Great video as always! I am always leery of manufacturing recommended intervals, but I’m really leery of those manufacturers that say CVT transmission fluid never has to be changed and is lifetime. I call bs
Manufacturer's definition of "lifetime" = the lifetime of their warranty on the transmission which is usually 100K miles (or less). I agree, it's best to do a drain and fill every 30K-40K miles. It's a cheap investment compared to the cost of a new transmission.
Lifetime fluids is a marketing sales ploy. Lifetime according to the engineers. Dont wait change it check youtube videos. Change at about 60,000 miles or every 5 years
But it's true! It will last until the life of the transmission is over at 100k🙄 and then you can buy a new CVT 🤣🤪🤣 30k, 45k, 60k if you want a long lifetime one
@@peterkohler7259 he still at the dealer in Illinois? I'm surprised he has the time. Good info, but a lot to digest. Different kind of delivery. Ahmed isn't for everyone but for serious Yotaheads he's very good. I almost think he's like a ScannerDanner which I can't get into for the huge amount of technical SD puts out but Ahmed is like him with the amount of info.
I agree that this is a great community. I’ve asked thing here in the comments and people are always willing to help. I like to diy mostly everything on my 07 Tacoma.
I changed the cvt transmission fluid on my Toyota auris hybrid touring sports 2015 , and it has a different drain and fill holes , I got the Toyota WS transmission fluid , I changed it at 102,312 miles and I was glad it wasn’t the type you have just done, as this one is a bit easier to change , you just fill it back up till it comes out of the filings hole , the only job I am not confident in doing is the rear brake rotors and pads , as it has a electric parking brake , just hoping you will show how it’s done soon , nice job you do Peter.
Did my own CVT fluid change on my 2015 Yaris with 90,000 miles 3 months ago,£43 for a 5L plastic bottle,not metal can. Got the genuine Toyota CVT FE fluid here in the UK. No need to remove the wheel on my Yaris,as there was room under the hood/bonnet. 2.2L also came out of my CVT.
Great. Helping folks want to have good clean fluid in these beautiful machines. It took me twenty years and stern directions from my moto guru to understand, clean fluid is rIght.
Keep in mind flushing it all out with multiple drain and fills you will also be getting rid of ALL metal particles in the fluid which may not be good for transmissions of any age. The small amount of particles in the fluid will be a positive for the clutches and shifting. Drain and filling every 60k will ensure you a healthy transmission for many many years. After seeing my dad never change his transmissiom fluid in his Toyotas and them making it past 400k, I am confident any regular maintenance is great.
Hi Peter, 2 years ago I asked my Toyota dealer to replace the transmission fluid in my 2010 Prius but they told me they did not offer the service because it was sealed and would last for the lifetime of the car. When asked what was considered the "lifetime" of the car, they said it was about 120K miles, if I remember correctly. What a joke. I then found out here on youtube on how to do it myself and then did so. My manual called for Toyota Genuine ATF WS which as of today sells for about $48 US for 4 quarts on Amazon.
@@miriamvivo4279 Nissan does not say lifetime fluid. In my 12' Altima owners manual it says change the CVT fluid every 60,000 miles for regular service. It says if you want the upgraded service to change the CVT fluid every 30,000 miles. The Nissan dealerships will do the drain and fill and the dealership I go to it costs $240.00. NS2 fluid only for my car.
Hi Peter, great video sir. I just wish you could show me the hard part, lol, that is getting the cover off (visual step-by-step) that covers the FE 24mm bolt. You know, the plastic shrowd or rain cover -- it is most disgusting how they make this a mystery to the DIY persons, like me. Thanks Peter, I'll keep looking for this on your next videos, I hope you can show me how to remove this "thing". If you've never seen it done before, it can be very intimidating. Thanks, again!
Wow that's outrageously expensive. My friend and I used valvoline cvt fluid in his wife's 2017 toyota corolla about 9 months ago. The valvoline cvt fluid is only $27 a gallon at walmart but we had to drive to 2 different ones to find it in stock. Some have 1qt bottles too. They have castrol transmax atf/cvt which also has the Toyota fe spec on the website but we didn't use that even though it was in every single walmart. But we just knew others tried valvoline cvt and they said it was fine and it was fine for us. We test drove it to get some food and it was perfect. Had almost 60k on it. Fluid was nasty. Now I know why people call cvts junk. They never service them and they explode at 100k.i wonder if the cvt fluid price went up too like every other oil. Almost no automotive oil stayed the same price today. Motor oil is more expensive now from inflation it sucks.
Yeah, as long as it says, it’s for Toyotas TC or FE it’s fine and as long as it’s the same color as well.. that’s the most important thing because you don’t want to put purple transmission fluid in with red transmission fluid because they’re formulated differently
I had experience this type transmission cut type with a 2008 Nissan Rogue i recently traded it in for a 2012 Toyota RAV4. The rogue CVT transmission fluid cost about $20 a quart about 5 quarts. I changed every 30000 miles my preference. I clean the transmission pan and magnets. Transmission work well up to 130,000 when I sold the car. I think I took very good care of it.
Peter I change my transmission fluid every 30000. I had no problems with the transmission. I now have 236,000 miles runs good . I believe oil is cheap compared to new transmission.
I did this....change fluid, filter and gasket. I ended up replacing 4.25 liters. FE fluid was bout 120.00 US dollars. Adjusted level as direct temperature is critical.
I use Amsoil cvt fluid it meets Toyota FE standards I have a account with them I get it for 12 dollar a quart, am a diesel mechanic I like to change mine All my cars at 50k miles also I think it’s worth it to drop the pan and change out the strain u get more fluid out and u can clean the magnets and pan, my transmission still works just like the day I bought it, I do side work on cars and I have had a few Nissan’s with cvt’s and one customer the dealer told them they need a new transmission so they brought it to me for a second opinion it came in making noise and slipping and driving rough I changed all the filters the filter was clogged so the transmission pump was making the noise it wasn’t getting enough fluid flow so i change the fluid twice and it runs like a brand new car they couldn’t believe that they didn’t need a new transmission so I am happy using the Amsoil
My 2017 has 50k miles so I checked the fill plug first, to make sure states "FE" and that it will remove. All good. When I tried to remove the DRAIN plug, it stripped where the 6mm Hex inserts, and it was inserted all the way. Now I have to buy a new one first and then figure out how to remove it. Probably have to remove the whole pan first. I did buy a new filter anyway.
Brother thanks for all your videos, it is really impressive. One question from me - What is the difference between the CVT Fluid FE that comes in the Red can vs the purple can. Both are the same?
Awesome video, feel the same way do my wife's crv every 40 000 miles first time drain and fill, drive about a week and did another drain and fill. Just feels better
Thank you Peter. Very helpful. For my 2011 Sienna I had Toyota dealer service dept take care of it. I don't have a lift to use. Maybe I'll try the next one at 200k. miles. They had a long narrow funnel on Amazon that I used for my 09 Forester transmission fluid change. Take care Peter. Any sign of some Perogis on the menu in California where Hollywood will sell you Californication :) Rock on California prophet on the burning shore..
Graet video. I need an advice about by Toyota Auris hybrid 2013. I bougt it at 260k km, and I dont know its history whether CVT is ever changed. I am willing to do it, but is there a risk ?
Hi, I’m curious from what year did Toyota Corollas start using cvt transmissions? Was this an option or did they all start using this type of transmission?
Thanks Pete for your video. Would you know if the current model Corolla hatchback, would have the same procedure to change the CVT fluid or is that CVT truly sealed up, such that it is impossible to open? Thank you 👍
Thanks Petr, I have reached a definitive conclusion. I far prefer the 'two quarts out and two quarts in' in 15 minutes with the manual transmission bolted to my Corolla engine. When does Petr's World Famous Sauerkraut® finally reach the market? How big a discount do loyal subscribers get on bulk sauerkraut purchases? BTW sell your Sauerkraut directly and cut out the billionaire middle men ;-)
Even on my 2001 Lexus es300 (same mechanically as the Avalon/Camry V6/solara) I bought the ATF from the dealer Toyota type t4 fluid. It ain't no Chevy you can't use gas station fluids. Even coolant should be the pink or red Toyota coolant. I hate seeing green or yellow coolant in a Toyota.
@@fakeMbadge 08 Corolla here, also T4 fluid, and I only use OEM fluid, spill it and fill it twice a year. At just under 200 000 km, roughly 125 000 miles, and my transmission runs perfectly with nice bright red fluid on the dipstick. That gives me peace of mind.
@@highlypolishedturd7947 I got mine at 270km with old tranny fluid looked like it hadn't been serviced in a while. The u140e in the es300 isn't known to be the best transmission so I'm hoping it lasts until the chip shortage dies down so I can get another corrola, I miss the mpgs.
@@fakeMbadge had someone try the maxlife ATF synthetic for their same vehicle vintage but 98. Transmission would not shift correctly for the first mile until it warmed up properly or let the car idle. That one was T-IV. They didn't learn and thought it was a fluke of that particular used car. They tried again on another vehicle they bought ten years newer but also used. Nope. Same difference for same Maxlife. This time WS spec. I tell everyone. NEVER used Maxlife even though they say it's compatible.
@@JohnnyAllison 63,000m is a good time/miles. I changed my 2002 Yaris at 75,000m and recently my 2015 Yaris at 90,000m. 90,000m is border line. But Scotty Kilmer said he knew some people never changed there fluid even at 150,000m/200,000m and it's still going good lol But don't risk it, when you sell it on, the next customer will be doubtful of buying it.
The viewers do seem to like the #wildbrine kraut recommendations. I also see you like to use the nongshim noodle bowl and would also like to see your recommendations on Costco products that you snack on while at the shop! Their new one #tonkotsu noodles is something I want to try next. Their Kirkland trail mix is too raw for me and not as great as Kar's brand which roast their nuts more. Bigger chocolates in their trail mix than Kirkland. And of course Kirkland synthetic often has great two 5 quart jugs on sale.
Certainly the CVT fluid is expensive, but I just followed what Toyota said (sealed unit, good for the life of the car) and found that it was the first thing to go bad at 100K Km and just outside of the 5 year warranty (how about that). So, much cheaper than a new or used CVT and labour.
Thank you Peter for another great video and I had a quick question. 2010 Tacoma 4.0 with 163,000 miles would you recommend a drain and fill? I Need this truck to last me another 10 Years and bought as second owner from Toyota dealer can’t find it was ever done. Should I drain and fill? Thank you Ken
Hi Guys I have Auris 2013 K311 gearbox. And in Egypt weather is hot and Toyota egypt recommends changing the oil every 40k KM, and i didnt change for 100 KM im afaid to change it now as ppl are saying it will definitely fail and they are recommending that i continue like this with fhe the old till completely replacing the gearbox. As it may take another 100 or 150k KM what do you think?
Toyota Trans Fluid is made by AISIN and the FE Fluid For CVT Trans part# is AISIN ATF-TFE and is only $8.35 quart at Rockauto Don't Pay $25+ Quart just to have the Toyota name on the Bottle .
If you don't want problems, pay the Piper, bite the bullet and eat the goulash. Use the Toyota OEM. Back in the day for other fluids that were Toyota Red, Pentosin was a good equivalent. These days not sure with the new fluids. There is however fluid out out by the manufacturer of the trans.. Aisin.. 🤔🤔🤔
I have Corolla 2022 with CVT and dealers ship is asking 550 dollars for replacing its transmission oil. do you think its right price or they are overcharging it.
Is no one going to mention there is a plastic filler plug on top of the transmission that you can pull off and use a skinny funnel and fill up till it reaches the lowest part of the hole? At least on my 2015 toyota corolla le cvt car I do. I even looked it up on the dealer part website and its literally called a filler plug.
Well the dummy I am. I usually change my own oil. We were out over the holidays. And I went to Valvoline to have them do it and I wasn't thinking and I let them do the transmission. I think it was Mike's life or something transmission fluid so I screwed up. Do I need to take it and have it done at the dealer I guess
Don't! CVT's deposit more debris than a conventional AT transmissions do. They have a higher risk of pushing it into the valve body or solenoids. Just remove the pan, clean the screen & magnet, clean the pan (deposits & silicone) re-silicone the pan. Check for any leaks at the axle seals, bell housing, and trans cooler (front of trans) for any leaks. These CVT transmissions are sensitive to fluid levels and trans. temp. - It's my day job 😅 - (Transmission removal & reinstallation mechanic for going on 10yrs.)
Peter I have a 2011 Camry 2.5. 150,000 miles. I live in Florida. Consensus with mechanics around here is that if you have not changed the fluid before 100,000 miles you should leave it alone. The darkness is clutch material and if you replace it with clean fluid your transmission is more likely to slip and have damage. What are your thoughts?
What you can do is drain and fill but save the fluid for safety and see how it goes. Aisin is a strong and robust OEM. I know what they're saying, they think the clutch material on the autoclutch plates would come off and make the trans not shift correctly anymore. But that's Honda. They have the weak trans. Even if you kist put the wrong fluid in for them, disaster. But you don't get the fluid in the torque converter out so you get a fraction out. I forgot what is is now but you'd need to do three spill and fills out to get it mostly new. So if it works okay. Drive it for an oil change and spill and fill again and it will go from your original black sludge to a dark red when it comes out to a good but not perfect red. And see how that works out. You can save that dark red fluid as well if you drive and it has problems so you can put that back in if you desire. But I doubt it will need it. 150k is young for a Toyota.
That black stuff is worn away steel. I would change that oil every 50,000 miles. Old oil has to increase the wear a little, versus clean new oil. I wouldn't try using any other than the factory oil, since it may contain special additives needed to extend the life of the transmission. Trying to save a little on oil might cost you a new transmission. There are a lot of fake parts sold on various internet sites.
I just find it hard to believe that a dealership would turn down a customer who wants to do regular maintenance on a vehicle, it's money in their pockets.
Unsure myself, i recently did my car here in the UK, Yaris 2015 with 90,000 miles. Had a 2002 Yaris and used the genuine Toyota type 4 fluid. Always use the Toyota fluid, you can't go wrong, it'll be an expensive mistake.
@@tardeliesmagic I'd like the 'Project Farm' channel to do some comparisons on the different Toyota engine and transmission oils v other brands, just to see if the extra cost is justified, just out of curiosity
@@Charlie_Crown Me too! But long term ie 3 yrs+ down the road is what we need to know,gear box's can have issues as well as engines...how's it driven etc,as we all know. He's an awesome tester on products!!
I think we need to stop comparing new and old oil. Of course oil is going to darken over time - that's what it is supposed to do. The colour of oil has nothing to do with the condition. The only way to properly assess used oil is to do an oil analysis.
To avoid differences in volume at different temperatures, why doesn't anyone seem to recommend weighing what comes out and putting that same weight back in? Instead of measuring volumes.
Both are with good points. Tardell is saying at the dealer you have the temperature range trickle procedure. But Jay also makes sense if you can assume the oil isn't going somewhere we don't know about or burning or aspirating/evaporating off in some weird way that it's not supposed to.. as long as he lets it sit for both fluids to get to the same temp.. but at the dealer you don't have the time to wait days while a car is on a lift and neither at a Indy mechanic shop. It's his car so a shortcut is his chance.
