Then you don’t understand their bias. The point is there is only 1 entity that’s responsible for the creation of this universe and everything in it. The way we serve “Him” or reference that entity is the concept of religion. If we have different entities that created the earth we would have more than 1 earth. That’s what they mean by we serve the same God. It’s like looking at an Elephant from only the front you can see only the head, if you look at it from the back you can only see the tail. That doesn’t make the Elephant a donkey. I hope you understand now.
Do Christian converts vs Muslim reverts , I feel the discussion would be more rounded as both have seen both sides of the coin And give thier perspective in the practice of both religions
It breaks my heart that many Christians cannot defend the faith. Many Christians do not even understand the gospel and when we come out, it now looks we don’t know what we are saying. This should be a wake up call to every believer. Study the word and rightly divide the Word of truth!!! Not just for yourself but to be able to teach others too. How can you separate Jesus from the creator? Oh please 😭😭
That's why the West is failing because we have forgotten ourove for God and He's precious son Jesus if many Christians were devoted as Judaism and Isalm followers the West wouldn't be crumbling we must humble ourselves and go back to Jesus
It should not break your heart when the essence of your faith was never fully authorised around the 3rd or 4th century. I don't think christians or jews even worship the same God.
@@arthurmorgan4942 Islam is just dangerous bootleg christianity. Christianity is just bootleg Judaisim. Judaisim is just a knock off ancient polytheistic Isrealitic religion wearing a dress pretending to be monotheistic.
@@arthurmorgan4942 😂 you act as if God shook when man "seemed it right" for faith to be authorized (by man), according to you and your source(s) in the 3rd or 4th century. 😂 God laughs at those who think by history and intellect alone they have a defense in who He is and the work he does through, for and with His people, can be reasoned through human understanding. From the beginning of time (that means prior to the 3rd and 4th century) He was, IS and forever will be, God. He is "Faith". No one can authorize Him. The nerve of humans.
That's right. Allah is not God, because we all know that the Jews were God's chosen people. There was no Muslim before Mohammed created that religion, he mixed Christian stories with pagan rituals.
@@sholay706 The Jews are just yet to leave their delusional idea that Christ isn't the promised Messiah. The Jews believe in the same God as the Christians. But the problem is they're still living the old convenant, regarding holy Abraham and Moses and they do not believe in Christ as the Messiah. So their worship isn't full, because it is he that believes in CHRIST JESUS that shall not perish, so says the Holy Bible. Whereas, Muslims story is a whole different ball game. They acknowledge Christ as only a prophet, no saviour, no redemption, no death no resurrection and Mohamed to them is a greater personality than Christ Himself. Great error
@@sholay706 The Jews worship same God as the Christians, but imperfectly. Why? Because they are yet to leave the delusional idea that Christ Jesus isn't the promised Messiah, they still cling to the old convenant, regarding holy Abraham and Moses(which were people of God). It is he who believes in CHRIST JESUS (not anyone else) that'll not perish. God perfects His convenant with man by the coming of Christ. So what is the point of you adoring the Father when you still keep malice with the Son? Moreover, Muslims don't acknowledge they'd be a Messaiah in the first place, there would be a death, a redemption, a resurrection, they prioritize their Mohammed over the Christ whom they regard as only "one of those prophets", no blessed Trinity, nothing... Our God is not a God of confusion. If you don't believe in the son and all he suffered for us, then you're in error. Just as Jehovah's witnesses aren't fully Christians as they may seem, because they do not believe in the Blessed Trinity. Error. Lemme not even go there...😌
@annabelenu1964 lol the jews dont worship Jesus. Christian worship a man Jesus who died. The God of the jews and Muslims does not die and he is everliving. Go ask a Rabbi if you worship the same God and he would say no
I have a feeling this video is going to be pointless. It's like asking people to debate why they think spicy food is better than sweet food. At the end of the day, the only answer you will get is trust me bro
All of these people except the young Christian fellow are very biased toward their faith…. But pastor rock almost made me cry when he said that because those words indicate that he actually believes that the Muslim man can still make it
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
Educated theologians have states that Abrahamic religion are not based on factual occurrence( the exodus& Moses had nothing to do with the Egypt and there’s no collection of him in history.) These religions have proven to be untrue in its factual depiction. No one wants listen to arguement of hear-say when there is factual evidence represented.
I'm a Christian and do not believe we serve the God; but the Christians saying they believe we are serving the same God with Muslims while saying they would go to hell in this is contradicting, cause if they claim are serving the same God why will they go to hell.
Christians believe Jesus is the way to the father.. Muslims don't, that is why Christians say they will go to hell. The reason why Christians and Muslims are said to worship the same God is because they believe in the God of "Abraham".
We are serving God. Causes allah means God and not any other God these people don’t even know about Christianity and Islamic religion they just speaking out of their nigerian knowledge 😂
@@ololadesuberu4341 Well they don't know that their religions is just the scam version of Jewdaism which is also a scam version the ancient Israelite pagan religions of El or Elohim. Elohim being "father of the gods". Its even in the name of Isra*el*.
Each Christian has their own idea of what is true. Thats by necessity, there is no objective way to determine who is right or wrong in matters of faith. Anyone can find their reasoning to be correct, and there is no objective way to mediate that. Arguing which religion is correct is like arguing which Harry Potter is the best book.
Esther nailed it by proving we don't serve the same god. The Christian GOD is triune in nature, hence we acknowledge the divinity and LORDship of CHRIST (PHILIPPIANS 2:9-11).
@@kantui100 nope you’ll give me many verses where your church has manipulated the meaning and convinced you to believe it’s related to Jesus stating he’s god.
@@kantui100 at the end of the day, most Christians didn’t believe Jesus was god before all of the Roman councils hundreds of years after his departure from earth. Council of nicea included. You allowed a Roman government…who was persecuting Christians beforehand…decide what your beliefs were gonna be lol.
It is possible the we worship the same God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic religions. Meaning we worship the God of Abraham. Where there are discrepancies with how we worship and understand that God. Its a fact that the God of these three religions is the God of Abraham and therefore the same God.
@@realtalkwithphil Yeahhh, cuz in Islam God (Allah) is specifically highlighted in the concept of Islamic monotheism (meaning Oneness, none other than One True God), and in Christianity, there's the Trinity (meaning three characters in One God, wherein the Son, according to the Christians becomes the Father, that's why some say "Jesus is God"). So if we put this on a theological scale, there's actually no comparison, cuz one is Trinity (literally meaning three) and one is Monotheism (literally meaning one). Definitely, not the same God being worshipped in both religions. And if we even want to say that two religions believe and worship the same God, I'd honestly rather say that's Islam and Judaism, not Christianity. (As per Abrahamic religions naw)
@@azeezatazeezzzYes,we are not worshipping the same God…The God we know as Jews and Christians is a father…but Mohammed comes 600 years later with his religion that says Allah is a father to no one,and you can only come to him as a slave,meaning the highest form of relationship you can have with him is that of master and slave which contradicts with the God of the Torah and gospels…This alone makes Islam not an Abrahamic faith
It differs in density, volume... Christians really need to come up with better explanations I honestly saw a pastor comparing the Trinity with the three headed dog from the Roman(idk if you know) I was like what the heck?!!
That is just doing false paralels how can anything earthly be like god. Everything on this earth is temporary and will eventually pass on but god is eternal
You guys clearly brought ill prepared people to discuss such delicate topic! Religion is more theological than street discourse!! How many of them have read and properly understood both books of each religion?
As a Muslim, these conversations are so draining. Let's all just have our beliefs and have respect for one another. If there are those that want to change their religion then that's fine. This is the only way i see us moving forward and that's respect.
I disagree, please research your religion by actively reading the scriptures. The Koran is not that long. The Hadiths are repetititve. It's available in English online. Be honest with yourself. You will realize there a lot of issues with this religion, that you were lied to and followed a very bad man. The Muslims in this video lied, especially the man. The woman probably doesn't know, but the man lied.
I disagree, If you someone is headed to hell wouldn’t you want to tell them about what your book says ? If someone house is on fire and they are sleep wouldn’t you want to come and save them, wake them up?
@@themadridstand also why does it say in Quran to fight Jews and Christians for their beliefs ? If Allah is all seeing all knowing , wouldn’t he have seen that Christians and Muslims can co exist with each other with no fighting ?
Sis ate him up with that water analogy!! Replayed it twice cause I'm definitely using that. These Christians are really good at explaining the belief system thats for sure!
We still do not understand with water analogy cuz you can't have ice at the same time when water is in Liquid form... Water in the liquid form has to cease being liquid before it can form ice but Father son and Holy Spirit exists without any of them ceased before other can exist, so it doesn't add up. Even doctors in divinity found it so difficult so explain the concept of Trinity that will go inline with normal sense...the only thing they will end up it is is a mystery you cannot understand. A sane person can never understand Trinity unless you change to the state of insanity.
Religion can be a sensitive and personal topic, and debating it can be complex and potentially divisive. While discussing and exploring different beliefs and perspectives can be valuable, it's essential to approach these conversations with respect, empathy, and open-mindedness. Debating religion can be beneficial when: 1. Done respectfully, without aiming to "win" or "convert" others. 2. Focusing on understanding different perspectives and beliefs. 3. Exploring the historical, cultural, and social contexts of religions. However, debates can be harmful when they: 1. Involve proselytizing or trying to convince others of a single "truth." 2. Disrespect or mock others' beliefs. 3. Overlook the personal and emotional connections people have with their faith. Remember, everyone has the right to their beliefs, and respectful dialogue can foster greater understanding and empathy.
Study the evidence bro. The problem Jubilee makes is the same problem CRUISE is making here. These people with an exception of the Muslim cleric are not qualified to be conversing about complex matters such as this. Skilled apologists n polemicists should be included in the panel, else no one will actually learn anything.
The young Christian man was contradicting himself. Jesus IS God. In Isa 9:6, Jesus was called the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father. The name of God is Jesus!!! If you don’t serve Jesus, you don’t serve my God I love that the Muslims stood their ground on that
To be a Christian means you are a follower of Christ. And to be a follower of Christ means that you have to worship the same God that Christ worshipped. Which is the Father, Jehovah (Yahweh ((YHWH)) ). "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." John 20:17 . That scripture perfectly and explicitly states Jesus own words as to the relationship between us as humans and himself and us and humans, himself and the Father..... Our Father is also his Father and our God is also His God.... Any scripture in the Bible that is used to say that Jesus Christ is God is taken out of context.... Now let me explain Isaiah 9 and verse 6. Yes, Jesus Christ is the Mighty God and our Everlasting Father. He is Mighty God in the context of Co - Creator, when the Father said unto him, Let us make man in our image. Genesis 1:26 ... He was directly associated with our creation. So he is our God in that context. Just as when my earthly father says to me, come Jeremai, let us build an aquarium, and we both build that aquarium together. However, I can only build as my father instructs me, 4. It is not my will, but his. So yes, I am a creator of the aquarium, but I am not the creator because all of the knowledge and instruction that I use to make the aquarium comes from my father. And yes, Jesus Christ is our everlasting Father. He bought us from this the curse of sin that our first human Father, Adam, sold us into. Also, just because the Bible refers to him as father does not mean that he is THE FATHER. John Burke is my father and Reginald Burke is his father, my grand father. Both John and Reginald are my father's Because It is because of them both that I have life. But they are not equal. Both John and myself are children of Reginald. Both Jesus and ourselves are children of Jehovah. All scriptures point to this explicit fact. Any other scripture used to dispute this fact is taken out of context.
@@kage199x Dont have one "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor 1:10--13 My conviction and my knowledge, should only be based on what is written, not what a particular denomination or a particular faith believes. I use the most explicit scriptures in regards to a particular topic to dictate the context so that the less explicit scriptures will fall in line harmoniously.
I believe that individuals tend to adhere to the religion they were raised in, whether it's Islam, Christianity, or any other faith, because it's passed down from their parents and ingrained in their upbringing. Therefore, instead of engaging in religious arguments, I advocate for being a good person regardless of religious affiliation. Our environment shapes our beliefs, so let's choose to live a righteous life regardless of the specific religion we follow. The important thing for me is be a better person and enjoy life......
As a Muslim, I can testify what the Muslims said in the video are not lies. All their points regarding the concept of God (Allah), prophets, heaven and hell align with the basic Islamic theology mentioned in the Quran. In contrast, many Christians themselves disagree with the Christians in the video because the core concept of Christianity which is the trinity was never mentioned concisely in the Bible. Hence, many Christians started to make up their own believe regarding the religion based on their own common sense.
@@jaesall3519 why, just because they have to cover their hair??? the rights for women are great in number. one of them is they can demand ANYTHING in any amount before marriage. They were the first women who were allowed to own property. I could go on.
The other side actually did. They didn't just say it directly because apparently, it's not in the right to. But the Muslim cleric mentioned a person can only go to paradise if he dies in Islam. And the Muslim lady said she had made heaven because she is Muslim. So...las, las, both side believe the other side is going to hell. I didn't just like what the Christian brothers did, using one mouth to say "we're serving the same God" and the other mouth to say "but y'all on the other side gon burn in hell!"
Because it is the truth. Jesus is the Truth, the Life, and the Way. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth. The Muslims has no conviction and no truth to stand ten toes down.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
As an African this discussion scared me (Both sides). All I can say is one thing when we take any religion we all really follow through with it. I just wish we put this energy in other areas of life or atleast some energy.....
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
The one that mentions that the quran talks about Jesus "isa" but the Bible doesn't mention muhammad... He was born almost 500 years after the last book of the Bible was written. Why would the Bible mention someone who hadn't been born yet?
The Muslims will never admit this..they just say oh the Bible is corrupted. But most of them.have never even held a Bible..also many Muslims are illiterate so how do they know what any religious book says. Do you think most Muslim women in Afghanistan can read the Quran.
im really ashamed of my christain brothers for saying the muslims are going to hell, but also the reason mohammed is not in the bible is because he didnt exist in the bible days, he was born 500+ years after the death of christ.
But its the truth, its said in bible. whosoever does not believe in Jesus christ the son shall perish and muslims do not believe Jesus christ is the God
At the end of the day, most of you all are practising your parent's religion. You would have been on the other side of the conversation simply by virtue of who gave birth to you.
@@vylc1611 it actually does in a way, your parents introduced to religion as a whole, later you feel like you have to be in a another religion for whatever reason you switched, there is a reason why you didn't completely ditched religion entirely. You feel like you need religion of some sort which was initially introduced to you by your parent
@@Mkhl4Sure dawg u cant tell her how she felt💀 only she knows best stop tryna explain her life story without knwoing a single thing about maybe she left not because of that reason but jst because she reasearched islam and felt more comfornt in it
@@vylc1611 Islam is just a copy of the bible but twisted it to give Muhammad more glory. Soon THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE is going to eradicate Islam because Islam is a lie. Islam cant even tell you about israel, cant tell you about king david sins, they all think the prophets were sinless (which is wrong). Muhammad got rekt by a Jewish women and soon going to HELL because HE 1000% FAILED MOSES LAW.
The fact that the muslim women said “we are like slaves to God” is mind boggling because in Christianity we are like the children & God is our Mother or Father. Our God does not slave us!
12:50 that question of "why is Prophet Muhammad not mentioned in the Bible" just proved an assumption I have of some Muslims in Africa. They all think Christianity and Islam are like twins. Originated at the same time but along the line, Christians got crazy and started worshipping Jesus as God. But if they'd do research, they'd realize that's not the case. Islam came 600 at least years after Christianity. No one would mention Prophet Muhammad in the Bible because he didn't exist yet. However, they did warn us against prophets like him who would later rise to teach that Jesus is not God
You know there is no mention of the prophecies of Jesus in the Torah/Talmud. That is why Jews don't believe in Jesus because he was never originally mentioned/referenced in Judaism until 1000s of years later
Do you think the books of Mosses, Jacob and Isaac and Jesus is what you have today, ask yourself this question. How can a word of good have version and volume. Are you kidding me
Not to mention that one of the oldest bibles actually has the same story as the one in the quran that Jesus didn't get crucified. And even the name of the God Allah is the same in both relegions. Jesus in his original language aramaic called god Allah elah.
I'm here waiting for the theists VS atheists episode. These ones are just moving around in circles. My own is correct. No, it's my own that's correct. I gained nothing here.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
Pastor Jesus is proud of you. Pastor had me laughing hard when he said it's like he will cry saying this truth funny as it sounds if is the truth . Lord have mercy and save the lost souls❤
I felt Aminat when she said, “With the number of handsome Habibi, all those handsome Islamic guys, it can not work, I will never” 😂😅 Okayyyyy 🥰🫶🏽 Mashallah 🥰
we are not worshiping the same God. They don’t even acknowledge Jesus as the son of God, how exactly are we worshiping the same God? you guys did not choose the best christian’s to represent.
I agrée but even if they picked a good Christian they’re still getting violated😂every time I watch Christian vs Islam the Christian always get violated
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
as a muslim, our holy book (the quran) is preserved in the same language (arabic) since its been revealed like 1400 years ago. if jesus spoke aramaic, why is it written in greek? so that doesn't make sense. also in the christian world, jesus 'died for their sins', so what the point of our existence? if christians can do whatever they want, bc jesus 'died for their sins' what is even life lol? .... a plethora of contractions! ignorance is bliss, allhamdulilah for being a muslimah.
Hi, to answer your question. That is definitely not the point of Christs sacrifice. His grace given to us through his death for our sins, it is not so we can take advantage of it. It even says in the bible that we should not take advantage of this grace. Romans 6:1-2 “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?.” Because he died for our sins and rose back to life. We can now live the good life that God planned for us through the power and help of the Holy Spirit. And even when we sin (because we are human) Christ’s sacrifice pays for those sins so we will not be condemned for those sins. We can get back up again and continue walking with God. Hope this helps :).
Your logic is flawed. I can easily throw back the question, if Allah is all merciful, Muslims can do whatever they want. Christ came to show us how to live, died so that we may have life eternal, resurrected to fulfill the Word, as He is, and come back for His children.
@@Ivanabelle y’all let y’all religion get publicly disrespected😭… lil nas x made a whole music video disrespecting christianity. there’s no accountability in christianity, just as long as you believe in christ, all is well... yeah no thanks
@@reginaphalange93 most Christian media called him out? Once a person is made aware of their wrongs, it's between them and God. Lil Nas X doesn't represent Christianity, in fact very far from it. So very weird measurement of our faith but do as you please.
Aramaic was the primary language for Jewish people in Galilee and Judea. However, Greek was the lingua franca in the Eastern Mediterranean and the language of trade, culture, and Roman administration. Records (including the bible) document interactions between Jesus and non-Jewish individuals such as Roman centurions and Syro-Phoenician (Canaanite) people. So Jesus must have spoken Greek.
One major problem here is question comprehension,emotional responses bereft of theological basis,quoting text out of context and more evangelism than factual argument. Circular reasoning being at the base of the arguments.
@@sammy-er7onWhich means God and it’s very generic. Anyone who speaks Arabic or Aramic can say Allah and believe in a different God. Is God’s name in the Hebrew scriptures spelled out the the Quran?
13:01 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ I know that Christians may be cocky but these Muslims don't know the history of their religion. Muhammad was born 600 years after Jesus died. The later part of the new testament was written by people who died not more than 100 years after Jesus did (all were killed young except John and I doubt he lived that long). Muhammad was born 6 centuries later, we aren't the ones deceived on this issue. They shouldn't be salty about it. Nobody is angry that their prophet isn't in the Torah because we all know that it precedes the New testament and the Quran. This can be cleared up with a simple Google search.
💯💯💯💯💯💯 Exactly. They say the Bible is corrupted. How can a book that came 500 years after be more authentic than the 1st book compiled by the eye wittinesses themselves? 😂
@realtalkwithphil both of your logic is very stupid, hinduism is the first known religion so according to your logic christianity is false and hinduism is true, the Bible is definitely fabricated hence why we don't have it written in the original language, even like 9:56 is different in KJV and NIV because one of the versions fabricated the verse .
Muslims and Jews worship only one god! That’s why we can pray in each other spaces, also we both do not eat pork. Mohammed pbuh , is in the torah book, as Mohammed’im. Jewish people reject prophet Jesus pbuh and prophet Mohamed pbuh. That is were are spilt entirely. The thing we both agree on is that Christians are worshiping Jesus a man who walked on earth. Three in one. Just wanted to share a little so we can all learn from each other. Salam
@@Wonder_world48Half True, half lies. Your prophet is not at all in the bible no where. No matter how much pervert text it's not there. & they wouldn't allow Christians to pray in a mosque, that a lie, and I wouldn't advocate for it at all. We don't worship the same God. & you don't understand the Christian faith like most Muslims. Christianity operates & functions differently unlike any religion in the world and it could be backed up with evidence unlike Islam and the rest of the belief systems.
How would a Christian in the 21st century with the availability of the internet today not know Islam and Christianity are world apart & also do not worship the same God?! Please Christians & Muslims look up Sam Shamoun.
Very simple question to be answered with a question. Do the Jews and Muslims worship the same entity which in English language translates to God from either perspective?
Also this was shared with me today by my good friend Yahuda and I think it’s applicable this situation. As Christian’s we must aim to embody these scriptures 2 Timothy 2:24-26 English Standard Version 24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. Even if we disagree we still love our neighbour because we are all made in the image of God.
They’re not ready to listen to eachother.. they both have narrow knowledge of each others teachings & books.. but broad knowledge of their own. They were not ready to understand eachother but ready to argue with each other (which is fine) but when you’re not willing to understand eachother it’s impossible to get a middle ground. It’s purely because they think they’re 100% right. Which I understand.
For those who think Islam is a religion of peace; “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled”. - Qur’an 9:29
Lol, taking the verse out of context and not knowing why and when it was revealed. You can’t just read it and understand it, you need to study the exegesis bro, do your homework before you talk.
@@mytuts_Okay Bro, go ahead and briefly explain the context. I was expecting this comment because I wanted to provoke a dialogue. 😂. So, you’re welcome, let’s talk 😊
@@mytuts_ O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. 9:123
@@mytuts_ O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. Let’s not forget ahadith. Sahih Muslim 1:30
@@realtalkwithphil uhm bro, please read through the verse before and after all these verses you're cherry picking. That's the best way to really understand. If we're just provoking arguments, that means there was never any understanding intended in the first instance.
When you boil water, can you get ice from it? An example of the Holy Trinity is water. When you boil water to a certain degree, you get steam. Similarly, when you freeze water at a certain temperature, you get ice. So, water can take many forms, e.g., liquid, steam, and ice.
The God of the Bible and the God of the Quran are referring to the same Person. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the same God that the Jews, Christians, and Muslims claim to worship. However, just because you claim to worship The same God doesn't mean that's how that God wishes to be worshipped. After the Israelites crossed the Red Sea, they made a golden calf, and just after they made it, Aaron said that it was a festival to Yahweh. (YHWH) (The Aramaic Personal name for God) In their minds they were worshipping their God. However, they were just not worshipping him the way that he wants to be worshipped. And that sums up the major reason for division in religion. People tend to worship God how they want to worship him instead of how he wants to be worshipped.
The aramaic name of God is elah/Allaha. Jesus according to the Bible used to pray the exact way prophet Muhammed prayed. The oldest Bible isn't even written in its original language. Som of the oldest bibles claim jesus wasn't crucified. Bible was written without the existence of Jesus at that time unlike the quran wich was "publicly" for everyone to write and hear and see and also by "the prophet" who sent it. I can't say I have that much knowledge but knowing the most schoolars agree that the bible was changed and you can find 3000 verses that was added or removed wich explains the numbers of the verses. It just makes me not lean towards Christianity.
@@omgman928 Elah is the Aramaic word for God just as Allah is the Arabic word for God. not his personal name . God is just a title, not a name. "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them." Exodus 6:3 KJV .... Jehovah in English Yahweh in Hebrew Yahuh and/or Yahwah (يَهْوَه) in Arabic. I can definitely understand your apprehension with regards to choosing belief system based on the claims of corruption of the scriptures, especially with so many different translations of the Bible. What I will encourage you to do is read both the Quran and the Bible. I personally find the Bible more specific and explicit in identifying and answering more important questions of existence. What you will have to do is to search and research on your own all while honestly and wholeheartedly asking the Father for guidance with constant prayer and supplication.
@@omgman928I hope you realize what you have today isn’t the original Quran and Uthman burnt the first Quran after the death of Muhammad. Most Muslims are bn brainwashed into believing same thing about Christianity by reading the footnotes and thus making them not able to think outside the box. Read the Bible and Quran (without footnotes) for yourself and ask questions then you will see the truth
The crusades were in response to the violence against the Jews and Christian’s by the muslims at the time. The crusades didn’t just fall out of thin air. If you are attacking me, I will definitely defend my self, that was simply what the crusades were about.
These guys are not sound at all. All the intellectuals in here will be so tired of this video. Like they are not educated in this matter at all. see poor logic smh
Abi, I'm a Christian and I was screaming shut up 😂😂. If I'm not certain on something, I don't have a reasonable answer I'm not speaking. The Muslims have said we don't worship the same God and you are still forcing them, next you say they are going to hell 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. If they didn't stand on the first point, the hell issue won't have been so painful to watch
Both religions did not originate from Nigeria or west Africa. Why are we debating on this. Were there no religions in Nigeria before Islam and Christianity? Sad!!!! Our ancestors are rolling in the grave
Our "ancestors" couldn't save themselves from the colonizers that invaded the country. The fact that it was spread by people doesn't invalidate the truth of it. These debates are necessary because there is a God. And we need him, we need the right one, not ogun or osun that couldn't even save themselves and require blood sacrifices from their followers. Debates like these are necessary because every god calls for exclusivity in worship but we have thousands, and only one is right. Not two not three and people need to be pointed in the right direction. May God point us in the right direction.
@@Ifpurplewasagirland we can't save ourselves from ourselves, look at the state of the country with all the churches and mosques. Mind you we are still colonized (neocolonialism)
As a Pastor you need to dig deeper about other practices. In scripture the Bible says if you deny the Son you deny the Father. Allah is not a Father and he doesn’t have a son. Therefore we do not serve the same God. It’s really truly that simple. Much love❤!
I think the fundamental difference is no matter what Christian say Muslim will only see Jesus as a prophet. To them there is no equivalent to God, nonetheless a prophet. Christians have accepted Jesus as their God, by their own logic. Muslims refuse to equate anybody else as God but God
The bible is not the word of God. It was copied from ancient texts in sumerian text, the emerald tablets, the enuma elish, the Epic of Gilgamesh, u name it. Go do research. Some God killing children, u think this is the creator of all? Think again
Why would any Muslim choose to be in this pointless video? Like who cares. We have our religion and they have theirs. Pointless discussion. They put Jesus in the same level as God. We don’t, so what is the point of this discussion exactly?
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@Godtrulylovesyouall Oshey Legend of the seeker. Al these attribute you're attaching to Jesus that he doesn't even know about. What exactly does God do in the whole picture. He just sits down and stretch his leg abi😂😂😂
I wonder why this people can nit understand the fact that Muslims believe in Jesus(Proohet Yisa). And they keep saying they would go to hell. Who are they to decide? Even as christians to christains , you cant tell one sister will go to hell.
Believing is God’s Son is different from believing someone is a prophet. Demons believe in Jesus, they believe that there is one God and that he is the Messiah/a prophet. What is the difference between you and the demons?
Obviously you don’t serve the same god. But these religions originated from the same idea. Judaism-Christianity-Islam. But today they are separate religions as they have different rules if you just read their holy books. This people are coming up with new point to push their ideologies.
They all contradicted themselves but, also spoke with conviction on some of the prompts. The end of the matter is that Truth is one; it doesn’t matter what the whole world thinks, truth remains unchanged. So find out what Truth is and hold on to it. For me, it is that truth that only Jesus can save me from the anger of God that will be poured out on those who will be in hell.
Permit me to say that You’re not wrong, yes Jesus saves but why do we (Christians) emphasize the condemnation part of salvation and tend to ignore the love story that it is. This might shake up a lot of people, but heaven is not the ‘goal’. Heaven is simply the result of salvation! The goal is to be made whole and right with God, simply because we have put our faith in Him. We have moved from separation from God because of sin, to being his sons (and daughters) because of grace and faith. Let’s stop emphasizing fire and brimstone. We should rejoice because we are made right with God and should want other people to be made right with Him too.
@@murna_u Thank you for your comment but I disagree with your opinion, on the basis that it is half truths. I haven’t said anything that the Bible doesn’t emphasize, the Bible emphasizes; 1. That Jesus is the TRUTH, John 14:6 2. THERE WILL BE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE and SULPHUR. I urge you to read 2Thessalonians 1:6-10 and also the entire book of revelation. Another point I’d love to make clear is this, the opposite of condemnation is not Love, the opposite of being condemned is being free from the charge, it is justification. A person who can understand this can then understand that God loves them. I rejoice greatly about my salvation, I go further to ask myself, salvation from what? The answer to this question which is; -Sin, the punishment of sin, and in the future I will be saved from the presence of sin, it is what makes me want to tell people about Jesus.
Ok Religion I wish you guys found a way to fix in Avraham Ben Mohse from Ghana 🇬🇭 he is enlightened 💡💐and will really add up to the show . Everyone did well 🙏🏽. We need more light on such topics
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
I don’t know why people are criticizing the Christians. They did a fantastic job. The reality is that there are no answers. We can only try to defend our positions. As for me, there is no one true religion. God is not a God of confusion. God is Love and that is all that matters.
Who is here with me surveying the comment section before diving in. I wish a better topic was used tho, this topic is not good for such a sensitive matter.
Surah 9.29 in the Qur'an Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
For the prompt Islam is a religion of peace. I disagree with all my heart. I agree that some muslim's are of peace. But the religion itself is a no for me. Why? Surah 3:151 "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelief" (Non-Muslim) Surah 2:191 "And kill them (Non-Believers) wherever you find them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (Non-Believers) Whereas, in the bible it says Exodus 20:13 "Thou shall not kill" Deuteronomy 5:17 "Thou shall not murder"
Pray for your enemies, those who spiteful persecute and use you Forgive 70×7 Jesus died for sinners, people he also called his friends Toooooo many verses about love
You have not read your Bible well dear Exodus 21:20-21: Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
There are plenty more. You are taking those quranic verses out of context. This same Quran says, if those disbelievers don’t fight back/attack you, then don’t fight them 🤷🏾♀️
@@ayomideolajide3472 If you didn't know the old testament talks about the laws of old. This was before the coming of moses. The same bible then talks about the new laws and how killing of animals and owning slaves is no longer needed and/or accepted by God.
@@geoffreywright9856 he’s don’t seem open to discussion, or to others believes than the ones he has. In a debate, you dont have to change your mind, but you can understand people, listen, evolve. There is no tolerance here. And theres multiples time when he almost disrespected the muslim side of the panel. I think he could have communicated with « forms ». Hes not the only one tho. For me, to be able to talk about this subject, you have to come with some knowledge about all religions concerned, that is a must. Thats my opinion.
Let’s say 2 people each have a friend named James. They are trying to figure out if it is the same person. Person 1 says his friend James is a father since he has 1 biological child and also some adopted children. Person 2 says his friend James has no children and doesn’t want any kids. Are they talking about the same person or not?
