@@lizwilson51 in this case I disagree on Djokovic statement. Sinner is totally innocent and Djokovic pointed out only on the equality of treatment which is fair but not linked to the question he received from the journalist.
@@nathanrsm73 So are Tara Moore, and Simona Halep...And Yet, They were dragged through the mud, and through a long suspension and suffered long delays in the Law Courts... to clear their name! You are being Disrespectful towards the innocent players, who Suffered Greatly and never had the PREFERENTIAL Treatment - like SINNER had!
The guy is incredible. Always an over achiever. He can speak 11 languages. In just English I’ve always been amazed how well Spoken he is. Even slang and sense of humor etc. He really knows the language well.
How can you treat in the same way someone who provides every single proof of their innocence with someone who provides none, how does your justice work? xD
@@biomax1864 how his head works: the popularity opinion is to criticise , he will criticise, if the popular opinion is to defend the player he will defend the player. These people just follow the current
I think Murray would be better at that. He's more level-headed and fair and frank than any of the Top 3. He's also respected and in the past had been an advocate for various worthy causes.
What happens here, is that djokovic is always in steorids but hides it but defending other who also are in em. But im trying do shine the thruth about this sithyy players myself by winning 30 grand slams and showing everyone that i can be better with the steroids thta tey use
@a.m.m5020 my dad is dead, since my age of 2 so resorting to insulting my family is a low move. Federer was performing on extremely high level even older than djokovic? Does it mean he was on steroids too?
ENOUGH WITH THE USELESS CHATTER AND FALSE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN A FALSE REALITY ABOUT SINNER. THIS IS THE VERDICT OF ITIA, READ IT. www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
The fact that every player parses their words so carefully tells that nobody wants to say anything controversial right before the last Major of the year. There doesn't seem to by a unifying feeling behind Sinner, which is probably more the fault of how the situation was handled than his actual innocence or guilt. Tennis is not doing itself any favors at the moment with its wildly inconsistent application of its own rules...we saw it again in Winston-Salem with Michelson not getting defaulted after striking a fan with an angry ball.
I believe that in Jannik's case, the difference with others similar cases consist in the fact that his team was immediately able to give a satisfactory and proofed explanation. What has not been said is that after the first test the commitee answered back, if your justification is true in the second test we should expect this amount of substance left in your body. The number matched and that's the reason why they didn't further punished him, also the quantity, apparently, wouldn't improve the performance.
Cheater. He will be banned from the sport. This is not going away. Real anti-doping agencies are getting involved. The media and the hired shills on social media will gaslight you until the end. Remember Lance Armstrong.
@@miloshevmilos4392 everything is important in order to determine the innocence or the guilt, and for sure the quantity counts. If I understood well, when a person in this situation is able to give an explanation and this explanation is consistent and verifiable, then that dictates the outcome, and I believe that the standard at the moment is based on this.
You know what's annoying about Djokavic fans. I wonder if he had been 80th in the world for 20 years and never won any tournaments you'd still praise him. Bandwaganing at its best.
@@astrahcat1212 Serbia have many players just like you described it, whole Nation knows them and respect them... some of them beat you many timers in Davis Cup.
@@astrahcat1212 So, in your country you give the same treatment to an athlete who is the best of all times and some random player? Do you people even listen to yourselves?
The integrity of GOATkovic is flawless. He almost always sides on the right side, irrespective of if the establishment is sitting on the other side. He has a brave heart for sure and def not the lapdog like the other 2 greats.
He didn't say much, just things about that PTP that no player cares about. Then, he said they should have clear protocols and standards for all the players, which is true.
The most lucid and rational response was from Novak. Jannik, imo, was let down by two careless members of his team. The nub is, as Novak said, that the ability to have the means (money) to get the best representation counts. In the news now is the Mike Lynch case. He drowned in his yacht while celebrating the positive outcome of his 10 year battle in the US courts. This battle cost him $30m. He stated, before he died, that, had he not had these funds, he would not have had justice. He also said that this system of justice is unequal, that justice should not depend on money. But, unfortunately, it does, especially in the US, in the rule of law in general.
What I'm sure of is, if they found this substance in Novak, it would be the end for him. They would bury him. Novak is on point in this case, well spoken man.
You are wrong Djokovic is the biggest player in tennis, but because of Federer’s advanced age and injuries, as well as Nadal’s injuries, it was necessary to have a famous player. Therefore, due to the support of sponsorship, advertising and betting companies, Djokovic was protected, but after his retirement, documents will be published that condemn him and expose his use of doping.
Novak really knows how to lay the cards clearly on the table without beating around the bush! A call for change as obviously power and money play a huge part in swinging the pendulum in the player's favour.
He repeated a dozen times themes that wanted to imply that Jannik was a drug addict and then ran away. A hypocrite who went around and around without having the balls to accuse. A very small coward.
ENOUGH WITH THE USELESS CHATTER AND FALSE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN A FALSE REALITY ABOUT SINNER. THIS IS THE VERDICT OF ITIA, READ IT. www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
As an outsider's point of view, yes Yannik is innocent. But having that "thing" in his system, surely aided his strength in playing which makes it not fair with other players.
you don't know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
@@Piedpied951It's not about experience or age because Đoković was always speaking facts! Take a look at other older athletes and you will notice that they can't talk like Novak and he is the smartest among all tennis players. When Đoković was very young he was saying Kosovo is Serbia! While that time the western countries were trying to separate that part of Serbia and they are still trying! You don't know much about Đoković but even less about Serbia and Serbian brave people!
You call them correct? I call them hypocrites. They know very well that the percentage in the blood was 0.000001 milligrams, a quantity declared inconsistent and checked with the quantity that can be assumed for a very small error of the physio, TRANSMITTED BY THE CARE OF HIS FINGER AND HANDLING SINNER WITHOUT GLOVES. TO THESE ENVIOUS PEOPLE I SAY THAT YOU MUST BEAT SINNER ON THE FIELD NOT TALKING LIKE BROKEN RECORDS, WITHOUT HAVING THE BALLS TO OPENLY ACCUSE HIM. SHAME.
Risposte a metà, ci sta, perché sono degli avversari del ns Jannik. Chi afferma che per Jannik è stato fatto un percorso speciale o che doveva essere fermato immediatamente dopo le 2 analisi con Clostebol o che dovevano Sinner e ITIA far sapere subito di cosa era accaduto, dimenticano e aggiungo anche delibiramente: Marco Bortolotti ha avuto lo stesso trattamento di Jannik Sinner, Jannik Sinner ha immediatamente capito da dove venivano i milardesimi di Clostebol che gli esperti considerano che non ha avuto NESSUN effetto doping, che la riservatezza fino a delibera sono a tutela di chi viene accusato di Doping. Invece la questione vera è che si è fatto un polverone per una leggerezza aggiungo grave che non ha comportato nessu effetto dopante, anzi, adesso Sinner viene crocifisso e portato come cattivo esempio. Sempre di più FORZA JANNIK!!! 💪🎾🇮🇹👏
@@MondoRockGP Dobbiamo capire che Nole è anche un politico, la sua PTPA non dico che è in guerra ma sicuramente non è molto amica dell'ATP, quindi ogni occasione è buona per tirare acqua al suo mulino
@MondoRockGP bro shutup. You've pasted the same comment everywhere. No one's gives a shit for Ur stupid explanation. Carrot head tested positive. Simple
They know very well that the percentage in the blood was 0.000001 milligrams, a quantity declared inconsistent and checked with the quantity that can be assumed for a very small error of the physio, TRANSMITTED BY THE CARE OF HIS FINGER AND HANDLING SINNER WITHOUT GLOVES. TO THESE ENVIOUS PEOPLE I SAY THAT YOU MUST BEAT SINNER ON THE FIELD NOT TALKING LIKE BROKEN RECORDS, WITHOUT HAVING THE BALLS TO OPENLY ACCUSE HIM. SHAME.
@@MondoRockGPthe quantity you're talking about is only the trace they found. It's not the original amount. By the way, are you a bot or what? You leave the same comment over and over again.
All Sinner's previous tests were negative. According to Roddick, if Sinner was using that actual substance in those quantities deliberately, he must be the worst doper ever!!!
@@b.hornetiii.6771 I remember the face expression of many players when Djokovic did not want to get vaccinated. He said that it was a personal choice. Never seen a personal choice that makes people at risk of becoming sick themselves. As unvaccinated people may spread the virus. Particularly considering that the people at risk were seniors and people with underlying conditions.
Cheater. He will be banned from the sport. This is not going away. Real anti-doping agencies are getting involved. The media and the hired shills on social media will gaslight you until the end. Remember Lance Armstrong.
It is not up to tennis players associations to judge on doping. He just seized an opportunity for marketing himself and his organization, at the expense of poor Sinner who's evidently innocent and he knows that. Politics should be kept out from this.
@@daniele8716 What I took from Djoker was that the PTPA was not to judge but make sure every player regardless of status would have a proper defence via the union. I agree Sinner seems innocent but be did get caught twice...
@@stevelily1763 😂😂 keep trying. Who gave jokecovid the “secret” magic potion in the middle of a game? Who didnt wanted to get tested before davis cup game? Who has a weird chip on his chest and never spoke about it? Who is still fit at 37 only a couple weeks after surgery?? Must be superman! 😂😂
The Bortolotti case should have been brought to the attention of the media immediately, at least his colleagues could do without fueling untrue rumors. He had the same problem as Sinner and the same resolution even though we are talking about the number 350 in the world. Far from favoritism for the number 1. Furthermore, Bortolotti, like Sinner, is Italian and this is not a coincidence. The product in question, which is used via spray, is on sale in Italy without a medical prescription to buy it. This can certainly increase the probability of error.
I think Djokovic is very gutsy by tackling the governing body and continuing to promote his PTPA which is a thorn in the ATP's eye. Fuming against Sinner or his allegedly jealous opponents is the easier thing to do. Fritz basically said the same thing but less well spoken than Djokovic, but Novak has the advantage of a native speaker. Oh wait.
But why does everyone think that the rules were not the same for everyone? Sinner clarified this in a press conference. He said that he was not suspended because he was able to IMMEDIATELY demonstrate both when and how he was infected by the substance. His explanation was considered valid, so there was no need to proceed with the preventive suspension. Players who receive an immediate suspension is because they do not know how they were infected and must investigate what happened.
This is the very reason that it's fishy in my mind... He immediately knew what was the problem... unless you do it on purpose you cannot immediately know or have a reason. It's like his team was ready in case he got caught. A well oiled machine.
@@Arlhem Does it seem strange to you?? How can a quantity of less than a billionth of a gram make you suspicious? It is an infinitesimal quantity, completely insufficient to cause even the slightest physical benefit. Fortunately for him it was easy to immediately trace the problem because a member of his team, the one in charge of massaging Sinner, was treating a wound on his hand, so suspicions immediately fell on that ointment. In fact they saw immediately that the ointment contained the incriminated substance, but the player could not have known it. I think it was wrong to release the news. Anti-doping organizations should only make a news public when a quantity considered sufficient to increase physical performance is detected in the blood. Here we are talking about less than a billionth of a gram. Letting the news out damaged Sinner's image for no reason.
@@danielexcf789 you realize that an infinitesimal quantity as you call it can show up in the system because it has been 3 to 6 weeks since the last doping took place? you cannot use this as a proof of innocence; try again. the entire story with the cut and the spray is a complete joke. he is world number one and wants us to believe he is surrounded by a physio and a conditioning coach who are amateurs? the exact opposite is likely the case!!!!
Jean-François Naud, director of the WADA laboratories in Montreal; Xavier de la Torre, scientific director of the WADA laboratories in Rome; David Cowan, professor emeritus at King's College London and head of the WADA laboratories in London (the three experts of the medical commission called to confer with the independent tribunal that judged the case) said in their technical report that the accidental contamination is not only possible, but in this case it is the most plausible explanation. Notice: they didn't even know the name of the player. The analyse was anonimous, so that their opinion could not be influenced.
To all the ignorant people that are commenting on this unfortunate episode (that’s clear) . Point 1: Did He takes vantage with 000000000.1 billion grams to improve performance???? NO. Point 2: why they didn’t stopped him from playing? Just because the situation was straight away clarified, and they found out where the doping was coming from. Point 3: STOP speculating on rubbish. He is the really number 1 and He is showing to everyone.
If they knew (immediately) where it came from then they knew it was a banned substance! = 0% (zero) tolerance! Excuses because they got caught! Why didn't Sinner sack his staff immediately, why wait till public backlash? They found the substance when it was already waning in his body, imagine if they tested him a month before? The billionth of a gram is actually a significant amount as these steroids are measured in nanograms. They don't stay in the body for long, but are quite effective. Your argument is pointless because no one believes it. Stop insulting everyone's intelligence dude!
you know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
@@Piedpied951When he was very young he was saying Kosovo is Serbia! While that time the western countries were trying to separate that part of Serbia and they are still trying! You don't know much about Đoković but even less about Serbia and Serbian brave people!
I agree that the rules should be the same for everybody, going forward. So, let's move forward. We can't change the past for other players, so blaming Jannik for passionately defending himself against a disqualification from the sport which has been his whole life and villifying him will not help anyone. Jannik's case will probably help players in the future in similar cases.
It is completely irrelevant now who is saying what! Rules are rules and they must be equal for everyone and strictly followed! If it is not so, then they are not rules, and without them there is no system. Without a system, there is no sport and everything is a farce and a joke. Tennis is one of the sports that is completely tainted by politics and hypocrisy. Novak Djokovic has completely exposed all that and that's actually why he is the GOAT in every sense!
Sbagli. I casi sono diversi e non tutti uguali . Sinner non ha assunto nulla per via orale,come altri Sinner ha dimostrato al 100% di essere innocente a differenza di altri .Giusto quindi farlo giocare.
why? Because he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words. After 20 + years and 24 slams, you should have gained some right to represent all other (younger) players. Only what, maybe two other players older than him? ( Within top 150)
Sinner and the Failed Drug Test: 1) the substance is an off-the-counter spray readily available in the Italian market. His team should was careless not to have pre-checked the substance. 2) the quantity ingested was so negligible (a billionth gram) that it could not have enhanced performance. 3) Sinner was able to point to this product immediately, and investigators were able to ascertain the source; and further testing clarified that if the residue quantity matched, then that is ok. So, it was actually one failed test, not two. 4) It is doubtful whether the status or financial means of the player had anything to do with the outcome; because a 350th ranked player was also exonerated on the same product.
Officially , 2 failed drugs tests. The reason for the failure ,that has never been tested in a court of law, was accepted. The drug tested should be "zero". It should never , ever be in your test. Any amount more than "zero" is a failure. Drug cheats are extremely good at cheating the system. Zero tolerance is the only way forward. Cycling has never recovered from the drugs scandals and tennis is clearly trying to avoid that scandal but it will fall and all the players that spoke in this video clearly have something to hide. They don't talk for a reason ..what could that reason be ... Fear of ATP fines? Or do you think they have done something aswell that they would prefer to keep quiet.
Sinner's story is really suspect. They found the perfect story immediately after he was caught with the substance. In their story the substance comes from a third person. This is the scenario every lawyer would dream of.
Back in 1989, infamous Ben Johnson tested positive for the anabolic steroid stanozolol and was stripped of his gold medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics. Of the eight athletes who competed in the 100m final - five of them subsequently failed drugs tests. On the other hand, American sprinter Carl Lewis- who “won” the event, had failed 3 drug tests in the months leading up to the Olympics but the USOC covered for him so he wouldn’t be banned. Today Ben Johnson coaches aspiring soccer stars at the Genova International Soccer School in Italy. He still burns with what he sees as the unfairness of his treatment by the IOC, making conspiratorial claims that he was sacrificed while others were “protected who were taking the same thing.”
That's wild. This is why sometimes I don't care for sports it's crap like this that puts me off what's the point of watching sports if it's going to be biased and not fair? There is no point You could see the bias in Tennis easily when the big 3 were playing and that to put me off There's no respect for the players at all and some athletes already have a bigger advantage just from where they are born. Had this happened to Novak.. oh man... they probably wold have banned him for ever
Lance Armstrong ha vinto 7 Tour perché si grazie al doping ma anche perché era più forte. Anche se Fritz e Tiafoe si dopassero non vincono gli Slam perché non sono campioni ma buoni giocatori.
@@iamdaliborI’m a Novak fan, but he’s probably been covered for already - I think all of the big 3 have been covered for. Now with Novak, maybe it would be a bit different but for sure he has had special treatment.
@@nathanrsm73 Claro, porque el mundo anglosajón se ha adueñado del discurso a nivel mundial...... Si alguien está interesado en la opinión de Carlos, mejor que aprenda español y punto.
you don't know why? he's the most senior, most experienced, most, probably, respected in this field now with his peer all or almost all retired. Of course he can have that observation and audacity to say what he said. The other players are much younger! They still have a heck of a career out there and didn't or shouldn't say too much or utter too strong opinionated words.
Viktor Troicki was suspended for 18 months at the peak of his career, despite testing negative. This was solely due to a misunderstanding with the medical staff. All of his appeals were rejected.
It's clear that no one says I believe in him period. It's because they are not sure. In my case, I feel there are a lot of things that are very difficult of believing, one of the two guys in charge of Jannik physical preparation is an expert in pharmaceuticals, had already 15 years of experience in this field and also had a personal experience in a basketball team in Italy where they had a problem with the same substance "Clostebol"..... So the story of the cream and massage is not believable not from the possibility that the substance enter to the bloodstream this way, but from the point of view that these guys weren't aware of the composition of the cream.... So known in Italy and with a warning in the envelope... To conclude, two options : the entire team knew and worked with this substance and they played with the risk of being caught, because a little overdose and the controls detect the substance and they used it probably during a long time.. The other option is that Jannik didn't know what these guys are using to enhance his performance. It would be good to know if the entire team received a variable depending of the results of Jannik, if this assumption was true, we would have the reason why they used the substance without Jannik knowing...... The only thing clear here is that the procedures of Atp are everything but clear and transparents.
So, you built all this giant house of cards based on the premise that an error from the physio is not believable while a conscious decision to use a doping substance that they perfectly know is detectable in a quantity that provides zero performance enhancement is a much more believable option. In other words, for as hard as you try, you cannot think of a more logical explanation that Jannik (or his team, without his knowledge) decided to take take the 100% certain risk of destroying his career in exchange for absolutely no reward. Your hypothesis says that the risk of detection comes from an overdose. The highest amount detected in those two tests was 86 trillionths of a gram per milliliter, a quantity that generates a whopping 0% performance enhancement. And this was an "overdose". I really want to meet the genius who wrote such a devastating doping program. If he received any compensation, fixed or variable, for this then as next step he should seriously consider selling igloos to the nomadic populations of the Sahara desert.
The pharma guy was aware that the spray had a banned substance. Him having it and giving it to the physio it was certainly negligent. The most likely scenario is that he picked up some crap from the pharmacy and thought that as long as he was careful with it it wouldn't be an issue, and then wasn't careful enough. Ie incompetence. Your absurd conspiracy theories are just that - absurd.
First I heard it was a billionth, now you saw 84 trillionth, next it will be 256 quadrillionth etc. The numbers are irrelevant, why, because theyvdon't determine the time of doping which would be the highest concentrating which eventually subdues. Clostebol is used for building muscle mass which increases performance. It's logical that a tennis player or any athelete would use that in spans between tournaments determining that there wouldn't be any left in the bloodstream at the time of the tournament incase they get tested and if it was, well the result would be in the soncalled trillionths you mention. Lets face the facts, Sinners appearance definitely isn't one of Arnold Swartsineiger in his hey day, so he needs the muscle to perform at the highest level.
I don’t know the exact details of the cases of Halep, Sharapova, Cañas, Gasquet, Puerta, Brooksby, Ymer, Jarry, etc. I do know that they all got suspended or docked and Sinner barely got docked. I also know that Sinner is ranked number one and the others were not when this event happened for them. I also know that he had a very good explanation for his case. Henceforth, it’s not black and white. It’t something that needs clear protocol and all players need access to the same support systems to fight their cases.
There is a (33-page) judgment formulated by 3 of the world's top experts regarding doping (2 among them didn't even know the player's name, it was anonymous) but I'm sure that not one of the people who are commenting have read it (and will never read it). It makes comparisons with other players (usually the Halep case) not saying the key differences: Sinner and his lawyers were able to prove immediately how the fact had happened and (another thing that people in bad faith don't say), the quantity traced was completely different, last but not least, in one case it was a direct (unintentional) contamination, in Sinner's case instead it was INDIRECT and unintentional. That's why he was found NOT GUILTY (NO FAULT and NO NEGLIGENCE). This is what the judgment says, the point is that you about the judgment DON'T GIVE A FUCK, you want the "blood", you want the guilty regardless of what the judges decided, because again, you don't care about his innocence or guilt; what you want is the conviction. I forgot: the judgment is online, it can be read by anyone (I know, who care, better to wrote some bullshit comment).
Here's my opinion, Tiafoe has done too much patron, Fritz is a natural blonde, Carlos is the Spanish Jerry Lewis of tennis, Sinner looks doped already without dope, the only one addressing this situation was Novak, this is why he's the GOAT
@@shinjiuuh Me too 🤣 I can’t believe I didn’t see Jerry Lewis in Carlos before! - just watched Carlos lose in straight sets and all I saw was Jerry Lewis !!! 🤣
Nadal and Roger would have kissed the establishment boots.. I love that Novak always says what he thinks and that is the reason the establishment hates him and have always made his the “bad guy” 😂 🤡
Bro how does federer and nadal factor into this. Yall novak glazers are insane. Good on novak for speaking some sense to this situation but why tf do you have to bring the other 2 up??
did you smoke? novak anti-establishment? "and the establishment hates him" you don't know what are talking about he is part of the establishment .... and why do you have to bring Nadal and Federer into the mix?
I really don't want to doubt sinner. But to be honest, it is indeed true that his recent performance has suddenly improved by leaps and bounds... This is also something that makes me feel very suspicious... But I think Sinner failed the drug test. And twice... This really deserves a ban. After all, it was his team that had the problem. But it was his team after all. So that was also his negligence. I think we still have to follow the rules. If we should be banned, we should be banned... After all, he failed two drug tests... not just once... If you fail two consecutive drug tests, you can continue to compete... This is very unfair to other players. And don't forget... Sinner's current coach is Agassi's former coach.....Darren Cahill. If you all still remember, Agassiz published an autobiography after his retirement. He mentioned in his autobiography that he actually took an undetectable drug in the middle and later stages of his career. It made him full of physical strength and explosive power in the game. Then Agassi's coach at that time is now Sinner's coach...Darren Cahill... so... And after Sinner hired Agassiz's former coach... It is a fact that performance has improved by leaps and bounds in a short period of time. He also became the World NO.1 now.. So I really think Sinner shouldn't let him play... Rules are rules..ok
Well said. He was very fishy and I kept asking how come he stands out from the rest as his game is just ground stroke game. People Saif he hit so hard and so clean, yes, but who is not in top 20? now I know, he hits harder with no fatigue, like playing a robot. Sorry for those who didn't cheat! After Novak retires, I will stop watching tennis as it is a very corrupt game.
sure, by 10 elevated -10 g concentration of the M1 metabolite of Clostebol. Read this before answering www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf
Djokovic is a most articulate and intelligent dude, not only the 'street punk' advertised by Boris Becker. Of course he is also that, coming from war-torn Balkans with the 'Serbian burden', even 'stigma' burning his soul and all that shit plus his fierce temperament and super-human focus, perfectionism and will to win and be the best and all the other "annoying stuff" --- yeah, what a mixed bag of qualities, admirable and some maybe less so. As conflicted persona, that is, public profile as they come: a Balkan gunpowder barrel and a yogi in a perfect piece. But articulate he is and quite apt with words also.
@@lesrinewhitby4653sono assolutamente d'accordo con lei. Djokovich è sempre nitido nel suo pensiero. Alcaraz, come tutti gli ispanici, fatica a formulare un pensiero razionale pur essendo un grande giocatore.
I agree, provided that the case is the same and the conditions are the same and the consequences are the same... Nole and Fritz, two lucky guys that have never been caught, and Nole hiding and running away and providing fake documents during COVID is no saint either... all ready to throw stones at Jannik, but I'd really wish to know who is without sin
I don't understand how he is not suspended. He was tested positive twice. Than he skips two tournaments not to get tested. His statement: "people that know me know that I will never do anything illegal" and "now I know who are my friends" wtf GILTY. It is his fault, even if the member of his team exposed him to the drug which I doubt. Players are talking about him for a while that he is dope and cheat. His team knows that. Why they did not make sure that no one is using illegal drugs/spreys around him.
Marco Bortolotti does not get suspended for testing positive to the same substance and nobody cares. The number 1 does not get suspended for the same reasons and a lot of people complain. I guess it's a double standard situation. Tennis players should play tennis not doing politics or pretend to be navigated Jurists.
Clearly its because jannik is number one so people very concern about.. but as jannik said he has done anything wrong and we here to support him. i just believe this problem gona make jannik stronger
Djokovic says more thoughtful things in one answer in one presser than Nadal and Federer did during their whole careers combined. They never stood up for anybody or said anything of value. Robots without a single original thought.
Despite the name ('sinner'...), that might not help in front of a jury, I think the way the investigation team treated him was fair. Other players were treated unfairly? Well, that's not a good reason for advocating an unjust treatment for the nice Italian guy as well. Probably some of these interviews will have a bitter taste for Sinner who yesterday wisely stated that the current situation will make him understand who, among his colleagues, really is his friend.
Marco Bortolotti n.350 Atp è stato assolto allo stesso modo, Nole non è informato nessun trattamento di favore per il n. 1 trattato allo stesso modo deln.350
What a weird response-when only one player here tested positive. What happened 45 years ago is somewhat irrelevant. If everyone is doping, I guess Sinner was just real unlucky for getting caught. Meanwhile in 20 years, Djoko has never been caught in over 300+ drug tests…
@@Mark-ut5oq I think maybe you're not aware of the prevalence of doping in sport generally and tennis specifically. At least five Italian tennis players have been rung up by this Clostebol thing in recent years, but it's not just them. Agassi admitted to being on crystal meth when he was playing in the late 90s. Sharapova on meldonium in 2016. I mean... it's a long damn list.
This was my question (not statement though) too. How is possible to keep playing that much and that productive for months as Janik did during the first half of the year? There should be something taken to keep body performing consistently that well. I genuinely like Sinner and believe he's a gifted and young athlete
No, I think he sounds that way because he knows some players have been suspended not for testing positive, but for missing 3 tests in a row. I think he's definitely thinking of Jenson Brooksby, who was moving up the rankings but whose career has really gotten sidelined by this. The same thing happened to Mikael Ymer, who was so upset by his suspension that he quit the sport altogether (although I think he's since changed his mind). Point is, they received harsh penalties just for missing tests.
Did we really expect they would be on his side? Of course they are coming out with neutral statements and they shouldn’t even be asked about it. They clearly haven’t read the sentence and it’s not their job to do anything about it.
Yeah, neutrality is always the safest action because no one really knows besides Sinner and his team. Did he do it intentionally? Maybe, maybe not. Plus why would they really care anyways, the tennis season keeps going and they definitely have better things to do than read Sinner’s full case. It’s a slam and they should be training not forming judgement on a closed case.
@@dome_thelazyegg19 considering he had 86pg/mL of clostebol in his body, aka 0.000000000086g/mL, waaaaaay too little to perceive any effects, it was most likely a contamination, hence the tribunal accepting his version
The rules are standardized and there are no exemptions. Everything in this case was by the book. The only argument you can make is maybe you think they were too harsh on others in the past. In which case they can fix that going forward. But it's clear as day that Sinner is innocent in this case.
This case is totally different from the others. The presence of clostebol was absolutelly irrilevant and totally not associated to a tentative of enhancing performances. It is a case of contamination and the investigation was focused on understanding if there was a player misconduct or superficiality. But it is clear and beyond any doubt that an unvoluntary mistake of his phsiyo was the cause.
Only one curious fact connects Halep and Sinner and their innocence: their coach James Cahill. Physio was in Sinner’s case massaging and clostebol went into organism of Jannik through the wound in his finger? C’mon. It’s good that I am from Finland and I believe in Santa Claus.
@@jukkao.parviainen8669 Jean-François Naud, director of the WADA laboratories in Montreal; Xavier de la Torre, scientific director of the WADA laboratories in Rome; David Cowan, professor emeritus at King's College London and head of the WADA laboratories in London (the three experts of the medical commission called to confer with the independent tribunal that judged the case) said in their technical report that the contamination is not only possible, but in this case it is the only plausible explanation. Notice: they didn't even know the name of the player. The analyse was anonimous, so that their opinion could not be influenced. Can we say three WADA experts and University Professors believe in Santa Claus?
One thing I'd like to know, though, is what the players would say if they were asked, "Would you want to be banned for two years if you were in sinner's shoes and accidentally got the substance through contamination?" People are so quick to hand out justice and a verdict when they feel safe, but simulate a real-life experience where any of these players is implicated, and let's see if their moral standards hold.
No one is saying that though. They’re saying it’s not fair to previous players who had their reputations ruined over similar situations. Jannik and his team are spinning it like “oh because we knew the exact way it entered his system, they were able to reverse the suspension immediately” but other players have to wait months before they are even HEARD! It was an unprecedented rule change towards him and the other Italian player. Coincidentally the ATP Chairman is also Italian.
I just don't know why somebody on his "team," including Sinner, doesn't just take a lie detector test! I know they are not 100% however, they are pretty good and I would be all over it to clear my name.
@@Notlikeus1959 Another one! Here below there are a bunch of comments of people that try to analyze the situation. Some I agree with others I don’t. But I take my hat off to how people try to express their opinions considering different point of views. Then you find the people who simply … have nothing to say and they say it anyway!
But who the player is has a weight or impact on the handling. It's BS for them to say that the authority didn't know who it was, and it was only a number representing each sample/case. Don't treat us like we were two years old.
"It's not up to a player or journalist to determine if someone is innocent or guilty" Tell that to Novak who had "journalists" up his butt crack 24/7 portraying him as a bad guy constantly Those journalists sure knew who was guilty or innocent in Tennis lol We all know who out of the big 3 aye
Novak is perfect in his assessment of the circumstances of the case and its relationship to the treatment of all the players. His call for standardisation and equality in terms of legal formal and informal, procedures and practices applying to all players regardless of ranking or profile. Transparency, integrity and accountability are sadly lacking in this case. I believe it is a systemic issue rather than the fault of the player concerned with this particular case.
@@oleandreasen one of the main reasons he was cleared was because the amount they found in his body wouldn’t be enough to enhance his performance but I guess that reading is not for everyone
@@oleandreasen No, the quantity was so minimal and ridiculously low that it couldn't affect Sinner performances in any way, it was just an accidental contamination
If I were any of them, I'd say, "If I were him, and what Yanik says is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not true, I would hope the governing body would listen and hear me the same way as they listened to and heard Yanik."
When Novak was banned entering Australia, it wasnt based on medical test, they havent took rational decision based on some real evidence, but political and bureaucracy act.Healty guy, one of the best world athletes was considered high risk, who would be able to play 5 hours tennis match isnt healty.Here you have a test, medical, hemical, material proof the Sinner's body has been contaminated.Do you really believe his team on this level professional sport didnt know what they were doing. This cream had on the packaging a clear note "doping".So they dont know to read, not knowing what they were doing, and they are part of team of the world No1 tennis player.
When you visit another country and you don't follow their rules then they have every right to ban you. Don't want to follow rules don't go to said country.
@@WonderWhatHappenedWhat the hell he was doing at their border?They said at first he has all the papers needed for exemption and he may board to a plane.Thats why he was at front door, but aussie government needed a case for internal political reasons and Novak was just excellent target person.
on TOP of that, the aussie border officials put novx in a cvd prison hotel, and fed him extremely SUBSTANDARD food for a world class athlete!! thats despicable!
@@WonderWhatHappened Well then how was Nadal able to enter? He didn't quarantine the amount of days required yet he was able to enter Explain that then We been over this already Some non-vaccinated players were also already let in regardless how they did they slip in then? It wasn't a problem until Novak tried to entered of course funny that
