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DIY Sailmaking! (under $100). Sailing Yes Let's! 12 

Dominic Tarr
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Yes Let's (my Wharram Pahi 31) was undercanvassed in light airs. The plans showed a large drifter. I decided to make one from polytarp. This is how I did it.
My drifter is about 22m^2, slight smaller than the plan's 24m^2, but it was the biggest I could fit on the floor. Previous sail making experience was making a few small proa oceanic lateen sails (aka, crabclaws), and of course, doing some sail repairs. This was my first attempt at making a large sail!
I'm surprised how well it worked! of course, I'm more than interested in any suggestions you have for improving the sail. I've used it quite regularly. I'll make another video when I've had it for some times to look back at how it went.

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@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Год назад
This is pretty genius. I helped a friend of mine make a similar sail from Tyvek house wrap. It did very well. He acquired a little sailboat, I think it was about 17'-18' and he had only one old tattered sail that came with it, so we made some from Tyvek. I think it cost him about the same amount, about $100. I used to be able to buy these middle weight white tarps at the local flee market, a lot of boaters used them because they were white. But they would make an excellent light air sail, just a little heavier than the blue tarp, with a coating on them.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
thanks! yes I've heard about tyvek too. I recall you can tape, and the tape is strong enough that it doesn't need sewing! On my monohull one time I was sailing around NZ's North Island, and 3 days into what became a 10 day trip I ripped a long hole into my working jib. I repaired it using heavy duty tarp. I put a layer each side but probably didn't really need that. It made it the whole way and then back around the other side too.
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Год назад
@@dominictarrsailing Yes, thats correct. When we made the sails we used white duct tape. And we reinforced the clew with it as well. I really like how you used the webbing straps sewn in though. We didn't have access to a sewing machine at the time. If we had. I would have taped each fold and then taped the outside, opposite side and sewn through it for a more permanent configuration. I'm here to tell you that, the Tyvek sails were extremely strong and durable. And the material was very close to the same feel as a new set of Dacron sails. We actually talked about either spraying them or rolling on some rubberized coating like white elastomeric roof coating for RV's. We wanted to experiment with how long we could make them last. A new set if I remember right was about $900.00 for that boat, my friend said. So he had a target of one third the cost. Our plan was to first lay out the tyvek and cut it then use and adhesion promoter then coat the material with the elastomeric compound snd let it bake in the sun. Of course all of this was to be done after we had created the shape and taped it all. The Tyvek came in a roll 4' wide by I think 250'long, so we had a lot to play with. The mast of that boat was 19'3" I remember. I think the boat was an O'Day 17. Back then my favorite boat was a Flying Scott 19'er. But seriously if we had taped and sewn them, I have no doubt that we could have created several sets and used them for years. My buddy wasn't really much of a sailor, he was a powerboat guy who through some horse trading, ended up with this little sailboat. So he kind of lost interest in the whole experiment rather quickly, but I being a sailor saw it as a huge success. There was another elderly lady at our sailing club who created her own sailing Canoe using one sheet of Tyvek and a bunch of scrap pieces of aluminum and bits of used hardware from our clubs maintenance room. She made a loose footed Gaf rig. I helped her make the mast step and bond it to the bottom of the FG canoe, much like Roger Barnes little camper cruiser boat here on YT. Have you seen his channel? I've often wondered about making two smaller crab claws for boats like yours. I just love the looks of them on the Wharram's, especially the Pahi. Damn, I miss having a sailboat. I've got to get to building soon.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
​@@kaisailor1 haha yes I've been day dreaming about a crabclaw and I like the idea of a schooner or ketch rig. I have a theory that the pahi is inspired by hokelu'a. (given that it looks very similar, even down to the colour scheme on the plans, and came out just a few years after!) prehaps like this marshallese influenced A frame configuration ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gKDtgADVjFc.html (which is described in detail in this master's thesis! onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=90959240214B34E8!10930&authkey=!AJUhC8nay76xoMk )
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
I think it would be a faster overall to experiment with the crabclaw rig on a smaller boat first. like an old beach cat or tiki 21 or something like that
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Год назад
@@dominictarrsailing Oh no,I agree with you. Your boat is a bit big to be "experimenting" with complete sail rigs. Maybe during an off season, after your finished sailing for a little while. But damn, some crab claws would look really cool on your boat as you were zipping around the islands.
@alexforget
@alexforget Год назад
Great work, that’s what sailing is all about. I think most sailing have been corrupted by the racing/rich. Make some wind vanes that that goes directly on your rudder like the channel luckyfish and your are set. Also, pick up a small outboard, it could save your boat and your life, we won’t judge you.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
I have a windvane system in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DVCACnrmFVw.html unfortunately trim tabs not really simple on the pahi rudder design
@fitzmeister87
@fitzmeister87 Год назад
I make my proa sails from Tarp as well. Smart lowtech solutions are really satisfying
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
definitely!
@cbleslie
@cbleslie Год назад
Nothing says I make my own stuff like blue tarpoline.
@Artiz...
@Artiz... Год назад
Definitely keep them coming Dominic... Wharram's are all about affordability and ingenuity! Great to watch a 'boat' channel quite firmly situated in pragmatic reality! Thanks mate... always appreciated!
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
thanks! yeah if you are building from scratch, the rig and sails, if brought new, are really expensive. need a DIY sail rig to keep it affordable.
@zackariasthepirate
@zackariasthepirate Год назад
Nice! looks sturdy with all the extra reinforced areas. I have been making the Tarp n Tape sails for a while and like you said stow it away and you can use them for years! also there is the aspect of using the older tarp sail as a pattern or experimenting with shape before investing in a more durable fabric. I need to get a sewing machine.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
absolutely! hard to sink a lot of money on expensive fabric when you don't really know what you are doing!
@JuulCPH
@JuulCPH Год назад
Wow! I wouldn't have thought this type of tarp could handle the stress. For reference similar blue tarps from Home Depot have lasted about one year for me in full California sun so I guess that's quite a few hours of sailing.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
yeah! even if you were changing anchorage every few days it would be a couple of years at least. but of course, it's probably not gonna be out all day even when you are sailing.
@johnnyT428
@johnnyT428 Год назад
The Polytarp sail I made for my canoe is still going strong after many years. Like you say- keep it out of the Sun when not in use.
@hobocyclist
@hobocyclist Год назад
Blue tarp is the anarchist flag
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
hahaha yeah that's a good way to put it!
@mantenimientoreparaciones6916
Thank you for solving my doubts, your information is very valuable
@RoryL83
@RoryL83 Год назад
Great video thanks!!
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
thanks for watching!
@patrioticjaustralia4679
@patrioticjaustralia4679 Год назад
I've really been enjoying your video's.and have watched most of them I really enjoy your resourcefulness
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
thank you! it's great to hear that! there are more coming!
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Год назад
You can make the drifter sail out of the same cloth as your spinnaker. It's obviously more expensive than a polytarp but definitely better suited for the job.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
yeah, although nylon also is less UV resistant than polyester. You can buy ripstop nylon from aliexpress surprisingly cheaply, so I'll see how well this one lasts then maybe that will be next time.
@Aaron.deRuiter
@Aaron.deRuiter Год назад
Nice mate!
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
thanks!
@alfreddaniels3817
@alfreddaniels3817 Год назад
Great. First I used only the staysail and yankee, but as my confidence in the boat grew I started to use the drifter , Wich is actually more of a code zero genoa, more and more. Now I use it even with Bf 4+. Even pointing goes quite well as the additional speed helps a lot. I can imagine an even bigger sail, like a true asymmetric gennaker that runs to the very aft beam.
@alfreddaniels3817
@alfreddaniels3817 Год назад
The position of the sheet eye on the boat also makes quite a big difference on how this sail performs. Further towards the centre of the boat for pointing, further outwards for reaching and broad
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
Yes! Actually, the drifter is about the same size as the genoa from my 26 foot mono. I tried it on the pahi but not quite the right shape. Not sure exactly the definition of a code zero, but a genoa is meant to overlap the mast, which the "genoa" drawn on the plans does not. So I consider the drifter as the correct genoa.
@alfreddaniels3817
@alfreddaniels3817 Год назад
@@dominictarrsailing i went with my ‘ drifter’ to the sailmaker for a small repair and he showed his admiration for the smart design 👍👍
@alfreddaniels3817
@alfreddaniels3817 Год назад
@@dominictarrsailing you’re right
@alfreddaniels3817
@alfreddaniels3817 Год назад
A code zero is a flat asymmetric spinnaker. Larger than a genoa. As you build your drifter from a flat piece of sheet, likewise you may be able to cut one like this even bigger. Or two, nearly parallel, as they do on Volvo ocean racing boats. But be carefull, even a Wharram can capsize or break its mast ( beam)
@setkacagarro-blogspot-com
@setkacagarro-blogspot-com Год назад
Nice one,
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
thanks!
@orangespy
@orangespy Год назад
Dominic, you've done it again! Question - What duty tarp did you use? Light, heavy etc?
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
oh, good question. couldn't find a shot of the package, but pretty this was "medium" 105 gsm. It's definitely on the light side. I'd use heaver stuff if I wasn't making a specifically light air sail.
@bryrensexton4618
@bryrensexton4618 Год назад
👍!!!Awesome
@shinnosuke150
@shinnosuke150 7 месяцев назад
Aloha, what type of thread did you use to stitch it up? Trying to make my own but unsure of what type of thread I can use that is strong enough and can be used in a regular sewing machine...
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing 7 месяцев назад
Just "heavy duty" polyester, from regular sewing shop. very hard to break with your hands, looks the same as a regular thread, but only 100 yards on a spool. And I get the larger needles that are marked "denim" or "leather".
@shinnosuke150
@shinnosuke150 11 дней назад
@@dominictarrsailing Mahalo for the info! I will give it a shot, hope it turns out like yours....
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 Год назад
Nice work. Try just raising the tack to tighten it up.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
thanks. I think I may be able to get a little more length if tie the tack a little lower, and/or tie the halyard directly on, instead of via shackle. It looks like it's close... could also adjust rigging to rake the mast back a little more. Both of those easier than recutting sail, so will try them first.
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 Год назад
Or add a patch n loop above the tack to make a Cunningham down haul.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
@@markthomasson5077 good idea! That would be an easy change!
@robingraham6820
@robingraham6820 Год назад
I notice no dagger boards in the dagger board slots. Have you done away with them. That is what I did on my Pahi 31. I didn’t notice a lot of difference, but again I was never looking for that extra tenth of a knot or that extra degree to windward.
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
I have them (in storage on the farm) but I never tried them... it was just another job that I skipped before launching. Have heard several stories like yours... The other wharrams have a deep forefoot, which is meant to help with windward ability and tacking. That's why the pahi daggers are so far forward, is because it's ment to replicate that deep forefoot. I might try a more central leeboard one day. If it improves tacking it would be worth it!
@robingraham6820
@robingraham6820 Год назад
@@dominictarrsailing worth speaking to other Pahi sailors. I didn’t see much difference. I weighed up the potential for a marginal advantage that I was unable to detect against the likelihood of unwanted clutter up forward. I sealed the holes top and bottom and never missed them. But like I say, other more experienced folks may give you a different opinion. I traded down to a Tiki 21, sadly that has now been in dry dock for 15 years😢 By the way, I love the poly tarp approach to sail design👍
@dominictarrsailing
@dominictarrsailing Год назад
@@robingraham6820 hmm, I havn't encountered someone who uses them yet!
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