Do Laetoli Footprints Disprove Evolution?

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Answered questions on the Laetoli footprints and what it means for evolution.
This clip is from The Atheist Experience, Episode 27.21 for May 28, 2023 with Jim Barrows and Forrest Valkai!
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@somedonkus_ Год назад

Bringing Forrest onto this channel was the best thing the ACA has ever done

@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Год назад

Forrest? Not even close. He's just another of the lost & clueless (atheists). I've destroyed all atheist ideas (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) and it was easy. NONE OF THAT garbage has ever been observed or even proved to be POSSIBLE. I just proved that atheism = delusion/mental illness.

@darknyght3962 Год назад

Agreed

@miconis123 Год назад

His enthusiasm is contagious.

@totheknee Год назад

I disagree. At 5:27 - Jim is doing the right thing by making the dishonest caller answer questions. Forrest hands the dishonest caller a free pass at every turn. Frustrating. You can't let dishonest people get away with this.

@aspenjames1189 Год назад

@@tothekneebut he isn’t here to argue he is here to teach. he’s dealt with so many people who think like this that he knows the best option he has here is to make people think through their beliefs on their own

@thekububeach 9 месяцев назад

"well I just know that we were created separately..." "well I just know that we were created separately..." "well I just know that we were created separately..." "well I just know that we were created separately..." "well I just know that we were created separately..."

@thekububeach 9 дней назад

@@thedave1771what does that even mean??

@mikeweiss8453 Год назад

"Does 5 + 6 = 11?" *breathes heavily through mouth* "well I just know that uhhh we were created separately..."

@FoxInnaHat Год назад

*also refuses to elaborate in creation claim

@scruffylookingNerfherder5742 Год назад

I swear at times this caller was like Johnny 5 on short circuit. Any time the hosts asked him anything his response was basically "Malfunction! Need input!"

@NitroIndigo 5 месяцев назад

"If the Bible said 2 + 2 = 5, I would believe it."

@ArcaneEther Год назад

It will never fail to amaze me how Forrest can offer a simple, well worded, complete explanation of a biological process and a caller will go silent for thirty seconds, then counter with "Yeah, but Jebus though."

@FoxInnaHat Год назад

You know they truly have nothing to say when their only response is "We will all meet jesus/come to be judged one day"

@foxfireman188-ls1kv 7 месяцев назад

"You can't logic someone out of a view they didn't logic their way into." Forrest can drill down to the absolute bedrock of our understanding of evolution, and the fact that Dan completely ignores it just goes to show how absolutely separate his faith is from reality. He literally CAN'T be reasoned with. It feels like explaining the rules of chess to someone so you can both enjoy a game together, but they won't stop eating the pieces.

@Ryangubbs 2 месяца назад

@@foxfireman188-ls1kv The Chess analogy is hilarious 😂.

@hockeylvr42 Год назад

Forrest has taught me more about biology in the past 12 months than I learned in my 28 years of existence before that. He’s such a remarkable educator because he explains things in a way ANYONE can understand, with so much joy and excitement, and always with a smile on his face. Excellent work, Forrest. Just excellent

@JamesJones-pm7tb Год назад

Wow. Just wow. These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!! The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL. These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!

@jonclark8252 Год назад

@@JamesJones-pm7tb "Wow. Just wow. These 2 hosts are fools" The fool here is you. You run like a coward every time I challenge you to a debate. You'll run again when you read What is the best/strongest evidence you have that proves your deity exists?

@trumanbazar9321 Год назад

Dude I have learned so much from Forrest’s in the last year also!!! He rocks!

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@JamesJones-pm7tb are we mammals or not? A simple yes/no answer that any real doctor could answer correctly

@spin.chicken Год назад

Well, honestly.... Don't get me wrong, he is a great educator. But, before Forrest, were you actually interested in science? Most educator's are pretty decent, but most students don't give a flying fvck when they're going through high school, and honestly even college. Once your interest is sparked, you will pay far more attention and learn a great deal. The second thing is...the topic. Not all topics of a field are going to be interesting to you and high school educators aren't there to feed YOUR SPECIFIC interests. They're required to teach a wide breadth of information. Forrest's YT is specifically catered to a teaching style and uses topics that are far more interesting, to the majority of people. Again, I want to say that Forrest is a phenomenal educator! However, his smile is often condescending.

@keaco73 Год назад

It’s amazing what these believers “know” without having *any* knowledge of the topic.

@drg8687 Год назад

That's how they got to their faith. Why not apply it to everything else? This society is so soft that most ignorant people do not die as a result of their ignorance.

@keaco73 Год назад

@@drg8687 100%

@heinshaaine8153 Год назад

@@drg8687 That seems like a stretch as people with faith exists long before agriculture was a thing.

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@heinshaaine8153 And you can prove that? I'm genuinely interested.

@heinshaaine8153 Год назад

@@joshsheridan9511 I cant, im not a paleontologist or anthropologist. But first evidence for religion is dated around the Middle Paleolithic era (45-200 thousand years ago) and agriculture is dated to 9000bc

@blueredingreen Год назад

Dan: I read some apologetics about biology. Forrest: Well, here's a bunch of biology facts about that. Dan: Uhh... I was not expecting this...

@skepticaliam5857 Год назад

no facts no evidence we do not what or when or how those prints got there. we know something made them and nothing else.

@amtlpaul Год назад

@@skepticaliam5857 nope, Triune Troll

@Miblive Год назад

I feel sorry for Dan. He seems to be a nice guy, but he is completely brainwashed.

@pollypockets508 Год назад

@@amtlpaul How do you know?

@amtlpaul Год назад

@@pollypockets508 What?

@budd2nd Год назад

Poor Dan, his cognitive abilities have really been disabled and dismantled by his adherence to religious faith. So sad 😞

@hannotn Год назад

I was just laughing along, enjoying a hugely uneven contest of ideas, but I gradually came to see it as really sad near the end, too. You could hear that even though he was battling along, trying to pretend his faith was impermeable, but he was rattled, because he just couldn't explain it all away to himself. And I'm sure he'll seek reassurance from the faithful around him, but I think he'll fight a losing battle with this always. He'll assert his faith around those he goes to church with, but this will chew at him.

@John.0z Год назад

Dan is indeed a very sad case. I can only hope that he keeps thinking about the subject, reads a bit more science, and asks a few _very_ difficult questions of the people who did that much damage to his intellect.

@jltrem Год назад

Poor nothing. People like this make it nigh unto impossible to feel sympathy for their choice to remain in the dark.

@gurgleblaster2282 Год назад

It was sad that it made me realize that chatgpt communicates better than this human. 😢

@brianjames7607 Год назад

Indeed, an astonishingly clear example of our greatest weakness as a species. The tendency to fanatically believe (forcefully self brainwash) in something that eventually proves to be false.

@davestableford1516 Год назад

Forrest is such a great communicator, and his enthusiasm for his subject is so contagious.

@neverendingparty1534 Год назад

No, Forrest is just another lost & clueless atheist fool that has no rational atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Thus, all atheists are delusional to believe in something that has no factual basis. It's the very definition being lost & clueless in regard to reality.

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@neverendingparty1534 the only clueless ones here are you and double standard Kenny.

@warlordnipple Год назад

If only creationist were better listeners.

@ihavenoideaonanything 5 месяцев назад

@@warlordnipple If they were, they wouldn't be creationists.

@peronkop 4 месяца назад

When ever Forrest is on I want them to shut up about apologetics and just focus on the science. Thats peak.

@alvarogoenaga3965 Год назад

Mammals but not animals? I rest my case, your honor.

@JamesJones-pm7tb Год назад

Humans are not animals. NO ANIMAL can split the atom or build a space shuttle w/ 250k moving parts & walk on the moon. Monkeys can't think/reason until they have an idea. Chickens can't cry. Only humans get schizophrenia. We PURPOSELY cook w/ fire, while animals are scared of fire. Animals can’t/don’t send their daughter to college, worship God or produce technology & explain it to paying students! Name an animal that can do any of these INTELLIGENTLY DYNAMIC things? THESE FACTS PROVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANS AND ANIMALS; THUS HUMANS ARE NOT ANIMALS! I rest my irrefutable case.

@davidsmith-uw2ci Год назад

I'm so glad they are not jurors if they are I feel sorry for whoever is involved, the innocent would be found guilty and guilty would be found innocent by looks and feelings, and hunches. And not overwhelming preponderance of evidence.

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@ChristendomForUS it's interesting that you misunderstood op's post so badly.

@theflyingdutchguy9870 Год назад

it makes it very clear he is far out of his depth to have a discussion with forrest about anything to do with biology😅

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@ChristendomForUS hi Kenny/apot still banging that double standard drum.

@jaimerivera2382 Год назад

This is actually so depressing to me. This guy was *so* locked into his scripted answers and responses that, when asked open and honest questions about anything that went against that programming, he just froze and had no idea what to do but to back up the tape to the last point he wanted to make.

@korganrocks3995 Год назад

But a size ten foot... on a chimp! It really is scary to hear a seemingly normal human be so rigid in his thinking that he'd lose a debate against Forest Gump.

@keithwinget3450 Год назад

That's why I never ask them to answer questions in front of me. I'd rather give them things to think about. There's a chance they will find the right answers, but if I put them on the spot, their instinct is to react with whatever they've been taught to react with rather than doing any actual thinking.

@erinelizabethmsw5137 Год назад

I know. 😢😢😢

@jns8393 Год назад

If I was to be charitable I'd say his pauses were due to thinking about the questions and points put to him but no, I believe he was desperately thinking of some BS apologetics to say instead.

@engelbrecht777 Год назад

Religious people brainwashing children is the biggest crime towards humanity. It is only allowed to abuse chikdren if you use religion... i can't understand why.

@Rage867 Год назад

It is kind of sad listening to Forrest give such great responses when you realize this guys isn't listening at all and will just reply with "but the foot was big"

@bernardofitzpatrick5403 Год назад

Big Foot 😂😂

@jasonibbs Год назад

I dont think any host expects to change the mind of any caller. Maybe educate a bit and elevate the conversation, but it is rare to change a mind in a single call. I think the point is the audience. Maybe it sets someone off to research themselves, and that ends up changing the mind. I think that is the important part. Plus, i love to hear Forrest talk about science with such passion in general.

@warlordnipple Год назад

@@jasonibbs this show + Christopher Hitchens is what brought me out of deism.

@nina1608 Год назад

Forrest is such an engaging and gifted teacher.

@eraserkam6299 Год назад

Forrest could have sat there and explained evolution to this guy for the next eight hours, and it wouldn’t have amounted to squat. This callers mind is a desert with one decaying cactus. And I’ll be damned if he isn’t going to hug the living hell out of it.

@DueJustice4ever Год назад

Faith is a reliable path to getting duped.

@ianb9028 Год назад

This took me back to my college days where the biology lecturer fixed an unfortunate student and said "Define a mamal". The student stammered and finally got out "Well … they have hair and give milk." The lecturer interrupted at this point and said "So far you haven’t ruled out the coconut."

@madamsloth 9 месяцев назад

🤣 savage

@elmartell5724 Год назад

He's so hung up on the stone ax, like there aren't full-on human cultures still operating exclusively on stone age technology TODAY

@korganrocks3995 Год назад

He is also 100% imagining a wooden stick with a stone tied to it, rather than the sharpened stone that Forest is trying to explain is what they used.

@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Год назад

@@korganrocks3995absolutely 😂

@krahe3025 Год назад

Poor Dan, he was completely obliterated by Forrest even before he had a chance to finish his questions. I am a 6’1” with 12 size feet. I worked with a 6’3” guy who wore 8 size shoes. Anecdotal evidence but my point is: Foot size does not automatically points to the height of an individual.

@t800fantasm2 Год назад

I'm 6'5" with size 14 feet... And you're right... My kid is taller than me, but his shoes are like 4 sizes smaller...

@RogueBurn Год назад

I'm 6'0" and 390lbs. with size 12 EEE.

@sonicfan4511 Год назад

I'm 5'11 with size 13s.

@cynodont7391 Год назад

Sorry! Can't help you on that one. I must be from a different species since my height and feet are measured in cm.

@brc3967 Год назад

I'm 5'8" and wear 11 wide or 12 regular. Definitely not correlated.

@Awakened_Mucacha Год назад

This caller's brain went to the store to buy some milk.

@HisZotness 4 месяца назад

And never came back.

@ToddHurney 2 месяца назад

Incorrect...he doesn't know what a store is, let alone milk!

@johnscaramis2515 Год назад

The defense mechanism of Dan's belief against any sort of rational and logical considerations kicks in quite early. Any question which only touches the basis of his belief is immediately ignored or not understood. His pastors and religious mentors did a hell of a job...

@stephenkiernan8520 Год назад

Yep. No surprises here. After 20 minutes of respectful discussion about the science and evidence for many of the theories of evolution of species, the caller answers with. "Yeah, but in the bible, it says."

@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Год назад

There's no such thing as new anatomy/evolution. You are LOSING INFORMATION (dying) - not GAINING INFORMATION (evolving). Not in 10,000 yrs has any human, plant or animal presented w/ any new anatomy. Sorry, lost & clueless, shallow-thinking, propaganda gulping atheist fool, but you have no idea who you really are and where your PLACE is within reality. Don't continue to be ignorant. God loves you because you were created in his image. But he's also your Judge. I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.

@johnscaramis2515 Год назад

I wonder how those callers would react if Forrest would claim "you're wrong because the bible says x, but also y" and then pulling out some obscure verse in the bible.

@korganrocks3995 Год назад

@@johnscaramis2515 Isn't that exactly what the last part of this video was? He didn't even have to go obscure; verse two contradicted verse one! 😄

@bulkvanderhuge9006 Год назад

Good god, the Caller is using the "Spinal Tap" argument. Forrest just spent over 5 minutes debunking the caller's " Five foot nine" argument, and when Forrest was done, the caller responds with "But these go to eleven"

@steveyuhas9278 4 месяца назад

I love how Forrest, instead of saying "no, Adam and eve is stupid be that's wrong" just goes way into detail bout the actual facts to correct the caller in a fun and exciting way that doesn't make them feel stupid for saying something so ludicrous. It's like he answers all their false claims and propaganda with the actual reality of the situation in a really fun and contagious way and you can always tell they are taken aback by that. They are ready for people to fight them on it and instead, Forrest just educates them lol. He is fighting unsubstantiated, crazy claims with science lessons and I love it.

@maxrichards3881 2 месяца назад

Just wait until he has to put up with callers justifying slavery.

@ankebosing1968 Год назад

Forrest is so good explaining things, and so patient. Shame that Dan doesnt listen.

@Ugly_German_Truths Год назад

Their refusal to even LISTEN to a reply to their "questions" is what gets me the most. Forrest has superhuman patience.

@r0bw00d Год назад

I'm of the mind that Dan has a double digit IQ based upon his great hesitancies, uncertainties in speech, and inability to counter arguments. Worse, he was clearly raised on Christianity since birth, so should he ever realize--truly realize--that his eyes are closed, which will take most of his life (if ever), then his uphill battle is steeper than most others' and so he'll probably never reach the top before dying.

@capthavic Год назад

Forrest: *gives long detailed explanation* Theist caller: *crickets chirp*......but God tho....... Seriously you can almost hear the hamster wheels trying to turn in their heads.

@JamesJones-pm7tb Год назад

Forrest is just one of many fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!! The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL. These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!

@sideboob6851 Год назад

@@JamesJones-pm7tb Let the delusions flow, NEPy!

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@JamesJones-pm7tb the incoherent rants of an indoctrinated child. Get educated

@VintageDerby Год назад

The guy is searching his memorized apologia for an appropriate response, but he doesn't have any so he falls back to god and feet.

@Realist968 Год назад

This caller stands no chance. Keep up the good work Forrest. Your knowledge and articulateness is a good force for Atheists.

@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Год назад

No, Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS. NOTHING he touts has ever been observed in real time, but no atheist idea every is. Forrest is just another lost & clueless atheist fool that has no rational atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Thus, all atheists are delusional to believe in something that has no factual basis. It's the very definition being lost & clueless in regard to reality.

@Michael_800 Год назад

It became clear pretty quickly that the caller isn't the quickest, so that hypothetical and the, admittedly, clumsy examples at the end, really did no sides any favors. The caller even admits, that he doesn't get what they are asking, so I would have just let it go a good 5-10min earlier. For us it is cool to hear all the explanations and homo this and that, but I don't think it helped the caller any and he was just lost in the sauce for the last half if not more.

@jimsmith3029 Год назад

Christianity should be classified as a mental illness. This call is painful. I hope that Dan finds his way out of this disgusting cult.

@madjimms Год назад

"We were created seperate, we were created seperate, we were created seperate.... uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh" What a great response 🤢

@Judesmood118 Год назад

Forest is one of my favorite hosts because he actually engages and educates, and doesn't get hostile when the caller doesn't go along with him. He actually turns the skeptical caller's question into a learning moment and showcases his passion for the subject! Truly a labor of love and it is great to watch :)

@foxfireman188-ls1kv 7 месяцев назад

He's such a good teacher, the way he breaks a subject down into parts and explains every aspect and how they tie together for the benefit of the caller and the audience. You can tell he genuinely wants people to understand and is delighted to share his fascination with science.

@TheJimicus Год назад

You can almost hear the hamster wheel turning in his head every time they ask him a question.

@m8llermeister Год назад

"Dan, no pronouns. HE knows something we dont know" made me laugh

@jonnythelegs2597 Год назад

The only thing dan knows that we don't is just how little there is going on in his mind.

@jb888888888 Год назад

IKR GD Forrest, assuming Dan's gender.

@spinelessmoderate8715 Год назад

If only I had realized "science communicator" was a job when I was younger... Forrest, you make me want to talk science for a living.

@TariqJR253 Год назад

Forrest is one of the best hosts AXP has! He really shines when the caller wants to discuss evolution, the passion with which he can speak on the topic is a delight to watch!!

@danmallery9142 Год назад

Man, it's like walking down a sidewalk with someone, perfectly in step. You both come to a 1/2" wide crack in that sidewalk. You step over because you can see the continuity of the sidewalk. The person with you cannot step over that crack and are even incapable of seeing the sidewalk on the other side. It's mind blowing.

@ziploc2000 Год назад

In his mind Jeebus is walking with him, but he knows Jeebus can't make it over that crack, and if he steps over he'll have to leave his imaginary friend behind, and he's just too scared to do that.

@JamesJones-pm7tb Год назад

Except Jesus made the sidewalk. We know this world is created/designed, because FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) had a beginning and all matter is relentlessly and continuouslyl DECAYING/DYING over time toward it's heat death end. And a DYING WORLD requires a NON-DYING CAUSE (OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD). These facts are all explained in GENESIS.

@diogeneslamp8004 Год назад

Wow, really well put.

@jonclark8252 Год назад

@@JamesJones-pm7tb Stop embarrassing yourself. Everyone who recognizes you knows that you will run like the coward that you are when challenged to present evidence. Just like you have every single other time I have challenged you to a debate.

@neverendingparty1534 Год назад

@@jonclark8252 Run? Why run. My posts only continuously confirm that I own you. But don't go putting the proverbial pistol in your mouth yet, because you're not alone. I've been doing this to all atheists for 50 yrs.

@lassebongo126 Год назад

I hate when the theist callers don't answer the questions and just repeat their nonsense over and over again.

@erikthompson619 Год назад

Yeah, they're not comfortable with deviating from the script. And amazingly, it seems to me that most of them really didn't expect that they might have to.

@feedingravens Год назад

That means you hate the show 99% of the time. Not quite, especially what Forrest says is VERY interesting, one learns such a lot.

@CronoXpono Год назад

@@feedingravens For sure, it’s just frustrating when Forrest puts a freaking FILLET MIGNON of information and the fucking caller grabs the ketchup by simply refusing to acknowledge anything was actually demonstrated or explained. 😂 🤦‍♂️

@CronoXpono Год назад

@@ChristendomForUS 😂 here we go. Watch or don’t.

@samuellittle1286 Год назад

The idea that current day human beings have created the Earth's most technologically advanced civilization due to our intelligence evolving from ice age mental retardation into current day walking encyclopedia Britannica's. Speaking of the Smithsonian and fossils, do these fellas ever discuss G.E. Kincaid's claim of an ancient civilization who lived in a massive cave system in the Grand Canyon?? What about gigantic skeleton remains being discovered all over the world???

@sally8234 Год назад

I'm 5'2" and I wear a size 9.5 shoe. Shoe size tells you nothing about how tall someone is.

@timbo6719 Год назад

It’s quite sad, the guy who called in just has no clue what the hell is being explained to him!

@diogeneslamp8004 Год назад

Yes, all of this has gone sailing over his head.

@johndelsindico6307 Год назад

Forrest: 45 paragraphs on the assemblance of apes and man, Dan: uuuhhh, he had size 9 1/2 feet.

@jb888888888 Год назад

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is 7'2"+ (or was, he may have shrunk with time). Brad Williams is 4'4". They're both members of the same species. [edit] for the record, I typed that during the Lucy/footprints discussion, well before the Forrest/Jim discussion.

@thestovetopjerky6642 Год назад

It's just incredible how these people can be absolutely proven wrong by experts and still think that their answer is correct.

@Tittlemouse69 Год назад

They are conditioned to retain beliefs in spite of evidence. In fact, such denial and resistance is a merit badge that proves their faith.

@thestovetopjerky6642 Год назад

@@Tittlemouse69 Oh I know that all too well being a former confirmed catholic myself. I still find it incredible how indoctrination can completely cloud peoples minds and judgement. Hopefully the caller goes back and watches this again or a few more times and realizes he really needs to critically think about why he believes.

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

We're mammals but not animals. WTF???

@ericwilliams1659 Год назад

Manimals?

@diogeneslamp8004 Год назад

Caller skipped high school the year they taught biology.

@tryme3969 Год назад

Animals act or behave just like animals, they have absolutely no knowledge of sin.

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@tryme3969 so you're saying humans are not mammals?

@RaptorFH Год назад

@@tryme3969 ok, explain "sin"

@davestableford1516 Год назад

Never try to argue with someone whose tv is bigger than their bookshelf.

@evorock Год назад

I so agree with this statement, it's brilliant!

@whatabouttheearth Год назад

Lucy, the individual, was a small gal, just like how some female Homo sapiens might be really small, like 4 or 5 feet, she was small for her species and Australopithecus afarensis were sexually dimorphic so the females were smaller than the males, the males were generally around 5,6 to 6 feet like up. Size 9 foot is around 5'7" to 5'9", and somewhat variated from Homo sapiens so it makes perfect sense. The scientists really aren't trying to mislead you, the apologetics cats are.

@leonstevens1382 Год назад

I always admire Valkai’s patience with people who have very little knowledge and zero understanding of logic.

@stultusvenator3233 Год назад

It is amazing how creationists resistance to the obvious reality and facts. When on the other hand they "know" with no evidence at all.

@FoxInnaHat Год назад

DESTROYING the God denying SATANISTS with FLAWS and FEELINGS.

@brandonbyers335 Год назад

"-We ain't nothin' but mammals but we aint animals cuz we're humans" ~ Dan 2023

@JamesJones-pm7tb Год назад

Animals are not humans and humans are not animals. NO ANIMAL can split the atom or build a space shuttle w/ 250k moving parts & walk on the moon. Monkeys can't think/reason until they have an idea. Chickens can't cry. Only humans get schizophrenia. We PURPOSELY cook w/ fire, while animals are scared of fire. Animals can’t/don’t send their daughter to college, worship God or produce technology & explain it to paying students! Name an animal that can do any of these INTELLIGENTLY DYNAMIC things? THESE FACTS PROVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANS AND ANIMALS; THUS HUMANS ARE NOT ANIMALS! I rest my irrefutable case.

@jonclark8252 Год назад

@@JamesJones-pm7tb "Animals are not humans and humans are not animals." You can't even present evidence that proves your deity exists. Your cowardice and ignorance have been laid bare for all to see. This is no different.

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

@@JamesJones-pm7tb animals did split the atom. Animals designed and built that device that you are displaying your ignorance to the world on and chimps have started using stone tools. Something I suspect is beyond your ability.

@neverendingparty1534 Год назад

@@jonclark8252 That's not the topic, kid. But just to prove I can prove God: God is easy to prove. Even God himself said you're "without excuse" to know he exists just by looking at what's been made (Romans 1:20). So the best thing to do is actually take a look at what's been made and maybe even look at the best thing that has been made - the reproducing human being. Atheism says star dust or a mud puddle made the reproducing human being. If you don't like "star dust" or a "mud puddle," then feel free to use your own Godless cause, but it will be equally asinine. Most atheists are cowards and just say "we don't make claims." But how could they? Are you actually going to say a mud puddle has the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce the reproducing human being? So there's that. Next, we can look at the human being, animals & plants and note they're all DECAYING/DYING/LOSING INFORMATION in disorder over time (entropy). Right along w/ the rest of God's creation (FINITE NATURE: time/space/matter/energy), they never maintain their health or add NEW INFORMATION/evolution. They all go ONLY in one relentless/continuous direction: bad to worse. And a DYING entity requires a NON-DYING CAUSE. We call that entity OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD. Nothing exists without "time" and the required cause of "time" is TIMELESS. And if you're "timeless," do you have a beginning or end? No. These are the facts & they are irrefutable. Bottom up design doesn't make any sense, because EVERYTHING can't come from NOTHING to be EVERYTHING by NOTHING for the purpose of NOTHING. Top down design (GENESIS) makes sense, because you have God at the top. You just have to find the courage to "face the music," so to speak. We all have a boss and God is a good boss. He's our creator, so he's worthy of our due. P.S. > God ALONE has the required LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, POWER, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce the reproducing human being, because God ALONE is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.

@Captain-Cosmo Год назад

The Laetoli footprints range in size from 161.7 to 185.4 millimeters (6.36 to 7.30 inches) in length. This suggests that the individuals who made the footprints were between 101 and 165 centimeters (39.8 and 65 inches) tall. The footprints are also relatively narrow, with a ratio of foot width to length of 0.82 to 0.86. This suggests that the individuals who made the footprints had feet that were more human-like than ape-like. The equivalent human shoe size for the Laetoli footprints would be between a size 5 and a size 7 in the US, or a size 3 and a size 5 in the UK. This is based on the average foot size of a modern human, which is 26.5 centimeters (10.4 inches) long. The Laetoli footprints are slightly smaller than this, so the equivalent shoe size would be slightly smaller as well.

@Krikenemp18 Год назад

Isn't that foot-to-height ratio based on humans though? Why would we use it on something neither side of the debate thinks is human?

@Captain-Cosmo Год назад

@@Krikenemp18 You have asked two questions. Would you care to provide an alternative conclusion?

@adamboyen4727 Год назад

@@Captain-Cosmo a 3 foot 8 homo floresiensis has the same foot size of a 5 foot 9 homo sapien, you've constructed a circular argument by basing your assumptions on the characteristics homo sapiens to develop the conclusion that these were homo sapiens, but the fact remains that we actually have completed specimens that contradict your initial assumptions, so what I suggest you actually do is look for other characteristics of the laetolli region, including the footprints

@Captain-Cosmo Год назад

@@adamboyen4727 Argue with the Smithsonian, the source of the information, not me. I suspect that none of us are experts in the field.

@jns8393 Год назад

@@Krikenemp18 @Michael's 2nd para debunks the Dan's claim that the Laetoli footprint was the equivalent of US size 9. Dan was the one comparing it to homo sapiens.

@mikahbee Год назад

You can just feel his brain crumbling

@dylanorr2127 Год назад

It's like there's a wall in his mind commanding him to stop and not think about or answer certain questions.

@JamesJones-pm7tb Год назад

"Brain crumbling?" Says the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.

@VintageDerby Год назад

He's flipping through hundreds of pages of scripted apologia searching for an appropriate response. This guy's mind is closed off.

@cynodont7391 Год назад

You can almost hear him constantly thinking "If I agree on anything that atheist is saying then I will go to Hell"

@Grimnir1007 Год назад

From what I saw on Wikipedia about the size of the 2 individuals' footprints, one was 7.25 inches and the other was 8.5 inches So the caller might has been mislead... shocking to think creationists might have lied, but it seems possible

@Quinn37 Год назад

Dan doesn't even have the capacity to understand how thoroughly he gets owned.

@soulcrewblue8629 Год назад

Yeah, textbook believer.

@yeetme3940 Год назад

@@soulcrewblue8629 What do you mean by this?

@heinshaaine8153 Год назад

@@soulcrewblue8629 Cute, nice projection. So suddenly it is bad to belive a book without question, but when its he bible you pretend it is something good.. How do you call hypocrites again?

@ericwilliams1659 Год назад

@Heins Haaine who reads a book and just assumes it is true?

@soulcrewblue8629 Год назад

@@heinshaaine8153 you misunderstood my point.

@williamtarry4405 Год назад

Every time I hear a theist say they can disprove evolution, they do not actually disprove evolution. It would help theists more if they could prove that a god exists, but that doesn't seem to be something they are willing to do.

@FoxInnaHat Год назад

Theist: "There has to be an Unmoved Mover, and that Unmoved Mover is God...." Atheist: " But why cant the Unmoved Mover be the universe itself?" Theist: "Incorrect..... I shall not elaborate either......"

@AmrasFelagund 6 месяцев назад

Because they usually see disproving evolution as proving God at the same time, because creationists see "evolutionists" as crafting the theory and finding more evidence for it specifically to spite God. They don't comprehend that God doesn't enter the minds of these scientists as their findings incidentally render him a relic and a legend. Disproving evolution does not prove God any more than proving evolution disproves God.

@brynpookc1127 Год назад

Poor Dan just wants to be God’s special little boy. 😊

@silverwing4153 Год назад

I made the comment on the actual video but lets double dip. "Humans are smarter than that." Buddy you're really making a strong argument against that.

@wepa7872 Год назад

Forrest was precisely and eloquently on point. Poetic

@neverendingparty7741 Год назад

Not even close. Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS. NOTHING he touts has ever been observed in real time, but no atheist idea every is. Forrest is just another lost & clueless atheist fool that has no rational atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Thus, all atheists are delusional to believe in something that has no factual basis. It's the very definition being lost & clueless in regard to reality.

@sideboob6851 Год назад

@@neverendingparty7741 Thanks for feeding the algorithm, NEPy.

@Albrik_IT 6 месяцев назад

@@neverendingparty7741 grow up kid

@neverendingparty7741 6 месяцев назад

@@Albrik_ITAtheism is a faith, but it's faith is baseless, because there's no factual support for a godless world.

@davidveater3711 Год назад

I love the way Forrest explains things and his sense of humor.

@thegreatcanadianweasel9928 Год назад

I can just see Gustick Gibbon screaming at the screen while watching this

@evorock Год назад

The poor lady would be having an embolism, as did I 😂😂

@dimitriostheodorides1580 Год назад

I simply can not justify being a Christian in the traditional sense anymore. To take a stance and say EVERYTHING is wrong because I want to believe this. Is.......silly and frightening for anyone refusing to relinquish that stance ❤😮😮😂😂

@Rewildyourlife Год назад

Forrest PLEASE, pretty please write a book about proof of evolution for people wanting to explore outside Creationism? I'd love to have a book like that on my shelf!🥰

@Boblw56 Год назад

It’s been done many times by far more qualified biologists. E.g. “Why Evolution is True” by Jerry Coyne, or a myriad of Richard Dawkins works. The evidence is overwhelming and unassailable.

@KL-uu2vq Год назад

Momma said the jeebus created us. 😂😂

@JamesJones-pm7tb Год назад

Well, you didn't actually think we came from a mud puddle, right? God is the only rational cause for this world. Atheism says star dust or a mud puddle made the reproducing human being. If you don't like "star dust" or a "mud puddle," then feel free to use your own Godless cause, but it will be equally asinine. Most atheists are cowards and just say "we don't make claims." But how could they? Are you actually going to say a mud puddle has the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce the reproducing human being? So there's that. Next, we can look at the human being, animals & plants and note they're all DECAYING/DYING/LOSING INFORMATION in disorder over time (entropy). Right along w/ the rest of God's creation (FINITE NATURE: time/space/matter/energy), they never maintain their health or add NEW INFORMATION/evolution. They all go ONLY in one relentless/continuous direction: bad to worse. And a DYING entity requires a NON-DYING CAUSE. We call that entity OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD. Nothing exists without "time" and the required cause of "time" is TIMELESS. And if you're "timeless," do you have a beginning or end? No. These are the facts & they are irrefutable. Bottom up design doesn't make any sense, because EVERYTHING can't come from NOTHING to be EVERYTHING by NOTHING for the purpose of NOTHING. Top down design (GENESIS) makes sense, because you have God at the top. You just have to find the courage to "face the music," so to speak. We all have a boss and God is a good boss. He's our creator, so he's worthy of our due. P.S. > God ALONE has the required LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, POWER, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce the reproducing human being, because God ALONE is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.

@padajsiloinepravdo6299 Год назад

If the LARD didn’t create us, why my Bible SAY he did?

@jimsmith3029 Год назад

Wow, Forrest. Even by your standards, this is an absolute tour de force.

@JohnFleshman 10 месяцев назад

Wow. you can here the callers mental gears grinding fully to a halt every time they ask him a question. And I agree Forrest is an awesome addition to this channel.

@richiejohnson Год назад

21:40 After playing with the mouse awhile, Forrest lines him up for the kill. 23:15 Forrest takes a single shot right through Dan's pineal. 27:23 Dan is unfazed. Dan will sleep very well tonight. He knows the Truth.

@Tinman69 Год назад

So satisfying to watch. I've probably witnessed personally, participated in or watched videos covering thousands of these arguments with theists. I've never once see a theist win a single logical argument. Still, they persist in their silly belief.

@DaveCM Год назад

And their arguments never change! They hear tired old apologetics and regurgitate it as if it is unique and new. They usually mess it up to boot

@johnsperry9494 Год назад

@@DaveCM They just don't know any better and they are unwilling to learn.

@lidbass 11 месяцев назад

And at the end they claim that they _have_ won, and with using logic! The mind boggles….

@DaveCM 11 месяцев назад

@@lidbass They did win! It is just because you are keeping your mind and your heart closed to God. If you will just open your heart and listen to him, you will understand. LOL🤣 Sorry. Was going to troll, but I can't keep a straight face.

@lidbass 11 месяцев назад

@@DaveCM Well, it is written that all people have god in their heart, so I guess you are right. I'll see you in church... Great troll, by the way. You did have me, until that last sentence!

@adamthaxton3157 Год назад

Right at 7:49 you can see where the caller's brain just realized what was about to happen and he went ahead anyway.

@kurman4749 Год назад

Jim and Forrest are truly phenomenal. I love those guys.

@RegebroRepairs Год назад

I checked it out. The size he says about the footprint is the largest possible size of the largest individual in the footprint. That size, some 155-165 cm tall, fits well with the largest skeleton they have found. which was likely around 165 cm tall. The skeletons found indicate a very large sexual dimorphism, ie, Australopethicies had much taller and larger males than females. Lucy is one of the smallest adult individuals found at around 105cm tall. So, the Laetoli footprint fits perfectly with the skeletons of Australopithecus afarensis we have found. Which is why we think it's Australopithecus afarensis.

@korganrocks3995 Год назад

B-b-but a chimp can't be that tall...😄

@Raven.flight Год назад

“I challenge thee to a duel” “Right, I accept, I bought a gun, what did you bring? A knife?” “Oh, no, I bought nothing”

@idpro83 Год назад

Wow I think this caller hasn't answered a single one of the many questions. That's not easy to do. 🤯

@Montesama314 Год назад

Saying that Lucy's species' evolution is disproven because a set of footprints from the same era as her are bigger than hers, is like saying that humanity couldn't have existed in the 21st century because an NBA player's feet were too big to match another guy's footprints on a beach. A species doesn't normally consist of creatures with the EXACT same dimensions for every organism within the classification.

@korganrocks3995 Год назад

Exactly. A quick google search gets you the info that the largest recorded human feet were 18½ inches or 47 centimeters, which is literally twice as long as mine, and I'm 5'10, which is pretty much average height for an adult male human. Nothing rots people's brains like religion...

@gunnarface3761 Год назад

"One of us is this weird, skinny, large headed nerd and one of us is a Dashingly handsome gentlemen"

@amtlpaul Год назад

Lo! Behold the moist rocks troll Ranting and raving on a roll!

@sideboob6851 Год назад

It's straight jacket time for Moisty.

@joshsheridan9511 Год назад

Evolution triggers him for some reason. Maybe it makes him realise that your average chimp could outwit him.

@nealjroberts4050 Год назад

I try to ignore them as all they really want is attention

@RiiDIi Год назад

The size argument would be like saying Andre the Giant disproves we exist. His size is inconsistent with how big we are. Therefore we all are fake.

@davidantell2855 Год назад

This is what clutching at straws sounds like. Forrest has so much patience.

@bonediga2560 6 месяцев назад

When I listen to Forrest - I get smarter - And happier - Thanks Forrest :)

@julief5291 Год назад

I hate washing up dishes so I pray for them to clean themselves, ye right!!?? That works!

@robby7499 Год назад

Should show us his Nobel prize with his "discovery."

@DontRespectTheUS Год назад

Every time (hardly exaggerating) the response to that is that all academic institutions are rigged to make them feel bad.

@kaiza6467 Год назад

Guaranteed he believes in the global conspiracy of evil scientists keeping down evidence of god. 😂

@heinshaaine8153 Год назад

@@DontRespectTheUS But it must feel bad if the odds are so stacked against you

@neverendingparty1534 Год назад

Nobel? Why do you lost and clueless atheist toons keep mentioning the Nobel? Why would someone give a Nobel prize for what has already been proven (creation) and disproving what hasn't been proven (evolution)? Especially since they are giving Nobel Prizes for speculation for evolution which also fits creation? It is a red herring argument because you don't have anything that can prove evolution happened. Creation has been shown to be true for thousands of years. God is easy to prove. Even God himself said you're "without excuse" to know he exists just by looking at what's been made (Romans 1:20). So the best thing to do is actually take a look at what's been made and maybe even look at the best thing that has been made - the reproducing human being. Atheism says star dust or a mud puddle made the reproducing human being. If you don't like "star dust" or a "mud puddle," then feel free to use your own Godless cause, but it will be equally asinine. Most atheists are cowards and just say "we don't make claims." But how could they? Are you actually going to say a mud puddle has the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce the reproducing human being? So there's that. Next, we can look at the human being, animals & plants and note they're all DECAYING/DYING/LOSING INFORMATION in disorder over time (entropy). Right along w/ the rest of God's creation (FINITE NATURE: time/space/matter/energy), they never maintain their health or add NEW INFORMATION/evolution. They all go ONLY in one relentless/continuous direction: bad to worse. And a DYING entity requires a NON-DYING CAUSE. We call that entity OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD. Nothing exists without "time" and the required cause of "time" is TIMELESS. And if you're "timeless," do you have a beginning or end? No. These are the facts & they are irrefutable. Bottom up design doesn't make any sense, because EVERYTHING can't come from NOTHING to be EVERYTHING by NOTHING for the purpose of NOTHING. Top down design (GENESIS) makes sense, because you have God at the top. You just have to find the courage to "face the music," so to speak. We all have a boss and God is a good boss. He's our creator, so he's worthy of our due. P.S. > God ALONE has the required LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, POWER, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce the reproducing human being, because God ALONE is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.

@HammershotSGD Год назад

Forrest could go on for hours and I’d listen

@neverendingparty4832 Год назад

Then you'd listen to a fool with ZERO ANSWERS. What does that say about you? Lost & clueless you are.

@sideboob6851 Год назад

@@neverendingparty4832 Let that religious hatred flow, NEPy!

@t800fantasm2 Год назад

@@neverendingparty4832 "What does that say about you?" Well, YOU are a fool with zero answers... Why didn';t you answer when I asked you if God looks like a woman if we are all made in God's image? Why didn't you answer when I asked you before if God has a penis and testicles and if so why? Why didn't you answer when I asked you if God created designed everything why did he design you to be a fool?

@exceptionallyaverage3075 Год назад

@@neverendingparty4832 Why don't you call one of the shows he's hosting. But you should know, you'll need to use your brain for more than keeping your ears separated. On second thought, you shouldn't call in. You're not smart enough to argue with him.

@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Год назад

@@t800fantasm2 Only a fool (you, maybe more) would try to describe anything about God. HE IS ETERNAL and has no need for human parts/weaknesses. EVERYTHING comes from him. Try to learn.

@ToddHurney 2 месяца назад

Forrest...you blew this dudes mind when you said hello you're on the air!!!

@Ken_Scaletta Год назад

You can see the dull, indifferent incomprhension n this caller's zombified eyes just from listening to him. Someone utterly uninterested in truth. There's something entitled about this type of mentality. "I know..." They think they are entitled to call their faith beliefs "knowledge" even when that contradicts flat reality. It's narcissistic.

@neverendingparty1534 Год назад

"Truth?" Says the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.

@darkhymnsfromthecoldnorth Год назад

Forrest would make a great teacher/professor.

@jaymercha3859 Год назад

He is both.

@darkhymnsfromthecoldnorth Год назад

@@jaymercha3859 I only just learned that. Very cool.

@mcarp555 Год назад

After Forrest does his usual excellent job of summarizing human evolution for fifteen minutes, the best reply Dan had was to ask how did Pakicetus evolve a tail. Epic fail and it just shows you how religion dumbs people down.

@Rhewin 6 месяцев назад

Fun fact: that verse in Gen 2 saying "had formed" is from the NIV and ESV. It is a deliberate mistranslation to harmonize the texts. They don't even give a footnote to explain the mistranslation. As those two translations are widely used by evangelical churches, it's a big reason that many evangelicals aren't even vaguely aware the Bible has 2 separate creation accounts.

@BananaHams 11 месяцев назад

Thank you, Forrest! One of my majors for my BA was Anthropology (Archaeology core, a while ago...). I loved the bio anth classes. Skeletal identification was awesome. Also, in Canada, but fortunately not raised religious. Only parts of the bible I ever read was the Book of Daniel for a Classics course, and when I was around 8, my Catholic friend's mom gave me a tiny pocket bible. Lost me at all the so and so begat, and then begat...and on and on....zzzzzzz

@Swinefeld Год назад

Dan from Canada is definitely a vegetable.

@diogeneslamp8004 Год назад

I was waiting for Forrest’s usual response: we move too much to be plants and too big to be bacteria so we must be animals.

@evidencebased1 Год назад

Maybe Dan will listen to this a few times over the next years and understand more. Maybe if he lowers his guard over time, what Forest was saying will sink in and move Dan over a bit. Thank you Forrest for you patience and enthusiasm!