As a user of a iPhone 15 Pro Max and the Pocket 3 I can tell you no way the phone is better. Even recording Pro Res to a ssd the Pocket is just better as it should be using a 1 inch sensor. Only advantage to the iPhone 15 Pro Max is the fact that it’s pretty much always in my pocket. Take your phone video and play it on a 70 inch 4k tv and you’ll definitely see the lack of quality.
Yep. The main lens is pretty good in controlled light when shooting prores. But in the real world phones don’t cut it ergonomically. I especially hate using them with gimbals, pocket 3 is a completely different thing.
@@Healthy_Tokibut the phone also does hundreds of things the DJI pocket can’t do and then videos good enough to warrant someone to make a RU-vid video comparing them.
Disagree. P3 hands down better than phone camera. You can change settings n other more advance feature. Phone is for people who doesnt know much about camera settings. Just point n shoot.
No smartphone gives you this image quality, at least the quality that you have in 10 bit d-log (the standard profile 8 bit is rather bad, in my opinion). The fact of having this quality with a 1-inch sensor at low light, without those horrible artifacts from electronic stabilization, I would say is enough for the choice compared to any smartphone, including iPhone 15 Pro (which has excellent video quality but only if used in prores log with external SSD and still continues to be rather poor in low light)
the pocket 3 is less sharp bedcause it has a sensor for 4k video similar to the A7s3 has a disadvantage over the A7IV which downsamples video. also compared to the pocket 2 which has more pixels to work with.
The pocket 3 has another major problem: rolling shutter. It is noticeable when filming outside of a train but also when turning the camera to selfie mode. All straight lines are slanted. This is strange because the sensor is just a 4k sensor so readout speed should not be a problem, but unfortunately it is. So a smartphone might be the better choice...
@@instatripThat's what ND filters and pro settings on the camera to control shutter and iso are for. Honestly, you should not be having issues like that, if so, very minimal at worst. It's a 1" CMOS sensor with under 10 megapixels for smoother recording, faster processing power, and low light capability. There are other good informative videos on the P3 which showcase it's true potential. This truly isn't one of them.
While I agree with you Ryan on 'Active Track' being a great feature, for me the best feature is how it handles low light and not just at night. Can you imagine the last portion of your video at beautiful KLCC Twin Towers shot on the iPhone or GoPro?
First off, you're comparing apples and oranges when comparing the OP3 to a GoPro and an iPhone. Completely different is the fixed focus of the GoPro. Then you compare an ALWAYS horizon level OP3 with an iPhone that is NEVER 100% leveled, plus a 1" sensor with both other candidates. That isn't a proper comparison.
yes the phone is a better camera, it has multiple lenses, but the pocket 3 overall performance is superior 😂 it has a better sound recording system, remote control, external microphone, built in in gimbal, longer recording time, 4k 120 , and preformed better in low light. but you are correct a phone can do just as well with the correct accessories. saludos
The Pocket 3 has a 1 inch sensor with large pixels, meaning it's great in low light. No phone can come close to that. Also the gimbal is very different from electronic stabilisation like you get in a phone. Try filming with your phone in low light at a slow shutter speed and the footage will be unusable. The only downside of the Pocket 3 is the fixed aperture and focal length. I can live with the fixed aperture as with that wide angle lens giving a wide DoF, it's often not required to close the aperture down anyway. Even without the ability to zoom into something, I'd still choose almost anything over an overpriced phone with tiny sensor and full of over-processing. Oh and a lack of weather-proofing is a downside too, but that's the same for any gimbal that I know of.
I think you're getting the terms "better" and "practical" mixed up. And, I dont even think a phone is more practical. If you vlog with it you can either use a poor quality selfie camera, or use the main one to have no idea what you're filming. No wireless monitoring, no face tracking. The only thing that is more practical about phones is that it's faster. And maybe that you can shoot in the rain with it, but how often do you need to do it. Pocket 3 is highly practical and good quality. iPhone is decent when the light is good but once it gets a bit dark or you're shooting indoors, it's quite unusable.
The only huge difference I see here is that the Pocket 3 gives you the mirrorless look, more cinematic, even the colours are not that processed like on my iPhone and that it's a huge win in my opinion, just for the image alone I would get it.
Respectfully I completely disagree with your bias towards smart phones. The footage off a smart phone is not as nice as the pocket 3 because its just handheld. Its shaky and looks crap. Also its quite bulky to film with as well. I can just put the pocket in a jacket and whip it out and also its quite handy to be able to flip the gimbal direction. You get much better pan and sweep motions with the pocket. I wish they would give the pocket an bended handle attachment
Thanks for your comment! there really are so many factors that go into making a decision and it’s completely different for each person. When it comes down to image for sure the OP3 wins and it is a better camera. My point is more that is it THAT much better for what I need it for with all the other cameras I have. I really don’t think there’s a definitive answer.
I certainly don’t feel like I have a bias towards the iPhone over the OP3 but my point was more that for some their phone might be better and to de mystify all the hype around buying a OP3
As an S24 ultra user, I still need the pocket 3 - better image quality (more noticeable in larger screen) - the selfie on the phone's camera is nowhere near comparable to the pocket for self shots. Can use the back camera but not being able to see is a big con - phone is distracting with calls, notifications, etc. - gimbal has it's own set of cinematic look which we can't recreate with EIS or DIS
This is a bit like someone making a video about whether a hammer is better than a screwdriver. A gimbal camera and a phone are two completely different animals for different creative purposes. To make a valid comparison, you'd have to mount the phone on a gimbal. Gimbals are not just about tracking and stabilising. They enable a range of shots that cannot be achieved in any other way. For instance - sorry to bore people who have seen me use this example in other comments - recently I had the pleasure of making a video about an Indian festival being held in a suburb of Melbourne, Australia. At night, hundreds of people were dancing in the festival field, lit by floodlights, while (very loud!) music played. But beside the crowd a small child sat in a plastic chair, eating an ice cream cone. So with the aid of the Pocket 2 (I don't have the 3 yet, I'm saving up!) on its remote control extension rod, I was able to take in the dancers from a high level, monitoring via the app on a phone attached to the rod, then swing down to a closeup of the child with the ice cream, using the tilt lock of the gimbal to ensure the camera didn't end up pointing at the grass. Then up in the air again to watch the dancing continue. With a phone you could do it but it would have to be on a gimbal with an extension and you'd probably not be able to see much of what it was shooting. And it would be rather conspicuous. Likewise with an action camera - EIS isn't good in that kind of lighting, and again, you'd need a gimbal of some sort to make it work. So - phone or Pocket 3 choice depends very much on the task in hand. Yup, there are occasions when a phone might be the better choice. And vice versa. First define the task, or the most likely range of tasks, then deploy the right camera for the job. Is anyone still awake? :)
Thanks for your message, I see your point and agree with much of it, but for my particular use case (and many others), I think it will be used more like a convenient and easy vlogging / travel camera and I’m not sure those more thought through crane shots are going to be a priority. I might be wrong though. Regardless, thanks for your input!
This is an odd video to make to me. It's basically taking a product YOU or someone like you wouldn't normally care to use and tell why you wouldn't care to use it. It's as if there is an assumption that most people that buy the Pocket 3 are wanting it to replace their cell phone. If that's the case, that's new to me. Because I saw this as something for a vlogger or even help in making an indie film or something like that. Even for marketing products and making videos that require a person to stand in front and make some type of video. I mean, I'm a photographer and that's like me saying hey, it's quicker to pull out my Samsung S21+ than it is my D-SLR. That makes no sense to compare. Besides, there's no cell phone that I know of that has the features and even quality as the Pocket 3. It's a tech that has a different purpose. So the phone ISN'T probably better for most people that buy the Pocket 3. Just like I know a cell phone isn't better than my D-SLR and all it can do. Different strokes scenarios.
What a bad comparison in some facts... Turn off your iPhone and turn it on how long does it take to make a shot? Can it follow you automatically? Image quality in lower light Osmo is much better. And so on, so the comparison is not really fair.
Thank you for your post 👍👍👍. I take video on causal occasions and for sharing on social media, more like vlogging style. I agree most part of it. If I may add, I don’t like Pocket 3’s lens flare and I found it a bit disturbing kind. Otherwise, it is my go to video camera in a low light condition. My standard gear: when lighting condition is good, then I use GoPro 9 (often with a media mod and Sennheiser MK200) and occasionally with with Max lens mod, and almost always with a Magnetic Swivel Clip as a handle or table tripod, or clip it on my sling bag or on my jackets or shirts for carrying it around. For a very quick takes with a longer focus lens, I may use iPhone 13 Pro of back cam lens. When in a low light condition, Pocket 3 without hesitation . When I want unusual looking video, Insta360 One X (but in a low light condition, it is not ideal at all). For hard to reach small places like inside a glass, a jar, a bag etc, Insta360 Go II (but one needs optimal lighting condition). I have my own measurement of quick operational practicality. I measure how many physical steps I need to take from being in a carried stage (e.g. in a bag, a pants pocket, carried around your neck) to shooting and back to the carrying stage, plus time needed to do so. GoPro is fastest in my case. E.g. 1. unclip from my sling bag, 2. check the lens clean, press the power on bottom to start shooting. iPhone takes longer. 1. take out of a pocket, 2. check lens is clean, 2b. most of the time I need to clean the lens, 4. swipe for camera, 5. choose video mode, 6. shoot. Pocket 3: 1. take out of my pocket, 2. take it out of a carrying case (and im always careful not to stress the gimbal when taking it out of the case), 3.put back a carrying case to my pocket, 4. flip screen to start shooting, 4b. But often I need to use the gimbal joy stick to set the camera angle. I have Rhodes Wireless Go but hardly use for my style of shooting but almost always go for the Sennheiser. The reason is it takes a few steps too many for me to start shooting, I.e. 1. power on the receiver, 2. Power on the transmitter, 3. check the connection established, 4. check the gopro screen if Mike input working . But with Pocket 3, and enabling. It just need to power on on the wireless mic, less steps or hassle. I like that.
Are you sure you were comparing the pocket to the iPhone , you just got so many things wrong. Worst review I’ve seen of the pocket 3. You didn’t even know that you can begin recording by just flicking the screen and the stabilising is so much better on the pocket 3.
Fresh perspectives and valid critiques! I think one area worth mentioning is the degraded performance of digital stabilization in low light. Your night shots with the Pocket 3 looked awesome. I’m curious why you chose iso 400 for your max. Does noise shoot up at 800?
The OSMO Action 4 is the camera that should be compared with the GoPro. As far as the iPhone comparison, all cameras are going to be challenged in that comparison, especially when the comparison is framed as "practical". I use the Pocket 3 to augment my Sony A7IV. So any movement from one location to another location I use the Pocket 3. Basically, I take advantage of the gimbal, which is why this thing exists.
low light iphone is worse ..over video quality P3 much better ..i have iphone 13 and P3 too. I wanted to buy an iPhone15pro and very good decision not to buy it and prefer P3
Lol, you think iPhone wins with its on-board mic? No, far no. I'm a sound engineer, and compared the two. DJI on board mic has MUCH BETTER quality of sound... Actually, the Pocket series have the best on board mic of any device....
Thanks for your review, I have watched >10 reviews always glowing positive but I was always left wondering but my phone kinda looks better. I wont use this for vlogging or the active track much so what am I really buying it for? To free up my phone/better low light shots. It's a lot of money for just that, the only other reason id buy it is to get more excited about filming while traveling, but then again that's more of a me thing I guess
If the iPhone is better because 1) you already probably have it on you and 2) more people are used to seeing one, then by that metric an iPhone is better than ANY camera. That's not really a tech comparison, and I could excuse it if this wasn't clearly intended to be a tech review.
Tbh...a phone on a gimbal will do everything an Osmo 3 or 2 will do, including face tracking. Imo, the main advantage of an Osmo Pocket of any type is that you can film more discreetly in unsafe areas or places like malls where you are technically not allowed to film. For filming discreetly a Pocket 2 is actually better than a 3 as it is smaller and it does not have that horizontal screen that widens the profile.
I'd agree with a lot of that. Perhaps the phone is more discreet though as everyone has one. Pocket 2 is definitely smaller. The real advantage here is the sensor in low light.
Excellent video!! The only reason I’m interested in this cam is because of the tracking feature. I have the GoPro 12 creator and an iPhone 12 pro max, but the ability to have a camera track me while I talk is awesome. Thanks for answering my questions Cheers
As a pocket 2 user who used it for vlogs, I agree strongly with phone being better. What makes the Pocket great is also its biggest flaw which is The Gimbal ,due to the fragile nature of it I always found myself having to bring along the hard shell that the pocket comes with and storing it in there for protection of the gimbal i would never put it in my pocket without it as that will be a disaster waiting to happen and because of this whenever there was something i wanted to film quickly id miss the shot due to having to take it out the shell , wait for camera to boot up etc. As a vlogger I found zero use case of the gimbal besides transitioning from selfie mode to shooting whats ahead of me. I wont even make this a debate about quality because the best looking camera is the one you always have with you and the Pocket just isnt that atleast it was not for me. I wanted a camera where i could shoot a scene for 1 or 2 minutes put it in my pocket move along until i see something interesting or have an interesting conversation and the put it back after but the tedious and time consuming nature of taking it out of the case and waiting for it to boot just made it an inconvienience to bring the camera with.
You make a lot of valid points. It’s certainly not for everyone, and that is one of my biggest points. Just because it’s the latest DJI product doesn’t mean you need it. For some a phone is better.
Excellent review of the Pocket 3. I think it has it's place when it comes to content creating but I think having an arsenal of different cameras is the best way to go (if you can afford it of course) I might pick this camera up in the future but the price is too high as of now. Thanks!
Action 4 is way better, when is turned off, if you press record the camera starts in 1 second and then records, then when you press stop it powers down in 3 seconds. Genius!
Awesome video... I dont have a high end phone, and don't plan to get one really... I have been looking at a Fujifilm X-S10 , for both stills and video....my current DSLR is old, starting to fail, and doesnt have a microphone input . It also only does 1080 video. I just havent been able to swing the funds for something in that price range. I am wanting to start making some RU-vid videos, and I think this camera is just the ticket to get me started ... then maybe down the road i can get a nice mirrorless camers too, and then use the Osmo Pocket 3 for B roll and for certain situations... Let me know if you think this camera would be a good way to start making videos for RU-vid. Cheers
Hi Ryan, I've got a Samsung S23 Ultra and am deciding to whether buy a gimbal for my mobile or Pocket 3. The family and I are going to Disneyland this year, which do you think would be a better buy. I like the fact that the pocket 3 is lighter to carry around. Thanks Sam
That’s a tricky one, I’m inclined to say the phone and the gimbal, but then again. There’s no doubt the OP3 is better quality and will save you draining your battery. Sounds like a fun trip!
i would be holding it in my hand if i am wandering in the city because of its form factor but not the iphone, so basically it can be as fast when booting up rather than draining my phone battery and be occupied not able to check the msgs, maps or search on web, pocket 3 is reliable enuf i can record with decent quality without the necessity to focus like a filming crew now all we need is the waterproof protective case, anyway phones or camera are also still needed for taking pictures
If my phones front camera was as good as its back camera I probably wouldn’t have bought it. Plus my phone can’t take that much video recording with how big iPhone files are
I think the Pocket 3 is amazing! I probably won’t buy it because I take a lot of video on my iPhone and the Pocket 3 seems to “just” do the same but mostly better, while the Insta360 does things my phone simply can’t. So that’s gonna be my next purchase. But if money wasn’t an issue, I’d buy both
Can you charge it while using it like a phone? I was going to get it for live streaming but 166 minutes isn’t anywhere near long enough & if you cant change the battery over while live streaming then it’s useless unless you want to stream for under 166 minutes, which it’s probably great to use while doing bush walks running at a protest anything where your moving fast, but live streaming can go from a few hours to 24 hours without it stopping, S23 is the best for live streaming I have my IPhone 14 pro max I use for everyday use but the Samsung S23 for live streaming
I would say it depends on your financial situation. If you have the money to burn for sure, it's a great tool. My point was that if you're financially stretched and have a new-ish phone, that should suffice. I think everyone feels the pressure to just run out and buy the latest DJI products (me included) but I wanted to try and look at it from a different perspective. Hope it was somewhat valuable.
@@RyanOsmondwhat about me. I own moto edge 30. I never buy an expensive mobile phone because they don't work after 3 years. It's easy to replace a cheap one. But now I want a vlog camera. Should I go for pocket 3 or a Google pixel or samsung. Not an iphone fan.
Excellent video. Really thought provoking in terms of “do I really need this?” After your video, I am leaning towards no. I do really love the low light capabilities. However, I could probably get that with my GoPro if I invest in a gimbal. 🤔
Really great review as you were demonstrating the practicality of this device. I just bought this thing and waiting for it to be delivered but I primarily want to use it for behind-the-scenes footage at my job without burning battery on my phone which I also use for my job.
Thanks for your response, it seems that the problem is with an EU requirement to limit the temperature to 48°C. Sourcing outside the EU means there is no problem..
That night footage looks premo, not as good as a mirror less? Jeez I don't know if there's a difference is it worth worrying about, it looks astounding as is.
Welcome to Kuala Lumpur! Recommend you try local food.... go to Kampung Baru.. Its near to KLCC.. N yess.. Your video is getting better and better, hope you can get more views and subscriber!
iPhone is better??? Under the sun the screen becomes black and unusable. you cannot replace the battery and you must always carry a power bank, It doesn't have a one-inch sensor or the same stabilization above all in low light. I would also add that a pro costs double and that it is not a dedicated device.
phone might be quicker but umpff crooked, less pro looking deoending on how its used. id say the osmo pocket 3 is for someone who wants to up video production. and just like any gadget, you master it if you wanna use it. as per ruggedness, waterproof-- its not made for it hence its not fair to compare to features not built for it. should compare whatever is almost same feature of each. but yeah i understand its your opinion according to your usecase not as a global thing
Why do I find the osmo footage to look very overblown, too white. That becomes even more clear when doing comparison with other cameras side by side. Every single vlog I watched with the osmo, I notice right away!
i have the mic 1 or bought it 1 week ago :/ and thinking about buying pocket 3, doas it fit the case with the reciver that you have to put on the pocket 3? thank you for an great review! :D
A gimble trumps optical iS everytime. An iPhone has as good video I'm told. A GoPro is water proof. The Pocket 3 in filmmaking can match perfectly with any DJi drone. Also active track is amazing. It also has incredible low light. It uses DLogM which is still very contrasty and not very flat at all. Put this thing on a boom pole and use active track and you get amazing footage. If you need that journalistic instant shooting experience ok maybe the iPhone is what you need but even then an iPhone has to be in you hand and also what if you're actually on the phone. Remember it is a phone at the end of the day.
The lightweight camera with small footprint, clear and stable video, the nice low light shooting blinded me for some time - but then I realised that as a family vacation shooter this camera is USELESS if it does not offer OPTION of infinite focus. If I cannot get my subject and the surroundings ALL in focus, then that defeats the whole concept of vacation shooting - the bokeh effect (background blurring) is a massive hindrance than of benefit. Maybe if you are showcasing a product or person. Or trying cinematic storytelling - you may find it useful. But for millions of simple vacationers like me - who just desired crisp super stable video while travelling, taking in all of the surroundings - this lack of universal focus is a deal breaker. Lucky I stopped just short of making payment for it.
You're probably correct... I've heard the active stabilisation is pretty good though on the iphone 15 pro max. Would be cool to do a test in good light.
Witch is better? My Samsung Galaxy A13 or my Pocket 3? Wery easy.... you cant use a Pocket 3 with a A13. The DJI Mimo app you need to have instaled on your phone, is not possible to instal on a A13 so make shure your phone suports the mimo app
I don’t have ND filters for it yet, so I just put it in “pro mode” and changed the color profile to D-log M then put my max iso to 400 - the rest is auto.
Great vid Ryan. Do you think it possible to attach the Mic 1 receiver via USB c male female cable so as to place it out away from your hand grip. Maybe put a velcro dot to hold it somewhere else.
Your phone probably better? I really love my iPhone 15 Pro Max but in low light the wide and tele lens is not effective. Also I’m using black magic app to get v-log so even when I’m using Osmo Mobile 6 I don’t have tracking mode. I’m not sure what is better.
Thanks. Yes in many ways that is more convenient! I also like that because all the footage is on one card and one place. That is easy to transfer from…. Thanks for watching and your kind comment 👍
@@RyanOsmond I'm totally with you on this. And sometimes I just need the feeling of taking the serious shots/footage with a real camera. It just feels better. You know what I mean? Sounds kind of weird to be honest. 😁
It is pretty good, but you do need to charge again mid day if you’re filming lots. They do have a battery extension too. Charging is fast too. But yeah it’s definitely not replaceable
I still have my original Osmo Pocket and the battery life is as good as when I got it. Be good and don't fast charge too often and when not in use for long periods store it with 40% battery charge. The one good thing about the Osmo Pocket is stealth. People tend not to notice it as much as using a phone so you don't get people constantly staring at you while in use. Down side is you do need to check you can unlock the Pocket with your phone when you get it. Not all smart phones will work with the Osmo Pocket.
I see a lot of dislikes. Even though I don't agree with some of your points. I see that you put a lot of effort into this vid, so I liked the vid. I guess your point was if you already have an iPhone you don't need Pocket3 for that price. But if you value quality of a picture more, and your phone isn't that good. as an iphone. then I would rather get Pocket 3, than iPhone.
Thanks, yes my point was mainly to say, just because it’s new and everyone is saying it’s awesome, doesn’t mean you necessarily have to run out and buy it. Your phone might be adequate. So many tech manufacturers now put out such strong and glamorous marketing that it makes people feel like they have to buy the latest and greatest product and what they have is in adequate. And I’m just trying to prove the point that your phone might do the job for you almost as well. And in some scenarios better!
Sorry if it let you down. I did actually have a more in depth conclusion but I took it out because I felt like it would have been more repeating of the points I already made. Maybe I’ll keep it in next time.
I think the P3 is a bit of a niche product. The scenario I can think I'd use it, is for my small Ratrig slider for food video slides, it could track the centre of the product as I slide. Even then there is a problem tho, as its 20mm Id have to either crop in post or use the 2X zoom, so the footage may not look that good. Im not sure tho as I only shoot vertical for social media, it may be ok, Ive not seen anyone try it.
I guess since there's nothing written anywhere. that there is a IPX 0 rating for the OSMO? so if water gets splash on like from a passing car & puddle I'm screwed???
