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DIY Widening steel wheels - MAD Offset #2 

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@opgedronken
@opgedronken 3 года назад
Top tip for mounting tyres on your so called "wrong" wheels. It's called a reversed lip, this means you put the wheel on the tyre machine upside down. This way the tyre goes onto it easy.
@prancstaman
@prancstaman 6 лет назад
Pretty good work there. When pressing out the centers on your press, light pressure from the press, then hit with a hammer lightly with no chisel. The vibration will move the center without bending it. The press just gives it the direction to move with the light pressure.
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Thank you! Yes, ive tried that, but didnt get the results i was looking for. The center didnt wanna move.... But i pretty certain if i try again and do it more properly it would work better. The wheels i usually do is the newever type, like 2008 and forward for volvos, and those rims are tighter then older rims. Helluva lotta work! :P
@AutomotiveSpecialtie
@AutomotiveSpecialtie 6 лет назад
Try this method with heating the wheel with a torch as well. Thermal expansion and hitting with a hammer to vibrate the 2 pieces apart may work well.
@johnazu476
@johnazu476 3 года назад
Hi mate Try using an sds drill on hammer with the chisel in instead of a big hammer and chisel to make the finer adjustments, I find you can make really controlled adjustments and it stops things bouncing about. Thanks for the vid a uk Volvo 240 (420) fan
@creamtube
@creamtube 3 года назад
U're right! I never got around to test this but i ground some chisels down. New job now that takes up alot of time so no time to make wheels anymore :( U're into wheel making?
@Docv400
@Docv400 7 лет назад
I squashed part of a Rim Edge using an Hydraulic press while I was working on the Centre-Flip for one of the Wheels I'm doing on my Daughter's '71 Beetle. Luckily I had a Spare, so I cut out a Circle from a piece of thick Plywood that fitted inside the Rim Lip. That way, I wasn't pressing on the Lip, but on the Inner Angle, so no more lip damage.
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Ah ye, really smart! I do the same when i hammer on the outter lip and newly added steelbank on conventional/easy widened rims. The 17" x4" rims u see i do this .So i, as u say, dont bend the absolut outter lip. Thanks for sharing that! knowledge is king!
@anthonyrybczynski5420
@anthonyrybczynski5420 4 года назад
I recommend less bevel grinding on edges you are going to weld. I have seen other pieces fail right beside the weld parallel to it.
@aleksandarmladenov9354
@aleksandarmladenov9354 Год назад
Hey, can you explain me about the opel rims, I have the same and I wonder if it’s gonna be better if I flip the first and then widen them, so the added part is on the non visible side? Thanks
@creamtube
@creamtube Год назад
Exactly, u got it right! U get the bigger part, the more space, if u have the "inner barrel" outwards. The Wheel will appear bigger and u won't need to grind down welds and make it look better. Its more of an visible esteticly pleasing...view :p
@neonalon
@neonalon 6 лет назад
Thanks for the vid. I have Peugeot van rims, 5x108, 7x17, et45something. Round holes! For my 240 I'm gonna swap inner and outer ring, gives me the right et value and some dish.
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Woot, what van and year are they from? Awesome, remember to show pics when u do it!!
@neonalon
@neonalon 6 лет назад
@@creamtube yes, will let you know! Not sure yet where the wheels are from. Will look for part number.
@yeanah2571
@yeanah2571 3 года назад
These look just like the steel wheels on my Crown Vic. Width is good, but less offset would be awesome
@EdwinRaeder
@EdwinRaeder 4 года назад
Finally Spot Welding is not Recommered for wheels. but for the first time good work
@warrenjegels6299
@warrenjegels6299 Год назад
Awesome video my man!!!!
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 4 года назад
think my chevrolet fullsize pickuptruck has 5 on 105as for pushing out the center , you can make a pushtool , basicly a thick plat with a thickwall ring welded on that and machined to fit realy good against the edges of the center you drop it in the rim against de edges of the center from the back and use the press to push it out without pushing in the middle and maibe bend the center out of shape
@nickstewart3725
@nickstewart3725 3 года назад
If your making these still I'd love a set for my 91 740 turbo estate....they will look soo sweet!
@creamtube
@creamtube 3 года назад
Kinda sorta do. Next year i hope to start my new machine and improve that ...so hang in there x)
@RGIIIBOXING
@RGIIIBOXING 3 года назад
@@creamtube I need A steel rims like that' in A 17 x 10 1/2 to Fit A 255 / 40 / 17 ...5 x 120 bolt pattern"
@johanvantongeren82
@johanvantongeren82 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video and explanation! This made me decide to widen my 17” steelies myself. I’m gonna build a rig like you have from an old 850/V70 wheelhub and a mount to put a grinder in. I’m also going to add a gauge to check if everything is square before I weld eveything. What would you recommend for widening steelies on a 245? Add a 3/4cm to the front wheels and back and flip the centers on the rear wheels? And also; did you but the strips pre-bent? Or did you bend then yourself?
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Excellent decision! Hope u make a bid or something when u get started 😊 On a Volvo 240 the rear can swallow an OK amount of lip. Till the fenders, or better yet just cut some of it out. Volvo did a slight calculation error so the rear Axel is farther back then the fender. So it's gonna rub on the back of the fenders. Not sure exactly what CM u should go on but throw the wheel on and check. I would do the same style of widening, front and rear, else it looks like two different wheels. I bought the metal one cut and rolled it at my old school. But I think it's best to just buy it already cut and rolled. Easier. Good luck with the wheels!! :)
@johanvantongeren82
@johanvantongeren82 6 лет назад
Thanks for the reply! I got a wheel hub last weekend and started on building the rig already. I'd probably widen all wheels the same way, instead of flipping the rear and not the front wheels. Now I only need to find a source for the rings to weld. Or build a bending machine to make the hoops myself.
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Johan van Tongeren Awesome! Problem i had was that most metalshops didn't wanna make JUST 4 banded metal pieces, They wanna make huuuge profit on everything :p Try to find a nice little roofing shop or metalshop to get the metal done right. It's cheaper in the end and they cut it straight and true....hopefully X)
@tjmiani
@tjmiani 6 лет назад
THANKS FOR YOUR EXPERIENCE MAN YOU PUT YOUR GOOD
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Tajammal Hussain Happy to share, thanks for watching!!
@uncleben4560
@uncleben4560 5 лет назад
can alloy wheels be widened this way ?
@creamtube
@creamtube 5 лет назад
Very few alloy rims are made the same way as these steel ones. Some new production wheels are block made but i guess we wanna find cheap used ones. So basically no, they cant :/
@MrStevenWalker
@MrStevenWalker 6 лет назад
Very cool and helpful, thanks for the video.
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Cheers mate!
@kanjonate413
@kanjonate413 6 лет назад
2nd last wheel the one that didn’t go in you needa heat rim so the center will fall in perfect
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Cant remember the details completely but the wheel would need to stretch way too much for it with just heat... If remember correctly
@TheSmookk
@TheSmookk 6 лет назад
those space savers are the dogs danglers dude (y)
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Ratsquid pff Hahaha!
@mangokraken
@mangokraken 7 лет назад
finally the sequel ive been waiting for!
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Dr. Zoidberg haha, that makes me happy to hear! X)
@MM_Media00
@MM_Media00 5 лет назад
var i sverige bor du o håller du fortfarande på med detta för e sugen på o ha mina plåtisar breddade!
@creamtube
@creamtube 5 лет назад
Söder om Örebro men håller inte riktigt på med de just nu... Lite stiltje. Vääääldigt lite pengar att tjäna :p
@WimCTI
@WimCTI 7 лет назад
keep up the good work!!! greetings from NL
@Paul-ex2bz
@Paul-ex2bz 6 лет назад
Great video. What thickness steel do you use for the band?
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Paul Sulfa Thanks! 2.5mm. I've seen a "pro" use only 2mm, but 2.5 has always worked for me. Strong and durable, for even rally driving :)
@ChrisirhC81
@ChrisirhC81 7 лет назад
16:31 Best part!
@richardvanhorn6609
@richardvanhorn6609 6 лет назад
wow! I think ill try this. Awesome vid
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Richard Vanhorn Go for it!!
@Wrenchlife604
@Wrenchlife604 7 лет назад
thanks for the vid. greetings from canada.
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Thank YOU! :)
@АлександърСлавов-б2я
i actually preffer the "ugly way" cuz it's functional, cuz it works.. lel cool video.. i did enjoy it (y)
@cezarrodrigo5076
@cezarrodrigo5076 7 лет назад
Congratulations good job with wheels, here in Brazil I'm Welding with the process TIG because is better...
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Cezar Rodrigo thanks mate! Ye, tig looks so much cleaner... too expensive tho for me :(
@alexgutavsson6012
@alexgutavsson6012 7 лет назад
Vad kostar de om du breddar ett set med V70 reservhjul? Och i vilket län håller du hus? :)
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
alex gustafsson Det är lite beroende på. hittar du fälgar kan jag dra av några hundra. typ 2000, vilket kanske är lite dyrt, men jag brukar inte ta beställningar. just nu breddar jag det jag själv hittar och säljer, då vissa fälgar är skrot från början och vill inte att den som lämnar sina fälgar ska tro jag sabbat dom. meeeen inga priser är huggna i sten! Örebro län, Kumla :)
@ralfrisberg8009
@ralfrisberg8009 7 лет назад
creamtube 2000 är inte alls dyrt , prova köp ett par nya plåt fälgar ska du se ;)
@Ankan..
@Ankan.. 5 лет назад
Haha 😅 Älskar din Svengelska! En fråga, Var kan man få tag i 17" centrumvända Volvo fälgar?
@creamtube
@creamtube 5 лет назад
Oj, är den så tydlig? :D iom att jag inte gör fälgar knappt alls längre(händer ibland) så kan jag väl bara rekomendera blocket. Även facebook marketplace, eller ännu hellre Fälgar köp sälj bytes. Det dyker upp ibland
@Ankan..
@Ankan.. 5 лет назад
@@creamtube Tack jag får kika runt lite eller sluta lata mig å göra mig ett par istället.
@schoumv6
@schoumv6 4 года назад
How safe are they? Er de sikkre å kjøre på veien?
@creamtube
@creamtube 4 года назад
Jajamen. Bara man svetsar bra så är det lungt. Om du kollar på vissa original plåtfälgar så kan man bli rädd😂
@sweepoodgaming5400
@sweepoodgaming5400 6 лет назад
var i svealand bor pågen och vad kostar ett par fälgar?
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
En bit ifrån Örebro och just nu ligger allt lite på is. Massa annat att stå i ... vilket man inte vill egentligen :/
@coax.
@coax. 5 лет назад
how do you roll/shape the steel band? nice work,
@creamtube
@creamtube 5 лет назад
My English if failing me... What the heck is the name, I've watched tons of vids about how to build one and I have one... But i cant remember xddd
@coax.
@coax. 5 лет назад
are they, slip rollers?
@cashmoremudavanhu6126
@cashmoremudavanhu6126 2 года назад
How do you take out the centre
@creamtube
@creamtube 2 года назад
Cut the welds, hammer and chisel (blunt chisel) and just evenly knock it out. Painstaking task
@williamneigum7002
@williamneigum7002 7 лет назад
I think the "ugly" looks way better
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
William Neigum good with variety, we can't all like the same :) the no-hole-rims can Ofc be 17" and have the "nice" widening :)
@crossjes1
@crossjes1 7 лет назад
hi have you tried to flip the center on opel wheels ???:)
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
ROAD-RUNNER the ones in the vid or in general? Yes, kinda, but it's basically the same thing :) Trying a new way to center turn which might turn out to be better. Less fiddle with balancing. Gonna make a vid about it someday
@thegodsofthegods877
@thegodsofthegods877 7 лет назад
tjena, jag letar för fullt efter någon som kan bredda mina fälgar till skodan är det något du kan göra?
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
William Mattsson tjena! tyvärr ingen jigg än för 4/100. blir väl med framtiden men har typ ingen tid nu till fälgar... mins egna projekt står lite stilla. men ska försöka pilla ihop en liten jigg snart hoppas jag. hör annars med intera eller.....vad de andra nu hette. finns några fälgföretag som grejar detta
@WARD5KUSTOMZ
@WARD5KUSTOMZ 4 года назад
Id like to do that on a set of 22.5 steel wheels i have as well as flip the center
@creamtube
@creamtube 4 года назад
Go for it! I would love to mod some truckwheels or something
@waagaard9609
@waagaard9609 7 лет назад
Vart hittar du reservhjulen till en V70
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Waagaard Det är lite knepigt men bilskrotarna har, dock alldeles för dyra enligt mig. 400kr e åt väggarna fel :p annars får man luska om nån har reservdelsbilar som står
@traviscartwright6267
@traviscartwright6267 7 лет назад
Are you using flux core wire ?
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Oh here we go.... No. "oh but why does the welds look like shit then..." Just a bad welder x) I cut thru an weld and it was solid and no holes or pins. Tho i have gotten pipes sometimes. But then again, the welds isnt showing that well video ;)
@martinmo195
@martinmo195 7 лет назад
Norge? hvor holder du til?
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
martinmo195 det dumma Sverige ! :D
@drift0141
@drift0141 7 лет назад
Hur tjock plåt brukar du köra?
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
drift0141 2mm. kan tyckas tunt men det är vad det flesta innan mig kört med, tex. manne från Karlstad.
@payawong4260
@payawong4260 6 лет назад
That’s for the video. I want to have a steel 15’ wheels made for my VW vanagon. I am going for the deep dish look can I do 15 x 6.5 on the and 15x7 on the back with ET 35...! But don’t want to have the tire going out pass my fender! Please help me with my measurements
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
What year is your vw? Test a wheel u know fits, find the ET for it and messure from the lip out to your fender. Do u want to centerflip and widened or just widened? Just widened as usual, just messure from the lip out. Else try to think in revers. et 0 is the middle of a wheel. 35 is just 35mm off center. But, since u have 6.5-7" rims, it will be fine probably. THrow some camber on and u have more room to play with :)
@payawong4260
@payawong4260 6 лет назад
creamtube my VW is 1984 VW transporter...
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
@@payawong4260 do a Google Search? Something like: 1984 transporter stance
@gurkan7678
@gurkan7678 5 лет назад
Vilken svets använder du?
@creamtube
@creamtube 5 лет назад
En gammal industrisvets, mig. Bara man har en okej svets så går allt 😊
@gurkan7678
@gurkan7678 5 лет назад
@@creamtube Tackar snabb respons :)
@lencho2436
@lencho2436 4 года назад
Very good video. I subscribed.
@Ajay_Bhuvaji__
@Ajay_Bhuvaji__ 4 года назад
Nice bro👌
@jimmyweber8538
@jimmyweber8538 6 лет назад
What about doing aluminum wheels?
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Jimmy Weber A whole different beast. Very different to weld all the kinds of alloy mixtures most aluwheels has. And u can just extend the lip, much more variations on steel wheels. Yet again, it's "just steel wheels
@jimmyweber8538
@jimmyweber8538 6 лет назад
creamtube thanks, was thinking about aiding some old American racing wheels, thanks for the info.
@alinazeer4266
@alinazeer4266 7 лет назад
Hii bro u didn't upload your car video :(
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
ali nazeer Ye, the rims keeps getting sold before I can put them on anything xD. sorry about that! maby getting a continuous stance project to work on soon, a friends car... keep a lookout for that :) Rly cool of u to even remember my channel, bro!!
@scottallen6970
@scottallen6970 4 года назад
a lot of porosity and lack of fusion with all those spot welds. Low gas coverage while the puddle cools. Try to just weld.
@creamtube
@creamtube 4 года назад
Wrong, no pipes or pins. Penetrated well but yes, the spotwelds changed in all the other sets
@285625417
@285625417 6 лет назад
you can watch a photos on my instagram instagram.com/newworldofdisorder/
@Razmus666
@Razmus666 7 лет назад
Antar att du är från sverige, kan man komma i kontakt med mig? skulle behöva ett par fälgar. Mvh Rasmus
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
razmus andersson tjena! jag visst kan vi tjöta lite. dock lite osäker på specialbeställningar. har inte alla bultmönster till min jigg, men fråga på du, så svarar jag så gott jag kan! :)
@Razmus666
@Razmus666 7 лет назад
creamtube behöver bara hjälp att få min plåtfälgar till min Volvo 945 lite bredare.
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
razmus andersson Okej, är det vanlig breddning du villa ha, dvs den enklaste? 15"?
@vicosee4439
@vicosee4439 6 лет назад
Nice
@originalplayers8027
@originalplayers8027 6 лет назад
Cream it the steel wheels whit the reversed offset im interested in. 🤝
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Original Players sorry, i cant sell outside Sweden :( Where are u from? Maybe I can get u in contact with someone more local. Got a few dudes I know of
@originalplayers8027
@originalplayers8027 6 лет назад
creamtube im from denmark. I could come over and pick em up? What town do you live in.
@originalplayers8027
@originalplayers8027 6 лет назад
But if you know anybody from denmark it could be sweet
@creamtube
@creamtube 6 лет назад
Original Players im in Örebro. Im Kinda on a hold with the rim making now, time is little :p What car do u want rims for? Im gonna see if I can find someone in Denmark if nothing else :)
@originalplayers8027
@originalplayers8027 6 лет назад
creamtube need for the bmw 520i e39 😉
@285625417
@285625417 6 лет назад
i flipper the center on malibu rims. with no problem
@SHREDTOKILL
@SHREDTOKILL 2 года назад
Any more info on this?
@285625417
@285625417 2 года назад
@@SHREDTOKILL what info do you want? cut the center part hammer it ot. flip it, weld it
@SHREDTOKILL
@SHREDTOKILL 2 года назад
Pics...
@krille438
@krille438 7 лет назад
Should show your volvo some time
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
krille438 got a few... and they are all not worthy to show really X) might get the old 244 running with some wheels soon. spring is nye in Sweden :)
@krille438
@krille438 7 лет назад
creamtube I bet you if you start Volvo series it would be a huge success just look att driftsNlift or braden carlson. Everyone loves bricks even I own a 945 turbo
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
krille438 hehe, Ye! Ure prally right about that. don't know who Braden is, gotta check him out!
@JohanTheDude97
@JohanTheDude97 7 лет назад
Säljer du ?
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
JA, typ, när jag hunnit gjort några hehe. Har några femekrade 16" på g. Åker väl upp på blocket om en vecka eller två :)
@ianduijsens
@ianduijsens 7 лет назад
looks great im to big of a pussy myself to do it XD
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Ian Duijsens get some scrap wheels and just try it out! it's slot of work tho... X)
@ianduijsens
@ianduijsens 7 лет назад
creamtube yeah im looking at it but im kinda a poor fuck with all the project i have and i only have a stick welder
@ianduijsens
@ianduijsens 7 лет назад
and i dont have a car to try them on XD before thinking about selling them
@oficina3erodaschoppers828
@oficina3erodaschoppers828 5 лет назад
Muito bom Chuck
@szokeszabolcs4440
@szokeszabolcs4440 7 лет назад
weld lv999
@creamtube
@creamtube 7 лет назад
Szoke Szabolcs Hehe!
@fergul11
@fergul11 3 года назад
suca blia :) :) :) :) very bad word bro :)
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