DJI Avata FPV CE vs FCC, Is it a Joke?

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DJI Avata CE vs FCC ULTIMATE Signal Penetration Test
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@RobHK Год назад

If you want to support the channel it would be really awesome if you purchased the Avata through this link: bit.ly/3AUSuis

@zenargaming1257 8 месяцев назад

I believe the signal of goggles to the drone are 2 different signal from the controller, so doesn't matter what remote you use the goggles signal does not depend on remote.

@matthayesphotography Год назад

Thank you for posting this man!! This testing / data is pretty much non-existent on the internet other than this video!

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks, Matt! Appreciate it🤙😃

@gimbalair Год назад

Great insight many thanks for putting this together, i cam from a self build with Air unit that had the 1200mw hack and have noticed a huge difference in penetration. I dont fly big distances but do fly indoors and signal strength would be important.

@Zeds-Lens Год назад

Great video and an excellent set of comparative tests. Thank you for all your efforts and a valuable set of results.

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks a lot Zed🤙 really appreciate that!

@robinfro3610 Год назад

This was extremely helpful! Thank u for testing this 🤞🏻

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks a lot mate!🙌🤙

@georgep.9014 Год назад

very well documented review. congrats.

@stephanjanssen2293 Год назад

Thanks for the clear breakdown, Also absolute massive first divebomb from the cliff!

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks a lot mate 🙌😃😃

@adamjensen887 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the comprehensive comparing!

@Thailand-User-1 Год назад

Thanks for your testing.😊

@XO43137 Год назад

Thx so much, man! Prepped for when I get the Avata. :)

@RobHK Год назад

Awesome! Hope this helped!😃👌

@AEROVISUALES Год назад

Nice comparacive video Rob, i am still can not decide with goggles should i get. Thanks and regards.

@ExtremeAerialProductions Год назад

Thanks for all the hard work

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks mate👌

@StevenCockrill Год назад

Thank you for this comparison, very helpful.

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks a lot, Steven🙌😃

@EhvFotoAir Год назад

Compliments for your clear information. Thnx a lot👊

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks a lot mate! Much appreciated👌

@Wild__FPV 7 месяцев назад

Hey, great vid! Big thanks for all the deets. I actually did the FCC hack just yesterday, but haven't thrown it into action yet. From my digging, it seems rocking the channel mode on "Auto" (with the FCC hack, obviously) is the way to go. It taps into all the channels and both frequencies, so you get the full shebang. Thinking it might be even sweeter if 2.4 GHz gets in on the party too. Better penetration and more range, ya know? Wondering if you've stumbled onto any fresh deets. See any game-changing boosts in drone range lately?

@jimthorleydronefootage Год назад

Great tests thanks 👍

@Feunard38 Год назад

Thanks for this very nice test !

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks a lot Nicolas! Appreciate you tuning in🤙😃

@brazenclips Год назад

Sorry for the mishaps! But you learned many valuable lessons. As long as your 3D printer can print with a much stiffer material you should be ok. However. I have a time-saving recommendation. I recommend you print a regular 5-prop to swap out with one regular DJI prop. If it works even slightly OK, then print the toroidal set. Right now your biggest challenge is material selection. I also recommend sanding the propellers to remove any edge imperfections. Those matter a lot.

@pascalbucher2258 Год назад

Thx... for your great Work...👍👏💪

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks bro👍😊

@sonarithkh Год назад

Great video thank you

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks a lot Sona🙌

@sudarshankj Месяц назад

Great video! Curious to know why different remote controllers are affecting the singal rate since the video transmission happens between the vtx on the drone and the googles. Am I missing something?

@albertvallecillo304 Год назад

Great video bro❤ Have a question where were u when I were making the dive with in that big rock ?? Down or above ??

@RobHK Год назад

Bottom

@mmovie Год назад

Great vid! I would still like to see FCC vs CE tested in (and around) an actual building. I think it would be more accurate as well flying the same path

@RobHK Год назад

I don’t have any buildings of that kind nearby. But have an idea 💡😃

@quattroesp Год назад

big thanks

@oscaradrenalina1 Год назад

Znakomita robota.

@pedro-pascualsilvera2982 10 месяцев назад

Nice video! Is there an option of the FCC Hack for the latest firmware?

@LowryDroneography-Steve Год назад

Great stuff. Mine arrived today. FCC doesn’t seem as strong as on the FPV drone, maybe I need to re-do the hack! I noticed at one point before a flight in your video that you didn’t switch channel selection back to Auto, not sure if that made much difference though in that environment.

@RobHK Год назад

All flights done in auto channels. Guess i trimmed it out ^^ auto should be the best, but i had the same thought, maybe manual selection whould be better. 🤷‍♂️

@dennisklein3574 Год назад

Does the user interface of the goggles V2 appear as it is in this video while flying or is it similar to the new goggles 2? Also, great video!

@RobHK Год назад

No. You need to record the subtitles and add them in post later 🫤

@Carlos_A_Costa Год назад

If i change from ce to fcc i loose the warranty? Good video!

@philfastmike3496 Год назад

Great test! Thanks. However your conclusion saying that with MC results are very similar between FCC and CE is only valid outside. I am doing visits through concrete and blocks made houses, and I am quickly loosing the video signal completely in CE mode when it stays rock solid in FCC. The difference is huge! Hope this helps

@RobHK Год назад

Could be. I did a test now for my latest video. Definitely saw the improvements in fcc when flying normal (not testing or pushing it) Doesn’t matter anymore tho, the Avata wanted to die😅 RIP

@BaqPaqJaq Год назад

Hi Phil. Did you get FCC mode with the “ham” file? Thanks….

@philfastmike3496 Год назад

@@BaqPaqJaq Yes Sir! Works like a charm.

@BaqPaqJaq Год назад

@@philfastmike3496 Great 👍🏻

@planetaryengineer Год назад

@@philfastmike3496 in Russian it is similar, consonant with the word - boor. And indeed it is! That's what I found! Ham, sometimes Yam, is a biblical character who survived the Flood, one of the three sons of Noah, the brother of Japheth and Shem, who gave rise to the concept of “rudeness”, which means a disregard for cultural prohibitions.

@absolut52 Год назад

Great video, but I’m confused why you’re looking at the video transmission rate (mbps) when comparing the two different controllers. Isn’t the video transmission rate only going to be affected by different goggles??

@johnydishmey9333 Год назад

Very nice video but he seems to be confusing RC signal power with video signal strength

@rigaesse Год назад

Very nice video! While flying with the older Googles V2 do you see the same on-screen informations of the new Googles 2 ? The layout is the same? I mean the centre circle (using the Motion Controller), and all the datas on the bottom of the screen? Thank you

@RobHK Год назад

Yes the same things are show in both goggles, tho the goggles 2 is the only one with the option to record it.

@axe3920 Год назад

@@RobHK IMO the goggles V2 do record both, the 4k footage AND the telemetric files.

@RobHK Год назад

@@axe3920 it does yes, but not as the Goggles 2, and you need to add it later in post so the process is a bit longer

@DarrenEarlWilliams 10 месяцев назад

Hmm, when you checked if it was fcc mode, did yo stay in manual or choose auto for channel mode?

@martin_in_the_alps Год назад

Thanks, that was very helpful. Today is a new update. Does the hack still work on the goggles V2 after the new update?

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks, Martin. I wont be updating to this minor update for now

@robi1kenobi Год назад

Does this still work on the latest firmware? Thanks for the video!

@TeaDoggo Год назад

Great video and great comparison so thanks for that! I'm from the UK and just wondering if I bought a drone from the US would that automatically be in FCC mode? Cheers

@RobHK Год назад

No. If you travel to us it will change on start-up same in uk…. Once powered on, it will change to CE

@TeaDoggo Год назад

@@RobHK That's good to know. Thanks for the info 👍

@simonrcfpv2597 Год назад

The drone doesn’t come in fcc in us or Canada !

@ansonkiek6471 Год назад

FCC support goggle generation 1 too ? I had experience lost visual for my goggle cause my drone lost. Is this fcc will help on this great reception for goggle too ?

@MichaelWahlgren85 Год назад

Thanks for making this video, it was intressting. But I still think that its quite short range? But Avata only uses 5.8 ghz and not 2.4 ghz that would explain the short range alot.

@RobHK Год назад

Yes, it´s not a range test? For range i got easily to 3km and could go further. Avata is only 5.8ghz indeed which is a bummer... and CE is a joke. Tho the FCC hack(free) vs the paid one from drone hacks or drone tweaks isn´t giving much difference. Only thing is that you have the option to waste $25 or not. The one in the description is definitely the cheapest way with minimal hassle

@assafweiss8078 Год назад

How is the motion controller/fpv controller related to the video signal strength? Isnt it just related to the combination between the goggles and the drone?

@RobHK Год назад

Yes that is correct, but not everyone knows that and might think there’s differences so i included that for any total noobies

@AR-tl5ti Год назад

The only video i found to real testing for avata, great!!

@RobHK Год назад

Thanks mate👌🤙

@martinambler3774 9 месяцев назад

Great video. With hack do you stick with 40MHz and not auto?

@RobHK 9 месяцев назад

Always auto

@jonhaze7537 10 месяцев назад

I live in the US and my new O3 airunit still came in CE mode WTF! I knew something wasn't good when I flew only a few hundred feet away and I was down to 20mbps smh. I fixed it and will be doing a test flight here shortly but it makes sense: CE is only 25mw and FCC is 1200MW!!!!!!

@jaimemedina6430 Год назад

I understand the sd card hack only unlocked the 3 chanels it doesn’t really increase the output or the signal. I noticed the same on mine. Now I got the drone tweeks hack which works with on a jacked DJI fly app. This actually gives a message “ fcc mode active” on the screen when the app is launched. I have to test now with this hack to see if a get any noticeable improvement.

@RobHK Год назад

These are exactly the same.. difference is a waste of $25. There’s no difference from all the tests ive seen.🤷‍♂️

@chienb Год назад

Any updates? I’m only getting 300-500m in suburban US with sdcard hack

@kaveen04 Год назад

Thank you for the great comparison video, I should use FCC hack, I think :P

@-SevenOfNine- Год назад

Thanks for the comparison! ham_cfg_support is a 0 byte file, do I really need to use this?

@RobHK Год назад

There is an improvement to the goggles 2, it penetrates better, but line of site should be quite similar to CE tbh. When i get my avata back, or if i do, from DJI ill see if the difference is significant for normal fpv flying(no heavy testing)

@LuckyPratama71 4 месяца назад

So the fcc unlock is just an empty file in the sd card?

@RGMGFitness Год назад

Interesting to see what others are reporting. As someone who lives in United States 🇺🇸..can report easily getting 300 meters (1,000 feet), still at 50Mbps, in open area.

@RobHK Год назад

Open area i get 3km

@stumpjumper_ste Год назад

Open area in CE mode, I get max 350m

@chienb Год назад

Suburban California getting about 300-500m in fcc

@edgararcega3046 4 месяца назад

Is this even legal and doable in 2024? Voids warranty?

@guiga_melo 6 месяцев назад

Tks

@jesusgjchuza6491 Год назад

Super 🤝😎🙏

@Akoohn Год назад

is there a way to make ce googles to fcc googles ?

@coptertravel1846 Год назад

Nice 👍

@AEROVISUALES Год назад

Does the FCC hack works with the newest Dicember firmware on Goggles 2?

@RobHK Год назад

Yes

@possible1337 Год назад

You dont have a problem with blurred edges on the goggles 2 ? If I have my optics at center my edges are blurred. And if I take the optics further away the edges become clear, but the center part is out of focus...

@RobHK Год назад

I have no issues, there is some, but not much so i have no problems. You could try to change the focus mode setting to off and see if that helps

@algersonvincent Год назад

what exactly is ce mode and fcc mode?

@TobiasjakobsenFPV 2 месяца назад

Hey mate. How do you know if it is in FCC mode - i did enable it, but where do i check it? :)

@RobHK 2 месяца назад

Check the channels😊

@speedbird737 Год назад

shouldn't you have enabled FCC mode and left transmission in auto mode? no left on a single channel?

@RobHK Год назад

Everything was kept on auto

@johnny_123b Год назад

Would you go with goggles v2 or goggles 2 for freestyle flying?=

@RobHK Год назад

Goggles 2 for the clarity

@ulven75 Год назад

Nice test 🙂 I have a much better drone after i got it into fcc mode 🙂

@RobHK Год назад

Happy to hear that! 😃

@mariusloseth Год назад

Har du noe negativ erfaring med dem Nye brillene med dugg og lyslekasje?

@RobHK Год назад

Ikke leak lr fog her. Kommer ann på hvor varmt det er og ansiktsformen på personen. Men ingen leaks og et bedre brillepar enn v2

@YairAlbegWein Год назад

Stupid question but should I keep it on Manual transmission mode after switching to FCC or auto? Not sure

@RobHK Год назад

Auto is best, if you have interference it will automatically switch to the better.

@arhamgani7719 Год назад

Same question, thank you 😁

@kevinruan 6 месяцев назад

14dbm is 25milliwatts radio power and 33dbm is 2000milliwatts or 2watt radio power. when you think of it 14 as around half of 33, but in reality these are 100 times difference in power levels. these are a restriction of both governments.

@gravur-art 3 месяца назад

so with ~33dbm we will fry our brains, i think? :D

@mlmedia2023 4 месяца назад

You say at the end that the penetration is not as good as other fpv drones. But from other videos with pro fpv guys, the opposite statement is coming. Where they never get that good penetration as with the goggles 2 and the avata. So that's kinda funny.

@GOGOFoodandTravel Год назад

which one is better to use? Motion control or FPV control ?

@RobHK Год назад

The one you prefer. It has no impact on the transmission feed to the goggles. This comes from the air unit in the avata

@GOGOFoodandTravel Год назад

@RobHK Is this avata worth it to buy?

@RobHK Год назад

I have a full video on this that im finishing up now. It will aswer everything you should know

@jessjess3369 Год назад

Lets come to the conclusion that Dji actually made the motion controller dan goggle 2 for CE mode..they finally know how to keep out people from using fcc hack..

@SecretAgentBond Год назад

I noticed the weather conditions changed from totally cloudy and rain to partly sunny and no rain. You do understand how humidity and other changing weather conditions affect wifi signal transmissions?

@RobHK Год назад

Some times i just giggle🤙 thanks

@R1d3rBul Год назад

Its pretty strange, because when I was on a CE channel I got 30-40mbps, but when I tried FCC it stays on 7mbps all the time.

@RobHK Год назад

Check if you’re set to 40mhz which is 50mdps, 20 is 25mbps etc

@R1d3rBul Год назад

@@RobHK Maybe it was stuck on the first fly. After a restart its starting at 50mbps. Thanks for the reply as well man :)

@rektalniotmichar346 Год назад

Hi everyone, can someone tell me do I need to leave in auto mode or I need to put one of the 3 channels?

@RobHK Год назад

Just leave it in auto and it will adjust to the channel with best signal automatically

@rektalniotmichar346 Год назад

@@RobHK Tnx bro

@hongk0ngfu3y Год назад

can you use the Avata with the old DJI controller?

@pajomota64 Год назад

Yes

@hongk0ngfu3y Год назад

@@pajomota64 cool. I was about to buy the dji fpv controller thinking the old full-size radio wouldn't work

@pajomota64 Год назад

Sorry, not with the V1. You can use the one with the FPV drone

@pajomota64 Год назад

@@hongk0ngfu3y not the V1. Only the one that ships with DJI Fpv Drone

@hongk0ngfu3y Год назад

@@pajomota64 oh, looks like I'll have to get a controller then

@walkabout16 9 месяцев назад

In the realm of skies, where drones take flight, DJI Avata FPV, a beacon of light, But a curious tale, a choice to invoke, CE versus FCC, a puzzling cloak. CE whispers softly, regulatory finesse, FCC stands strong, with power to impress, Two worlds collide, frequencies entwine, A tale of restrictions, in the air's design. Is it a joke, this dance they perform, CE's gentle limits, FCC's storm, Avata FPV caught in between, A decision, perplexing, in the aerial scene. CE's reach restricted, a cautious flight, FCC's bold horizon, stretching wide and bright, DJI's Avata FPV, a drone with wings, Caught in a regulatory riddle, the strangest of things. A dance of legality, frequencies play, CE versus FCC, in skies' array, Is it a joke, a game of chance, Navigating rules, in an intricate dance? As Avata FPV soars through the air, CE or FCC, each with a flair, Remember the skies, where freedom ignites, In this regulatory tale, where innovation takes flight.

@marco899 Год назад

Bitrate is for the videosignal, has nothing tot do with the controller.

@RobHK Год назад

Of course it doesnt…

@sbtgn75 Год назад

why would the rc even matter for googles Mb ?

@RobHK Год назад

It doesnt…..

@tonygee3284 Год назад

SOLD my avata and wont buy another DJI drone due to the range for a $3k drone it to me is not worth it

@Robin-Visser Год назад

I have better result with just one channel in 2.8 ghz than 5.8 with multiple channels

@extrapatinmazaron6494 Год назад

i know you are trying to show what this drone is capable of but what about having a spotter ? and not flying BVLOS ?

@Simulacra001 Год назад

Wearing a smart/Apple watch makes no difference whatsoever. If that were the case then having your phone in your pocket would also be an issue.

@RobHK Год назад

Good for you

@GhostDogg07 Год назад

Arent you afraid of damaging the Drone due to the Rain?

@RobHK Год назад

It can handle minor rain. But had to pull it back at times when it really opened up. No damage done👌

@mariusloseth Год назад

Folk skriver att txt filen ikke gjør den fullverdig over til fcc. Bare brillene blir i fcc. Menst dji app hack endrer alle parametre.

@RobHK Год назад

Sant det. Men er kun power som må endres fra 25mw. Kommer denne opp til(tror det er 200) så har su max signal og en ekte FCC versjon. Har ikke sjekket opp dette enda. Men kan gjøre det i helgen

@leffep Год назад

Ive tried both this txt file, and the app from Drone Tweaks, cant say i notice any difference at all between them. also heard discussions about this not being a real FCC hack, but then again, i don't know what the Drone Hacks app do exactly either. Anyhow, not worth paying for an app as they both are equal in performance.

@mariusloseth Год назад

Men med gammle brillene hadde jeg en 1200mw hack. Fungerer den videre på avata eller har vtx max 200som du sier uansett hvilken briller? Har du testa nye brillene vs gammle på rekkevidde i fcc?

@RobHK Год назад

Er ingen “ordentlig” hack til avata enda. De som er er like, enten kaster man bort $25 eller tar den som er free. Eneste den gjør er å gi bedre rekkevidde i brillene. Drona er fortsatt 25mw og går i teorien ikke lengre, men virker sånn fordi brillene holder noe lengre rekkevidde. Vi må nok vente noen uker til

@davideickhoff694 Год назад

@@RobHK Jag brukar köra 700 MW output med mina V2 på andra quads. Kommer de att gå högre än 25 MW om jag köper en Avata?

@nienormalnyVLOG Год назад

Mate you have made simple mistake !! After FCC hack leave channels on AUTO and allow drone to auto change between 3 of them !! Then check penetration and range !! 😅 and your mind will be blown !!

@RobHK Год назад

So exactly as i did then……watch the video

@nGons 9 месяцев назад

@RobHK No, you used manual and CH1 only. He meant leaving it to auto so that it automatically switches between the 3 channels. And yes, that's a big mistake. Also the remote has nothing to do with video transmission

@ColinNiko Год назад

yeah you forgot to mention that by doing this your breaking the law in the eu, and people wonder why the govts want to add more and more rules 🤦‍♂️ I would reckon thats kind of an important bit of information you might want to share

@RobHK Год назад

Funny how you know which drone licenses i have

@GianmariaVeronese Год назад

If I were you, I’d repeat the FCC hack. In my case it made a night and day difference.

@Bhaveshh1 Год назад

repeat??? Again remove the file and unzip it again??

@GianmariaVeronese Год назад

@@Bhaveshh1 with the old air units sometimes it was necessary to repeat the procedure more than once in order to successfully complete it. Maybe this can be the case as well. With my Avata CE and FCC are a totally different story.

@stumpjumper_ste Год назад

Got to agree, in CE mode I get 350m max before losing signal, in fcc mode 1km and still 45mbit in same area.

@apo5 Год назад

@@GianmariaVeronese can you tell something more about it? People on my facebook group said that it is impossible that repeating give something becuase "its only copying file - nothing to repeat here"