I belonged to a team back around 2010 that developed a setup at Charlotte that allowed some of our team members to be able to beat the top pros. Mims setup a private room to show him that we were 100% legal. (Don’t remember the exact numbers but we changed the rear end ratio from 3.6 to 3.3 It stopped the rear tires from spinning coming out of turn four after running 8 to 10 laps. Yes we was a little bit slower to start but no one could stay with us later in the race. )
It was a big thing in the short track community. His name was Drew Wooten. He got caught multiple times for grip hacks (2 times I believe). He hid it for a long time. But he eventually got caught. He’s back on the service now but he has no more strikes left.
I remember a friend of mine mentioning RAM hacks once being a thing in iRacing. Supposedly it made the game go faster on your system which made your car quicker. Never knew if there was ever any truth to that though.
so more to the story i had him in my league as i was a admin, I was the one that sent the info to iracing about him, he also made a new account and i sent that to Iracing as well after that jan 17 ban, if you want more details id be more than happy to share them with you
There's a whole controversy down in the Australian community that top level road racers in 2021 and 2022 had potentially developed a program to extract live telemetry data to monitor things like wheel slip and be able to artificially introduce traction control where there shouldn't have been any Basically forced leagues to adopt regular telemetry checks last year in an effort to combat it
A lot of the dirt guys got busted not long ago using the engine kill switch as traction control. I know alot of really fast guys from that time who now are mid packers or no longer on the service
It may not be an issue rn. But it could be in the future. I will say as a member of the F1 League Racing Community this is a massive problem for us. F1 esports drivers have been caught using them. It's hard to detect unless you have the experience to detect them (even then it's hard) and there's no anticheat or system in place to detect them (its simply down to reporting it and hoping something is done. Iracing I feel will likely have less of a problem with this as a membership program with a significantly more devoted team with significantly more experience handing these cases. But still the F1 League Communities are struggling through this. EA refuses to help us and it's down to the players to Decide whos cheating and who's not.
@Skreezilla I do use controller since my arms are usually pretty sore after work. Got back on the Sim last year and I've went up from 2700 to 3200 irating since the beginning of March. Even able to keep up with the guys that have double to triple my irating at some tracks.
What do you think about controllers? I've been hearing more and more people complain about fast guys on controllers "having an advantage", but I really think they're just practicing more. Any time I've asked someone what the advantage to controller is, they always claim that the tires wear less, but even if that were true, some of the controller racers I know can hotlap just as fast as they can run a race 🤷♂️
The only advantage controller could possibly give is the time it takes to make massive steering adjustments. Moving your thumb left to right is much quicker then turning your wheel to maximum. That being said it’s a very niche thing and the comfortability and ability to make micro steering adjustments more then makes up for it. You could also argue throttle control is easier but that’s debatable. How sore my thumb gets at the end of a race however is not a debate.
@@Volkain10 I hear people say that sometimes too, but you can absolutely adjust your wheel settings to be just as quick, so imo, it isn't an advantage exclusive to controller.
I've only seen actual cheats twice. Both involved changing something in how iRacing loads the session where they could turn the track temp down clientside.
It was a bug, where it wouldnt process the heat generated by all or half of the other cars So you'd end up with the client not computing that and this get a cooler track
Tim Ryan- Dirt 410 sprint driver and owns a setup shop called speed factory widely believed to have grip hacks. Something to back this statement he ran and won the inaugural pro series but year 2 they announced that they would be checking telemetry he quit while frequently being on the game.
@@jawmedia7575 Sensible will get you close and is a realistic way to drive, however gripflicking on entry gets you wins. As it takes advantage of the tire model and actually wears the tire less.. best way to do it is adjust ur wheel for it... this way u can do it while people watch ur stream and they can not tell, plus it allows u to still drive natural, u must still be sensible on middle and on exit.
@@jawmedia7575 In fact iracing is so aware of this exploit they will actually use a video from you tube of one driver who did it successfully for one year in F1, know if you look this up, u actually flick it on entry and not in the middle as that driver did. Also its easiest to get the hang of it practicing it on the the 1987 nascar as it is way faster once u get the hang of it in that, but it works across all models across the service especially dirt cars
@Doug Fungus I shall demonstrate my ignorance. What the heck is gripflicking. Never even heard that term. I simply lifted a bit early and eased the car into 1 and 3.
Can confirm the weather glitch. You didn’t have it exactly right but it did happen. The coke driver that used it was suspended for the remainder of the season. Source: I’m the 47 car in the clip.
I'm pretty confident in a lack of grip hacks of the sort described here. There are grip hacks though and they are track related. Sometimes in oval and definitely in road and rallycross there are specific kerbs and lines to hit which effectively give a speed boost and can be worth 0.2 if hit correctly. They're not necessarily on the perfect racing line but are the best way to shave laptime for sure and the closest any of us will get to grip hacks.
That’s not a hack. That’s exploiting poor development. A hack means you are injecting your own code into the game. That’s just iracing needing to fix something
@danielpassmore5026 I appreciate that, but they're called grip hacks among the drivers as that's what they feel like when you hit them. Obviously not hacks and they are available to everyone but it feels like cheating when you hit one for the first time
Hey man you forgot to block out that guys customer ID in the URL. Also that guying going over 100 in a jeep and killing half his passengers… not the brightest bulb in the bunch
I always wondered if you could implement traction control with wheel speed data and a custom pedal controller. Not sure if you can access wheel speed live tho
@@DJYeeJay That's interesting. I have some Heusinkvelds that I hear that's possible with. I'm interested to try it. I know some of the more interesting real discrete traction control systems used to cheat in real racing operate by watching engine RPM moretraction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/DavisUS06577944__.pdf and I know you can get live RPM out of IRacing. Wouldn't be surprised if someone was doing this, but I think it would be pretty obvious in the telemetry
I use throttle Curves on my Heusinkvelds because I found I do tend to press down a little too quick in corners sometimes and it helps reduce those instances of sudden throttle and wheel spin in races.
@@strovich that’s something I found I did as well and only when I started playing ACC the different engine maps allowed for less/more aggressive power delivery and I noticed I was faster with a slower map because I’m super aggressive on corner exit. I wish iracing had something similar but instead it’s locked because pedals that will cost you $1000+
I was in a rookie Miata race where the leader g it wrecked lap 1 turn 1, towed, went a lap down, passed every to unlap himself, the. Passed everyone again to win all within 10 laps, and when I looked back at the replay he never lifted
In my rookie races in a Miata. I saw several times I believe they had hacks. One was a racer crashes going into the S curves at Oulton park. He loses a wheel and 30 feet later the wheel is back on. Total time lost was only a few seconds not minutes. The other was at Charlotte roval watching the leaders go around corners on two wheels and not sliding out.
Hey it turns out that the guy hes talking about (Donald Crocker) raced at tracks with me at the time I raced. Includes Five Flags and Mobile Int Speedway in a modified and a Outlaw Late Model
If there is no cheats/exploits/hacks in Iracing it would be the only game that didn't have it. So logic would dictate that yes there are cheaters; and it would explain a lot in my opinion
You can pass on the outside in legends at oxford if people are using iracing setups and you have a good custom setup. Good legens setups are how I got out of rookie I use to just walk away
Hey justin, did you ever play the old NASCAR inside line and NASCAR 14 by any chance? I remember buying a turtle beach headset for a Justin way back then 😅😂
well, people always believe that these hacks would be like 100%... no, if you are a good driver, you get a cheat that gives you 5% extra grip.. no one will never think you cheat.. just that you are 5% better with your inputs.
I was in a race last night and this dude with the last name Czub was running practice laps that were over a tenth faster than the closest driver at fixed martinsville. He was running low 16.4 and the closest was a 16.625
@@DJYeeJay he skipped qualifying and then was slow as hell in the race and during the collective practice session before the race sessions started he was still like a full tenth ahead of everyone which was very weird since the guys with 7000+ iRating couldn’t even touch his times. He might not have been cheating but it was very weird and suspicious for the trucks, he was even running a weird line
@@DJYeeJay I looked back at all his laps when he put it up and he was running a weird middle line without having any push or looseness off the corner, just launching off, I wish the telemetry showed for other drivers during the sessions because it was crazy, I hadn’t seen someone hit below 16.53 all day and he beats it by a tenth with the weirdest line
@@TheREALBillyMan It is WILDLY unfair to claim someone is cheating just because they are faster than you. How many laps do you have? How many starts? iRating? License class? I run Rookie Legends often. And out Q the field by a considerable amount sometimes. But when I explain to them how many starts I have, it can be easily justified.
Dude we use tons of exploit to take advantage of iracings tire model, from the way we drive to how we set the car up.... as far as outright hacks i dunno
not a grip hack and tbf what i'm about to bring up is more of an ingame exploit than a hack and a lot of fast people on iracing use it. especially this past week at Dirt bristol. this exploit is mostly used at Superspeedways. its the 210 wheel range exploit. its not too hard to setup. basically go into the iracing settings and drop your wheel range from 900 or whatever to 210. it basically makes it so you only need to physically move the wheel a very tiny bit and makes it very easy to save the car on Superspeedways and almost impossible to wreck. you could also see why it makes dirt racing easy on iracing.
IMO at superspeedways the ability to be precise with your line and with bump drafts with a normal/large steering ratio far outweighs any benefits a small range would provide. Dirt I have no clue lol not a dirt guy
This is not a hack, nor is it really a good idea on superspeedways. A larger steering ratio keeps you from scrubbing off speed, keeping you from turning the wheel too hard.
@@stevecinnibarhoffman that's not the reason why people use it on Superspeedways. like i said it makes it nearly impossible to get wrecked because you can save it by just barely moving your wheel.
That's not how saving a car works, especially for oval cars. Oval setups are very soft on the driver's side, some people irl choosing to run no spring at all in the left front. If you get practically any weight transfer onto to front left, by idk counter steering, the cars going to want to come around and put you into a wall. Dirt cars are steered using throttle, the fastest way to drive them is by keeping the steering as straight as possible as much as possible, and picking the right line is more important than anything else. It really doesn't seem like you've actually played iracing much.
DJ must have made this video to hide the fact that he is using grip hacks. For one, you can't possibly be this good without using grip hacks. Have you seen the posture he drives with!?!?! You hear what he talks about at 1:25? No wonder he doesn't attempt to drive in the coke series.
My way of cheating on an oval is sitting at the back and avoiding the wrecks! my car makes it to the end of the race with no damage...... Top notch exploit. :p
I doubt iracing has hacking problems like some other games cough cough COD, but i was in a league where someone got banned cause he was modding his equipment like his pedal and wheel. Idk how u could mod your pedals to give you an advantage if someone knows tell me im curious in that topic not to try or anything just how it gives you an advantage just something ive had in the back of my mind for awhile. If theres any hacks its probably like no tire wear or something idk how some people save there tires so much. I was in a race where 4 of us were equal we were passing each other really good racing but after 20 laps i couldn't keep up with them anymore idk how they saved there tires pushing so hard to this day i still cant figure out tire saving and speed i can have one or the other but i cant have both.
@@DJYeeJay At the end of the video, while scrolling up through the ressuts you may or may not have his name right there in plain sight. I saw nothing ;-)
I do use controller since my arms are usually pretty sore after work. Got back on the Sim last month and I've went up from 2700 to 3200 irating since the beginning of March. Even able to keep up with the guys that have double to triple my irating at some tracks.
umm dude in the higher fields he obviously lost to other hackers.... this was an average racer that could win every race he could only lose to other hackers...
Yea...nobody cheats in video games. Especially at the highest levels. They have too much to lose. -signed Lance Aarmstrong Florence Griffith Joiner Vitor Belfort 😂 People always cheat. In all avenues of life. ESPECIALLY in video games, ESPECIALLY if there is money on the line. Cheats are sophisticated beyond your imagination. 😢
I remember seeing some ramhacks back in 2020 that someone developed for some roadcourse stuff. They were blatant (and there are still videos up on boxthislap.) I don't think you'd get away with it for long. HOWEVER. It would be naive to assume that this isn't happening now, even in the higher tiers. While a 0.1% difference in pace won't affect Joe Slow, that could make or break a Top 5/10 in capable hands and be virtually undetectable even with telemetry. Maybe the tires don't degrade that little bit, maybe they don't heat up that little bit. Maybe it's hacks, maybe they're just better! Unrelated to grip/speed hacks. I bet you someone has a way to cheese network stuff to avoid incidents. Remember the lag switch? Bet it's less blatant with software.
