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DMM Hitch climber Eccentric review 

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Watch this full and in-depth review of the new DMM hitch climber eccentric pulley, an evolution of the very popular DMM triple attachment pulley within the arborist community.
This pulley was released at the end of 2019.
In this evolution of the pulley, what have DMM changed and why?
Have the changes made a difference out in the real world of tree work?
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@ericconner9971
@ericconner9971 4 года назад
New subscriber and just dipping my toe in arbor climbing. I do really appreciate the balance in this and your other reviews. Enjoy watching. Thanks.
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Thanks for your kind comments Eric, glad you enjoyed the review, I will always give my unbiased, personal opinion.
@jonassuchanek
@jonassuchanek 4 года назад
Absolutely love your review series! Also love the wall of shirts! Great setup Dan,😊
@plant.more.trees.
@plant.more.trees. 4 года назад
Thanks! I’m just starting my climbing and still on double rope+ blake’s hitch.... at some point I’ll be buying a 3 ring pulley thanks for be the good info!
@michaelsukut6101
@michaelsukut6101 4 года назад
Love the honesty and keep up the good work stay safe up there.
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Thanks for the comment 🤙
@MattGlynn
@MattGlynn 4 года назад
Brilliant review thanks Dan!
@EastyUK
@EastyUK 2 года назад
I bought this for a vary different purpose. I wanted a pulley for drt top tie in that I put on an additional line and pull up. Then when at the top a clip across from the pulley to a butterfly in the additional line for extra safety. Then I can reposition the whole drt at the top without Messing with the zig zag. Only an amateur rec climber, but it seems to work for that really well over putting up a friction saver.
@rrssmooth6643
@rrssmooth6643 4 года назад
People love your info and insight. Over 52k subscribers, that is cool.
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Thank you for your comment bro! We try and give good quality, useful information to the arb community of all different kinds
@TreeBoi4Life
@TreeBoi4Life 4 года назад
Great review I think I’ll stick to my Rapide. My first love...lol but again great break down and giving us honest positive feedback. Keep up the good work as always love the channel.
@mikeremski2102
@mikeremski2102 4 года назад
Thanks for the review. I missed the first part of the review because I was still laughing at the disclaimers. :)
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Cheers for the comment Mike! To many people across social media platforms giving biased perspectives, I need to make it clear my views are always unbiased, whether I've been given the equipment or paid for the equipment.
@mikeremski2102
@mikeremski2102 4 года назад
@@ClimbingArborist And that part of why I like your channel. "Here's my opinion based on actual use of a product. You may agree, you may disagree, but I'm not giving a paid opinion". Need more straight talk like that in the world.
@norbertocastillo8551
@norbertocastillo8551 3 года назад
Thank you for your honesty I try it too and I did not see any difference just like you say I have the old one and it works the same as the new thank you very much you save me some money I was going to buy the new one
@steeleta
@steeleta 4 года назад
Thanks for this review! Did you notice if it pushed the hitch up higher when tending slack or reduced any sitback compared to the old model?
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
The only reason it would push the hitch up higher or have slightly less setback is because the pulley is slightly longer, therefore if using the same length hitch cord it will break the hitch a touch earlier. This can be changed on the original by using a slightly shorter length of cord.
@tomgosy
@tomgosy 4 года назад
I've been using the original for ages and the eccentric on a couple of climbs. The only difference I can find is that the eccentric is bigger, heavier and it's slightly easier to tend slake thanks to the flared base. Despite that, I don't see any reason to buy the new one unless you're in the market for this type of pulley, or you want the latest thing.
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Do you actually find that it tends slack easier? That is the idea behind the flared edges but I don't think it really makes any difference in the real world...
@tomgosy
@tomgosy 4 года назад
@@ClimbingArborist If I changed my technique it might make a different, but I've noticed a difference in the way I do it.
@graysquirreltreeservice7299
@graysquirreltreeservice7299 4 года назад
Love the videos 😁👍
@1cleandude
@1cleandude 4 года назад
Great review as always Dan, well done! It looks like the Eccentric would handle larger rope or maybe the flaring creates the illusion??
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Think it handles the same diameter but it does give the impression of more space
@00vibe7
@00vibe7 4 года назад
Liking the product reviews. Should do a comparison of the rope wrench vs. The chicane with eye2eye and with mechanical
@rosariocastillo667
@rosariocastillo667 4 года назад
thank you for the video and your opinion
@mvblitzyo
@mvblitzyo 4 года назад
Excellent !!
@mrgardner6405
@mrgardner6405 Год назад
I climb with the bushing type pulley and I want to buy a newer pulley but for the amount of money the new one is and the middle hole being in line like that I say nope cause I actually like clipping into the middle hole on the old style because it is further out and just makes more sense I think easy to clip into I don't have to fight my eye to eye cord every time I unclip and clip into my system
@Beerbatter1962
@Beerbatter1962 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review. Late to the game on this video, but I still use the Hitch Climber/Rope Wrench combo. Awesome system. Honestly, I think the design goes backwards in terms of re-configuring the pulley for better integration with the Rope Wrench SRT climbing system. Aligning the holes vertically in the new pulley makes fighting for real estate between the hitch cord and the wrench even worse. The hitch cord, even in the original version, has to bend around the wrench to get by. My re-design for the wrench would have offset the center hole even more than on the original, not less. This would give the hitch cord more room to go by. And I would shift the top hole slight back from the bottom hole, (off line), so that the hitch cord doesn't half-cover that hole, making it more accessible for other accessories, like a work positioning carabiner. So in my design, none of the 3 holes are aligned with each other at all. The bottom hole is closet to the pulley, the top hole is a bit further back from that for accessories, and the middle hole is furthest away from the pulley giving ample room for the wrench. Awesome!
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 5 месяцев назад
Appreciate your comment very much 👍
@militarycutlawnservices7804
@militarycutlawnservices7804 4 года назад
Question. You said in one of your videos that the hitch climber should not be used with a termination knot when DRT. My 150’ climbing rope does not have the eyes. I would imagine that for me to use the hitch climber I would use a termination knot. And other side tie my friction knot. What do you suggest in place of the termination knot?
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original 4 года назад
Does the Eccentric's flared bottom have an advantage for rapid descent?
@1reospeed
@1reospeed 3 года назад
one year out now... do you still feel the same way? after having had the chance to use this some more, it is still not entirely needed/worth it if you already have the high climber?
@aneuris55
@aneuris55 4 года назад
Great review but now that you touched in the rope and hitch combinations i will like to ask you where could i get that rope you hot on the video??
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
NuGreen arborist supplies, its called Yale Northern lights
@micdiva
@micdiva 4 года назад
I thought your review was spot on. Imo its exactly what you said.
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Thanks for the comment 🤙
@jonathanrandall8337
@jonathanrandall8337 4 года назад
Nice extensive review! But the I think the flared edges and higher efficiency bearing is for tail deflection over limbs you've past and not brought your tail with you? Did you notice that much? Looking into buying one myself.
@jonathanrandall8337
@jonathanrandall8337 4 года назад
Particularly if you run a ring on your bridge, so the hitchclimber can't move to efficiently sort tail movement through the pulley.
@hunterhess9222
@hunterhess9222 2 года назад
Hey I'm curious if the hitch climber eccentric is safe to use on your bridge. For multiple tie in and less wear on bridge? Thanks for the video and God bless!
@lincolnnunez
@lincolnnunez 8 месяцев назад
No. When you twist and turn, there’s torsion put on the side plate and it’s not meant for that. Better off getting a swivel
@tuberider1171
@tuberider1171 2 года назад
thanks for the honest appraisal
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 2 года назад
Thanks dude, that is what we aim to do.
@eddieclark3021
@eddieclark3021 4 года назад
I think you missed the point, Dan. The Eccentric is far better, for Toby Sherrill.
@chipper442
@chipper442 3 года назад
Porsche GT3 is good enough for me.....thanks for the info. Honest and detailed.
@Rittik
@Rittik 4 года назад
I think I figured out why the WLL rating is different. If you compare the original triple attachment pulley vs the rapide, the WLL is 7kn vs 3kn. Bushings have always seemed to be stronger in the same size pulley. I's not sure why that is but I'm guessing the bushing is less resistant to crushing due to surface area? The shive on the eccentric seems larger and probably a better designed bearing to take the loads better thus going from 3kn to 6kn. Thanks for the review! I think I will be getting the eccentric to replace my original hitch climber pulley and use the original for a second line I've started to use for better work positioning.
@archersanonymous3003
@archersanonymous3003 3 года назад
yes, bushings are best for heavy slow loads, bearings best for light and fast. ISC explain this on their website.
@OlandStudio
@OlandStudio 4 года назад
LOVE
@justinsnyder6256
@justinsnyder6256 4 года назад
Only thing I can see is it would be easier on your rope with a better bend radius coming into the pully. Helpfull if your rope is going 180 up around a branch while descending. Havent tryed just my 2 cents
@danc3868
@danc3868 3 года назад
I decided to get the old one because of the middle hole. Dunno why they changed that.
@psullivan40
@psullivan40 4 года назад
Just getting started in arborist climbing, trying to save some money while building up equipment, wondering what the difference is between the DMM Hitch climber triple attachment pulley and the Epic Peak 30KN Triple Attachment Climbing Hitch Pulley?
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Watch this video, I think I explain everything you need to know
@psullivan40
@psullivan40 4 года назад
@@ClimbingArborist Hey Dan, thanks for the reply. I was actually talking about a different pully. In eBay, The Epic Peak 30KN Triple Attachment Climbing Hitch Pulley costs 1/2 as much as a DMM Hitch Climber Triple Attachment Pulley - 1/2" rope - 30KN. Honestly, I'm not trying to sell this. I just couldn't see the functional difference between the two pulleys and when I saw your video thought I would ask.
@psullivan40
@psullivan40 4 года назад
crap, I think I found my answer; Climbing Gear Strength Rating and Testing Standards outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/7344/how-can-i-tell-if-chinese-rock-climbing-gear-is-reliable I say "crap" because I couldn't resist the low price and had bought the pulley. I see no rating on this pulley and can't find any additional paperwork from the one I received. Well, there you have it, verifying the safety of safety equipment is expensive.
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Hi Paul, yes there is almost a Chinese produced version of every piece of hardware on the market. When it’s life support and when you see the processes that a company like DMM go through to manufacture their products, and the numerous safety inspections along the production line, you would never ever think twice about spend the extra dollars on the real deal as opposed to a Chinese copy. It might look the same but that is where the comparisons end. Climb safe ....
@andrewcornford2306
@andrewcornford2306 4 года назад
Good update on the HCP. Nothing to do with the HCP, not sure if you know that in the UK HSE has stipulated all tree climbing must be carried out with twin rope ( work placement and fall arrest) can you produce a video on the technique. I use a ZigZag on my work positioning rope and a Camp Goblin on the fall arrest rope.
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
I am aware of the changes in the U.K. It would be silly of me to make a video on this subject at this time, as I am not climbing in this way on a regular basis, so my viewpoint wouldn't be a true reflection of you guys and girls in the U.K. that now climb like this every day.
@andrewcornford2306
@andrewcornford2306 4 года назад
Far comment in your answer 're two rope video. Thanks anyway and keep up the great content.
@br-dj2ti
@br-dj2ti 2 года назад
When you use the hitch climber and SRT setup where do you hook your chest ascender up to on there the middle hole on the hitch climber itself thank you
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 2 года назад
You clip your neck tether or chest harness/tether to the middle hole (or even the top hole if you so wish)
@br-dj2ti
@br-dj2ti 2 года назад
@@ClimbingArborist on the actual hitch pulley correct
@hosocat1410
@hosocat1410 4 года назад
The best thing they could have done was design the eccentric holes so that a spliced end on the climbing line was no longer necessary. But I'm not sure they did this with the new design. It looks like a spliced end is still necessary to avoid interference with the friction hitch.
@scottsteele13gmail
@scottsteele13gmail 4 года назад
That’s exactly the issue that I think is the most important thing to resolve. Safety and functionality should dictate a redesign of these devices to increase the efficacy of our friction management, and avoid interference from friction setting and holding when we need it.
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original 4 года назад
You want those holes to be as close to the center of the pulley as possible, and their centers as close to each other, to reduce the loads on the frame. Leaving excess space so that the device could be used with non-spliced ends tied close would be a huge design compromise.
@iryan3938
@iryan3938 4 года назад
Will they still be producing the original hitch climber ? Or will it become obsolete ?
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Hi Issac, I don't know the answer to that. If I were to guess, I'm sure the old one will be phased out but I'm sure there are so many in circulation it will be a while...
@johnheathfield6370
@johnheathfield6370 3 года назад
Honest & professional review, thank you. Haven’t had a play myself yet but a good friend has got one, & after years of using & admiring the hitch climber, the opinion to date is they’ve pretty much tried to reinvent the wheel! 🤪
@jcevazquez
@jcevazquez 2 года назад
Hey man I know it's been a year but I'm doing research and how do you feel about the dmm eccentric as a bridge attachment?
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 2 года назад
It's not the right pulley for that job. Something like the Rock Exotica hydra would be suitable if you want multiple attachment points
@jcevazquez
@jcevazquez 2 года назад
@@ClimbingArborist thank you.
@gregbrown9271
@gregbrown9271 4 года назад
👍👍👍
@colsinclair7793
@colsinclair7793 4 года назад
Would that setup cost as much as the zigzag?
@diyarborist
@diyarborist 4 года назад
no, less than half
@colsinclair7793
@colsinclair7793 4 года назад
Diy Arborist thought it mite be round about the same! Iv got the zigzag tho after watching this I'm thinking about trying it out. Thanks👍🏻
@diyarborist
@diyarborist 4 года назад
Hard to go wrong with the zig zag
@colsinclair7793
@colsinclair7793 4 года назад
Diy Arborist i use it all the time. Tho I do like setups like that one! Good to change things up now& then.
@nguyendoan4695
@nguyendoan4695 4 года назад
The first pulley is Dmm Eccentric Hitch Climber, what's the second one?
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
DMM Triple attachment pulley (original hitch climber pulley)
@DisasterpiecesIRL
@DisasterpiecesIRL 4 года назад
I didn't see any need to change to the rapide until I tried a friends. I think it made a reasonably big difference when branch walking or working against your line(rope over a limb and not directly going to the ground) which meant I didn't have to feed my rope everywhere I went. I'd imagine this improves on this and I'd probably get one if buying a new one, although certainly not necessary
@alexisduvivier
@alexisduvivier 3 года назад
You’re right, this is the only slight evolution that you can feel. The ends of the prusik cord stick better to the pulley with the original than with the eccentric. So the prusik cord with the same length is less tight with the original than with the eccentric. Midd hole is better on the normal...
@AdvancedLawn
@AdvancedLawn 4 года назад
Subscribed. I’d love to talk and ask some questions
@DR-ge7lo
@DR-ge7lo 4 года назад
I'm still on the original trouble free.
@jorgenmalmstedt4030
@jorgenmalmstedt4030 4 года назад
Evolution is sometimes slow... comes in leaps ;)
@ClimbingArborist
@ClimbingArborist 4 года назад
Thanks for the comment 🤙
@jrstrange123
@jrstrange123 4 года назад
Anybody here still using a blakes hitch on the other end of the climb line to create a v-rig? 🖐
@chrismoon1584
@chrismoon1584 4 года назад
I use a regular micro pulley and cant think of any reason to spend the 75 on a pulley that is used just for tending slack. My rope wrench has an attachment point for a chest harness so maybe that's why I dont see the need for three holes. What am I missing here...
@joshuaekker8396
@joshuaekker8396 4 года назад
44444444RRRRn3 Lp00D
@birdisinfire
@birdisinfire 2 года назад
bearings baby
@ironfront9573
@ironfront9573 4 года назад
Damn sexy for a pulley though !
@tuanas458
@tuanas458 2 года назад
The original dmm is not symmetrical. One end is actually tapered smaller.
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