DO NOT Buy a Dodge Charger RT over a Charger SCATPACK 392... UNLESS! 

I’m 19 and got a rt and I’m happy, don’t let ppl convince you into a bad financial decision wait your turn , I’ll have a scat or cat eventually

Like I told you before, Knockout 360. I love my R/T with 171,891 miles and it still goes strong. I had a Chrysler SRT and it's a gas guzzler and I had problems towards the end. So I would never do 392 so I learned a lot from having that car. R/T is the way to go.

I have a 2020 challenger R/T with active exhaust it’s still stock and I absolutely love it I’ll never try to make it to be as fast as a scat I love it because it’s an R/T top speed 155 mph is way more than enough for me sometimes you just gotta love your car for what it is no matter what kind of car you buy

dont matter 5.7, 6.4 or cat. just get in the game! and enjoy your mopar!

The 5.7 is unfortunately detuned from factory in order to separate it further from the scat pack. Because a tuned 5.7 is making 400+hp and as for the 6.4, 6.2 they are both just modified 5.7 hemi’s tbh.

I agree. You have to buy within your budget without settling. When I first bought my 5.7, they were trying to sell me a 3.6 because I didn't have car buying credit. Got my stuff together, came back 6 months, bought a brand new 5.7 with every option I wanted.

Nope. I've had both. The 5.7 is a great all around and underrated car. Loved it. The scatpack is faster. That's about it. Love both.

Most importantly, I love your content! You know your stuff! I have a 2018 Challenger R/T. Thank you for the 5.7 love. But I think you might not quite have your finger on the pulse of a typical R/T owner. Most of us just want a solid car with V8 power, that Hemi sound, and really aren’t interested in more than 375 HP. We don’t want to race or go 0 to 180. Some do! Most don’t. Don’t get me wrong itd be fun to have a scat pack, but I’m happy with my mostly stock R/T!

5.7 all day 🤘🏾a lot of ppl thought my 2018 R/T was a scat 😂… but I ain’t scared ta run my shit 😎

I’m 22 I had a 3.6. I upgraded to a 5.7 rt mid last year. Low key sometimes I wish I woulda waited and got me a scat but hey it is what it is. At the end of the day I’m happy with the RT. I doubt I’ll go to a scat no since I’m coming from 3.6 to a 5.7. I think in the future I’ll just get a used hell cat. I just got what I could afford cause they taxing on them scats right now so I just got the rt because it’s more affordable and it’s a perfect balance between reliability and power. I know God will bless me with an abundance so I’ll be able to afford a hell cat in the future 🙏🏽

The Drag Pak Challenger run a small displacement Gen3 Hemi, I think it's a like a 5.8L small block Hemi with a Supercharger, and they're running in the 7's in the quarter... so the 5.7 does have potential & as far as reliability is concerned, it's all in the engine builder who puts it together and assemble it & the parts that used... I was smoking 2 Chargers yesterday on the interstate and both of them were 392's and I left them 3 times in my R/T.... I feel the 5.7 is definitely underrated and looked down upon

Get the car for the passion. There is always a car faster than you, but only one (or fine, a few) that fill your heart with joy, and give you a lifetime of memories

I’ve had both. Right now in 392WB. Can honestly say the 5.7L performance was pretty close to the 6.4L. But, I definitely feel more power with the 392 and it hits corners so much harder. Still would take the 392 all day but not gonna say the R/T is really that big of a difference. Just my opinion. And good point on you want to get what you can afford bc I’d have a redeye if I could. I’d be saying the same thing I bet because they are all fast coming from a 84’ Subaru wagon missing a back passenger door back in 98’ for my first ride 😂

When I purchased my 2021 slim body I was looking at a wide body also . But remember it’s not just 6000 extra it’s also put in a loan and will cost a lot more. My opinion I got mine because of the Hemi experience not the fenders

Ordered my scat widebody charger, when I was a kid my dad had an 03 ctsv. I have great memories of tearing up the streets with that thing. Since he passed I always wanted a big v8 sedan, now I'll have one to enjoy with my daughter as she grows up. Can't wait to pass along those memories

Bro got outta v6 and lost his marbles 🤣. Chill my boi

My R/T is the perfect car. I have the black top and performance handling packages. It's a great daily driver, my insurance is cheaper, I can get 26-28 mpg on the highway and it's easy to mod when I'm ready. Plus I'm not as worried about it getting jacked. Great content, love the channel !

as a person who used to own a Dodge charger RT if you can afford a scat pack get the scat pack. trust me it's the better move.

you buy a 5.7 if you want to daily it, 6.4 is for when you want to be Ricky Bobby. 6.4 is faster , but 5.7 can keep up. 10k price difference to me wasn’t the problem, finding a low mileage scat RIGHT NOW is rare, so unless you are ready to fix a scat that is out of warranty, once the lifters leave the chat.. 5.7 is the way to go

Nobody stealing RTs bro.. scats and cats gotta roll strapped lol. 3rd reason

I see what you're saying. But it depends. If you're getting a 5.7 daytona with the Alcantara/leather memory cooled/heated seats, upgraded suspension, 20X9 wheels, adapted cruise/lane assist, Mopar intake/daytona specially tuned 345 with that deep exhaust note over a base scat with wack cloth seats then IDK!

Everyone's scenarios and goals are different, it shouldn't matter. We all Mopar Ⓜ️

I can give you the best reason you buy a 5.7--you are going to get a spare tire! I had to buy an aftermarket spare for my Charger Scat and it eats up a lot of the trunk. At the end of the day, nothing sounds like a V-8--whatever size. Back in the days of muscle, MOPAR's best selling big block, the 440 with a 4-barrel carb was only making about 370hp. The 5.7 makes the same with a more fuel efficient engine with fuel injection.

Another good video Knockout. I got a 5.7 Challenger and I love it but if I was able to afford Scat I definitely would have gotten the Scat over the 5.7. Just stay in your financial lane and get what you can afford. All these cars look and sound good..

I love the 5.7 and the 6.4...2 be honest...your not going 2 be able 2 do the top speeds for anyone of them unless u take them 2 the track. Be happy with what u have ,because there are alot of people who wish they could have both,but they can't afford them...

5.7 IS THE MOVE!!! Way cheaper than scat and hellcat!!. You can modify the engine to be equal or faster than scat thats just my opinion. Anyways im gonna get a RT at the end of the day. The dealerships are overpricing the scats and hellcats wasnt for that i would get scat for MSRP no brainer!! but as for right now people i know bought an RT love it!! Not lot of people can’t afford an Scat and Cat especially the crazy interest rates on Auto Loans even you have good or better credit😓🤦🏽

Buy what you want to buy period. The 5.7 has more room to grow just a few bolt ons and e85 and I can beat stock scat chargers. Also I would say price point plays a big roll and having fun by building it as a “car guy” youre suppose to have fun modifying your car. “Built no bought” thats what we go by.

I took at 5.7 pursuit cause of very low mileage and it was in my price range. I plan on trading in before I get to 100k. I got it with 51k on it. Had it a year. Definitely want the 392. But still very pleased with the 5.7. I agree with you. I think it’s more of a graduation process type thing. You can’t just get in 392 never driven a Hemi before. That’s how they wrap themselves around a tree. Start with the 5.7, get used to taking care of it , driving it., the power , then upgrade. Some of these guys don’t even be ready for the 6.4. Next thing you know it’s for sale of copart all mangled up lol

I own an RT as a family car is great on gas and is light to the pedal, maybe not a 6.4 but I don’t see it like that, is a great daily to me, I also own a C7 vette for the fun times. However this guy has a point, you buy according to your needs

Absolutely agree I have an R/T that’s what my budget allowed me to get. Added some modifications & I love it. But if I could afford a 6.4 scat best believe I would have gotten it.

Out of everything you said I totally agree with you but I also like the fact you included if your pockets allow you.. Don’t go putting yourself in debt to fit in nothing wrong with the 5.7.

Had a friend who blew the torque converter under warranty. Dodge flashed the car and claimed the damage was from abuse. So, these cars come with burnout modes, zero to 60 times, etc. However, I wouldn't say you can run the shit out of these cars because when shit breaks, dealers will flash the car to see how you drive the car and look for reasons to repair the car outside the warranty. Be cautious.

I like your talking points! I went straight to a ZX14 show bike in 2008! It’s a 2006. I’m still riding and never laid it down.

When I got my 19 Rt. I was working for Amazon. That’s All I could afford. I’m a truck driver now and can afford a scat and Hellcat now. But I’m cool with my RT. I’m barely at home to have a scat or hellcat sitting for so long. Due to me being on the road for long time periods. Get what you can afford.

Widebody is also different suspension, plus electrically dampened suspension with drive modes controlling those as well as electronic power steering. Definitely worth buying the factory version!

Hellcat owners can say the same about your scat… why didn’t you wait and just buy a hellcat?

I ended up getting a rt . When I had to chance to get a hellcat I used that money for a down-payment on my house and just got a modest rt challenger

R/T is for somebody who wants to build a faster car & it’s good for mods compared to the scat it’s harder to mod and gain power. The fastest dodge car is the 5.7 because dodge came out with a drag strip car which is powered by a 5.7 which produces an impressive 1000-1200 hp

The cost is being able to say it’s built not bought it’s a more rewarding feeling of having something like a 5.7 you built up from stock rather than just going to buy a stock 6.4 and the most that is done to it is LEDs and fatter tires and a little tune or something some people would rather buy a 5.7 just off the fact that they wanna build it up to be better than a 6.4 etc, it shouldn’t be an obligation or rule to buy the better engine option just because it has more power when some people just wanna build a car not just buy it

Alwayz Angry has a Challenger R/T 5.7 with a Hellcat blower putting more down to the wheels than a stock Hellcat

My first challenger was a 5.7 shaker. I look into what I would have to do to get to scat pack level. Or just buy a scat pack shaker. Well the rt just gets 1 more mile per gallon than the scat. Wow. By the time I could modify the rt & still no way near the hp of the scat, I had no warranty. I just bought a scat shaker instead. I liked the rt but no contest.

The R/T can look the same, it's cheaper and so is the insurance. They are also less likely to be stolen.

I love my 2016 /3.6 bought brand new. Now I’m in 2023 scat pack . Mannnnn I love it!

I am very happy with my 5.7 I have a ram truck with a 5.7 pushing close to 140k with no issues I sold a 300 with well over 150k miles also no issues and that is the reason I bought a 2020 R/T. The 5.7 is a proven platform. Now as far as performance dodge built the 5.7 R/T for fuel economy and drivability. The 5.7 from the factory comes with a very restrictive header that is killing power but remember they didn't put a better flowing header on it the way they did the 6.4 and also another thing for the fuel economy the 5.7 R/T Differential gearing is set up for lower rpm fuel economy and a open differential for better drivability and control. I have changed out both my differential and headers and I am very very happy the way the car pulls and sounds and it looks good af. I am amazed when people talk crap about the 5.7 they fell to mention or don't do their research on why this was done. I have no problems running with scats while getting better gas mileage, easier to maintain, cheaper to insure and hell the 85% percent of the public don't even know the difference

485hp at that weight for that price and STILL a N/A? I can, get the 5.7 and mod it yourself. Sounds like you are new to car modifications and body and engine work. Your car is still relatively stock and still looks like the average scat that you see in a Walmart parking lot, same air dam, side skirts,,same rear diffuser

I had the choice over a scat and a loaded rt and I chose the rt. Price was only 4 grand off. Scat challenger and charger rt in f8 green. I wanted the charger. But I have much more room for growth when it comes down to my engine😈😈

i mean a fbo rt will get a stock scat pack and it is less then the price difference for both of those cars to fbo a rt. but i understand. people like building the cars tho

Everytime I hear someone say, "no offense to the R/T guys." I laugh. That shit is just so funny

I just looking into buying a scatpack and watching this video made so much common sense. Like you stated, if you look at the prices, you gonna spend the same amount of money trying to modify the R/T.

Had a 2017 5.7 for 3yrs got what my money could afford at the time, loved my 5.7 didn’t have any plans to mod the engine so I got my money right after 3 yrs & got me a 2021 fully loaded widebody Scat 485 hp is plenty of power for me I’m good!!😤💪🏾💨

let people buy what they wanna buy bro

1st. All the hate to everything that isn’t a 392 or hellcat is kinda interesting. Your 392 is slower than the Camaro ss and mustang 5.0. The 485 hp at 4400 lbs is not very Efficient. A Camaro ss with or without the 1LE package is faster and so is the mustang gt with or without the performance package. Power to weight, tires, gearing , all go into play when racing. My ATS V will surely smoke that ass without question . 2. Albeit the 5.7 might not have as much power as the 6.4 but the 5.7 has been tried and true for ages and is extremely tunable with a vast realm for after market parts. You can get a wide body RT which that wide body is quite laughable after seeing how it’s installed via adding body panels and not factory part of the real chassis like a z06 or grand sport corvette per se. 3. It seems like this is your first v8 coming from your v6 and it feels like a dream to you which it should. But if you go back and look at how you present yourself you seem narcissistic in that you have the best car around. You talk shit on every single car that’s not yours even though your beloved dodge slowly fades away as they gave up and caved into all electric. 4. A real car enthusiast will have respect and appreciate all cars for what they are built for and what they do. Maybe because I am a little older than you and have been building all cars from Evo to corvette and Cadillac V series cars and owning a charger myself. A car is what the owner makes of it and if they are happy with it. 5. I appreciate your passion and love for dodge which I have as well and for all car companies but take a step back and go to some cars and coffee and see what’s out there, go to an actual track and see what you can do against others stock and modded, learn to drive with some lessons from a professional and auto cross , I know I did and it helped and gave me a nice serving of humble pie. All I’m saying is don’t put false information out there and talk bad about other companies or people, especially enthusiasts. And you can bet you pants that the 2024 mustang gt and dark horse are coming and ford didn’t give up. Keep the petrol and manual transmission alive. Good luck and congrats and being back on the road.

I think your 100% right on a financial and peace of mind stand point, but the build process, the learning experience , wins ,losses ,engine failures, worries, and progression are very important , not everyone should just hop in the driver seat of 500+ hp muscle car with no prior experience or progression, and we see all to often what happens when they do. but their is also some to be said about knowing your car will always start get you where you want safely and not blow up and leave you with a payment and no warranty.

Buy what you want fellas; if you roll an RT you'll get a thumbs up from me in my Scat Challenger WB.

Honestly I have a 2017 Daytona R/t. Coming back from my deployment most of the scatpacks were overpriced. I was specifically looking for a fully loaded v8 and when I had the chance to get a white 392 dayton someone bought it cash before the day I was suppose to buy it. Long story short I love my 5.7. Plan on supercharging and building it. Either way I like both.

Yall hurt in the comments because you have an RT and missing the point smh the man literally said if your wallet can take it. He is not saying an RT is a bad decision, he is saying if you can afford a Scat but still choose to get an RT just to mod it, you probably shouldn't because it is not worth risk.

Just got a 25K mile Widebody charger Mod list is a aftermarket ehxaust, Corvin 5 inch tips, JTL intake. KN filter, rear splitter new Brimbos and a nice set of pirellis.

I can definitely dig what you are saying regarding peace of mind. I agree with you on that piece 100%. Buy what you can afford now.. or save until you can get exactly what you want.

The RT in the Scat Pack have the same transmission

Most people who got scats and hell cats don’t even own them 😂

There are several reasons to get an R/T over a scat pack. 1) It’s cheaper than a 6.4, 2) Better gas mileage than a 6.4, 3) Takes better to modifications than a 6.4 (because the 6.4 is pretty optimized from the factory, 4) Not targeted for theft as much as the 6.4. I have a 5.7 and I personally would never trade it in for a 392. I would go straight to a hellcat. The 5.7 sounds better than the 6.4 to me.

Iight so knockout you said it yourself the 6.4 is topped out the 5.7 is not topped out to its max potential that's why those ppl are buying the 5.7 and it's full potential is more horses than the 6.4

The ONLY reason I got is this, I'm a car guy, I bought a RT (23 last call edition) with the specific intention of building it myself. Granted, mine is a super track pack so I got 385hp stock but the 5.7 responds better to modification and there are a lot more power play options. Of course I wouldn't recommend the average person to build one up but I like to have my own hands in my cars.

I agree with you in all of this. I still have my 2015 R/T charger and still looking great I have a few make up like front spoiler, black top wrap 265 all around ( I was planning 275) and K/N air, and a paddle comander. I will never transform my car to a 392 or anything else. I was thinking a hood but I decided to just leave it as it is. Planning to upgrade chances are I my stick with a 5.7 very reliable engine so far. So far, just 53,599 in 8 years. Top speed drive 122 (I know I know that ain't shit) but after getting two big tickets I chilling now😁

The R/T is definitely the more pragmatic choice, so I understand why someone would recommend it over a Scat Pack

btw there is a law that they need to prove that “your mod” caused failure to the car. and if it doesn’t cause failure they have to warranty it

See some of us RT guys not trying to be the fastest car at the track we like the looks we like V8 hemi horsepower and we like the sound of them pipes that's loud but not all the time

You sound like my dad,tild me the same thing,you know what i listen to him,i have a 2008 6.1 srt now i have a 2016 hellcat and it will stay stock i love how it drives.

Amen!!!! Saw Racer X say that 5.7 and upgrades. I want that warranty! 6.4 all day!!

You’re right knockout 360 completely 🔥🔥🔥💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

Same frame of mind. I live by "buy it nice or buy it twice".

Miss your intro driving through Charlotte…bring it back for a couple posts…best for Mopar posts…

The scat widebody has a bunch of suspension tweaks. It isn't just power but handling. I believe adaptive suspension is default with the widebody. Bigger sway bars. I feel like the 392 scat widebody is the sweet spot in value.

I’m glad you touched on this topic..I personally feel like an optioned out 5.7 is the best bang for your buck..key phrase, bang for your buck..to have a loaded V8 with power on demand that isn’t terribly expensive is a win..so I think those folks are right..as for me, it’s too many damn Chargers and challengers on the road for me so I got the SRT Jeep..could have gotten the 5.7 Grand Cherokee but just not enough power for me, could have gotten a Hawk but too damn expensive lol..felt like I got the best bang for my buck and it works for me..I tell folk get what you want while not going broke..but I do agree, get the most for what you can afford too..them 5.7 Chargers/Challengers are not cheap by any means so might as well spen dat extra money if the 392 is what you desire..good video 💯

First I say, get what your budget can handle!! I can’t emphasize that enough because I had to learn the hard way trust me you don’t want that. Second I say take all these videos about RT’s vs scat pack’s vs Hellcats’s with a grain of salt, because your decision on which car you pick all depends on what you want out of it. I am personally not someone who would be satisfied with stock power from any of the trim levels offered. I knew going into buying my RT that I was going to modify it and eventually void my factory warranty (which if you think about it the warranty will run out on every single one of these cars at one point unless you extend it) so with that being said if your fine with stock power get what you can afford which most people are content with stock, but if you aren’t just know your going your eventually void the warranty on any of these trim levels. Going fast doesn’t come without sacrifice. If you are into RT’s or just good mopar content period checkout my channel im currently building my 5.7 on there!!

Mhmmmm I understand what he’s saying. I bought my 5.7 knowing that I didn’t want to be the fastest car on the street. I got it for the sound and looks. I plan on doing cosmetic mods but I could careless about racing. I will cut up occasionally on 85/485 though. If you’re the type to drive by a Camaro or Mustang and look in the mirror to see if they want smoke, then you should get a scat lol😂

I 100% agree. WB SPs are amazing beautiful cars but buy what you can afford.

Don’t have a mopar but it recently purchased a 2016 A3 learned this the hard way was trying to make it look more like a S3/RS3 but I’m just gonna pay it off and just buy an RS3 figured I say this because similar situation u mentioned

Bro talkin crazy but got cloth seats lmao my Daytona eats scats after just a few mods 😂

I Love my 2018 KillerBee 6.4L & my wife's 2016 R/T. 5.7L. Great video! 👍

Your info is 💯 pct on point, but your flow is crazy! Salute!

I agree knockout. Get what you could afford. I have a 2021 narrow body charger scat 6.4 and I love it. I drove a R/T 5.7 and to be real with you. I love the 6.4 better then the 5.7. But at the end of the day. Get what you could afford.

I'm a 6.4 guy...love the 5.7, 6.2 and the leaguedary 6.1....the 6.4 pistons are weak I plan on have a built 6.4 or stroker 7.0L 426..like my pops. Hemi's run through my family's blood. But his a 6.1 7.0L stroker........As a mopar gear head...some of us just truly love the 5.7 or 6.4.....and are willing to go the extra mile. To prove that these choked non S/C Hemi's...can run with the best of engine's....I for one love both 5.7(300Cammedfbo) and soon to be Built 7.0L Jeep SRT(6.4)....I tell folks do you homework and research...before you buy...know what your getting into...I can tell you every flaw about the jeep SRT from 2012-2022 from water pump issues to shifter problems 2014-15 (recall)..small upgrades and the year they happened etc......point is, do your homework, know your pockets, save for the best platform of your choice...most importantly love YOUR Mopar......It's us against the EV Idiots....if yall buy that banshee...nvm for another day

From what I was told it's cheaper and easier to mod a 5.7 and it holds boost better than the 6.4 the main reason why Dodge made the hellcat a 6.2. You can add the wide body kit yourself and you can do it for cheaper than factory. Sometimes it comes out better than the factory depending on who's doing the work. And Hellcat wide body rims or scat pack rims, come a dime a dozen in the junk yards around here 😂😂😂

Why do people hate on the 5.7 hemi so much it was the first hemi to appear in the 2003 ram 1500 when the hemi made its return. You can get a lot of power out of it with modifications but everyone cant afford a hellcat or a scat 😂

I drive my R/T like it's a Hellcat and most of the time when I'm driving it, I'm smoking everything I run against...

I got a 2022 charger rt. Enough power for me and all I’ve done to it is lowered it. Not going to mod the engine. Keeping the miles low on it, I’m at 3,500. Man whatever happened to just having a v8 under your car was enough?

I’ve been waiting to buy a wide body scatpack for the last 2 years. Finally after great consideration and watching a bunch of your videos I’ve decided against buying one. Too much heat and too much drama with them. ✌🏽

At the end of the day 5.7 or 6.4 hemi "fully forged" internals is what make a hemi engine more powerful and more durable and they last longer and a good drivetrain

With the WB kits, a lot of people fail to realize you're only getting the fender flares and not the WB side skirts, front, and rear bumper.

Well that's just like me I had a V6 before as well a charger I had a 2013 V6 that time I did not know a Scat Pack SRT wide body car was going to come out I don't think nobody knew those cars was going to exist so you can't nobody or yourself because you got a V6 at that point you did not know that kind of car was going to come out

Oh your call sign is Knock Out 360,I'm C can I remember that

Sold my 5.7 6 months after getting to get a Jeep SRT!! 392, just do not ask the question. Get the 392 period.

I'll give you 1.7 million reasons. The 5.7 will cost you $310/month less (for a narrow body). If you invest that over a 40-year career, that's the difference between being dead broke and having $1.7 million dollars in the bank. For what? The difference in real-world driving between the two is negligible.

Order the last year of Hellcats or just buy a like-new used 22’? Keep it Pushing Knockout! Love what you do bro 💯

That's why I didn't modify my 5.7. I'm good with my power. It's to expenses to replace transmissions and rear ends.

Knockout 360 is making some sense. If you're going mod your car do your homework and get right the first time (if possible). I would much prefer a car with all I want from the factory. I'm not a true car guy but I do like cars and I know what I want. The Dodge Charger RT fits the bill. And since the most powerful car I've owned to is the 210 hp 2009 Ford Mustang coup (It was fun, nonetheless.) The only V8 I've ever owned was an used up 1995 Mercury's Cougar XR7 clunker (Should've drove it straight to a mechanic or the junkyard!). And I'm currently driving a 168hp 2018 Chevrolet Malibu LT (It's kind of fun from time to time but it's nothing special.) So the Charger RT is definitely the car I want. The automotive world is changing, get em while you can.

Knockout dropping that vid with the glizzy on em.. I can't do it bro

I brought a slim body added the kit. Wish I would’ve just gotten a Widebody instead of trying to save money. Definitely over 6 grand with wheels, tires, paint, an install. Right here in Charlotte 😤

Ngl the 5.7 still be going strong even when heavily nodded, even though I’ve gapped some lmao. Their solid engines