года назад
why not just use fiberglass?
@eileenmcloughlin4778
@eileenmcloughlin4778 Год назад
You didn't tell us what fabric you were using.
@aquirion
@aquirion Год назад
Look at the pinned comment on this video : Fabric : Canvas cotton is usually used. I had acces to large pieces of polyester for free . The finish is better looking i think, maybe less durable. i'll see in the future
@leonardfoster2155
@leonardfoster2155 3 года назад
Tite bond 2 is not water proof 3 is ;-)
@thfi5294
@thfi5294 3 года назад
Titebond Ii IS NOT waterproof. Nor is Titebond III, and numerous other wood glues, they are water resistant. Even epoxy glue is only water resistant, admitted more resistant than most, but still only water resistant. But unless submerged for long periods, will hold up just fine, if done right.
@denniston13
@denniston13 2 года назад
Thats why they paint 3 coats of latex over the surface afterwards.
@aquirion
@aquirion 2 года назад
@@denniston13I've done 6 coats
@12vLife
@12vLife Год назад
Nice work! subbed. how is it holding up? What metal material or product did you use for the edges? is it screwed or glued in? Thanks.
@stephtraveler7378
@stephtraveler7378 3 года назад
Poor man's grammar in the title thumbnail...
@aquirion
@aquirion 3 года назад
English is my second language ...
@richardcranium4151
@richardcranium4151 3 года назад
Why are you calling cloth fiberglass?
@erikkrumm1192
@erikkrumm1192 3 года назад
It's simply being used as a cheap fabric that the glue adhere's to and then hardens like fiberglass, hence the term Poor Man's fiberglass,
@erikkrumm1192
@erikkrumm1192 3 года назад
Better than using just paint on top of wood as far as waterproofing goes
@nathanmciver6496
@nathanmciver6496 7 месяцев назад
Poor people don't build that! Poor people also don't make that!
@kevinrusso6849
@kevinrusso6849 3 года назад
Why not use the better product instead of this ?
@OOICU812
@OOICU812 Год назад
Maybe better is more expensive. This is called "poor man's fiberglass."
@tsuhuevang7779
@tsuhuevang7779 3 месяца назад
That’s wood tear drop not fiberglass
@ms.flemingspre-k5520
@ms.flemingspre-k5520 2 года назад
I have a dream... that someone could invent a lightweight hardsided camper that collapses. I hate the fabric pop up campers! Why can't the walls be of solid material and collapse????? Lightweight and transportable/removeable, no affixed to a trailer, but can attach to any trailer...??? Light enough for a small 4 CYL car to put on a trailer and haul...? What materials would one need to build this dream camper? Basically a shell, but two walls have lightweight windows in them? ?? ???? anybody??? Buehler???Where are my great minded inventor people AT!???
@alanfeil2900
@alanfeil2900 2 года назад
A bit late to the party here. This guy used Coroplast for the flexible part of the roof. It is like the real estate sign material. You could use styrofoam for the walls with fiberglass over for strength, and then use this guys idea for more headroom. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-af0eKiR12Oc.html
@curtjenkins8854
@curtjenkins8854 2 года назад
Um, they already exist. As one reference, look to Apache brand. If you want specific models, there's the Ramada or Ranger.
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